| Author | Message | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3225 Registered: 9-2010 |
It was inconvenient to say the least. However, they found an ingenious way to overcome it...and in the end, they were quite right. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 726 Registered: 12-2010 |
it = an event? something that happened once? they = 2 people? 3-10? 10-100? more than 100? H/A/M? they 1 = they 2? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3226 Registered: 9-2010 |
it = an event? something that happened once? yope to both...svv of 'event', DOYD they = 2 people? Yes 3-10? 10-100? more than 100? H/A/M? 1 HAM, 1 HAF, one HCF involved (the one "it" happened to) they 1 = they 2? Yes | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 276 Registered: 11-2010 |
I hate to ask this, but does this have to do with our family, as so many of you puzzles do? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3227 Registered: 9-2010 |
I hate to ask this, but does this have to do with our family, as so many of you puzzles do? No, neither of the adults or the child (who's now an adult) are relations of ours or personal friends. OTWT, Tortiesibling. Of course, it depends on your definition of "have to do with our family". =P | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 277 Registered: 11-2010 |
hmmmm...does it have to do with ancestors of ours? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3228 Registered: 9-2010 |
hmmmm...does it have to do with ancestors of ours? No, lol. Clarification: The H/C/F (now H/A/F) affected by the statement is a world-famous (and rightfully so) person who we both (and, I wager, many others on this forum) know of. | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 278 Registered: 11-2010 |
Was the inconvienience some form of disability? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3229 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was the inconvienience some form of disability? LOL...not in the conventional sense of 'disability'. It was a natural consequence of getting older =P But it certainly did prove to be an obstacle... | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 279 Registered: 11-2010 |
hmmm...consequences of getting older for females... Would it be a 'consequence' that would occur around <5 years old? <10? <15? <20? <30? specifically puberty? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3230 Registered: 9-2010 |
hmmm...consequences of getting older for females... Would it be a 'consequence' that would occur around <5 years old? <10? hereish, she was 12 to be specific. <15? <20? <30? specifically puberty? just so, yes...slightly more specifically, however? | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 280 Registered: 11-2010 |
Anything to do with the child developing a bosom? If so, did they solve the problem by bandaging it up to make it flat? or getting a mastectomy? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3231 Registered: 9-2010 |
Anything to do with the child developing a bosom? well, you already asked this, slightly more indelicately, on FB and I said yes, so you know it is =P...in fact, "developing a bosom" was her wording. If so, did they solve the problem by bandaging it up to make it flat? This, but there's more to it. or getting a mastectomy? No. | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 281 Registered: 11-2010 |
Were they trying to make her look like a boy? Or does this have to do with something like archery, where a woman's chest could get in the way of a good draw of the bow? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3232 Registered: 9-2010 |
Were they trying to make her look like a boy? No, they just wanted her to look younger. Why, though? Or does this have to do with something like archery, where a woman's chest could get in the way of a good draw of the bow? Very good thought, but entirely on the wrong track, lol. Remember, this child grew up to be a world-famous person we both know about...do you know any world-famous archers? =P | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 282 Registered: 11-2010 |
someone who was famous for being a little girl? for example Shirley Temple? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3233 Registered: 9-2010 |
someone who was famous for being a little girl? not exactly...she became considerably more famous for performances as an adult, although at that point, her 'act' was being a little girl, yes, which is why she had to bind her bosom. Unfortunately, having "grown up", she didn't want to hide it...so... Who are "they"? How did "they" get her to agree to hide her flourishing figure? Who is she and what is she famous for? for example Shirley Temple? Not Shirley Temple, although now you've got into the right forest... | ||
| Tortiekitten (Tortiekitten)
New member Username: Tortiekitten Post Number: 283 Registered: 11-2010 |
going to guess actresses now... Judy Garland? Drew Barrymore? I'm guessing that "they" are her parents? and maybe bribed her with something? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3234 Registered: 9-2010 |
going to guess actresses now... good plan Judy Garland? Drew Barrymore? too early and too late, respectively, though Judy's closer I'm guessing that "they" are her parents? and maybe bribed her with something? Yes, and DOYD of "bribe"... RECAP with HINTS: In a country as yet to be determined, in a year as yet to be determined, a twelve year old child who would grow up to become a world-famous actress caused her parents distress by entering puberty and being proud of her new "bosom", antithesis to the little-girl image they had so carefully cultivated for their act. They told her if she bound up her bosom, it would help something happen. To find out: Who is she? When was this? Where was this? What did her parents tell her would happen? (hint: time period is VERY relevant) And what is she most famous for? (Since no one seems to be exploring the relevance of the title: it's the beginning of a song: "Don't Put Your Daughter On The Stage". This is relevant, but not hugely relevant. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 727 Registered: 12-2010 |
[LTPF list of centuries & decades] and [LTPF list of continents], please. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 206 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the parents and child all in the act? or just the child? was it acting? singing? dancing? comedy? film? television? stage? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3236 Registered: 9-2010 |
[LTPF list of centuries & decades] 1950's, she became especially famous in the 60's though and [LTPF list of continents], please. Europe...UK specifically. However she didn't really explode to stardom until she came to the US. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3237 Registered: 9-2010 |
were the parents and child all in the act? or just the child? It was the parents' act, they sometimes brought her in. was it acting? singing? this; Her father was a tenor, her mum a pianist. dancing? comedy? film? her fame later came from this television? stage? she was in vaudeville, and theatre, too, but became arguably most famous for her film career later | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 207 Registered: 2-2011 |
in musicals? on Broadway? I think I may know who it is.. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3239 Registered: 9-2010 |
in musicals? on Broadway? yes and yes, she was in both... I think I may know who it is..do you want to guess by email first or just put it out here? either is fine :-D | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 212 Registered: 2-2011 |
thanks. please see email | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3241 Registered: 9-2010 |
well done Shez, quite right =D anyone else want to try, though? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3242 Registered: 9-2010 |
and guessing who it is isn't enough for a $poyler, anyway...:-D still left a couple of questions unanswered! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 214 Registered: 2-2011 |
was her appeal that she seemed so accomplished for one so young? and if the public realised she had breasts they would realise she was much older? or was she playing a boy? was she famous for playing a particular role? did her parents tell her that her career would be over? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3243 Registered: 9-2010 |
was her appeal that she seemed so accomplished for one so young? and if the public realised she had breasts they would realise she was much older? her "gimmick" in those days was to be the little girl, so her developing a bosom (as she put it) was a problem. or was she playing a boy? no, see above was she famous for playing a particular role? in the 60's, she had two film roles that she's been especially famous for, and she's still a popular actress. She's had several roles in the theatre, as well. did her parents tell her that her career would be over? no, they told her that "if she strapped down her bust" it would help something. What? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3244 Registered: 9-2010 |
Blooper: (well, it may or may not be, but...) change "several roles in the theatre" to "at least one extremely famous role on Broadway and a few television musicals". | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 216 Registered: 2-2011 |
did they tell her it would make them grow? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3245 Registered: 9-2010 |
did they tell her it would make them grow? no, lol. What they told her was nothing about her bosom. Think about the relevant time period... | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 737 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did they tell her it would help her acting career? her voice? find a husband? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3248 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did they tell her it would help her acting career? her voice? find a husband? Lol, no to all. HINT: The events of the puzzle occurred in the 1940's. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 739 Registered: 12-2010 |
WW2 relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3250 Registered: 9-2010 |
WW2 relevant? very relevant to what they told her, yes! "If you strap down your bust, then _______" was the general form of the statement. (the blank is not just one word) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 741 Registered: 12-2010 |
Then... the war will end? our town will be spared? our family will be spared? you will be spared? Did this happen during the war? Afterwards? Relevant when exactly? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3252 Registered: 9-2010 |
Then... the war will end? thisish - it is closest. How does a war end? no to rest our town will be spared? our family will be spared? you will be spared? Did this happen during the war? Yes Afterwards? Relevant when exactly? Well, apparently Wikipedia is off about her age...if she was 12 during the Blitz, she was born in 1928, not 1935, unless I misunderstood what she was saying... | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 743 Registered: 12-2010 |
Hmm, how does a war end? Well, either you capitulate or the enemy does. Or the enemy invades your country and occupies it. Or you do the same thing with the enemy, lol. Any of these? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3254 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hmm, how does a war end? Well, either you capitulate or the enemy does. Or the enemy invades your country and occupies it. Or you do the same thing with the enemy, lol. Any of these? I was going for simpler wording, but I'll give you it. It was "If you strap down your bust, it will help us win the war." | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 220 Registered: 2-2011 |
does a war end when someone surrenders? when someone signs a peace treaty? were they entertaining the troops at the time? was there a danger that the soldiers would react to her unfettered bosoms? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3255 Registered: 9-2010 |
does a war end when someone surrenders? when someone signs a peace treaty? I was just looking for "someone wins". were they entertaining the troops at the time? was there a danger that the soldiers would react to her unfettered bosoms? no, lol, all irrelevant. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 746 Registered: 12-2010 |
Hmm, I'm confused now. Did they really think her strapping down her bust would help them win the war? Or did they just tell her? Did she believe it? You said "in the end, they were quite right" - did anything relevant happen that was caused by her strapping down her bust? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3258 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hmm, I'm confused now. Did they really think her strapping down her bust would help them win the war? Or did they just tell her? lol, they just told her that to earn her compliance on the issue. As she told her audience, "they said that about EVERYTHING in those days." Did she believe it? at the time, yes, and as she was relating the story, she said "And it worked, didn't it? We DID win, didn't we?" You said "in the end, they were quite right" - did anything relevant happen that was caused by her strapping down her bust? not *really* caused by it, but see above, lol. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 748 Registered: 12-2010 |
Hmm, okay. So, what exactly is left to find out? Who she is? Anything else? (: | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3260 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hmm, okay. So, what exactly is left to find out? Who she is? Anything else? (: Who she is, and (which will lead naturally off from it) her most famous roles. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 750 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is she still alive? Does wikipedia say she was born in 1928? or 1935? Was she born in the UK? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3262 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is she still alive? Yes Does wikipedia say she was born in 1928? or 1935? this Was she born in the UK? yes indeed, in England | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 753 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it Julie Andrews? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3265 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is it Julie Andrews? indeed so! Dame Julie Andrews. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 755 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are the roles you're thinking of Mary Poppins and My Fair Lady? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3266 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are the roles you're thinking of Mary Poppins and My Fair Lady? Two out of three...what was her other most famous film in that time period, besides Mary Poppins? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 756 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it The Americanization of Emily? The Sound of Music? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3267 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is it The Americanization of Emily? you know what, I've never heard of this one!! lol! The Sound of Music? this is it!!! ***SPOILER*** At a concert in Los Angeles, CA in 1989 (I found links on YouTube, just look for "Julie Andrews concert", the one where she's wearing a black and white shirt) Dame Julie Andrews told a story about her childhood. It seems that as she grew up during the second World War, it was common to tell children to do things "to help win the war". Well, her mother and stepfather used that phrase on her to get her to hide her blossoming figure without wounding her 12-year-old dignity. Of course, it must have helped, as she quipped, because the Allies DID win the war, didn't they? *grin* One of Dame Julie's most famous films, "The Sound of Music", is not at all famous in the location where it's set: Austria. This seemed odd to me until I realized...the story's about the Nazi occupation of Austria, well, they're not really going to want to revisit that now, are they? (It's apparently not popular in Germany either, likely for the same reason). Salzburg, Austria, would seem to be the exception...but they mostly do tourist tours and such things. "My Fair Lady", her most famous Broadway role, was made into a film, but Julie was passed over for the film role in favour of another actress. When she was accepting the awards for her role in Mary Poppins, then, she had a moment of sweet revenge as she thanked the director of "My Fair Lady" for making this moment possible. And now you all know the rest of the story! =P | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 223 Registered: 2-2011 |
thanks Kaylee |
