| Author | Message | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1415 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jai had been looking forward to Tuesday for a long time. Sadly he never made it; he died on Monday. Had he died on Tuesday, Raj would have gotten nothing. Why? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3289 Registered: 1-2001 |
Are Jai and Raj both human? Does their age(s) matter? Their gender(s)? So did Jai die on Monday? When Jai died, was Raj alive? Was Raj a beneficiary of some kind, such as one who is named in a will? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1420 Registered: 8-2001 |
Are Jai and Raj both human? Yes Does their age(s) matter? Yes, in a lateral way. Their gender(s)? Yes, both male. So did Jai die on Monday? Yes When Jai died, was Raj alive? Yes Was Raj a beneficiary of some kind, YES! such as one who is named in a will? But not this way. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1011 Registered: 2-2011 |
as Jai died on Monday, did Raj get lots? money? land? power? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3291 Registered: 1-2001 |
Are Jai and Raj friends? Are they of the same family? Do they know each other? If not, do they know OF each other? Is either person a child? An adult? An elderly person? A baby? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1421 Registered: 8-2001 |
as Jai died on Monday,Yes did Raj get lots? Lots of...? money? No land? No power? No | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3295 Registered: 1-2001 |
I posted a few q's earlier, but thought of a few more... Had Raj made some kind of bet about Jai? Is the cause of Jai's death relevant? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1430 Registered: 8-2001 |
I posted a few q's earlier, but thought of a few more...Whoops! Feel free to poke me if I miss your Qs like that. Are Jai and Raj friends? Yes, perhaps Are they of the same family? YES Do they know each other? Yes If not, do they know OF each other? and Yes Is either person a child? Yes-ish An adult? Yes An elderly person? I would not say ELDERLY... A baby? No Had Raj made some kind of bet about Jai? No Is the cause of Jai's death relevant? YES | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3296 Registered: 1-2001 |
Did Raj kill Jai? Was Jai murdered? Killed accidentally? Died from an illness? Died from natural causes? Died from an unexpected cause that wasn't an illness (like a stroke, heart attack, aneurism)? Is Jai's age 1-10 yrs? 11-20? 21-30? 31-40? 41-50? 51-60? 61-70? 71-80? older? Same q for Raj. | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 796 Registered: 6-2003 |
Are Jai and Raj brothers? or father and son? Is Raj older than Jai? Would Raj have got anything if Jai - died before Monday? - died after Tuesday? Would something special have happened to Jai on Tuesday? an anniversary? would he have received a title? a right? property? would he have married? Are there other people relevant? if so: Jai's parents? Raj's parents? does one of the relevant persons die shortly before? shortly after Jai? Inheritance laws relevant? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1433 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ixoye724 Did Raj kill Jai? YES - had him killed. Same difference Was Jai murdered? Yes Killed accidentally? No Died from an illness? No Died from natural causes? No Died from an unexpected cause that wasn't an illness (like a stroke, heart attack, aneurism)? No Is Jai's age 1-10 yrs? 11-20? 21-30? 31-40? 41-50? 51-60? 61-70? 71-80? older? Same q for Raj. Let's go with Jai is in his 60s, Raj in his 40s. Sundowner Are Jai and Raj brothers? No or father and son? YES! Is Raj older than Jai? No Would Raj have got anything if Jai - died before Monday? No - died after Tuesday? Yes! Would something special have happened to Jai on Tuesday? Yes an anniversary? Yes would he have received a title? a right? property? None of these. would he have married? No Are there other people relevant? if so: Jai's parents? Raj's parents? does one of the relevant persons die shortly before? shortly after Jai? No other folks are terribly relevant. Inheritance laws relevant? In a way... | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1014 Registered: 2-2011 |
would it have been Jai's birthday on Tuesday? was he due to inherit something at a certain age? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1441 Registered: 8-2001 |
would it have been Jai's birthday on Tuesday? No was he due to inherit something at a certain age? Yope, age and... | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 865 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was there an additional - besides age - condition for Jai to inherit goods? If so: marital status? being married for X years? financial condition? family status? having Y children? education? To clear up: as Jai died on Tuesday, Raj got nothing, correct? Or got nothing from the big thing Jai was waiting for? Did Raj inherit, being Jai's son, "normal" inheritance? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1448 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was there an additional - besides age - condition for Jai to inherit goods? FA here. If so: marital status? No being married for X years? No financial condition? No family status? No having Y children? No education? No To clear up: as Jai died on Tuesday, Raj got nothing, correct? The puzzle statement states Jai died on Monday. Or got nothing from the big thing Jai was waiting for? FA Did Raj inherit, being Jai's son, "normal" inheritance? YOPE. Explore. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 867 Registered: 1-2011 |
Sorry, of course Jai died on Monday. So, was the thing Jai was waiting for connected with gaining a financial benefit? Is this relevant that there is a rule in some countries that murderer does not inherit after a victim? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 802 Registered: 6-2003 |
Does now Raj receive what otherwise Jai would have got? Or somebody else would have got? Or did Raj have it already before Jai died? and now does not have to hand it over to Jai? Or would nobody get anything if Jai died on Tuesday? Life insurance relevant? Did Jai have a life insurance that ended Monday 12:00 pm? with Raj as beneficiary? (So much criminal energy ..) | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1457 Registered: 8-2001 |
Redwine Sorry, of course Jai died on Monday. No worries. Funny enough, I originally wrote this without the specific day names but thought that would be too confusing. Ha! So, was the thing Jai was waiting for connected with gaining a financial benefit? No Is this relevant that there is a rule in some countries that murderer does not inherit after a victim? This rule is not relevant. Sundowner Does now Raj receive what otherwise Jai would have got? NO! Good Q Or somebody else would have got? Yes... Or did Raj have it already before Jai died? No, he did not. and now does not have to hand it over to Jai? No Or would nobody get anything if Jai died on Tuesday? Someone not in the puzzle would get something. Let's call him Mohinder. Life insurance relevant? No Did Jai have a life insurance that ended Monday 12:00 pm? with Raj as beneficiary? No to both (So much criminal energy ..) On the forum? Or in this puzzle? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1559 Registered: 9-2009 |
Mohinder -- is he a brother of Raj? Stepbrother? Otherways related to Raj? Does his age matter (is relevant) to the puzzle? Some laws about the first born in a family? I am unsure if these have been asked: True story? Country relevant? Period relevant? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 876 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Jai make a will? Did someone else make a relevant will? Jai had an anniversary on Tuesday, correct? Was it wedding anniversary? Family anniversary? Any professional anniversary? Were Raj and Mohinder "competitors" for inheritance after Jai? Did law of inheritance change on Tuesday? Did Raj want Jai to die ON MONDAY? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1470 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rbruma Mohinder -- is he a brother of Raj? No Stepbrother? No Otherways related to Raj? NO! Does his age matter (is relevant) to the puzzle? Mohinder's? Not at all. Some laws about the first born in a family? No, but this has shades of OTRT I am unsure if these have been asked: They have not and should be. Well done! True story? Yes Country relevant? YES! Period relevant? Not terribly but it happened within the last 5 years. Redwine Did Jai make a will? Irrelevant. Did someone else make a relevant will? All wills are irrelevant. Jai had an anniversary on Tuesday, correct? Yes Was it wedding anniversary? No Family anniversary? No Any professional anniversary? Yes! Were Raj and Mohinder "competitors" for inheritance after Jai? No Did law of inheritance change on Tuesday? No Did Raj want Jai to die ON MONDAY? YES and, as previously discovered, he made sure Jai did by having him killed. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3899 Registered: 9-2010 |
Are these their real names? are Raj, Jai, and Mohinder from India? Pakistan? (LTPF list of other countries ending in -stan)? (lol, sorry, I can't spell them...) somewhere else in Asia? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3900 Registered: 9-2010 |
oh, well, I can spell Afghanistan, but the other ones, no...so are they from there? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1564 Registered: 9-2009 |
Dr. Suresh relevant? Is India the country we are looking for? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1487 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin Are these their real names? Not that I know of. are Raj, Jai, and Mohinder from India? YES! *other place Qs deleted* Rbruma Dr. Suresh relevant? Only that he's cute and Heroes started so well and then made a nosedive. Is India the country we are looking for? yes | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 881 Registered: 1-2011 |
Would Jai retire from his work on Tuesday? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1511 Registered: 8-2001 |
Would Jai retire from his work on Tuesday? YES! Great Q. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 887 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was Jai's workplace obliged to pay any money if its worker died? Is Mohinder the owner of the workplace? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1512 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was Jai's workplace obliged to pay any money if its worker died? No Is Mohinder the owner of the workplace? No | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 812 Registered: 6-2003 |
So for Raj it was relevant that Jai dies while still holding a particular job? Would it help to find out what Jai's job was? Did Jai die in his workplace? Relevant? Did Raj, as son of the deceased, get access to Jai's workplace? which he otherwise would not have got? Did he get access to information? Did he take over Jai's job? Did Jai make a promise for the case that he would die "in office"? Is Raj's benefit mainly: financial? health/physical? status? Relevant that Jai and Raj are male? Is Raj a spy? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1515 Registered: 8-2001 |
So for Raj it was relevant that Jai dies while still holding a particular job? Yes Would it help to find out what Jai's job was? Irrelevant Did Jai die in his workplace? Relevant? He did NOT. Did Raj, as son of the deceased, get access to Jai's workplace? Yes! which he otherwise would not have got? yes Did he get access to information? No Did he take over Jai's job? Yes Did Jai make a promise for the case that he would die "in office"? No Is Raj's benefit mainly: financial? Yes health/physical? No status? No Relevant that Jai and Raj are male? Not really Is Raj a spy? No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 894 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was Raj unemployed before? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 815 Registered: 6-2003 |
Was there a rule (law? company rule? family rule?) that the job would pass to the heir if someone dies before retiring? Did Jai work in a private business? in a government or public institution? did he run his own business? Would Raj have had no chance to get Jai's job once the job was free after Jai's retiring? if so: any (anti-)discriminatory policy relevant? did Raj belong to the wrong caste? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1520 Registered: 8-2001 |
Redwine Was Raj unemployed before? Irrelevant Sundowner Was there a rule Yes (law? company rule? family rule? More no to these) that the job would pass to the heir if someone dies before retiring? YES!! Did Jai work in a private business? No in a government or public institution? Yes, government. did he run his own business? No Would Raj have had no chance to get Jai's job once the job was free after Jai's retiring? Yes! if so: any (anti-)discriminatory policy relevant? did Raj belong to the wrong caste? Irrelevant I think we have enough for a ****** SPOILER ****** Blood Is Thicker: In Bihar state, India, a man was charged with having his father killed a day before retirement so that the son might "inherit" his government job via the traditional family-hardship policy. (If Dad had retired, the regular hiring process would have been used to find a replacement.) [Reuters, 6-3-08] | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1049 Registered: 2-2011 |
good grief! |
