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As it appeared on the screen, it looked like an incredible success. But then... how could the journalists have known?
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Screen - a movie screen? TV screen?
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Screen - a movie screen? TV screen? No to both. However, it might work with a TV screen.
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a computer screen? a powerpoint presentation?

journalists - was this a press conference?
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a computer screen? Yes. a powerpoint presentation? No.

journalists - was this a press conference? No, although there surely were press conferences about all the relevant stuff.
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Was it really a success?
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It appeared (on the screen): as an image? as text?
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was what appeared on the screen an on-line newspaper or report?

was "it" an event? a party? a show? a business venture? a campaign? a revolution? a rescue?

did "it" involve animals? people? money? show business? education? the military?
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Was it really a success? Well, there was a kind of success, but surely nothing of the sort it looked like.

It appeared (on the screen): as an image? as text? This.

was what appeared on the screen an on-line newspaper or report? Yes, part of it.

was "it" an event? Yes for svv of "event" (but what isn't an event then?) a party? a show? a business venture? a campaign? a revolution? a rescue? No to rest.

did "it" involve animals? people? This. money? show business? education? the military? No to rest.
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sport? a competition? dance? fundraiser? race?

averting a disaster?
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sport? a competition? Noish. dance? fundraiser? race? averting a disaster? No to the rest.
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sport? a match?
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Was it a computer program?
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sport? a match? No.

Was it a computer program? No, although what appeared on the screen was the output of a computer program.
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Was it intended to be a revolutionary invention? A famous artwork? A useful tool?
Was it created for money?
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Was it intended to be a revolutionary invention? No. It looked like something which would include the result of any good revolution, and even more.

A famous artwork? A useful tool? It looked like sooooooooo much more....

Was it created for money? In fact, it was.
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Just a shot, ispired by "results of any good revolution": WikiLeaks involved?
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Was it the result of computer programming?

A technological advancement?

Was is something the computer generated on its own?

Are the journalists responsible for "it" or merely witnesses?

Is another group of people responsible for creating it? Are their careers important?
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Just a shot, ispired by "results of any good revolution": WikiLeaks involved? No, it happened before Wikileaks existed.

Was it the result of computer programming? Yope.

A technological advancement? No.

Was is something the computer generated on its own? Yope. The computer simply processed input.

Are the journalists responsible for "it" or merely witnesses? The journalists are responsible for the input.

Is another group of people responsible for creating it? Are their careers important? No.
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was the journalists' input inaccurate? did they believe it to be accurate?
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was the journalists' input inaccurate? No. did they believe it to be accurate? Yes, and they were right.
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Did "it" involve statistical information about people?

Actions people took?

A specific group of people?

A study group performed on people - a medical study?

The effect something had on people?

The effect people had on something else?
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Did "it" involve statistical information about people? b{No.}

Actions people took? Yes - in a sense.

A specific group of people? No. One specific person - in a sense.

A study group performed on people - a medical study? No.

The effect something had on people? Yes - in a sense and (especially) another sense.

The effect people had on something else? Yes - in another sense.
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Is the identity of the one specific person relevant?

HAM/HAF?

Famous person? FOYI?

Were the results that appeared on the screen from the journalists inputing criteria into an internet search?

The "something else," an animal? A piece of technology? The environment?

Is the setting of the initial event relevant?
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Is the identity of the one specific person relevant? Yes.

HAM/HAF? Yes.

Famous person? Yes. FOYI? No, I really, really saw it on the screen.

Were the results that appeared on the screen from the journalists inputing criteria into an internet search? Not into a search, but...

The "something else," an animal? A piece of technology? The environment? No to all.

Is the setting of the initial event relevant? Yes, of course. (Are there puzzles without a relevant setting?)
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Hint: One of the relevant events is a (very special) election.
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US Presidential election?
If so:
2008?
2004?
2000?
Earlier?
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US Presidential election? No, much, much more special. A US Presidential election is a general one, isn't it?
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Oh yeah, of course.

A recall election? The one for the governor of California, when we got rid of Gray Davis and put in the Governator? *cough*
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An election in a country that was new to voting?
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was it a political election at all?
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A voting in a parliament? (thinking about the puzzle title)
Was the screen output the result of the vote?
Was the screen output shown in tv?
Did the journalists guess something correctly what they possibly could not have known?
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the election of a pope?
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A recall election? No. The one for the governor of California, when we got rid of Gray Davis and put in the Governator? No. *cough* *sneeze*

An election in a country that was new to voting? No.

was it a political election at all? Yesish, see below.

A voting in a parliament? No. (thinking about the puzzle title) The title is relevant, but somewhat more laterally.
Was the screen output the result of the vote? Part of it.
Was the screen output shown in tv? Possibly.
Did the journalists guess something correctly what they possibly could not have known? No.

the election of a pope? YES.
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One particular election of a pope relevant? Benedict XIV? John Paul II? John Paul I? Paul VI? before?
Did the screen output suggest that a new pope was elected? a particular person was elected? how particular members of the conclave did vote?
Did the screen output show text? figures? charts? pictures?
Did black smoke appear as white smoke on the screen? due to bad color resolution?
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Should the word "lords" in the title be interpreted as referring to the pope? Cardinals? The journalists? Spiritual leaders in general? Supernatural beings?
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did they see white smoke but it was there for the wrong reason?
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One particular election of a pope relevant? Yes. Benedict XIV? This. John Paul II? John Paul I? Paul VI? before?

Did the screen output suggest that a new pope was elected? Yes, and correctly. a particular person was elected? Yes, and correctly. how particular members of the conclave did vote? No.

Did the screen output show text? This. figures? charts? pictures?

Did black smoke appear as white smoke on the screen? No. due to bad color resolution?

Should the word "lords" in the title be interpreted as referring to the pope? Cardinals? {The pope and the cardinals electing him.} The journalists? No. Spiritual leaders in general? No. Supernatural beings? Yope.

did they see white smoke but it was there for the wrong reason? No.
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Was the report dated before the actual election ended? Was it released before?
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Was the report dated before the actual election ended? Was it released before? No to both. Hint: The news that a pope was elected wasn't the only thing which appeared on the screen.
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Was the screen output something you received as result of a search?
something you read in a web news portal?
or in Wikipedia?
Was the screen output shown on TV?
Did it contain a (factual or logical) mistake? a typo?
Was the incredible success that a German was elected? that a pope was elected in rather short time? that a pope was elected at all?
"We are pope" relevant?
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Was the screen output something you received as result of a search? No.
something you read in a web news portal? Yes.
or in Wikipedia? No.
Was the screen output shown on TV? I don't know. It's quite probable that something similar was to be seen on TV screens.
Did it contain a (factual or logical) mistake? Yope, explore. a typo? No.
Was the incredible success that a German was elected? No. that a pope was elected in rather short time? No. that a pope was elected at all? No. Nothing about the election itself was incredible.
"We are pope" relevant? No.
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The other thing that appeared on the screen: was it also text? also a news item? Did it relate to the Pope's election? To Rome? Would it have been equally surprising (as an incredible success) if the Pope wasn't German? His assumed name relevant? His real name?

Relevant in which language you read the news? Is it a pun involved?
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The other thing that appeared on the screen: was it also text? Yes. also a news item? Yes. Did it relate to the Pope's election? No, but... To Rome? No. Would it have been equally surprising (as an incredible success) if the Pope wasn't German? Yes. His assumed name relevant? No. His real name? No. It appeared on the screen but replacing this name with anoter wouldn't change anything.

Relevant in which language you read the news? Yesish. Is it a pun involved? Yes.
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Was the language English? German? French? Italian? Spanish? Other?
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Was the language English? German? This. French? Italian? Spanish? Other?

It would work in some other languages including English but I think it is much less probable that the direct English equivalent would appear on a screen.
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Any pun involving the word from the puzzle statement "incredible"? I am thinking with my basic German to some "glaubig - glaublich" pairs,or somewhere in their vicinity. Any of these at least OTRT?
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Any pun involving the word from the puzzle statement "incredible"? No. I am thinking with my basic German to some "glaubig - glaublich" "gläubig" - religious, pious; "glaublich" (only used in some negated expressions) - "believable". - pairs,or somewhere in their vicinity. Any of these at least OTRT? No.
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Back to the drawing board then

Were the words from which you devised the pun written on the screen?

Was the other news report something that touched political questions? Entertainment? Some ads?
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Were the words from which you devised the pun written on the screen? Yes, and there wasn't really anything to devise.

Was the other news report something that touched political questions? This, possible slight FA. Entertainment? Some ads?
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Did the other text include the words "Pope" or "success"?

Was the other text referring to something entirely different than the Pope's election? Or it was something that touched the subject, like "The Pope has been elected and the prime minister is very happy about it"?
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Did the other text include the words "Pope" or "success"? No.

Was the other text referring to something entirely different than the Pope's election? Yes, but... Or it was something that touched the subject, like "The Pope has been elected and the prime minister is very happy about it"? So, no.
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Were there two different news items? following each other? one of them about Josef Ratzinger's election? and one about something completely unrelated?
Did they appear immediately after each other on the screen?
If so: was the other news item about: politics? (global? national? regional? local?) economics? sports? finance? weather? culture? religion? crime?
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Does "The Lords Spiritual and Temporal" refer to the UK House of Lords?
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Were there two different news items? Yes. following each other? Yes. one of them about Josef Ratzinger's election? Yes. and one about something completely unrelated? Yes.
Did they appear immediately after each other on the screen? Yes.
If so: was the other news item about: politics? Yes. (global? national? regional? This, with some national implications. local?) economics? sports? finance? weather? culture? religion? crime? No to rest.

Does "The Lords Spiritual and Temporal" refer to the UK House of Lords? As has been found out, "The Lords Spiritual" refers to the pope, the cardinals electing him and yopeishly to supernatural beings.
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The House of Lords is not relevant.
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According to Wikipedia, on the same day when Josef Ratzinger was elected, also the governor of Baden-Württemberg resigned from office. Is this the other relevant news item? (although I do not yet know how to link them to each other)
Is "the Lords Temporal" the Landtag of Baden-Württemberg? the Bundesrat?
Relevant that for more than 30 years all governors of Baden-Württemberg left the office only when they had to step down because of some affair or scandal? (with Stefan Mappus the first one being actually voted out)
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According to Wikipedia, on the same day when Josef Ratzinger was elected, also the governor of Baden-Württemberg resigned from office. Is this the other relevant news item? YES. I'm somewhat in doubt whether "governor" or "prime minister" is the best English description for a Ministerpräsident. (although I do not yet know how to link them to each other)
Is "the Lords Temporal" the Landtag of Baden-Württemberg? the Bundesrat? The Ministerpräsident himself is most important, but you can add the Landtag, and the Bundesrat. The title isn't meant as a really specific description.
Relevant that for more than 30 years all governors of Baden-Württemberg left the office only when they had to step down because of some affair or scandal? (with Stefan Mappus the first one being actually voted out) I don't remember a scandal connected with the resignation in question, but yes, it is quite relevant that he wasn't voted out. The reasons for his predecessors to resign are not relevant. Stefan Mappus being voted out is only relevant insofar as the starter of this puzzle arrived at the polling station 5 minutes before the time of opening to be really sure to have his part in voting him out.
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Ratzinger wird Papst - Teufel tritt zurück
.. this would have made indeed a good story ..

I think for his resignation it was not so much a scandal but that he had lost the support of his party. But anyway, what is relevant about his resignation ..
.. that he resigned the same day when the pope was elected? (and he could not have known this as he had announced the date of his resignation already in beforehand)
.. just the fact that he resigned from office in the middle of his term? (like all his predecessors since Reinhold Maier .. I just checked in Wikipedia)
.. some other circumstances of his resignation?
.. who became his successor?
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Ratzinger wird Papst - Teufel tritt zurück
.. this would have made indeed a good story ..
In fact, it is the story. You solved it.

I think for his resignation it was not so much a scandal but that he had lost the support of his party. But anyway, what is relevant about his resignation ..
.. that he resigned the same day when the pope was elected? Yes. (and he could not have known this as he had announced the date of his resignation already in beforehand) Not relevant.
.. just the fact that he resigned from office in the middle of his term? No. (like all his predecessors since Reinhold Maier .. I just checked in Wikipedia)
.. some other circumstances of his resignation? Only the timing of media coverage.
.. who became his successor? Irrelevant.

=== SPOILER ===

This is the story of Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XIV and Erwin Teufel, former governor/prime minister of Baden-Württemberg, one of the 16 German Länder. Teufel resigned from office the same day Ratzinger was elected pope. This resulted in some websites aggregating news headlines showing something like

* Ratzinger zum Papst gewählt
* Teufel tritt zurück

meaning

* Ratzinger elected pope
* Devil resigns

which would definitely look like an incredible success for a newly elected pope. But - "Teufel" is not only the Lord of Hell but also a fairly common name in the South-West of Germany, and it was the name of the Ministerpräsident of Baden-Württemberg who resigned the same day a new pope was elected.

Erwin Teufel's name was worth a good laugh before and after his resignation, too. There was a newspaper reporting the appointment of a new minister in Teufel's cabinet with "Teufel holt von Trotha" ("the devil takes von Trotha"). And there seems to be an old prophecy about my university, the University of Tübingen - some day they would award a honorary doctorate to Satan himself. Well, guess who got it - Erwin Teufel, former Ministerpräsident...

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