| Author | Message | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 883 Registered: 9-2010 |
Ok. this is a bit of a different type of puzzle. When she was younger, my sister had a scrund related tothe following four things. Your task is to figure out what that scrund was. The only connection you need to figure out between the four things is the scrund itself. But figuring out other connections might help you. Here they are My Grandmother Jerry Garcia My neighbor's dog The goldfish in my kindergarten classroom | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12655 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is your grandmother's name relevant? The dog's? The goldfish's? Jerry Garcia - relevant that he was missing a finger? Was part of the Grateful Dead? Had a Ben & Jerry's ice cream flavor named for him? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 345 Registered: 2-2011 |
was your neighbour's dog missing a body part? your grandma? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 884 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is your grandmother's name relevant? No, but if you want one, use her real one, Sylvia The dog's? No, but it was Shana The goldfish's? No, and I don't remember his name, so you can pick one Jerry Garcia - relevant that he was missing a finger? Was part of the Grateful Dead? Had a Ben & Jerry's ice cream flavor named for him? No to all. He was missing a finger? was your neighbour's dog missing a body part? your grandma? No to all | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12661 Registered: 4-2010 |
I say we call the goldfish "Fish." I'm too tired to come up with anything else. Is your grandmother alive? The dog? The fish? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 348 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it a physical attribute that you thought they had in common? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 888 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is your grandmother alive? No, goo question The dog? No, good question The fish? Noish is it a physical attribute that you thought they had in common? It was my sister, but I guess you could describe it that way, for lack of a better phrase | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12662 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the fish always the same fish? Or was it replaced over and over again? Longevity relevant? Or lack of it? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 889 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was the fish always the same fish? Assume yes Or was it replaced over and over again? Longevity relevant? Or lack of it? No | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 471 Registered: 7-2010 |
Does it have to do with outward appearance? Maybe with the color of something? Are birthplaces relevant? Are abilities? Or habits? Or the liking of something? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 893 Registered: 9-2010 |
Does it have to do with outward appearance? Maybe with the color of something? Are birthplaces relevant? Are abilities? Or habits? Yes Or the liking of something? No to rest | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 473 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is eating relevant? Sleeping? Arranging things? Hygiene (can't imagine that for a fish, but still... xD)? Doing something to music? Doing something before/during/after something else? And if so, as a kind of ritual, for no obvious reason? Is it, as far as you can tell, a common habit? Or something very specific? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 897 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is eating relevant? Sleeping? Arranging things? Hygiene (can't imagine that for a fish, but still... xD)? Doing something to music? Doing something before/during/after something else? And if so, as a kind of ritual, for no obvious reason? None of these Is it, as far as you can tell, a common habit? Or something very specific? Yope to both, FA. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12669 Registered: 4-2010 |
Hobbies relevant? Instinctual habits? Bad habits? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 900 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hobbies relevant? No Instinctual habits? No Bad habits? Absolutely | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 901 Registered: 9-2010 |
And as a hint, it might help to clear up the FA before you go any further | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12676 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the scrund about bad habits? A certain bad habit? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 474 Registered: 7-2010 |
Isn't it one habit in particular but a set of bad habits? Or bad habits in general? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 902 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the scrund about bad habits? Noish A certain bad habit? Noish Isn't it one habit in particular but a set of bad habits? Yesish: I'm going to clarify here so we don't get confused. There are four relevant habits, although one of them is only yopishly a habit. We can call them A, B, C, and D. A, B, and C are the ones which are bad habits, and D is yopishly a habit and could be called bad, but that's only yopishly true as well. Or bad habits in general? See above | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 476 Registered: 7-2010 |
Do all the persons and animals you named have all four habits? Or only some or one of them? Or does... your Grandmother have habit A, Jerry Garcia have habit B, your neighbor's dog have habit C and the goldfish in your kindergarten classroom have habit D (not meaning D = the "bad" "habit", but just D = not A, B and C)? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 904 Registered: 9-2010 |
Do all the persons and animals you named have all four habits? Or only some or one of them? Or does... your Grandmother have habit A, Jerry Garcia have habit B, your neighbor's dog have habit C and the goldfish in your kindergarten classroom have habit D (not meaning D = the "bad" "habit", but just D = not A, B and C)? None of the above precisely. Grandmother Had Habits A and B Jerry Garcia had A and C The neighbor's dog didn't have any of them And the Goldfish had the yopishly bad yopish habit, which we are calling D. However, the above list is potentially deceiving, and considering it's a scrund, you should be able to figure out why. | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 905 Registered: 9-2010 |
Slight Blooper: The goldfish only yopishly had Habit D. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12793 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you think any of them had habits which they didn't have? Did have? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 956 Registered: 9-2010 |
Remember... My sister had this scrund, not me. Answering questions based on her. Did you think any of them had habits which they didn't have? Yes to all except the goldfish Did have? Yes to all except the goldfish and the dog (who didn't have any of the habits, as we have already determined) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12806 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she think they had the ones they didn't have? Vice versa? Both? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 962 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did she think they had the ones they didn't have? Vice versa? Both? She thought Grandma, Dog, and Jerry Garcia all had all four. She didn't think the Goldfish had any but the Goldfish yopishly having habit D is relevant. So now all you have to figure out is why she thought this. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12813 Registered: 4-2010 |
Relevant that fish live in water? Don't have limbs? Celebrities missing fingers | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 968 Registered: 9-2010 |
Relevant that fish live in water? Don't have limbs? no to all | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2495 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are any of the habits that she though the deceased people/animals had habits they would have had before their deaths? Or after? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1026 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are any of the habits that she though the deceased people/animals had habits they would have had before their deaths? Or after? A, B, and C would have been before. I'm not really sure how to classify D. But their deaths are very relevant. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2497 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was her scrund anything along the lines that "they're dead because they had habits A,B,andC?" | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1031 Registered: 9-2010 |
Was her scrund anything along the lines that "they're dead because they had habits A,B,andC?" Pretty close. Close enough for a *****SPOILER****** So in 1997, my Grandma Sylvia died. And my mother explained that some of the factors in her death were that she drank alcohol and smoked cigarettes (habits A and B). Around the same time, Jerry Garcia died. My mother explained that he died because he drank alcohol and did drugs (habits A and C). Also, our neighbor's dog Shayna died, although she did none of those. Finally, I was appointed to feed the goldfish in my kindergarten classroom. My mom said "Don't feed them too much or they'll explode". And my sister said "So then what?" and my mom said "They die". So then Leanne (who was 3 at the time) had her moment of brilliance, saying "Grandma Sylvia, Jerry Garcia, and Shayna the dog all drank alcohol, smoked cigarettes, did drugs, and exploded". Which is completely hillarious if you ask me. Obviously, using her three-year-old mind she was thinking "If X then Y" means the same as "If Y then X" where X is either drinking alcohol, doing drugs, smoking cigarettes, or exploding, and Y is dying. We still laugh about this to this day. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13008 Registered: 4-2010 |
The "exploded" is the kicker. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3481 Registered: 9-2010 |
lololol! (you should make her your court jester in Gregory Coke Land :-D) | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 961 Registered: 8-2010 |
Or educate her about the perils of affirming the consequent. For example, the statement "if your parachute is faulty you'll plummet to your death" does not imply that merely not having a faulty parachute will guarantee survival. |
