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Doriana (Doriana)
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After several fires, he finally had a "Eureka!" moment.
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Fires - like something physically burning? like shooting? or just something going wrong?

He- H? A? M?
Is he famous?
Time and location relevant?
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"Fires" - being removed from jobs?
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Eureka = how to avoid getting fired?
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Fires - like something physically burning? this, no to rest like shooting? or just something going wrong?

He- H? A? M? yes
Is he famous? DOYD of famous... yope?
Time and location relevant? yesish, USA, early 20th century

"Fires" - being removed from jobs? no

Eureka = how to avoid getting fired? no
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Are the fires an intended consequence of whatever he's doing? an unintended consequence? a method of doing whatever he's doing?
Does his Eureka moment come as a direct result of the fire(s)? or something else?
Is any one of the fires more relevant than the others toward the Eureka moment? If so, the last one?
Is he a scientist? Is his profession relevant?
Are these real fires? or fictional ones (like in a game or video game)?
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Are the fires an intended consequence of whatever he's doing? an unintended consequence? a method of doing whatever he's doing? no, and FA!
Does his Eureka moment come as a direct result of the fire(s)? yope or something else? yope
Is any one of the fires more relevant than the others toward the Eureka moment? no If so, the last one? so, no
Is he a scientist? yope Is his profession relevant? yes
Are these real fires? yes or fictional ones (like in a game or video game)? no
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is he a chef? a fire-eater? an entertainer? an artist? a builder? an educator?

the fires - bonfires? house fires? objects catching fire?
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is he a chef? a fire-eater? an entertainer? an artist? a builder? an educator? no to all

the fires - bonfires? no to all house fires? maybe objects catching fire? yes
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Is he present at the fires?
Did he start one or all of the fires?
Is it relevant who started the fires?
Were they accidental fires?

His profession within "Yopeish" science:
Does he play a scientist on TV?
Would he call himself a scientist?
Is the time period important? (I guess I'm asking, does "scientist" as a profession exist in the time period in which he lives?)

Can we name him? How about Fargo? (Hey, YOU brought up Eureka...)

Speaking of, Eureka as in "Aha, I have learned/realized something"?
Eureka as one of the many towns named Eureka?
Eureka as in the line of vacuums? ;)
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the objects - clothing? food? wood? chemicals? books? paper products? buildings? vehicles? dummies? rubber items? plastics? gases?
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Did he deal with fires while doing his job?
Were all the fires same or very similar?
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Is he present at the fires? NO
Did he start one or all of the fires? no
Is it relevant who started the fires? yope
Were they accidental fires? yesish

His profession within "Yopeish" science: FA, he is yopeishly a scientist because he had a degree in science but didn't work in this field.
Does he play a scientist on TV? no
Would he call himself a scientist? maybe
Is the time period important? (I guess I'm asking, does "scientist" as a profession exist in the time period in which he lives?) first half of the 20st century

Can we name him? How about Fargo? (Hey, YOU brought up Eureka...) sure

Speaking of, Eureka as in "Aha, I have learned/realized something"? this
Eureka as one of the many towns named Eureka?
Eureka as in the line of vacuums? ;) lol, no

the objects - clothing? food? wood? chemicals? THIS and as a consequence maybe some of the others as well books? paper products? buildings? vehicles? dummies? rubber items? plastics? gases?

Did he deal with fires while doing his job? yesish
Were all the fires same or very similar? yes, the relevant fires where all similar
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Were they always the same chemicals? Different ones each time?
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Were they always the same chemicals? no Different ones each time? maybe not each time, but different ones are involved. However, it's not really relevant what they were exactly.
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Does he fight fires? If so, does he use different types of extinguishers? Was he figuring out which ones worked and which ones did not?
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Based on true story? Fictional? Legend? Urban legend?
From your imagination?
From someone else’s?

We have houses and objects and chemicals catching fire…
Is the point of origin of the fires relevant?
Are they starting in the homes? Or are the homes just impacted?
Are the chemicals starting the fires?
By themselves?
Through their interaction with something else?
With intervention from someone else?
Are the fires occurring because of natural causes?
Lightning?
Spontaneous combustion due to high temp?
Some interaction of sunlight and a lens?

The “yesish” intersection of the fires and his job:
I think we established he is NOT a firefighter. Is this correct?
Is he investigating the fires?
Is he reporting on the fires?
Is he involved with cleaning up after the fires?
Does he own the property (properties) impacted?
Work there?
Is he mayor, police chief, or some other role of authority that makes him “responsible” for dealing with the fires?

Does he know who/what is starting the fires?
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is he developing a new type of fire extinguisher?
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Does he fight fires? no If so, does he use different types of extinguishers? Was he figuring out which ones worked and which ones did not? so, no

Based on true story? yes Fictional? Legend? Urban legend?
From your imagination?
From someone else’s? so, no to rest

We have houses and objects and chemicals catching fire…
Is the point of origin of the fires relevant? yes, very much so
Are they starting in the homes? yes, in homes and/or... Or are the homes just impacted? home might be impected too
Are the chemicals starting the fires? yes
By themselves? unlikely
Through their interaction with something else? possibly
With intervention from someone else? usually yes
Are the fires occurring because of natural causes?
Lightning? no to these two
Spontaneous combustion due to high temp? no
Some interaction of sunlight and a lens? no

The “yesish” intersection of the fires and his job:
I think we established he is NOT a firefighter. Is this correct? yes, it is
Is he investigating the fires? yesish
Is he reporting on the fires? no
Is he involved with cleaning up after the fires? no
Does he own the property (properties) impacted? no
Work there? no
Is he mayor, police chief, or some other role of authority that makes him “responsible” for dealing with the fires? no

Does he know who/what is starting the fires? yes, and that's important

is he developing a new type of fire extinguisher? no
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Is he starting the fires? Are the fires starting naturally? Is arson being committed?
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Is he starting the fires? no Are the fires starting naturally? no Is arson being committed? no
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The fires are starting in homes and...
offices?
garages?
cars?
stores?
yards?
forests?
parks?
in a specific relevant room in the house?

Is he trying to figure out how the fires are starting?
How to stop them?

Are the fires being started by a human? Adult? Child? Animal? Aliens?
By more than one of the humans/animals/aliens?
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The fires are starting in homes and...
offices?
garages?
cars?
stores?
yards?
forests?
parks?
in a specific relevant room in the house? no to all

Is he trying to figure out how the fires are starting? yesish
How to stop them? no

Are the fires being started by a human? Adult? usually this Child? Animal? Aliens?
By more than one of the humans possibly/animals/aliens?

HINT/Clarification: Remember that he "investigates" fires - he deals with lots of fires in his job, but not all of them are relevant for his "Eureka!" moment.
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does he work in insurance?
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The fires are started by humans, but no arson involved, correct?
Do the fires start willingly? On purpose? Unwillingly?
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Is smoking relevant?
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does he work in insurance? YES

The fires are started by humans, but no arson involved, correct? correct
Do the fires start willingly? On purpose? Unwillingly? this

Is smoking relevant? no
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Does he "Eureka" because he's realized the cause?
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Does he "Eureka" because he's realized the cause? yope, this is important, but there's more to it
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is it the combination of chemicals which causes the fires to start?

or is it leaking containers?

are they commonly found around the house? photographic supplies?

retires smugly for getting the insurance connection
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is it the combination of chemicals which causes the fires to start? possibly, but unlikely for the relevant fires

or is it leaking containers? no

are they commonly found around the house? no, or I don't know, but the most relevant fires didn't happen at home photographic supplies? no

retires smugly for getting the insurance connection one small step for you, a great leap for the puzzle!
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are the chemicals stored in warehouses? shops? restaurants? offices?

are the fires caused by overheating? evaporation? chemical reaction? the action of sunlight?
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are the chemicals stored in warehouses? shops? restaurants? offices? probably an FA

are the fires caused by overheating? this is closest evaporation? chemical reaction? the action of sunlight?
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although these substances are different chemicals, do they have something in common? (apart from the fires, that is)

are they all used for the same purpose? eg cleaning materials? foodstuffs? fertilizers? pesticides? herbicides? paint? dye?
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Lightning relevant?
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although these substances are different chemicals, do they have something in common? (apart from the fires, that is) not the substances themselves...

are they all used for the same purpose? no eg cleaning materials? foodstuffs? fertilizers? pesticides? herbicides? paint? dye?

Lightning relevant? no

Here's a RECAP to help you:
A man works for an insurance company and investigates fires. All the relevant fires have to do with chemicals and are caused by humans, but no arson is committed.
After several fires of the same "type", he realizes something, but this something is not directly related to the fires or how to avoid/extinguish/prevent them.
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is it because humans are accidentally mixing these substances with something else?

leaving these substances next to radiators? other heat source?
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is it because humans are accidentally mixing these substances with something else? no

leaving these substances next to radiators? other heat source? no, but explore heat
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Do the chemicals start the fire by overheating? Is a human applying an excessive heat source to the chemicals? To something near the chemicals? To the room the chemicals are in?
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He realizes:
a needed change to homes? home safety? chemical storage? safe chemicals for cleaning use?
a certain common practice needs to change?

(Um...)that he hates his job?
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Do the chemicals start the fire by overheating? no Is a human applying an excessive heat source to the chemicals? yes To something near the chemicals? To the room the chemicals are in? those two are possible as well

He realizes:
a needed change to homes? no home safety? no chemical storage? yope safe chemicals for cleaning use? no
a certain common practice needs to change? yope

(Um...)that he hates his job? probably this as well (;
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Did he realize something concerning chemicals? Chemical reaction? Did he do any important discovery in the field of chemistry?
Did he change his job after his discovery?
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is the thing he realised that the fires were not started deliberately?
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Did he realize something concerning chemicals? no-ish Chemical reaction? Did he do any important discovery in the field of chemistry? no
Did he change his job after his discovery? YES

is the thing he realised that the fires were not started deliberately? that's part of what he realised, but not the final thing
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Are the chemicals the direct cause of the fire? Or are they applied to something else which then catches fire?

Was the chemical sold? For some home use (or something)? Without realizing its flammability?
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Are the chemicals the direct cause of the fire? yes Or are they applied to something else which then catches fire? no

Was the chemical sold? no For some home use (or something)? no Without realizing its flammability? yope, explore
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is the heat caused by static electricity? lightning? friction? conduction? convection? radiation?
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is the heat caused by static electricity? lightning? friction? conduction? convection? radiation? no to all, and the cause of the heat is not essentially important.
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As a result of his discovery, did he have to pay money to the insured entities? Did he suspect the fires to be started deliberately, at first? And he realized that it wasn't true?
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As a result of his discovery, did he have to pay money to the insured entities? Did he suspect the fires to be started deliberately, at first? And he realized that it wasn't true? unknown to all
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The relevant fires:
In urban areas?
Suburban?
Rural?
Uninhabited?
IN SPACE?!

Are fires underwater even possible? Oooh! In submarines?

Are the chemicals alone flammable? Or is the way they are combining? The way they age?
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The relevant fires:
In urban areas? probably
Suburban? probably
Rural? rather unlikely
Uninhabited? rather unlikely
IN SPACE?! no

Are fires underwater even possible? According to Spongebon - yes Oooh! In submarines? no

Are the chemicals alone flammable? yes Or is the way they are combining? The way they age? no to these

HINT for all Simpsons fans: Dr. Nick once experienced a fire that was caused by the relevant reason.
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Were the chemicals labeled? And someone misunderstood the labels?
Firecrackers relevant?

Is the date relevant?
(I'm thinking July 4th but that's a US thing...)
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Were the chemicals labeled? yes And someone misunderstood the labels? yes!
Firecrackers relevant? no

Is the date relevant? no, and the relevant fires didn't happen on the same date
(I'm thinking July 4th but that's a US thing...)
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did they misunderstand the storage instructions? this way up? store in a cool place? keep away from heat? keep out of direct sunlight? flammable?

or what the chemicals were?

petroleum products? paint? grain?
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For his Eureka! moment, did he make any general observation about people? Did he observe that people who are hired to care for chemicals know nothing about chemistry? or cannot read labels properly?
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did they misunderstand the storage instructions? yes this way up? store in a cool place? keep away from heat? keep out of direct sunlight? no to these flammable? YES

or what the chemicals were? no

petroleum products? paint? grain? unknown

For his Eureka! moment, did he make any general observation about people? yope Did he observe that people who are hired to care for chemicals know nothing about chemistry? no or cannot read labels properly? noish
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Did they think "inflammable" meant "not flammable"?
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Did they think "inflammable" meant "not flammable"? yes!

Here's another RECAP, and of course googlepedia is allowed too.

A man works for an insurance company and investigates fires. All the relevant fires are caused by people who misunderstood labels on chemicals, e.g. they thought "inflammable" meant "not flammable".
After several of these fires, the man realises something that is related to those labels and understanding them.
Keep in mind that he changed his profession!
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Did he suggest adding something to the label?
Changing the word used?
Did he change his job to something in public safety?
Become a latin teacher? (after he realized no one understands that the prefix "in" has two very different meanings...)
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Were the chemicals meant for indoor use? Outdoor? Were they used indoors? Outdoors?
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Did he suggest adding something to the label?
Changing the word used?
Did he change his job to something in public safety?
Become a latin teacher? (after he realized no one understands that the prefix "in" has two very different meanings...) no to all

Were the chemicals meant for indoor use? Outdoor? Were they used indoors? Outdoors? irrel to all, assume they were used indoors
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did he invent the international symbol for flammable?

did he move into labelling? design?
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did he invent the international symbol for flammable? no

did he move into labelling? design? no to both
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Did he become politician? Or did he move to another job connected with projecting regulations?
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Did he become politician? Or did he move to another job connected with projecting regulations? no to both

HINT: His realisation and his job change led to something that is nowadays known as the X-Y-hypothesis. Y is his last name, X is someone else's last name.
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Did he become scientist? Did the hypothesis concern probabilities?
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Did he become scientist? I wouldn't call it "scientist" but he went into research - figure out which field Did the hypothesis concern probabilities? no
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Psychological research? Does the hypothesis concern what information people are likely to retain in their memory?
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Psychological research? no with a slight ish Does the hypothesis concern what information people are likely to retain in their memory? no
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Did his hypothesis (the "X-Y-hypothesis") actually relate to or explain the phenomenon of people misreading labels or other text? or did he just give up on trying to educate people about fire safety, and therefore do something else entirely?

Is this hypothesis "serious", in the sense that it could be tested in experiments? or is it more humorous, like Murphy's Law? (I know that one was actually intended to be serious originally, but it seems that has gone by the wayside now)

Does his area of research pertain to language? to cognitive science? to sociology?
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I think I got it. Should I spoil the fun?
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It's a language-skills-related area of research, no?
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Did his hypothesis (the "X-Y-hypothesis") actually relate to or explain the phenomenon of people misreading labels or other text? yesish to yope or did he just give up on trying to educate people about fire safety, and therefore do something else entirely? no

Is this hypothesis "serious", in the sense that it could be tested in experiments? yes or is it more humorous, like Murphy's Law? no (I know that one was actually intended to be serious originally, but it seems that has gone by the wayside now)

Does his area of research pertain to language? yes to cognitive science? a bit of that too to sociology? and this as well

I think I got it. Should I spoil the fun? sure, go ahead (:
It's a language-skills-related area of research, no? yes
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This puzzle may refer to the so-called "Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis." This is basically a conjecture that the structure of language constrains the way its speakers may conceptualize their world-view.

Whorf was an 'amateur' linguist in that had no formal academic recognition in the field. He was a Chemical Engineer working for an insurance company as a fire inspector and had been a student of Sapir.

The story goes, that upon inspecting a chemical plant, Whorf observed that the plant had two storage rooms for gasoline barrels: one for full barrels and one for empty barrels. He noticed that while no employees smoked cigarettes in the room of full barrels, many smoked in the room of empty barrels.

Smoking in the empty barrel room was more dangerous due to the inflammable vapors that existed in the barrels. A moment of thought would have revealed this to the workmen, so he conjectured that the use of the word 'empty' in connection with the barrels had led the workers to subtly perceive the empty barrels to be less dangerous than the full ones.

There is much interesting information available on the internets via a search of the term: Sapir-Whorf.
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Exactly! (:

And another part of the story is that people had problems understanding that "inflammable" is the same thing as "flammable" sind "in" is usually used to indicate the contrary of something.

Nice work, guys!
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I take it that's the Big S?

(Clever puzzle!)
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Yes, that was the ********SPOILER********.

Speaking of spoilers, Sapir, we usually don't spell the word out until the puzzle is solved because otherwise it might automatically be moved to the "solved puzzles" section. We use $poyler or something like that instead (:
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I understand now.
Please forgive me.
I will post a very nice puzzle and dedicate it to you, Doriana -- my first friend here.
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aww, Doriana is a very good friend to have =) I believe it was Balin who said LTPF'ers were "like the perfect friends". I'm still fairly new...I've only been here a few months. It's good to see another new person :-) Welcome, Sapir!

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