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Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6367 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 12:56 am: |      |
Tully is a graduate student who has two friends, fellow students, that he thought were a very happy couple. He was wrong, since one day the woman (Forsythia) suddenly left the man (Roy). Roy told Tully about this in the best possible way. No, it didn't involve his declaring love for Tully: neither Roy nor Tully was romantically interested in the other. So how did he tell Tully? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11729 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 1:03 am: |      |
Just to be sure, is Tully female? Did Roy tell Tully in person? Over the phone? By any form of spoken communication? Written? Online? Via social networking? Is Forsythia involved in how Roy told Tully? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6368 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 1:13 am: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11729 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 1:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Just to be sure, is Tully female? yes but irrel Did Roy tell Tully in person? Over the phone? By any form of spoken communication? Written? Online? Via social networking? all are irrel Is Forsythia involved in how Roy told Tully? no |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 552 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 3:13 am: |      |
Is it important that they're graduate students? Is it important to find out why Forsythia left Roy? Important how long they were together? Relevant how long the three of them have known each other? |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 1486 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 5:03 am: |      |
Wait a minute, you said Tully is female? Then how are we to interpret "Tully is a graduate student who has two friends, fellow students, that he thought were a very happy couple." Is there a fourth person involved? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6370 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 7:29 pm: |      |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 552 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 3:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it important that they're graduate students? the puzzle works well for graduate students but for some other relationships as well Is it important to find out why Forsythia left Roy? yesImportant how long they were together? yesish Relevant how long the three of them have known each other? no Biograd (Biograd) New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1486 Registered: 6-2008 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 5:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Wait a minute, you said Tully is female? Then how are we to interpret "Tully is a graduate student who has two friends, fellow students, that he thought were a very happy couple." Is there a fourth person involved? No, there is a BLOOPERRRRRRR on my part involved. Tully's sex is irrel, but since I said 'he,' let's make it male. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11739 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 7:35 pm: |      |
Is a love triangle relevant? Did either F or R cheat on the other? |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 1332 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 8:11 pm: |      |
Is Roy's method the best possible way because: it spares Tully from being shocked or upset? it's dramatic? it's funny? it spares Forsythia's feelings in some way? or hurts her? it's simply original and clever? Is it relevant that Tully thought they were very happy before? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6373 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 8:35 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11739 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 7:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is a love triangle relevant? yes Did either F or R cheat on the other? yes--F cheated on R Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 1332 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 8:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Roy's method the best possible way because: it spares Tully from being shocked or upset? no it's dramatic? yes it's funny? yesit spares Forsythia's feelings in some way? no or hurts her? no it's simply original and clever? yes Is it relevant that Tully thought they were very happy before? yes |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 1337 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 9:04 pm: |      |
Does Roy answer a question Tully asks? Does he volunteer information? Is it actually words he says that make it the best possible way? Or his tone? A silence? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6375 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 1337 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 9:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Roy answer a question Tully asks?yope Does he volunteer information?yes Is it actually words he says that make it the best possible way? yesOr his tone? no A silence? no |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 557 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 9:55 pm: |      |
Does he say it with a song? poem? text? in verse? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6377 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 11:30 pm: |      |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 557 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 9:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does he say it with a song? poem? text? in verse? no to all |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11744 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 1:21 pm: |      |
Does Roy act out the story? Does he pretend to be leaving Forsythia? Does his method dull Tully's shock? Did Forsythia leave Roy for her lover? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 356 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 3:12 pm: |      |
Does Roy pretend that something else has happened? Is Roy's idea to make a dramatic context so Tully expected a "really bad" news, so that it could be then a relief that it's only a broken relationship? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 561 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 4:35 pm: |      |
Does he disguise it as a joke? Anything university-related relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6380 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 6:25 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11744 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 1:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Roy act out the story? no Does he pretend to be leaving Forsythia? no Does his method dull Tully's shock? no Did Forsythia leave Roy for her lover? yes Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 356 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 3:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Roy pretend that something else has happened? no Is Roy's idea to make a dramatic context so Tully expected a "really bad" news, so that it could be then a relief that it's only a broken relationship? noish Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 561 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 4:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does he disguise it as a joke? no Anything university-related relevant? yesish or yope |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11760 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 8:39 pm: |      |
Is it relevant when he tells Tully? Immediately after the break-up? Shortly afterwards? During a class? With others around? With Forsythia around? Does he speak in code? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6384 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 9:56 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11760 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 8:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant when he tells Tully? somewhatImmediately after the break-up?possibly Shortly afterwards? dittoDuring a class? noWith others around? possibly With Forsythia around?very unlikely Does he speak in code? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 361 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 10:12 pm: |      |
Did Roy refer to any result of breaking up, like being free for a party tonight, having no plans for weekend? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6385 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:26 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 361 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 10:12 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Roy refer to any result of breaking up, like being free for a party tonight, having no plans for weekend? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11771 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:30 pm: |      |
Is Forsythia's lover at all relevant? I doubt this, but did Forsythia cheat on Roy with Tully? |
Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami
Post Number: 1343 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:39 pm: |      |
So, does Roy take something Tully says as a sort of set-up for his news? If so, was Tully/were they talking about Forsythia? Women? Relationships? The future? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 369 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 11:27 am: |      |
Could the similar "way to tell" work if Roy and Tully were colleagues from work? teammates of a sport team? young people graduating an high school? family? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6388 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:04 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11771 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is Forsythia's lover at all relevant? yes I doubt this, but did Forsythia cheat on Roy with Tully? no Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 1343 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So, does Roy take something Tully says as a sort of set-up for his news? no If so, was Tully/were they talking about Forsythia? Women? Relationships? The future? Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 369 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 11:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Could the similar "way to tell" work if Roy and Tully were colleagues from work? yes teammates of a sport team? yesyoung people graduating an high school? yesfamily? yes |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11801 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:20 pm: |      |
The lover - H? A? M? Is the lover's name relevant? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 377 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 9:13 pm: |      |
Did Roy use a wordplay? A homonym? Other kind of expressions that may have double meaning? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6390 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 9:44 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11801 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 8:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The lover - H? yes A? yesM? yes Is the lover's name relevant? no New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 377 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 9:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Roy use a wordplay? noA homonym? no Other kind of expressions that may have double meaning? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11808 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 2:31 am: |      |
Does Roy know the lover? Does Tully? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6398 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 11:46 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11808 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 2:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does Roy know the lover? yes Does Tully? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11843 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:29 am: |      |
Is it relevant how Roy knows the lover? Are they related? Friends? Now-ex-friends? |
Larru (Larru)
New member Username: Larru
Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 4:56 am: |      |
Did R tell T at the university? If not, is location relevant? Did T ask R about F? Just generally, or a specific question? Did R say something about F? Regarding her well-being (such as saying "she couldn't be happier")? And was that was softened the blow? Did R use an idiomatic expression of some sort? One that relates to teams or groups or communities? Should we be trying to discover what words R used? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 420 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 8:58 am: |      |
Did Roy tell Tully the news in public? Relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6400 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 11, 2011 - 9:41 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11843 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant how Roy knows the lover? no Are they related? irrelFriends? irrelNow-ex-friends? irrel Larru (Larru) New member Username: Larru Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 4:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did R tell T at the university? possiblyIf not, is location relevant? no Did T ask R about F? noJust generally, or a specific question? no Did R say something about F? Regarding her well-being (such as saying "she couldn't be happier")? no And was that was softened the blow? no Did R use an idiomatic expression of some sort? irrel One that relates to teams or groups or communities? irrel Should we be trying to discover what words R used? no--just the gist of what he said Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 420 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 8:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Roy tell Tully the news in public?irrel Relevant? no |
Larru (Larru)
New member Username: Larru
Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 11:03 pm: |      |
Should we be trying to discover more about F's lover? Were F and R together for a few weeks? Months? Years? 1? 5? 10? Has T been involved with either F or R in the past? Has there been an attraction of any sort? Would it help to find out T's reaction? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6405 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 12:02 am: |      |
Larru (Larru) New member Username: Larru Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2011 - 11:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Should we be trying to discover more about F's lover? yes Were F and R together for a few weeks? no Months? no Years? 1? unlikely 5? possibly 10? the longer they were together, the better it works. In the real case, they were together about 3 years Has T been involved with either F or R in the past? noHas there been an attraction of any sort? no Would it help to find out T's reaction? yes |
Larru (Larru)
New member Username: Larru
Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 12:40 am: |      |
F's lover: grad student? friend of F's? R's? profession relevant? location? age? F cheated on R with the lover, right? Is it relevant when? Was T amused by R's way to tell? Supportive of R? Angry at F? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6407 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 8:00 pm: |      |
Larru (Larru) New member Username: Larru Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 12:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) F's lover: grad student? no friend of F's? well, yes R's? noprofession relevant? no location? noage? yes F cheated on R with the lover, right? yes Is it relevant when? yes Was T amused by R's way to tell? yes Supportive of R? irrel Angry at F? irrel |
Larru (Larru)
New member Username: Larru
Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 8:13 pm: |      |
F's lover: in his teens? 20s? 30s? 40s? etc. Did F did on R very recently? long ago? early on in F and R's relationship? before or after F and/or R became friends with T? before or after F and/or R and/or T entered the university? Is there any more we need to know about T's reaction other than amused? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6409 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 8:51 pm: |      |
Larru (Larru) New member Username: Larru Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 8:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) F's lover: in his teens? 20s? 30s? 40s? etc. 60's or more Did F did on R very recently? yes. (I assume yoiu mean 'cheat on.') long ago? no early on in F and R's relationship? no before or after F and/or R became friends with T? after before or after F and/or R and/or T entered the university? after Is there any more we need to know about T's reaction other than amused? yes |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11973 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 10:30 pm: |      |
Is the lover a professor? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6410 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 10:49 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11973 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, February 13, 2011 - 10:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the lover a professor? irrel, although the real one was |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 11978 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 12:26 am: |      |
Did R tell T in a class? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6412 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 12:46 am: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11978 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 12:26 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did R tell T in a class?no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 468 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 3:42 pm: |      |
Did R refer to the age of the lover? To his profession? Social status? Did R refer to possible motives for F leaving her (for example money)? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6414 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 8:42 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 468 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Monday, February 14, 2011 - 3:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did R refer to the age of the lover? yesTo his profession? no Social status? no Did R refer to possible motives for F leaving her (for example money)? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 493 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 2:37 pm: |      |
Did R compare the age of the lover with his own age? Did R refer to anything connected with being old? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6418 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 11:50 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 493 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 2:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did R compare the age of the lover with his own age? noDid R refer to anything connected with being old? yesish--but you're OWT (on the wrong track) |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12053 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 3:39 am: |      |
Did R know that F was no longer seeing him? Or did he think they were still a couple at the time T told him? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6422 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 2:09 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12053 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 3:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did R know that F was no longer seeing him? Or did he think they were still a couple at the time T told him?Please clarify what you mean here (R told T; T didn't tell R. See puzzle statement.) |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12065 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 2:25 pm: |      |
Ignore that entire question then - I flopped information in my mind. Relevant how R found out about the affair? Did he know about it at all? Or just that F was no longer seeing him? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6423 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 7:43 pm: |      |
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 2:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12053 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 3:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did R know that F was no longer seeing him? Or did he think they were still a couple at the time T told him?Please clarify what you mean here (R told T; T didn't tell R. See puzzle statement.) Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12065 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 2:25 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ignore that entire question then - I flopped information in my mind. Relevant how R found out about the affair?noDid he know about it at all? yes Or just that F was no longer seeing him? no |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 6:56 pm: |      |
was it a play on words? a play on his name? Forsythia's? her new lover's? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6425 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 8:33 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 6:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) was it a play on words? a play on his name? Forsythia's? her new lover's? no to all |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 53 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 3:32 pm: |      |
have we discovered the reason F left R (ie she was having an affair) or is there more to discover? did R refer to himself as "old", ie the old lover? was R glad the relationship was over? sad? angry? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 6427 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 5:13 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 53 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2011 - 3:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) have we discovered the reason F left R (ie she was having an affair) yes or is there more to discover? no did R refer to himself as "old", ie the old lover? no was R glad the relationship was over? sad? angry?irrel |
Kdoc (Kdoc)
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Post Number: 1172 Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2011 - 9:24 pm: |      |
so Roy found a funny way to tell Tully that his old girlfriend is now together with an older man? did R refer to himself? to Forsythia? to the older man? did he refer to what the new couple would be doing now? what the future held for them? did he make any sort of comparison? some sort of prediction? did he make a derogatory comment about the new boyfriend? about F? about her choice in men? did he make some comment about his own single status? his availability? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6432 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2011 - 11:10 pm: |      |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1172 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2011 - 9:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) so Roy found a funny way to tell Tully that his old girlfriend is now together with an older man? yes, but being funny was not its only virtue did R refer to himself? no to Forsythia?yes to the older man? yes did he refer to what the new couple would be doing now? no what the future held for them? no did he make any sort of comparison? yope some sort of prediction? no did he make a derogatory comment about the new boyfriend? noabout F? no about her choice in men? no did he make some comment about his own single status? no his availability? no |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Post Number: 658 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2011 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Was it ironic? sarcastic? mean? Does it shock Tully? Surprise him? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6435 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 658 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2011 - 11:18 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it ironic? yopesarcastic? no mean? no Does it shock Tully?yope Surprise him? yes |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 97 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 9:11 pm: |      |
does it surprise Tully just because he/she thought the relationship was OK? or did it surprise Tully in the way it was told? the words that were used? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6437 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 9:46 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 97 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 9:11 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) does it surprise Tully just because he/she thought the relationship was OK? not just that or did it surprise Tully in the way it was told? yesthe words that were used? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 562 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 10:00 pm: |      |
Did Roy express his feelings towards ex-girlfriend? Towards the relationship? Was Tully surprised because he thought Roy's feelings were different? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6440 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 10:46 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 562 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 10:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did Roy express his feelings towards ex-girlfriend? Towards the relationship? Was Tully surprised because he thought Roy's feelings were different? no to all |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 105 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 11:40 am: |      |
so the way he told it was funny, clever, witty and surprising? but not in his choice of words? did he sing it? act it out? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6444 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 10:25 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 105 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 11:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) so the way he told it was funny, clever, witty and surprising? yes--& it had another virtue, too!! but not in his choice of words? no did he sing it? no act it out? no |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6445 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 10:28 pm: |      |
CLARIFICATION!!!! Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 11:40 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) so the way he told it was funny, clever, witty and surprising? yes--& it had another virtue, too!!but not in his choice of words? no My 'no' here means, 'Yes, what was funny, clever, witty & surprising was NOT in his choice of words'!! |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 124 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 10:48 pm: |      |
oh thanks - that makes it a lot clearer! |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6446 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 11:28 pm: |      |
We aim to please (and to get our puzzles solved!!) |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 575 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 12:08 am: |      |
Is it relevant when R told T? Or where? |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Post Number: 693 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 1:24 pm: |      |
Did he dress up or disguise himself? |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 128 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 2:22 pm: |      |
through the medium of dance? mime? did he act it out and play the characters? would another person watching/listening have found it funny, clever, etc..? did he tell it live? recorded? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6448 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 10:50 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 575 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 12:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant when R told T? Or where? Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 693 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 1:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did he dress up or disguise himself? no Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 128 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 2:22 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) through the medium of dance? no mime? no did he act it out and play the characters? no would another person watching/listening have found it funny, clever, etc..? yes did he tell it live? yesrecorded? no |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 12324 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 11:14 pm: |      |
You didn't answer Redwine's questions... |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 590 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:44 am: |      |
Did R told T as if it was an imaginary, hypothaetical situation? Did R told T as if he was asking for advice (like: what would you do if....)? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6450 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 3:33 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 575 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2011 - 12:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant when R told T? no Or where? no |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 154 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 7:49 pm: |      |
did he turn it into a quiz or game? like making her guess? a lateral thinking puzzle? or did he make a single statement which described what had happened? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6453 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 7:00 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 154 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 7:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) did he turn it into a quiz or game? yeslike making her guess? yes a lateral thinking puzzle? not quite--see below or did he make a single statement which described what had happened? no ********* SPOILER ************** One day, Roy said to Tully, "Guess what happened: 1. Smythe's getting married. [Smythe was a divorced faculty member who--ludicrously--tried to pass himself off as a playboy.] 2. There was a murder in the department. 3. Forsythia ran off with a 64-year-old man." Tully guessed first 1, then 2! This is a true story!! (Forsythia later married the 64-year-old man.) Please see my new puzzle you-know-where. |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 162 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 7:04 pm: |      |
Thanks Nimue, I really enjoyed this one |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6457 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 8:54 pm: |      |
We aim to please--I'm Tully & I really enjoyed it when Roy told me this way!! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 12357 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 9:44 pm: |      |
I wonder if Roy knew about this site - I'm sure it was the best possible way! |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 6460 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 9:57 pm: |      |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12357 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 9:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I wonder if Roy knew about this site - I'm sure it was the best possible way!I think Roy was unaware of lateral puzzles--which of course was severe cultural deprivation. |