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Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 10:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Most people would agree that the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the proximate cause of the end of World War Two. It is, however, arguable that it was actually a conventional bombing raid that prevented the war's continuation. Explain.
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Did it happen in Europe?
In Asia? Japan?
In the Pacific?
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Did it happen in Europe?
In Asia? Japan? This.
In the Pacific?
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Did the bombing occur after the atomic bombs were dropped? Before? Between the two?

Did the US perform this bombing raid?
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Was anybody in particular killed by the bombing? Wasn't killed but had reason to think he/she well could have? Was certain relevant damage to objects done to something by the bombing?
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Did the bombing occur after the atomic bombs were dropped? This. Before? Between the two?

Did the US perform this bombing raid? Yes.

Was anybody in particular killed by the bombing? No one specific, no. Wasn't killed but had reason to think he/she well could have? Was certain relevant damage to objects done to something by the bombing? No.
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Did the bombing occur after the atomic bombs were dropped? This. Before? Between the two?

Did the US perform this bombing raid? Yes.

Was anybody in particular killed by the bombing? No one specific, no. Wasn't killed but had reason to think he/she well could have? No. Was certain relevant damage to objects done to something by the bombing? No.
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I'm about to email a $pioaler.
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Oops. Just saw the bombing occurred after the bombs were dropped. So I can't be right. I was thinking about how US dropped a conventional bomb on Kokura several days before it was supposed to drop the second atom bomb on it, but the first bomb made smoke and so between that and the cloud cover, they couldn't see the city and had to use the backup target of Nagasaki.
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You're right. This is nothing to do with Kokura.
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Did they only drop one bomb? A few? Many?

Did they drop the bombs on a relevant city? Did they even have a target? Or just drop them haphazardly?
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Did they only drop one bomb? A few? Many? This.

Did they drop the bombs on a relevant city? No, but... Did they even have a target? Yes. Or just drop them haphazardly?
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Did they destroy something relevant on the ground? Intentionally? If I understand correctly, the timeframe for the event described is 9-15 August, right?
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Did they destroy something relevant on the ground? Yope; while they destroyed something, the thing itself is not relevant. Intentionally? Yes. If I understand correctly, the timeframe for the event described is 9-15 August, right? Yes.
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Did the bombing demonstrate something relevant? Such as air superiority? Did they demonstrate that they could drop an atomic bomb there if they wanted? Geographical location within Japan relevant? A specific building in Japan relevant to the bombing? Or person?
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Did the bombing prove that aims certainly far from base can be reached by planes, which was earlier doubtful? Did the bombing show the superiority of reconnaissance and intelligence service?
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Did the bombing demonstrate something relevant? No. Such as air superiority? Did they demonstrate that they could drop an atomic bomb there if they wanted? Geographical location within Japan relevant? Yes. A specific building in Japan relevant to the bombing? Not directly. Or person? No, but...
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A certain city in Japan relevant?
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A certain city in Japan relevant? Yes. Specifically, Tokyo.
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Did they bomb Tokyo? Were they targeting Tokyo? A certain part of Tokyo?
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Did they bomb Tokyo? Were they targeting Tokyo? A certain part of Tokyo? None of these.
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Is the only relevant location the one of the bombing? Or are there other relevant locations? Such as the area they flew over? Or a place they did not bomb? Weather relevant? Time of day? type of bombs? Were they normal high explosive bombs? firebombs? Something else?
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The Imperial Palace of Tokyo relevant? The Emperor himself? Members of the Royal Family?
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Is the only relevant location the one of the bombing? No. Or are there other relevant locations? Yes. Such as the area they flew over? Yes. Or a place they did not bomb? Yes. Weather relevant? No. Time of day? Yes. type of bombs? No. Were they normal high explosive bombs? firebombs? Something else?

The Imperial Palace of Tokyo relevant? Yes. The Emperor himself? Yes. Members of the Royal Family? No.
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Did they bomb the area around Tokyo?
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Did they bomb the area around Tokyo? Yes.
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Did they want to make it seem like they were going to bomb Tokyo?
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Did they want to make it seem like they were going to bomb Tokyo? No.
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Did they show that they could, if they wanted, bomb: Tokyo? The palace? The emperor? Did they demonstrate precision bombing? Could the raid be called a demonstration? A threat?
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Did they show that they could, if they wanted, bomb: Tokyo? The palace? The emperor? Did they demonstrate precision bombing? Could the raid be called a demonstration? A threat? No to all.
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Did the Emperor fear a similar attack could destroy the Palace? Kill him? End the monarchy?

The Emperor addressed the people to tell them about the surrender -- was he also aware of the bombing?

Did the members of the bombing squad miss their objective and accidentally bombed some other area?
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Did the Emperor fear a similar attack could destroy the Palace? Kill him? End the monarchy? Irr.

The Emperor addressed the people to tell them about the surrender -- was he also aware of the bombing? I doubt it.

Did the members of the bombing squad miss their objective and accidentally bombed some other area? No.
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Was the bombing intended to barricade the Emperor (or someone else) in Tokyo? To prevent people from entering the city? From leaving?
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Was the bombing intended to barricade the Emperor (or someone else) in Tokyo? To prevent people from entering the city? From leaving? None of these.
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Was the bombing a technically ordinary one? Were there any new types of planes used? New types of conventional bombs? New equipment?
Did the attack cause extraordinary (I mean other that normal bombings would have caused) behaviour of civilians? Of defenders? Of military commanders? of the Emperor?
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Was the bombing a technically ordinary one? Yes. Were there any new types of planes used? New types of conventional bombs? New equipment?
Did the attack cause extraordinary (I mean other that normal bombings would have caused) behaviour of civilians? Of defenders? Of military commanders? of the Emperor? No to all.
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As far as I know, after Nagasaki the Japanese government was still divided in those who were ready to surrender, those who were strictly against it and those who would accept that surrender in the end is inevitable but would try to negotiate better conditions. Is this relevant?
Was the bombing basically to show that there won't be any negotiations about conditions?
Was the aim to achieve a pro-surrender majority in the government?
or to create even more chaos (I think there was even an attempt to overthrow the government)? so that the emperor could sack the government and order his subjects to surrender without losing his face?
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As far as I know, after Nagasaki the Japanese government was still divided in those who were ready to surrender, those who were strictly against it and those who would accept that surrender in the end is inevitable but would try to negotiate better conditions. Is this relevant? Very much so.
Was the bombing basically to show that there won't be any negotiations about conditions? No.
Was the aim to achieve a pro-surrender majority in the government? No.
or to create even more chaos No, but... (I think there was even an attempt to overthrow the government Yes, there was.)? so that the emperor could sack the government and order his subjects to surrender without losing his face? No. You are, however, very much OTRT at this point.
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Was the bombing intended to show that the Japanese government was incapable of stopping the Americans from attacking? And so the government would rather surrender than lose face? And possibly be overthrown?
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Was the bombing squad (or their superiors) aware that this raid will move Japan close to surrender? Or was it merely a fortunate accident?
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Was the bombing intended to show that the Japanese government was incapable of stopping the Americans from attacking? No. And so the government would rather surrender than lose face? I'm pretty sure the whole point was that surrendering would cause loss of face. And possibly be overthrown? No.

Was the bombing squad (or their superiors) aware that this raid will move Japan close to surrender? No. Or was it merely a fortunate accident? Yes.
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As a result of the bombing: surrender was no longer connected with losing face? the opposers of the surrender were dead? the opposers of the surrender decided to support the surrender?
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Did the government finally realize that the desorganization has reached a level that their army would not be able to withstand much longer?
but surrender because of one's own incapability would be shameful? while surrender to an over-mighty enemy would not (at least not that much)?
Did the bombing come ready as a justification for surrender?
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As a result of the bombing: surrender was no longer connected with losing face? the opposers of the surrender were dead? No, but... the opposers of the surrender decided to support the surrender? None of the others.

Did the government finally realize that the desorganization has reached a level that their army would not be able to withstand much longer? No.
but surrender because of one's own incapability would be shameful? while surrender to an over-mighty enemy would not (at least not that much)? Neither - if it was they could have surrendered earlier after one of the previous 80 cities had been firebombed off the map.
Did the bombing come ready as a justification for surrender? No.
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Did the squad bombed the building where the opposers of surrender gathered? Did the squad bombed a military location? A civilian location?
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Did the squad bombed the building where the opposers of surrender gathered? No, but... Did the squad bombed a military location? A civilian location? This.
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Did they bomb a civilian location on purpose? by mistake?
wasn't it forbidden to aim on civilian targets?
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Did they bomb a civilian location on purpose? Yes. by mistake?
wasn't it forbidden to aim on civilian targets? No.
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Did many people die in the bombing? Any people?
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Did many people die in the bombing? Doubtful. Any people? Likely. Both irr.
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A bombed location was a public place? private property?
If a public place, was it a governmental building?
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A bombed location was a public place? private property? Likely this.
If a public place, was it a governmental building? Might have been owned by the government, or at least nationalized.
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Did they bombed the Imperial Palace?
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Did they bombed the Imperial Palace? No.

Hint: What they bombed is irrelevant.
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Size of the bombing relevant?
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Size of the bombing relevant? No.
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Was a capitulation a foreseen and expected by Allies result of the bombing?
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Was a capitulation a foreseen and expected by Allies result of the bombing? No.
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Did the bombing occur during the day? During night?
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Did the bombing occur during the day? During night? This.
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Hint: The fact that it was bombed at night is highly relevant.
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Was it an accident? They were aiming somewhere else and couldn't see what they were looking for?
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Was the bombed place's work during the night something other that during the day? Were there people present during the night?
Were industrial sites destroyed during the bombing?
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Was it an accident? No. They were aiming somewhere else and couldn't see what they were looking for? No.

Was the bombed place's work during the night something other that during the day? No. Were there people present during the night? Irr.
Were industrial sites destroyed during the bombing? Likely, irrelevant.
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Did they (inadvertently) prove that they possess a technique for accurate bombing in situations with very poor visibility?
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Did they (inadvertently) prove that they possess a technique for accurate bombing in situations with very poor visibility? No.
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Did someone mistake conventional bombs for atomic bombs? Did the raid make Japanese think that atomic bombing of Tokyo is possible?
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Did someone mistake conventional bombs for atomic bombs? Irr. Did the raid make Japanese think that atomic bombing of Tokyo is possible? They thought a raid on Tokyo was possible -- whether nuclear or conventional is irrelevant.
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Did Japanese fear of a raid on Tokyo, as a result of the bombing?
The fact that bombing occured at night is important because of: darkness? poor visibility? people sleeping? time zones?
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Did Japanese fear of a raid on Tokyo, as a result of the bombing? Yes.
The fact that bombing occured at night is important because of: darkness? poor visibility? Primarily this. people sleeping? time zones?
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Did the Japanese think that the aim of the raid was Tokyo but the bombing squad missed in the darkness?
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Did the Japanese think that the aim of the raid was Tokyo but the bombing squad missed in the darkness? Irr.
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Did the bombing seem as setting the background for raid on Tokyo?
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Did the bombing seem as setting the background for raid on Tokyo? Not the bombing itself, but...
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Were the bombers flying over Tokyo?
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sorry for my lack of military knowledge...
Did Japanese think the planes were doing reconnaissance before the raid on Tokyo? Doing photos? Due to the poor visibility, could the Japanese properly see what the planes were exactly doing there?
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Were the bombers flying over Tokyo? Yes.

Did Japanese think the planes were doing reconnaissance before the raid on Tokyo? Possibly. Doing photos? Irr. Due to the poor visibility, could the Japanese properly see what the planes were exactly doing there? Daylight wouldn't have told them anything relevant.
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If the bombers only had flown over Tokyo, not bombing anything, would the result still have been the capitulation? Same question if bombers only had flown over Tokyo in broad daylight?
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If the bombers only had flown over Tokyo, not bombing anything, would the result still have been the capitulation? Yes. Same question if bombers only had flown over Tokyo in broad daylight? No.
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Did the Japanese recognize the planes as bombers? As American?
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Did the Japanese recognize the planes as bombers? Yes.As American? Yes.
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Is the anti-aircraft power of the Japanese ground army relevant? Did they lack capacity to deter attacks carried at night?
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Is the anti-aircraft power of the Japanese ground army relevant? No. Did they lack capacity to deter attacks carried at night? Yes, but irrelevant.
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The part of the bombing which made Japanese to think that the squad was setting background for the attack on Tokyo was: sounds? blasts? lights? something else entirely?
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The part of the bombing which made Japanese to think that the squad was setting background for the attack on Tokyo was: sounds? This. blasts? lights? something else entirely?
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Were there any specific sounds which made Japanese think so? Or just sounds of bombing in general? Did the Japanese fear the raid on Tokyo in near future? Or did they think the attack itself was a raid on Tokyo?
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Were there any specific sounds which made Japanese think so? Yes. Or just sounds of bombing in general? Not of bombing. Did the Japanese fear the raid on Tokyo in near future? Or did they think the attack itself was a raid on Tokyo? This.
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Sounds of planes flying?
Did the Japanese announce capitulation during the raid?
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Sounds of planes flying? Yes.
Did the Japanese announce capitulation during the raid? No.
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So, there was a conventional night bombing raid around Tokyo and the sounds of planes flying made Japanese believe that's an attack on Tokyo. It somehow prevented the war continuation. It wasn't a demonstration of superiority, the area bombed is not relevant. The bombing didn't cause any extraordinary effects - besides capitulation. And the Imperial Palace and Emperor are relevant. Correct?
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So, there was a conventional night bombing raid around Tokyo and the sounds of planes flying made Japanese believe that's an attack on Tokyo. It somehow prevented the war continuation. It wasn't a demonstration of superiority, the area bombed is not relevant. The bombing didn't cause any extraordinary effects - besides capitulation. And the Imperial Palace and Emperor are relevant. Correct? All correct.
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did the Japanese overestimate the number of bombers?

was it the sound of the planes? was there something unusual about the sound of the planes?
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did the Japanese overestimate the number of bombers? Irrelevant.

was it the sound of the planes? This is relevant. was there something unusual about the sound of the planes? No.
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Did the planes sound like they were headed towards Tokyo? Doppler effect relevant?

Did the Japanese surrender before the completion of the attack? After?
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Did the planes sound like they were headed towards Tokyo? Yes. Doppler effect relevant? No.

Did the Japanese surrender before the completion of the attack? After? This.
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Are lights on the planes relevant? Did they appear to be heading to Tokyo?
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For that matter, did the planes have lights at all?
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did they mistake the sound of the planes for something else?
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Are lights on the planes relevant? No. Did they appear to be heading to Tokyo? Yes.

did they mistake the sound of the planes for something else? No.
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Did the Emperor do something relevant?
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Did the Emperor do something relevant? Not at the time, but...
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did he do something relevant before? after? is the relevant Emperor, Akihito? his predecessor?
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Did the Emperor issue orders in case of attack on Tokyo?
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did he do something relevant before? This. after? is the relevant Emperor, Akihito? his predecessor? This.

Did the Emperor issue orders in case of attack on Tokyo? No, but someone else did.
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Ok, so someone else issued orders in case of attack on Tokyo. Did those plans concerned the Emperor? Were those plans carried out during the bombing?
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Ok, so someone else issued orders in case of attack on Tokyo. Did those plans concerned the Emperor? No. Were those plans carried out during the bombing? Yes.
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were the plans for the evacuation of the palace?
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were the plans for the evacuation of the palace? No.
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Did the plans involve capitulation?
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did the plans involve the succession?
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Did the plans involve capitulation? No.

did the plans involve the succession? No.
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Did the plans involve overthrowing the government?
Could you please recap?
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Did the plans involve overthrowing the government? You've got an FA about who has the plans and what their purposes are.Could you please recap?
The Japanese surrender at the end of World War II was ultimately affected by a conventional bombing raid near Tokyo, and not the atomic raids on Hiroshima and Nagasaki as most historians would say. This was due to a specific plan of the Tokyo government. This plan did not directly involve the Emperor or plans to surrender, but nonetheless affected both. This is relevant.

As a hint, this plan was common to virtually all cities that were bombed during the war (and many that weren't) on both sides.
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were the plans to evacuate Tokyo?
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were the plans to evacuate Tokyo? No.
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Were the plans to turn the lights off?
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Going to shelters after an attack was announced -- relevant?
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Were the plans to turn the lights off? Yes.

Going to shelters after an attack was announced -- relevant? No.
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Were the lights turned off?
Was it impossible to turn off all lights in Tokyo?
Did it turn out that the Emperor's Palace (or the port? military buildings? oil refineries?) were even better visible with lights turned off?
Did the high buildings of Tokyo give enough fixed points for radar so that the bombs could be dropped on target even in complete darkness?
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Were the lights turned off? Yes.
Was it impossible to turn off all lights in Tokyo? No.
Did it turn out that the Emperor's Palace (or the port? military buildings? oil refineries?) were even better visible with lights turned off? No.
Did the high buildings of Tokyo give enough fixed points for radar so that the bombs could be dropped on target even in complete darkness? Irr.
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Were the lights turned off? /b{Yes.}
Was it impossible to turn off all lights in Tokyo? No.
Did it turn out that the Emperor's Palace (or the port? military buildings? oil refineries?) were even better visible with lights turned off? No or Irr.
Did the high buildings of Tokyo give enough fixed points for radar so that the bombs could be dropped on target even in complete darkness? Irr.
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Is the following correct?
1) Allied forces perform a conventional bombing raid around Tokyo
2) The raid is mistaken by Japanese to aim on Tokyo
3) The lights in Tokyo are turned off
4) Something missing, somehow concerning the Emperor
5) Capitulation of Japan.

Did the Emperor react to turning off the lights?
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Is the following correct?
1) Allied forces perform a conventional bombing raid around Tokyo
2) The raid is mistaken by Japanese to aim on Tokyo
3) The lights in Tokyo are turned off
4) Something missing, somehow concerning the Emperor
5) Capitulation of Japan. All correct.

Did the Emperor react to turning off the lights? No.
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Were there any similar raids on Tokyo before? Did they turn off the lights too in those? Did they turn off the lights in the palace?

Did the emperor give a relevant order before? Were there any plans to physically harm the emperor or someone from the family, and those plans could be easier put into action with the lights turned off?
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Were there any similar raids on Tokyo before? Yes. Did they turn off the lights too in those? Yes. Did they turn off the lights in the palace? Yes.

Did the emperor give a relevant order before? Before the last raid? Yes. Were there any plans to physically harm the emperor or someone from the family No., and those plans could be easier put into action with the lights turned off?
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Were only lights turned off? Or the electricity in general? Did anything important stop working?
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Were only lights turned off? This. Or the electricity in general? Did anything important stop working? Other than the lights? No.
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Hint: This occurred the night before the surrender.
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Is this relevant? (My grandfather emailed this to me, but I haven't looked at it to see what exactly it says. The description in the body of the email mentions something about a raid on Tokyo after Pearl Harbor though.)
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No, that's the Doolittle Raid in April, 1942, the first attack on Japan which was really just a morale raiser for the US (all 16 planes were lost, but hey, we bombed Tokyo!). It had nothing to do with the surrender of Japan (though it did give a shot in the arm to Japanese air-raid defenses).

The center of Tokyo was later obliterated by an 800-plane raid in March 1945 -- much more effective.
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Oh. Ok. I don't know why Japan felt we had to be bombed in the first place...we didn't *do* anything, did we?! It seems to me like the USA tried to be neutral about other people's wars, and then something would happen to get the Americans involved. I don't know, I need to take a refresher course on the World Wars I guess.
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We stopped up their oil and other resources, which they needed to fight in China (because the Army was being expansionist). In order to take resource-rich areas from the Dutch and British, they had to first neutralize the US fleet -- and the best way to do that was to surprise-attack Pearl Harbor. That was also the best way to ensure that the US would be royally P-O'ed, but the Japanese Army wasn't good at thinking ahead.

Yes, this is relevant! The Japanese Army anyway. ;)
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*ponders this* I heard a story...actually, I think it was a lateral puzzle in a book...maybe one of Paul's books...about a part of the Japanese military who played a war game. Some of them were playing Americans, and got told off by their general after the exercise because they did a maneuver that let the Americans win the fight...something the Japanese didn't think they could do. And not long after, the real Americans pulled off the thing the Japanese who had played Americans did. And the Americans won that fight.
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I posted that! As far as I know, it isn't in a book yet. And it's irrelevant, as it is about the Japanese Navy.
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oh, then it was your puzzle, lolol. clearly, I spend too much time here if I can't recall what's in a book and what isn't. But don't worry, I won't go away anytime soon, I love this place =)

although, I loved it even more when woubit was here, since he is most woubit-y and brilliant... =( where is he?

*misses woubit*
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A document is missing or has been taken?
Is there a safe involved?
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A document is missing or has been taken? No, but this is a very relevant question.
Is there a safe involved? Possibly.
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Did the bombing cause something else happening which made the surrender inevitable?
Or, the other way round: did the bombing prevent something from happening, so that the surrender became inevitable?
Diplomatic procedures relevant?
I think there was an exchange of diplomatic notes between Japan and the US in the days before the surrender? (through the US embassy in Switzerland?)
The main point was that Japan basically would agree to surrender but wanted guarantees for the position of the emperor, while the US for formal reasons insisted on unconditional surrender .. is this relevant?
Did the surrender automatically come into power because Japan missed to raise objections against the terms? because of the bombing raid?
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Document(s) was(were) placed in a safe?

If the document(s) was(were) not found within a short time window, WWII history would likely be different?
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Did the bombing cause something else happening which made the surrender inevitable? Yesish.
Or, the other way round: did the bombing prevent something from happening, so that the surrender became inevitable? Yes.
Diplomatic procedures relevant? Yesish.
I think there was an exchange of diplomatic notes between Japan and the US in the days before the surrender? (through the US embassy in Switzerland?) Irr.
The main point was that Japan basically would agree to surrender but wanted guarantees for the position of the emperor, while the US for formal reasons insisted on unconditional surrender .. is this relevant? No.
Did the surrender automatically come into power because Japan missed to raise objections against the terms? because of the bombing raid? No to both.

Document(s) was(were) placed in a safe? Very likely.

If the document this. (s) was This. (were) not found within a short time window, WWII history would likely be different? No. Quite relevant, though there were other, perhaps more important factors.
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Did the Japanese have a chance to retaliate? To defend themselves? Or was this a surprise attack? Were the Japanese warned in advance? Was the emperor?
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Did the Japanese have a chance to retaliate? To defend themselves? Or was this a surprise attack? Were the Japanese warned in advance? Was the emperor? All irrelevant.
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Did the document need to be urgently sent by any means dependent on light, which was impossible due to lights being turned off?
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Did the document need to be urgently sent by any means dependent on light, No. which was impossible due to lights being turned off? But the blackout did make something impossible.
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Did the document state an opinion? Contain factual information? Create a legal effect?

Was it impossible to read the document in the dark? To bring it from one place to another? To verify it was in place? To change it? To destroy it?

Was the document originally created by the emperor? A former emperor? Some government official? Someone in the military? A judge? Lawyer? Religious dignitary?
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was it impossible to read something? so that the wrong document was taken out of/put into a safe? or signed?
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Did the document state an opinion? Contain factual information? Create a legal effect? This.

Was it impossible to read the document in the dark? To bring it from one place to another? Thisish. To verify it was in place? To change it? To destroy it?

Was the document originally created by the emperor? Yes. A former emperor? Some government official? Someone in the military? A judge? Lawyer? Religious dignitary?

was it impossible to read something? No. so that the wrong document was taken out of/put into a safe? or signed?
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Did the document appoint someone? Dismiss someone? Promote? Degrade? Declare war to some country? Proclaim a state of war/emergency/siege internally? Regulate (part of) the organisation of the military? The foreign service? Internal administration? Give specific military orders? Orders to diplomats? Other officials?
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did the emporer resign or abdicate?
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Did the document contain a speech or declaration of the emperor? sort of an announcement?
Was it intended that the document was broadcasted by radio? that night?
Did the document state readyness to surrender? to surrender under some conditions? objection to surrender under conditions imposed by the US?
Did the blackout also affect phone and telegraph lines?
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Did the document appoint someone? Dismiss someone? Promote? Degrade? Declare war to some country? Proclaim a state of war/emergency/siege internally? None of these. Regulate (part of) the organisation of the military? The foreign service? Internal administration? Give specific military orders? Orders to diplomats? Other officials? Yesish to all.

did the emporer resign or abdicate? No.

Did the document contain a speech or declaration of the emperor? Yes. sort of an announcement? Yes.
Was it intended that the document was broadcasted by radio? Yes. that night? No.
Did the document state readyness to surrender? Yes. to surrender under some conditions? No. objection to surrender under conditions imposed by the US? No.
Did the blackout also affect phone and telegraph lines? Irr.
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Did the document state the readiness to unconditional surrender?
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Did the document state the readiness to unconditional surrender? Yes.
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They dropped copies of the peace treaty drawn up between Japan, China and the US explaining Japan's surrender. At the same time somesort of conflict or powerstruggle was going on on the ground? Thus swaying the side that surrenders?
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Did the blackout prevent someone who was opposed to unconditional surrender from getting hold of the document? From being informed of the fact someone was preparing for unconditional surrender?
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Did the blackout prevent someone who was opposed to unconditional surrender from getting hold of the document? This. From being informed of the fact someone was preparing for unconditional surrender?

*Spoiler*Ahead*

Hotheads in the Japanese Army who got wind of the plan to surrender on August 14, 1945, attempted a coup on the night of the 13th, with the intention of capturing the Emperor and his surrender declaration. Due to an air-raid alarm, most of them got lost and the coup failed.

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