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Tully is a graduate student who has two friends, fellow students, that he thought were a very happy couple. He was wrong, since one day the woman (Forsythia) suddenly left the man (Roy). Roy told Tully about this in the best possible way. No, it didn't involve his declaring love for Tully: neither Roy nor Tully was romantically interested in the other. So how did he tell Tully?
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Just to be sure, is Tully female?

Did Roy tell Tully in person? Over the phone? By any form of spoken communication? Written? Online? Via social networking?

Is Forsythia involved in how Roy told Tully?
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Just to be sure, is Tully female? yes but irrel

Did Roy tell Tully in person? Over the phone? By any form of spoken communication? Written? Online? Via social networking? all are irrel

Is Forsythia involved in how Roy told Tully? no
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Is it important that they're graduate students?
Is it important to find out why Forsythia left Roy? Important how long they were together? Relevant how long the three of them have known each other?
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Wait a minute, you said Tully is female? Then how are we to interpret "Tully is a graduate student who has two friends, fellow students, that he thought were a very happy couple." Is there a fourth person involved?
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Is it important that they're graduate students? the puzzle works well for graduate students but for some other relationships as well
Is it important to find out why Forsythia left Roy? yesImportant how long they were together? yesish Relevant how long the three of them have known each other? no
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Wait a minute, you said Tully is female? Then how are we to interpret "Tully is a graduate student who has two friends, fellow students, that he thought were a very happy couple." Is there a fourth person involved? No, there is a BLOOPERRRRRRR on my part involved. Tully's sex is irrel, but since I said 'he,' let's make it male.
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Is a love triangle relevant? Did either F or R cheat on the other?
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Is Roy's method the best possible way because: it spares Tully from being shocked or upset? it's dramatic? it's funny? it spares Forsythia's feelings in some way? or hurts her? it's simply original and clever?

Is it relevant that Tully thought they were very happy before?
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Is a love triangle relevant? yes Did either F or R cheat on the other? yes--F cheated on R
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Is Roy's method the best possible way because: it spares Tully from being shocked or upset? no it's dramatic? yes it's funny? yesit spares Forsythia's feelings in some way? no or hurts her? no it's simply original and clever? yes

Is it relevant that Tully thought they were very happy before? yes
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Does Roy answer a question Tully asks? Does he volunteer information? Is it actually words he says that make it the best possible way? Or his tone? A silence?
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Does Roy answer a question Tully asks?yope Does he volunteer information?yes Is it actually words he says that make it the best possible way? yesOr his tone? no A silence? no
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Does he say it with a song? poem? text? in verse?
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Does he say it with a song? poem? text? in verse? no to all
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Does Roy act out the story? Does he pretend to be leaving Forsythia?

Does his method dull Tully's shock?

Did Forsythia leave Roy for her lover?
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Does Roy pretend that something else has happened?
Is Roy's idea to make a dramatic context so Tully expected a "really bad" news, so that it could be then a relief that it's only a broken relationship?
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Does he disguise it as a joke?

Anything university-related relevant?
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Does Roy act out the story? no Does he pretend to be leaving Forsythia? no

Does his method dull Tully's shock? no

Did Forsythia leave Roy for her lover? yes
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Does Roy pretend that something else has happened? no
Is Roy's idea to make a dramatic context so Tully expected a "really bad" news, so that it could be then a relief that it's only a broken relationship? noish
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Does he disguise it as a joke? no

Anything university-related relevant? yesish or yope
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Is it relevant when he tells Tully? Immediately after the break-up? Shortly afterwards? During a class? With others around? With Forsythia around? Does he speak in code?
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Is it relevant when he tells Tully? somewhatImmediately after the break-up?possibly Shortly afterwards? dittoDuring a class? noWith others around? possibly With Forsythia around?very unlikely Does he speak in code? no
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Did Roy refer to any result of breaking up, like being free for a party tonight, having no plans for weekend?
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Did Roy refer to any result of breaking up, like being free for a party tonight, having no plans for weekend? no
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Is Forsythia's lover at all relevant?

I doubt this, but did Forsythia cheat on Roy with Tully?
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So, does Roy take something Tully says as a sort of set-up for his news? If so, was Tully/were they talking about Forsythia? Women? Relationships? The future?
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Could the similar "way to tell" work if Roy and Tully were colleagues from work? teammates of a sport team? young people graduating an high school? family?
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Is Forsythia's lover at all relevant? yes

I doubt this, but did Forsythia cheat on Roy with Tully? no
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So, does Roy take something Tully says as a sort of set-up for his news? no If so, was Tully/were they talking about Forsythia? Women? Relationships? The future?
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Could the similar "way to tell" work if Roy and Tully were colleagues from work? yes teammates of a sport team? yesyoung people graduating an high school? yesfamily? yes
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The lover - H? A? M? Is the lover's name relevant?
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Did Roy use a wordplay? A homonym? Other kind of expressions that may have double meaning?
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The lover - H? yes A? yesM? yes Is the lover's name relevant? no
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Did Roy use a wordplay? noA homonym? no Other kind of expressions that may have double meaning? no
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Does Roy know the lover? Does Tully?
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Does Roy know the lover? yes Does Tully? no
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Is it relevant how Roy knows the lover? Are they related? Friends? Now-ex-friends?
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Did R tell T at the university? If not, is location relevant?

Did T ask R about F? Just generally, or a specific question?

Did R say something about F? Regarding her well-being (such as saying "she couldn't be happier")? And was that was softened the blow?

Did R use an idiomatic expression of some sort? One that relates to teams or groups or communities? Should we be trying to discover what words R used?
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Did Roy tell Tully the news in public? Relevant?
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Is it relevant how Roy knows the lover? no Are they related? irrelFriends? irrelNow-ex-friends? irrel
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Did R tell T at the university? possiblyIf not, is location relevant? no

Did T ask R about F? noJust generally, or a specific question? no

Did R say something about F? Regarding her well-being (such as saying "she couldn't be happier")? no And was that was softened the blow? no

Did R use an idiomatic expression of some sort? irrel One that relates to teams or groups or communities? irrel Should we be trying to discover what words R used? no--just the gist of what he said
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Did Roy tell Tully the news in public?irrel Relevant? no
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Should we be trying to discover more about F's lover?

Were F and R together for a few weeks? Months? Years? 1? 5? 10?

Has T been involved with either F or R in the past? Has there been an attraction of any sort?

Would it help to find out T's reaction?
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Should we be trying to discover more about F's lover? yes

Were F and R together for a few weeks? no Months? no Years? 1? unlikely 5? possibly 10? the longer they were together, the better it works. In the real case, they were together about 3 years

Has T been involved with either F or R in the past? noHas there been an attraction of any sort? no

Would it help to find out T's reaction? yes
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F's lover: grad student? friend of F's? R's? profession relevant? location? age?

F cheated on R with the lover, right? Is it relevant when?

Was T amused by R's way to tell? Supportive of R? Angry at F?
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F's lover: grad student? no friend of F's? well, yes R's? noprofession relevant? no location? noage? yes

F cheated on R with the lover, right? yes Is it relevant when? yes

Was T amused by R's way to tell? yes Supportive of R? irrel Angry at F? irrel
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F's lover: in his teens? 20s? 30s? 40s? etc.

Did F did on R very recently? long ago? early on in F and R's relationship? before or after F and/or R became friends with T? before or after F and/or R and/or T entered the university?

Is there any more we need to know about T's reaction other than amused?
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F's lover: in his teens? 20s? 30s? 40s? etc. 60's or more

Did F did on R very recently? yes. (I assume yoiu mean 'cheat on.') long ago? no early on in F and R's relationship? no before or after F and/or R became friends with T? after before or after F and/or R and/or T entered the university? after

Is there any more we need to know about T's reaction other than amused? yes
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Is the lover a professor?
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Is the lover a professor? irrel, although the real one was
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Did R tell T in a class?
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Did R tell T in a class?no
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Did R refer to the age of the lover? To his profession? Social status? Did R refer to possible motives for F leaving her (for example money)?
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Did R refer to the age of the lover? yesTo his profession? no Social status? no Did R refer to possible motives for F leaving her (for example money)? no
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Did R compare the age of the lover with his own age? Did R refer to anything connected with being old?
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Did R compare the age of the lover with his own age? noDid R refer to anything connected with being old? yesish--but you're OWT (on the wrong track)
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Did R know that F was no longer seeing him? Or did he think they were still a couple at the time T told him?
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Did R know that F was no longer seeing him? Or did he think they were still a couple at the time T told him?Please clarify what you mean here (R told T; T didn't tell R. See puzzle statement.)
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Ignore that entire question then - I flopped information in my mind.

Relevant how R found out about the affair? Did he know about it at all? Or just that F was no longer seeing him?
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Did R know that F was no longer seeing him? Or did he think they were still a couple at the time T told him?Please clarify what you mean here (R told T; T didn't tell R. See puzzle statement.)
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Ignore that entire question then - I flopped information in my mind.

Relevant how R found out about the affair?noDid he know about it at all? yes Or just that F was no longer seeing him? no
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was it a play on words? a play on his name? Forsythia's? her new lover's?
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was it a play on words? a play on his name? Forsythia's? her new lover's? no to all
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have we discovered the reason F left R (ie she was having an affair) or is there more to discover?

did R refer to himself as "old", ie the old lover?

was R glad the relationship was over? sad? angry?
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have we discovered the reason F left R (ie she was having an affair) yes or is there more to discover? no

did R refer to himself as "old", ie the old lover? no

was R glad the relationship was over? sad? angry?irrel
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so Roy found a funny way to tell Tully that his old girlfriend is now together with an older man?

did R refer to himself? to Forsythia? to the older man?
did he refer to what the new couple would be doing now? what the future held for them?

did he make any sort of comparison? some sort of prediction?
did he make a derogatory comment about the new boyfriend? about F? about her choice in men?

did he make some comment about his own single status? his availability?
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so Roy found a funny way to tell Tully that his old girlfriend is now together with an older man? yes, but being funny was not its only virtue

did R refer to himself? no to Forsythia?yes to the older man? yes
did he refer to what the new couple would be doing now? no what the future held for them? no

did he make any sort of comparison? yope some sort of prediction? no
did he make a derogatory comment about the new boyfriend? noabout F? no about her choice in men? no

did he make some comment about his own single status? no his availability? no
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Was it ironic? sarcastic? mean?
Does it shock Tully? Surprise him?
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Was it ironic? yopesarcastic? no mean? no
Does it shock Tully?yope Surprise him? yes
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does it surprise Tully just because he/she thought the relationship was OK?

or did it surprise Tully in the way it was told? the words that were used?
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does it surprise Tully just because he/she thought the relationship was OK? not just that

or did it surprise Tully in the way it was told? yesthe words that were used? no
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Did Roy express his feelings towards ex-girlfriend? Towards the relationship?
Was Tully surprised because he thought Roy's feelings were different?
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Did Roy express his feelings towards ex-girlfriend? Towards the relationship?
Was Tully surprised because he thought Roy's feelings were different? no to all
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so the way he told it was funny, clever, witty and surprising?

but not in his choice of words?

did he sing it? act it out?
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so the way he told it was funny, clever, witty and surprising? yes--& it had another virtue, too!!

but not in his choice of words? no

did he sing it? no act it out? no
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CLARIFICATION!!!!
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so the way he told it was funny, clever, witty and surprising? yes--& it had another virtue, too!!but not in his choice of words? no My 'no' here means, 'Yes, what was funny, clever, witty & surprising was NOT in his choice of words'!!
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oh thanks - that makes it a lot clearer!
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We aim to please (and to get our puzzles solved!!)
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Is it relevant when R told T? Or where?
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Did he dress up or disguise himself?
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through the medium of dance? mime?

did he act it out and play the characters?

would another person watching/listening have found it funny, clever, etc..?

did he tell it live? recorded?
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Is it relevant when R told T? Or where?
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Did he dress up or disguise himself? no
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through the medium of dance? no mime? no

did he act it out and play the characters? no

would another person watching/listening have found it funny, clever, etc..? yes

did he tell it live? yesrecorded? no
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You didn't answer Redwine's questions...
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Did R told T as if it was an imaginary, hypothaetical situation? Did R told T as if he was asking for advice (like: what would you do if....)?
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Is it relevant when R told T? no Or where? no
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did he turn it into a quiz or game? like making her guess? a lateral thinking puzzle?

or did he make a single statement which described what had happened?
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did he turn it into a quiz or game? yeslike making her guess? yes a lateral thinking puzzle? not quite--see below

or did he make a single statement which described what had happened? no

********* SPOILER **************

One day, Roy said to Tully, "Guess what happened: 1. Smythe's getting married. [Smythe was a divorced faculty member who--ludicrously--tried to pass himself off as a playboy.] 2. There was a murder in the department. 3. Forsythia ran off with a 64-year-old man." Tully guessed first 1, then 2! This is a true story!! (Forsythia later married the 64-year-old man.) Please see my new puzzle you-know-where.
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Thanks Nimue, I really enjoyed this one
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We aim to please--I'm Tully & I really enjoyed it when Roy told me this way!!
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I wonder if Roy knew about this site - I'm sure it was the best possible way!
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I wonder if Roy knew about this site - I'm sure it was the best possible way!I think Roy was unaware of lateral puzzles--which of course was severe cultural deprivation.

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