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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This might be a tougher one, but let's see how it turns out.

It made sense, but that wasn't convenient.
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"it" - an assertion? A statement? A thing?

"That" - an assertion? A statement? A thing? The same thing as "it"?

Not convenient - for you? For one specific person? For a group of people? For a lot of people? For everyone?
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"it" - an assertion? A statement? A thing? Neither of those really, let's say it was a line of thought.

"That" - an assertion? A statement? A thing? The same thing as "it"? This

Not convenient - for you? Yes, no to the rest For one specific person? For a group of people? For a lot of people? For everyone?
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LTPF relevant? Your job? Another hobby of yours?
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LTPF relevant? Yes Your job? No Another hobby of yours? Can't say that it's a hobby, so no
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LTPF members relevant? One of your own posts? someone else's post?
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LTPF members relevant? No One of your own posts? Yes someone else's post? No
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Is it the post which made sense? Is the post on one of your puzzles? Someone else's?
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Is it the post which made sense? No Is the post on one of your puzzles? Yes Someone else's? Thus no


Thinking about it, I guess I need to correct one of my previous answers...

"That" - an assertion? A statement? A thing? The same thing as "it"? Maybe yesish is more appropiate
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Is the post the puzzle solution? Puzzle statement?
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Is the post the puzzle solution? No Puzzle statement? Yes
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Is the puzzle:

"Oh no, not again..."?
"Don't try this yourself!"?
"Out of my way"?
"Oh joy"?
"The little things"?
"I hate mondays..."?
"The Secret Ingredient"?
This one?

Did I miss any?
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Is the puzzle:

"Oh no, not again..."?
"Don't try this yourself!"?
"Out of my way"?
"Oh joy"?
"The little things"?
"I hate mondays..."?
"The Secret Ingredient"?
This one? This

Did I miss any? I don't even know, lol
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Is the puzzle statement the "it"? The "that"?
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Is the puzzle statement the "it"? The "that"? Neither, beware of FA

The puzzle statement is relevant in a way but "it" isn't related to the LTPF. Maybe I should give a few more hints...

RECAP:

The other day, I had a train of thought that I assumed doesn't make any sense, but I later figured out that it did. This, however, meant an inconvenience to me. The puzzle statement of this puzzle is relevant.
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Is the puzzle statement the "it"? The "that"? Neither, beware of FA

The puzzle statement is relevant in a way but "it" isn't related to the LTPF. Maybe I should give a few more hints...

RECAP:

The other day, I had a train of thought that I assumed doesn't make any sense, but I later figured out that it did. This, however, meant an inconvenience to me. The puzzle statement of this puzzle is relevant (although maybe not in the way you think).
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(Sorry for the double-post. I thought I had cancelled the first one...)
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Is the inconvenience related to this puzzle? Were you going to post a different puzzle? Was the line of thought related to that?
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Is the inconvenience related to this puzzle? Yes Were you going to post a different puzzle? Yes Was the line of thought related to that? My line of thought didn't have to do with the LTPF, but yes, the inconvenience was that I had to make a puzzle different from the one I had planned, due to my line of thought actually making sense.
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Would the potential puzzle have been solved faster than you'd have liked?
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Would the potential puzzle have been solved faster than you'd have liked? If it would've been a no-brainer? I guess not, but you guys are good after all :-) Let's say that it would've been way easier than this puzzle is.

The following questions still need to be answered:

What triggered my line of thought?
What was the line of thought?
Why did I think that it didn't make any sense?
How come it actually made sense?
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Did the line of thought have to do with the LTPF? Your job? Any hobby of yours? Any person? Or people? Yourself? A scenario? An action?
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Did the line of thought have to do with the LTPF? No Your job? No Any hobby of yours? No Any person? Yesish Or people? Yesish Yourself? Yesish A scenario? Yes An action? Yes
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Did the line of thought have to do with your family? Other relatives? Friends?
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Did the line of thought have to do with your family? Yesish, but irrelevant. No to the rest Other relatives? Friends?
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Did the line of thought involve sports? Food? Sleep? Dreaming? Movies? Entertainment? Media?
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Did the line of thought involve sports? Food? This Sleep? Dreaming? Movies? Entertainment? Media?
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Cooking food? Eating food? Growing food? Preparing food? A certain type (or types) of food?
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Potatoes? (Potatos? ...*always wonders whether to spell it with an e or not*)
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Cooking food? This Eating food? That's what triggered the line of thought Growing food? No

Preparing food? Not really sure about the difference between "cooking" and "preparing" in this context, but I take it that "cooking" refers more to the heating process, so "preparing" might be more suitable. In any case, something about the ingredients is relevant.

A certain type (or types) of food? Yes, a certain meal.


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Potatoes? No, lol (Potatos? ...*always wonders whether to spell it with an e or not*) I always wonder about that, too xD
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Meal - as in breakfast/lunch/dinner? As in a certain course (entree, appetizer, dessert)? As in a specific dish (chicken a la fancy or whatnot)?
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Does the meal contain any of the following;
meat?
fish?
poultry?
eggs?
dairy?
grains?
fruit?
vegetables?
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Meal - as in breakfast/lunch/dinner? Could be lunch or dinner As in a certain course (entree, appetizer, dessert)? Main course As in a specific dish (chicken a la fancy or whatnot)? Yes

meat? This...
fish?
poultry?
eggs? ...and either this...
dairy?
grains? ...or this (assuming you mean cereal in general and not single grains).
fruit?
vegetables? And yesish to that.
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I meant any kind of food product based on grains, including cereals, bread, pasta, rice, etc.

Is the type of meat relevant?

Would you use either eggs or grains? Never both?

The Yesish to vegetables, does it mean that vegetables are only used occasionally? or that you use something that may or may not be classified as a vegetable?
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I meant any kind of food product based on grains, Then I got you right :-) including cereals, bread, pasta This, rice, etc.

Is the type of meat relevant? Yes

Would you use either eggs or grains? Never both? Ah, I messed that up, there's a variant with grains only and one with added eggs, but I guess it's now obvious that I meant the pasta anyway xD

The Yesish to vegetables, does it mean that vegetables are only used occasionally? No or that you use something that may or may not be classified as a vegetable? There can be varying amounts of vegetable, depending on the recipe, but what I actually mean is something that I suppose wouldn't really be called vegetable by anyone xD
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Some sort of casserole? Or quiche?
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Some sort of casserole? Or quiche? No to both
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So is it considered a pasta dish? Or some other dish which happens to include pasta?
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So is it considered a pasta dish? This Or some other dish which happens to include pasta?
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Does the dish have a relevant sauce? Does the dish include anything besides the pasta (and sauce, if there is one)?
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Does the dish have a relevant sauce? Yope Does the dish include anything besides the pasta (and sauce, if there is one)? Yes, meat, see above
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Is the dish served with a specific type of meat? Does the type of meat vary?

Is the specific type of pasta always the same? Or can it vary?
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Beware of FA. It's not necessary to determine the exact dish, so your following questions tend to be irrelevant. It's only one of its components that's relevant for this puzzle.

Is the dish served with a specific type of meat? Does the type of meat vary? It's meat that is prepared in a certain way, but it can come from different animals.

Is the specific type of pasta always the same? Yes Or can it vary?
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RECAP (and some help):

The other day, while I was eating, I had a train of thought that I assumed didn't make any sense. It had to do with one component of a pasta dish (containing a meat sauce). Said dish had been cooked by two persons (any many, many more, but that's irrelevant), at different times and under different circumstances.

I was going to make a LTPF puzzle about how my line of thought was erroneous, but then I found out something due to which it did make sense. For that reason, I had to change the puzzle I originally had in mind and created this one instead.
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Did the train of thought involve the meat? The sauce? The pasta? Some other part of the dish?
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Did the train of thought involve the meat? Yesish The sauce? Yes The pasta? No Some other part of the dish? No
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Is the meat part of the sauce? Do we have to find all the (other) ingredients in the sauce?
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Is the meat part of the sauce? Yes Do we have to find all the (other) ingredients in the sauce? No
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When you say the type of meat is relevant, do you mean the specific cut? Or the animal which is now the meat?
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When you say the type of meat is relevant, do you mean the specific cut? Or the animal which is now the meat? It's only relevant because it's part of the sauce which, in turn, is relevant.
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Were you curious as to how the sauce was made? The ingredients in the sauce?
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Were you curious as to how the sauce was made? Specify please (remember, the meal had been cooked by two persons) The ingredients in the sauce? No, but...
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Did only one person make the sauce? Two people? Or was the sauce store-bought?
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Did only one person make the sauce? Two people? Or was the sauce store-bought?

These are very good questions, but there's a FA in there. You'd want to figure out another thing, then ask these questions again. Reminder: Two persons cooked a meal, at different times and under different circumstances, but...
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Was the same meal prepared both times? Did only one meal include the sauce? Did both?
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Was the same meal prepared both times? Yesish - the prepared meal would be called the same name in both cases, but it's not exactly the same. Did only one meal include the sauce? Same FA as above Did both? Well, both had sauce...
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Did they both have the same sauce? Did one sauce include the meat and one leave it out?
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Did they both have the same sauce? Now, this is what my train of thought was about... ^^ Ask more here. Did one sauce include the meat and one leave it out? No
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Did you wonder if they had the same sauce?
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Did you wonder if they had the same sauce? YES!!!

Now, why did I think that this didn't make sense?
Why did it make sense and how did I figure that out?
Who are "they"?
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Did the dishes taste different? Similar? The exact same?

Are "they" people you know?
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Did the dishes taste different? Similar? This The exact same?

Are "they" people you know? I only know one of them.
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Was every other aspect of the dish completely different? Or were they the same?

Could you please recap?
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Was the sauce ready-made? canned? frozen? and the second person defrosted/heated/microwaved it?
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When you say "the same sauce", do you mean just the same type of sauce? or that the ingredients were the same and in precisely the same amounts?

Did it not make sense that they were the same because:
One of the ingredients you thought was in the first sauce was no longer available? the sauces were called by different names? the dish overall was prepared in a different style (e.g. ethnic background) each time?

Did it later make sense because: they may have used the same recipe? they may have both already bought the sauce pre-made from a store?
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Was every other aspect of the dish completely different? Or were they the same? Irr, but assume that apart from the sauce, all ingredients were the same.

Could you please recap? Sure, see below

Was the sauce ready-made? Person 2 (the one who cooked the meal later) used a ready-made sauce. canned? Irr frozen? Irr and the second person defrosted/heated/microwaved it? See above; irrelevant for Person 1

When you say "the same sauce", do you mean just the same type of sauce? Not only this... or that the ingredients were the same and in precisely the same amounts? Yesish - I thought that both persons used the ready-made sauce.

Did it not make sense that they were the same because:
One of the ingredients you thought was in the first sauce was no longer available? No, but somewhat OTRT. No to the rest. the sauces were called by different names? the dish overall was prepared in a different style (e.g. ethnic background) each time?

Did it later make sense because: they may have used the same recipe? Yes, see next question they may have both already bought the sauce pre-made from a store? Yes, they both could've bought it, because...



RECAP:

The other day, while I was eating, I wondered if two persons (who are yet to be determined) had used the same kind of meat sauce for their Spaghetti Bolognese. Both persons cooked the dish at different times and under different circumstances (you may want to ask some questions about those two aspects), but while I don't know about Person 1 (who had cooked the dish earlier), Person 2 used a ready-made sauce bought from a store.

For a reason that is yet to be determined as well, I initially assumed that my train of thought didn't make any sense. I was going to make a LTPF puzzle about how my line of thought was erroneous, but then I found out something due to which it did make sense. For that reason, I had to change the puzzle I originally had in mind and created this one instead.
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did you taste the dish that person 1 had prepared?

was it prepared a long time ago?

in another country?
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did you taste the dish that person 1 had prepared? Yes

was it prepared a long time ago? YES!

in another country? No
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Had the dish been reheated?
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wild guess - was person number 1 your mother/grandmother?
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Had the dish been reheated? No

wild guess - was person number 1 your mother/grandmother? Neither
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was the first dish prepared at school?

was the identity of the person who first prepared the dish known to you?

is the sauce sold as a convenience food? and it isn't very convenient? or it wasn't on the 2nd occasion? on the 1st?

was it extrememly inconvenient? and is the reason why relevant?
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was the first dish prepared at school? No

was the identity of the person who first prepared the dish known to you? Yope

is the sauce sold as a convenience food? The sauce used by person 2 was. and it isn't very convenient? or it wasn't on the 2nd occasion? On the 2nd occasion, it clearly was convenient. on the 1st? Well...

was it extrememly inconvenient? and is the reason why relevant? OTWT
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Did you think that sauce #1 was homemade? But later found out that it wasn't? Or vice versa?
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Did you think that sauce #1 was homemade? I assumed that it was, but then... But later found out that it wasn't? Or vice versa? Yesish
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or later tasted a sauce sold as a convenience food which tasted the same or just as good and wondered whether the first sauce had in fact bee home-made?
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or later tasted a sauce sold as a convenience food which tasted the same or just as good and wondered whether the first sauce had in fact bee home-made? YES!!! :-D

The other day, I ate some pasta with a sauce sold as a convenience food (person 2 is me, myself ^^) and its taste reminded me of the sauce of a pasta dish I had often eaten in a reastaurant that my family used to frequent when I was a kid (thus, person 1 is the restaurant cook preparing the dish).

Now, how come I at first thought that this didn't make any sense? And why did it actually make sense?
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Ah, I kinda forgot a sentence and I guess I should add it to make it clear: My line of thought was that the restaurant used the ready-made sauce as well.
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is it to do with how long ago you used to go to the restaurant?

like - that was before convenience food had been invented? ;oD

perhaps you had been thinking that it would have had to be microwaved but then realised that it could have been heated another way?

or did it pre-date the formation of the company which made the suace?
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is it to do with how long ago you used to go to the restaurant? Yes

like - that was before convenience food had been invented? ;oD lol, it wasn't that long ago. xD A good question, though.

perhaps you had been thinking that it would have had to be microwaved but then realised that it could have been heated another way? No

or did it pre-date the formation of the company which made the suace? No, but OTRT
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Is the convenience sauce made by the people/company that owns the restaurant? Is the restaurant a chain restaurant? A personal-owned one? Did the restaurant use the ready made sauce in their pasta? A similar product? Or did he make the ready made sauce? Or did he used to until it got bought out by big company but it's still the same recipe?
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Is the convenience sauce made by the people/company that owns the restaurant? No

Is the restaurant a chain restaurant? A personal-owned one? Irr, assume personal-owned

Did the restaurant use the ready made sauce in their pasta? A similar product? I assume that they make their own sauce, but the ready-made sauce strongly reminded me of it and I wondered whether they actually used the ready-made one, too.

Or did he make the ready made sauce? Or did he used to until it got bought out by big company but it's still the same recipe? OTWT
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could it be that the name of the sauce appeared to be too modern to have been around back then?

eg named after a movie character? or a song?
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could it be that the name of the sauce appeared to be too modern Yes, but irr to have been around back then? YES! I thought the sauce hadn't already existed back then, but...

eg named after a movie character? or a song? No to those
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Have we nailed down the time period yet?

If not, [LTPF list of decades]?
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Have we nailed down the time period yet? I've mentioned that the restaurant visits happened when I was a child, making it the early to mid-90s.

If not, [LTPF list of decades]? See above
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Is it a common restaurant? A fast-food place?
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Is it a common restaurant? Irr, assume no A fast-food place? Irr, assume no

There's no need to figure out more about the sauce or the restaurant really. I simply assumed that the sauce hadn't existed when I was a child just because, for no real reason. Just figure out how I found out that my line of thought did make sense (=the sauce had existed; should be fairly easy), and then I guess all the important aspects are covered.
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Hmm...coming into this one fairly late but here goes.

Did you have the sauce for the 2nd time in the same country as those first times in your childhood? Is this relevant?

You seemed to indicate the name of the sauce was not important to why you assumed it didn't exist...Yes?
Something to do with the packaging?
Method of preparation?
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Hmm...coming into this one fairly late but here goes. No problem at all ^^

Did you have the sauce for the 2nd time in the same country as those first times in your childhood? Yes Is this relevant? No

You seemed to indicate the name of the sauce was not important to why you assumed it didn't exist...Yes? Right
Something to do with the packaging? No
Method of preparation? No

I had no real reason for assuming that the sauce didn't exist when I was a child, I just did. Maybe my overall impression of it was that it was too modern.
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So the only thing left to figure out is why you realized that sauce HAD existed at that time? Did something prove to you that it had existed? or merely showed that its existence was not unreasonable?

Did you recall your parents having bought such a sauce at around the same time as you used to go to that restaurant? or another product with the same brand? or did that sauce, or another product with the same brand, appear in advertisements you remembered seeing as a kid?
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So the only thing left to figure out is why you realized that sauce HAD existed at that time? Yes Did something prove to you that it had existed? Yesish or merely showed that its existence was not unreasonable? No

Did you recall your parents having bought such a sauce at around the same time as you used to go to that restaurant? No or another product with the same brand? No or did that sauce, or another product with the same brand, appear in advertisements you remembered seeing as a kid? No

It's all much, much simpler than that ;-)
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I iz still confuseded kitteh :-(
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Did the description of the dish in the restaurant name the sauce explicitly?
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did it say on the label "Established ...."?
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Did the description of the dish in the restaurant name the sauce explicitly? No

did it say on the label "Established ...."? No

Well, I did some fact-checking between planning to post the original puzzle and posting this one...
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Did you realize it because of a web search?
Looking up info in a reference book?
Something on the label or packaging of Sauce #2?
Anything about the ingredients relevant?
And we established the name of the sauce does not matter?
Or the packaging?
Or the preparation method?


We are guessing at why you thought a prepackaged version of the sauce didn't exist when you ate it the first time? And even though that line of thought was wrong (?), it did make some sort of logical sense?
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Did you realize it because of a web search? This
Looking up info in a reference book?
Something on the label or packaging of Sauce #2?
Anything about the ingredients relevant?
And we established the name of the sauce does not matter?
Or the packaging?
Or the preparation method?


We are guessing at why you thought a prepackaged version of the sauce didn't exist when you ate it the first time? The "why" isn't relevant. I just thought it didn't. And even though that line of thought was wrong (?), it did make some sort of logical sense? See the you-know-what that's coming up...
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******************* SPOILER *******************


When I was a child (some time in the early 90s), me and my family used to frequent a restaurant in which I often had the pasta on the kid's menu.

Some time before posting this puzzle, I had eaten some pasta with a ready-made sauce, the taste of which reminded me of the sauce on the pasta I used to have in the restaurant mentioned above and it made me wonder whether they used the same ready-made sauce back then. But I immediately dismissed the thought because for a reason that I couldn't put my finger on, I thought that the sauce hadn't existed at that time.

I was going to post a puzzle about the above, but then I did a web search on the sauce to be on the safe side and it turned out that the sauce has existed "for more than 30 years". Since it already was around back then, it was possible that the restaurant used the sauce, thus my line of thought made sense.

However, figuring that out was inconvenient to me because I couldn't post the puzzle I had in mind and had to create a new - this - one.



I'm sorry for this puzzle being so confusing. I had expected this to be a tough one but judging what you guys can do, I was certain that you'd be able to solve it and I was right :-) Great work, everyone!

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