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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 12:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

But did he stay for the triumphant sequel?
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He = H/A/M? = Balin?

True story? FYOI? FSEI?

LTPF list of centuries/decades?
LTPF list of continents/countries?
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He = H/A/M? Yes = Balin? No

True story? No FYOI? Only the musing that is the puzzle statement FSEI? But most of the story is this

LTPF list of centuries/decades? Two decades are relevant - 1880s and 1980s.
LTPF list of continents/countries? An unknown fictional place on Earth, probably in the US
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Is the relevant medium the fictional place appears in:
book/magazine/comics?
movie/tv show?

is it relevant in what way the "sequel" is "triumphant"?
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Is the relevant medium the fictional place appears in:
book/magazine/comics?
movie/tv show? None of these

is it relevant in what way the "sequel" is "triumphant"? Yes
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is the medium a computer game? a play? a poem? a radio play? or a story told on the radio?
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Did he (fictionally?) live in the 1880s? The 1980s? Did the triumphant sequel (fictionally?) take place in the 1880s? The 1980s?
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is the medium a computer game? a play? a poem? The 1880s bit - the place - is this a radio play? or a story told on the radio? ...but the 1980s bit is nowhere to be seen.

Did he (fictionally?) live in the 1880s? Here The 1980s? Did the triumphant sequel (fictionally?) take place in the 1880s? The 1980s? 1900s
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Is the 1980's thing a song?
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Is the 1980's thing a song? Yes
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So there is a relevant poem written in the 1880s? Published in the 1880s? Written in English? Set in the 1880s but written later?

And there is a relevant song written in the 1980s? Published in the 1980s? Set in the 1980s? The language of the song is English?

Was there a triumphant sequel in the real world? Is it mentioned in the poem? Another poem? The song? Another song? Some other work of fiction?
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So there is a relevant poem written in the 1880s? Published in the 1880s? Written in English? Yes to these three Set in the 1880s but written later? No to this

And there is a relevant song written in the 1980s? Yes Published in the 1980s? Yes Set in the 1980s? Noish/Yope The language of the song is English? Yes

Was there a triumphant sequel in the real world? Is it mentioned in the poem? Another poem? This The song? Another song? Some other work of fiction?
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was "he" a fictional character? who first appeared in the 1st poem?

was he a soldier? a pirate? a highwayman?
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was "he" a fictional character? who first appeared in the 1st poem? Yes to both

was he a soldier? a pirate? a highwayman? But none of these
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Does the fictional character from the 1st poem appear in the 2nd poem, too? In the song? Is he triumphant in the 2nd poem? The song?

Is the fictional character H? A? M?
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Does the fictional character from the 1st poem appear in the 2nd poem, too? Yes In the song? Yes Is he triumphant in the 2nd poem? Yes The song? No

Is the fictional character H? A? M? Yes to all
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I have a theory so i'll ask is the song by a heavy metal band?
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I have a theory so i'll ask is the song by a heavy metal band? No, but I'm curious as to what you were thinking.
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did he stay - in a particular place? or time?

or stay in the sense of remain belonging to a group?
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did he stay - in a particular place? This (tiny -ish) or time? And this (tiny -ish)

or stay in the sense of remain belonging to a group? No
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was the poem about leaving somewhere? the song? the leaving of Liverpool?

is the place relevant?
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was the poem about leaving somewhere? the song? the leaving of Liverpool? No to all

is the place relevant? Yopish/Noish
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Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was miles off. I misread the date of the original poem and thought it might be the Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Iron Maiden had a song on their Powerslave album based on the poem. 14 minutes long it was.

Is this a well known 80's pop hit?

By a british band? US Band? other? british singer? US singer? other?

I suppose I better eliminate something obvious ...

Are REM relevant? (of course they ARE relevant but I mean in the context of this puzzle ;)
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in the 2nd poem did he triumph over death? nature? an army? another person? a group of people? disability?

was he a king? a leader of men? a military leader?
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I was miles off. I misread the date of the original poem and thought it might be the Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Iron Maiden had a song on their Powerslave album based on the poem. 14 minutes long it was.

Is this a well known 80's pop hit? Rock, but Yes

By a british band? US Band? other? british singer? US singer? This other?

I suppose I better eliminate something obvious ...

Are REM relevant? No - I was wondering when that question was going to pop up =) (of course they ARE relevant but I mean in the context of this puzzle ;)

in the 2nd poem did he triumph over death? nature? an army? another person? This-ish a group of people? And this-ish, but less so disability?

was he a king? a leader of men? a military leader? No to all, with perhaps a slight -ish to the middle one
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a religious leader? a teacher? a sportsman? a wizard?
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a religious leader? a teacher? a sportsman? This 'un a wizard?
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it wouldn't be baseball by any chance?
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it wouldn't be baseball by any chance? It would be baseball. And don't worry - no knowledge (or very little) knowledge of the rules is needed.
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the only baseball poem I know would be Casey at the bat??
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Is the song "We didn't start the fire"?

Is the baseball player Roy Campanella?
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Or Joe DiMaggio or even Mickey Mantle?
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Oh just realised the "he" is fictional

So maybe you can strike (pun intended) my previous questions apart from the Billy Joel bit of course.
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the only baseball poem I know would be Casey at the bat?? And that's the right poem!

Is the song "We didn't start the fire"? No

Is the baseball player Roy Campanella?

Or Joe DiMaggio or even Mickey Mantle?

Oh just realised the "he" is fictional Right, see above

So maybe you can strike (pun intended) my previous questions apart from the Billy Joel bit of course. Question struck. And from the looks of it, your count is 0 and 2.
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so in the original poem Casey struck out and presumably his team didn't win?

was the second poem written about the same era? by the same poet? did Casey's team win?
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ps not an expert in Americana, but there was a fabulous treatment of the poem in MAD magazine in the 50s or 60s
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so in the original poem Casey struck out and presumably his team didn't win? Right.

was the second poem written about the same era? About 15-20 years later, if I can remember by the same poet? No did Casey's team win? Yes!

That's all you need to know for the poem. Now, the song. (Googlepedia is legal.)


ps not an expert in Americana, but there was a fabulous treatment of the poem in MAD magazine in the 50s or 60s I've seen a few good parodies - don't think I've seen that one though. I'll have to check it out.
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Take Me Out to the Ball Game relevant? Wikipedia says the Katie Casey in the original version was Casey at the Bat's daughter?
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john cale?
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Take Me Out to the Ball Game relevant? No - remember, we're looking for a baseball song from the 1980s. Wikipedia says the Katie Casey in the original version was Casey at the Bat's daughter? I did not know that - cool!

john cale? No
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Since we're almost there I will

RECAP:

The "he" is from a baseball song from the 1980s. The song mentions him being around during the events of the poem "Casey at the Bat," but I wonder if "he" stayed for the sequel in which Casey hits a home run.

All that's left is the song.
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The only song that is coming to mind is "Centerfield"...?
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The only song that is coming to mind is "Centerfield"...? ...and that's the right one.

**********SPOILER**********

John Fogerty's song "Centerfield" contains the lyrics:

Well I spent some time in the Mudville nine
Watching it from the bench
You know I took some lumps
When the Mighty Casey struck out

Naturally, I am wondering whether the song's narrator stuck around for the sequel ("Casey's Revenge," by either James Wilson or Grantland Rice), in which Casey hits a game-winning home run.

Nice work everyone (Shez, Peter, Kaygee, et cetera).
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thanks Balin. good puzzle

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