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For a couple weeks, I had a scrund about the pregame ceremonies at UConn football games. I suspect many others who were first-year students this past year had the same scrund for the same amount of time, but I doubt many other students have had it. What is it? (Note: I am not saying "first-year" to be PC. I am saying it to include not just freshmen but first-year transfers, grad students, etc.)
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Are any of the following relevant (if they're not part of the pregame ceremonies, note that, please):

The marching band
Player introductions
Anything said by the PA announcer
Tailgating
The coin toss
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Popular music relevant?
Pop culture?
TV?
Movies?
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Is the title relevant? Are they (modified) lyrics from a song that is part of the pregame ceremonies? Was the scrund about misheard lyrics?
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Are any of the following relevant (if they're not part of the pregame ceremonies, note that, please):

The marching band This
Player introductions No
Anything said by the PA announcer I'm not sure if it's the P.A. announcer or someone from the band, but something said by someone is relevant.
Tailgating No (and this isn't exactly a pregame ceremony component either, rather an activity)
The coin toss No
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Popular music relevant? No, except for extreme svv of "popular"
Pop culture?
TV?
Movies? No to these three

Is the title relevant? Yes Are they (modified) lyrics Yesish or yes, which one DOYD of "modified" from a song that is part of the pregame ceremonies? Yes Was the scrund about misheard lyrics? No
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Any particular song (or set of songs?) performed by the marching band relevant?
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Any particular song (or set of songs?) performed by the marching band relevant? One song. Although it's actually one song within a two-song piece, but that's irrelevant. Assume it's just one song. Although if you've ever been to a UConn football game, that might help you. By the way, using google is permitted for this puzzle, but please do not view the UConn Marching band videos. However, if you wish to know which songs the MB performs, you may view the video of their pregame vs. Buffalo, at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2c0kf8VEgg but please do not view any other pregame shows until this is $poyled. Thanks. As a hint, finding out how I chose that game to share with you will help slightly.
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Alas, I couldn't understand a single thing the announcer was saying in the video. Maybe that was the point of choosing that one?

Was it the song set to the tune of America the Beautiful? to the tune of Battle Hymn of the Republic?
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Alas, I couldn't understand a single thing the announcer was saying in the video. Maybe that was the point of choosing that one? No, lol. It should have worked. But you've discovered all you need to know. see below

Was it the song set to the tune of America the Beautiful? Um... Yes? That's a very awkward way to describe "America The Beautiful" though. to the tune of Battle Hymn of the Republic? No
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Was the song actually "America the Beautiful"?
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Was the song actually "America the Beautiful"? Yes. I just said that.
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*eye roll* No, you didn't actually. That may have been what you meant, but that wasn't actually clear from what you said. Please be patient with us non-mind readers, mkay?

So was the scrund about what song they were playing?
Not recognizing the song?
Something they did while playing?
Something you as the audience did?
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*eye roll* No, you didn't actually. That may have been what you meant, but that wasn't actually clear from what you said. Please be patient with us non-mind readers, mkay? Ok... Sorry about that

So was the scrund about what song they were playing? No
Not recognizing the song? No
Something they did while playing? Yes
Something you as the audience did? No
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Were they standing?
Were they doing some sort of dance movement?
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Were they standing?
Were they doing some sort of dance movement? If so, neither of these are relevant. And actually, the answer to "something they did while playing" should be yesish, I think. It's complicated.
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Were they in any relevant formation?
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Were they in any relevant formation? No. Actually, perhaps the answer should be "yesish for svv of 'did'". I don't know. If you watch the Buffalo video it should be somewhat apparent. Also, at this point I will permit you to watch any marching band video of pregames. As a hint, unless I am missing something (and I have not watched every game) while it is true that nobody before me could have had this scrund, it is not for the reason I anticipated. But I am not certain on that. Once you get a general idea as to what the scrund was about, I will be able to explain why I am not certain. Until then, it would give too much away. If any of you have been to a UConn football game yourself (Balin? CupofSun?) you may be able to clarify when this puzzle is $poyled. But for now, unless you have, stick to videos from this past season or you will confuse yourself. You can access them all easily via the above link, just click on UConnMarchingBand's channel/account.
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Let's see...are any of the following relevant: they play in place for a few bars while still in the UCONN formation? The auxillary units (baton twirlers, etc.) run off the field? The announcer says the lyrics over top of the music? The band forms a trapezoid formation? They all face the same direction (backwards from what the UCONN formation had been? They march to the back of the field? Certain specific instruments play? Certain specific instruments do not play?
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sorry about the wayward parenthesis between direction and backwards. It was meant to be a comma.
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et's see...are any of the following relevant: they play in place for a few bars while still in the UCONN formation? The auxillary units (baton twirlers, etc.) run off the field? The announcer says the lyrics over top of the music? This, no to rest. As a hint, the title to this puzzle is very relevant. The band forms a trapezoid formation? They all face the same direction (backwards from what the UCONN formation had been? They march to the back of the field? Certain specific instruments play? Certain specific instruments do not play?
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Did you think he was saying the words in the title? When in fact he was saying the actual lyrics?
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Did you think he was saying the words in the title? I'm not entirely sure how to answer this. I suppose the answer is yes, but this could mislead. When in fact he was saying the actual lyrics? Once again, yes, but this could mislead. As a hint, figuring out WHEN I had this scrund could help. And it wasn't after the Buffalo game. Why not try googling the title?
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Being a good citizen of the forum, I shall ask...though I pay no attention to football of any stripe.

Noel Devine relevant?
Did you think the lyrics said one thing?
And then realized your error?
Did you think they referenced Noel?
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Noel Devine relevant? no
Did you think the lyrics said one thing? Yope/Yesish
And then realized your error? Well, eventually I realized my error, but you're making a FA here
Did you think they referenced Noel? No
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Clarification: Noel Devine (the running back for West Virginia) is NOT relevant, nor is Noel from LTPF or anyone else named Noel for that matter. I just threw the "Noel" in there as a trap. But the rest of the title IS relevant.
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the rest of the title (minus the Noel) is from the third verse of America the Beautiful. Does the announcer vary what verse he says from one game to another?
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the rest of the title (minus the Noel) is from the third verse of America the Beautiful. Does the announcer vary what verse he says from one game to another? noish (good question!) At this point you may look at any UConn Marching band pregame video from this year to make it easier (You can watch their other videos too but it won't help) the link is somewhere above) You almost have it.
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So you deliberately put something irrelevant in the title but then kept telling us the title was relevant. No wonder it felt like we weren't getting anywhere...

Does the announcer do verse other than the well known 1st or 4th?
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So you deliberately put something irrelevant in the title but then kept telling us the title was relevant. No wonder it felt like we weren't getting anywhere... Well the title is relevant except the word Noel

Does the announcer do verse other than the well known 1st or 4th? He doesn't do the fourth. Are you potentially thinking of the national anthem? But the title (without "Noel") is from the third verse of ATB, which is quite relevant. I'm not really sure how else to answer this question without giving too much away, but no verse other than the first or third is ever done. And you need to look into this more.
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I think I meant 1st and 3rd. I can't remember what the convention is...but I do know that there is one and that songs with muliple stanzas, we often sing only the 1st and 3rd(?). It's been a long time since I've been to a hymn-sing (been a long time since anyone's held one) but anyway...

Um, is it relevant that the end of the third stanza is actually - "And every gain devine"?
(You wrote GRAIN - like wheat)
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Ugh - I meant "divine" not "devine"....sounds like we're pruning the vineyard where those grapes of wrath are. *facepalm*
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Um, is it relevant that the end of the third stanza is actually - "And every gain devine"? no, I'm just stupid and thought that was the lyric until just now. But that isn't the relevant part of the third verse anyway. And typically when ATB is sung, only the first verse is performed. However ... (the part that you figure out
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Is the relevant part of the third verse in:
the first line?
The second?
The third?
Fourth?
Fifth? (I think there are six so I shall leave off here.)

Is the UConn mascot relevant?
Any part of the song taken to refer to the school?
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you're not the only one...several sites have it listed as grain, too. Must be a common mistake.

When they do the third verse, do they ONLY do the third verse? Or does it follow the first verse?

Does the choice to do the third verse have to do with the time of the game? The location? Home vs away? The specific opponent? Whether or not some important achievement rests on the upcoming game (e.g. becoming conference championships)? To celebrate something that happened in the previous game? To commemorate something that happened historically? To acknowledge someone in the audience? Because of having extra time available (for example, because the visiting team didn't bring a band with them)?
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Is the relevant part of the third verse in:
the first line?
The second?
The third?
Fourth?
Fifth? (I think there are six so I shall leave off here.) Blooper alert: The whole third verse is relevant. What I meant to say is "this is not the way in which the third verse is relevant" - in other words, the lyrics themselves are irrelevant, all that is relevant is that it is the third verse and not the first, plus something else which you have not figured out.

Is the UConn mascot relevant?
Any part of the song taken to refer to the school? No to both

When they do the third verse, do they ONLY do the third verse? this, but be careful of FA Or does it follow the first verse?

Does the choice to do the third verse have to do with the time of the game? The location? Home vs away? The specific opponent? Whether or not some important achievement rests on the upcoming game (e.g. becoming conference championships)? To celebrate something that happened in the previous game? To commemorate something that happened historically? To acknowledge someone in the audience? Because of having extra time available (for example, because the visiting team didn't bring a band with them)? All of this is based on an FA, however in a lateral way, the date when the third verse was played instead of the first is relevant. And looking at the lyrics of the third verse might help you determine the day when they played it (particularly when viewed in conjunction with the UConn football schedule from last year at http://www.uconnhuskies.com/sports/m-footbl/archive/conn-m-footbl-sched-2010.html) and by extension, what the scrund was and why I had it.
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rather than a choice to play the third verse, is the choice to NOT play the first verse?

based on the lyrics, i would have expected it played for one of the service academies, but you didn't play any of those. Maybe the game on 11/11 (armistice/veterans day)? but you didn't say yes to "commemorate something that happened historically" so that can't be right.
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rather than a choice to play the third verse, is the choice to NOT play the first verse? Not entirely sure what you mean, but I doubt it's relevant

based on the lyrics, i would have expected it played for one of the service academies, but you didn't play any of those. Maybe the game on 11/11 (armistice/veterans day)? I actually wasn't at that game, so it's possible but irrelevant but you didn't say yes to "commemorate something that happened historically" so that can't be right. Actually, blooper - that should be a yesish or a yope, but not a no. My bad. But it's not Veteran's Day, since I wasn't at that game. But it was Military Appreciation Day, the date of which was likely not coincidental. So look at our schedule again.
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Beg pardon for not knowing this...But is the third verse MUSICALLY different than the first?

Because you've said numerous times that the lyrics to the third verse are not relevant?
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Beg pardon for not knowing this...But is the third verse MUSICALLY different than the first?

Because you've said numerous times that the lyrics to the third verse are not relevant? All of this is irrelevant and OTWT. Go back to the line of thought Noel was on before.
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I'm sorry, dude. I've got no idea.

I'm guessing you are shoving us towards the 11/11/10 game...which was on Veteran's Day.

Other than that...I'm lost. I only see video where they are doing the 1st verse, which I only know IS the first verse because of the announcer doing William-Shatner style beat poetry of the words, but that can't be it because the lyrics aren't relevant and without the words, I still don't understand how one can tell the 1st verse from the 3rd.
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OH wait, you said it WASN'T the 11/11 game...so without being a history scholar, I'm not seeing anything else...
Independence Day is in July,
D Day is in June
V Day is in May

The 10/02 game because Caesar arrived in Alexandria on that date in 48 CE (I assume we're guessing that's what day it was.)

The 09/11 game?(though that sort of makes me wince...though I suppose we should commemorate the military on the anniversary of an event that has lead to thousands of them dying...but it seems a little grim. Perhaps I'm just too tender-hearted.)
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I've never heard of Military Appreciation Day...is it different from both Veterans Day and Memorial Day?

Also, the question you didn't understand was me trying to clear up the FA that we seem to have been having. All of my questions that you said had an FA were about why they chose to play the third verse. So I thought maybe they were avoiding playing the first verse for some reason, and just defaulted to playing the third verse as a backup. In that case, the third verse wouldn't actually be relevant at all, but the first verse would be. Does that make more sense? If so, is it anywhere near what the FA was?
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I'm sorry, dude. I've got no idea.

I'm guessing you are shoving us towards the 11/11/10 game...which was on Veteran's Day.

Other than that...I'm lost. I only see video where they are doing the 1st verse, which I only know IS the first verse because of the announcer doing William-Shatner style beat poetry of the words, but that can't be it because the lyrics aren't relevant and without the words, I still don't understand how one can tell the 1st verse from the 3rd. See below.

OH wait, you said it WASN'T the 11/11 game...so without being a history scholar, I'm not seeing anything else...
Independence Day is in July,
D Day is in June
V Day is in May

The 10/02 game because Caesar arrived in Alexandria on that date in 48 CE (I assume we're guessing that's what day it was.)

The 09/11 game?(though that sort of makes me wince...though I suppose we should commemorate the military on the anniversary of an event that has lead to thousands of them dying...but it seems a little grim. Perhaps I'm just too tender-hearted.) It was in fact 9/11. The fact that it was the anniversary of the terrorist attacks and/or military apprecaition day at Rentschler Field is irrelevant. However, there is something relevant about that date. It might help you to look at the schedule again. You're pretty close now.

I've never heard of Military Appreciation Day...is it different from both Veterans Day and Memorial Day? It's not a holiday - it was a promotional day the university/team decided to have on 9/11.

Also, the question you didn't understand was me trying to clear up the FA that we seem to have been having. All of my questions that you said had an FA were about why they chose to play the third verse. So I thought maybe they were avoiding playing the first verse for some reason, and just defaulted to playing the third verse as a backup. In that case, the third verse wouldn't actually be relevant at all, but the first verse would be. Does that make more sense? If so, is it anywhere near what the FA was? No - you're OTWT. Unfortunately, revealing the exact FA would $poyle the puzzle essentially, but I will say that the only way in which the reason for playing the 3rd verse was relevant is to determine the game when it happened. You have now done that, so don't worry about it any more. And like I said, the fact that it was on the ninth anniversary of the terrorist attacks is irrelevant, but there is something relevant about that game which you should easily be able to determine by looking at the schedule again.
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Oh, and to answer your other question: In the video I originally showed you, they did the first verse. However, if you watch the pregame for 9/11 (which I will now provide you the link for at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRggRucsj18 since you have determined the date) you will notice them doing the third verse. The video won't help much at this point, however.
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The relevant thing about the 9/11 game: UConn played Texas Southern? It was a non-conference game? It was the first home game of the season? It followed a loss?
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The relevant thing about the 9/11 game: UConn played Texas Southern? It was a non-conference game? It was the first home game of the season? this - if you keep this in mind while rereading the puzzle statement, it should be easy now. It followed a loss?
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so why did "Home vs. Away" not get a yes or at least a yope above??

So they played the third verse during the first home game. Because of this, did you (and other newbies) think that they would always play the third verse instead of the first verse?
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so why did "Home vs. Away" not get a yes or at least a yope above?? Because the fact that it was the first home game had nothing to do with the choice to play the third verse. But it does have to do with the scrund... See below

So they played the third verse during the first home game. Because of this, did you (and other newbies) think that they would always play the third verse instead of the first verse? Bingo!

****SPOILER****

At the first UConn home football game this year, vs. Texas Southern on September 11th, which was also Military Appreciation Day at Rentschler, when they played America the Beautiful they had the voiceover to the third verse, not the first, likely because it began "Oh beautiful for heroes proved in liberating strife / who more than self their country loved and mercy more than life". So, naturally, many students who had never attended a UConn football game before, including me, assumed they would always play that verse. When we played Buffalo at home two weeks later (after a road game at Temple) we learned differently. I don't know if this was the first time they did it that way or if they have played the third verse often before - and I wasn't at the game on Veteran's Day since I had to take an online exam and wouldn't be able to finish it before the buses departed for the game forcing me to watch on TV. So they may have done it then, I don't know. Good job to everyone, especially Vesica and Noel. Stay tuned for my new puzzle.
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*head hurts* So how were the lyrics irrelevant if your scrund had to do with not realizing that the usual "routine" had been changed, likely because of the Military Appreciation day and the LYRICS of the third verse addressing "heroes"??

Maybe this would have been easier if I knew anything about college football culture, but I went to a school that had NO sports teams beyond informal ones. Not that I minded since I actually quit band when I hit high school because I refused to be forced to attend football games all the time. ;)
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Vesica -- lol, I stayed in band in high school primarily because it meant I got to go to all the football games.
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*GRINS* Too funny. Same decision point - opposite decisions. What did/do you play?

I was a flautist. (And snobby about using that word rather than just saying "I toot a flute".)
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Trumpet, then switched to mellophone (for marching season) and french horn
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Yeah, I suppose they were kinda relevant then. But that's stretching the concept of relevance a bit. And when I saw your post about you being a flautist I read it too fast and thought it said you were a flatulist. Look that one up. I must have a pretty messed-up mind to read "flautist" as "flatulist". Haha.
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*snerk* I think that one was 100% your Fruedian Slip and 0% what I actually typed. :P
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*resnerk* silly vesica kitteh means Freudian, yes? =D (not that I actually care about Freud, one way or the other =D)

Kaylee kitteh, a poor substitute for woubit of woubits inc., pedants to the gentry...*looks around for woubit*
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*shrugs* My most some slip is to mispell Freud's name. Not sure what that one means...
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COMMON, she meant to type.
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Is there such thing as a Freudian typo? Like when I type "Boston Red Sux" by mistake? Which I did in a UConnHuskies.com live chat and almost got blocked for it? Because I believe Freudian slips apply verbally only. But Freud died before computers invented.
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In common usage, Freudian slip is used for verbal errors only, but that was not Freud's intent. He defined them as " an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of some unconscious ("dynamically repressed") wish, conflict, or train of thought", which leaves the door wide open for Freudian typos, text message goofs and IM overshares. At heart, the actual psychoanalytic theory is that those "errors" are actually our Id overriding the censoring of our ego and superego to express a deeper truth. Is there anything to it? I know some of my own were true Freudian Slips - in that what I said or expressed was closer to what I really thought than what I meant to say.

I'll stop now. It's dangerous to get a psych/econ major started on why we do the things we do. I have the theory and can make up nifty equations to prove them (sort of - as much as anything ever gets "proved" in Social Science).

LOVE your example. YES, like that.

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