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Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 618 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 6:52 pm: |      |
She stood as silent as a tomb. The dead had risen in the room. A thousand tears rolled down her face As she gazed at their resting place. Although no one had said his name, She knew her husband was to blame. Please be patience, dear friends, with me. This is my first Versponse, you see. Your questions may rhyme, but if that sounds scary, I do not find it necessary. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16257 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 6:57 pm: |      |
Is she an H/A/F? And is Her husband H/A/M? The dead Are H/A/Mixed? As for this biz, Does all this happen in her head? Are all the "theys" and "thems" the same? The same for "hims," "shes," "hises," "hers"? Do many people know his name, About this thing that now occurs? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 5258 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 7:01 pm: |      |
"She" a real person? Or from your mind? Or perhaps in someone else's work would we find? Tears? Of grief? sorrow? guilt? joy? They? what degree of enumeration might I employ? Less than ten? More? Perhaps a score? As many as fifty? Would that be nifty? Or more like a hundred? Do they go uncounted? The dead had risen, do you say? Are we dealing with zombies or vampires, 'kay? Perhaps the Dead from the Stone of Erech are? (In Tolkien's Middle-Earth where my mind wanders far) Or Inferi from JK Rowling's pen? Are those the dead with which we contend? (But then, who would marry Voldemort? Obviously, questions I ought to ask more) Was her husband famous? Is she? Would I know their names? Is this death their claim to fame? Were they rulers, conquerors, murderers, or Might all three be used to describe this pair? I'm poring over this puzzle; it's a great rhyme! I hope all my questions can be answered if you've time. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 619 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 7:44 pm: |      |
Balin Is she an H/A/F? And is Her husband H/A/M? The dead Are H/A/Mixed? As for this biz, Does all this happen in her head? Are all the "theys" and "thems" the same? The same for "hims," "shes," "hises," "hers"? Do many people know his name, About this thing that now occurs? "They" indeed are H/A/Mixed. And yes, the pronouns are all fixed. The male pronouns do refer To the man married to "her". They are your average married folks. The situation is not a hoax. In fact, it is very real. But no one famous in this ordeal. Kaylee "She" a real person? Or from your mind? Or perhaps in someone else's work would we find? Tears? Of grief? sorrow? guilt? joy? They? what degree of enumeration might I employ? Less than ten? More? Perhaps a score? As many as fifty? Would that be nifty? Or more like a hundred? Do they go uncounted? This story is from my imagination, But it could be a true narration. In joy and sorrow, she cried for TWO of "them" (but there could have been more and their genders could be female or male without much effect on the rest of the tale). The dead had risen, do you say? Are we dealing with zombies or vampires, 'kay? Perhaps the Dead from the Stone of Erech are? (In Tolkien's Middle-Earth where my mind wanders far) Or Inferi from JK Rowling's pen? Are those the dead with which we contend? (But then, who would marry Voldemort? Obviously, questions I ought to ask more) No vampire or ghost or floating head, No zombie or Inferius or any undead, No shadow moving on the wall, Nothing of this sort at all. Nothing from literature has been reclaimed, not even He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. Was her husband famous? Is she? Would I know their names? Is this death their claim to fame? Were they rulers, conquerors, murderers, or Might all three be used to describe this pair? I'm poring over this puzzle; it's a great rhyme! I hope all my questions can be answered if you've time. No one in this puzzle is a subject of fame, So if you wish, you may give them a name. And though lateral puzzles may get gory, There are no murderers in this story. They're not leaders, nor any such professions. I'm very pleased with each of your questions! |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 5259 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 7:57 pm: |      |
May we then call "him" Matt? and call "her" Jen? (It's been questioned how often I say "Matt" but then As has been noted, so told to Balin, He was my first LTPF pal, whose name tends to fall in To naming H/whatever/Ms, I tend to find I guess I'm hoping Balin doesn't mind) Anyway, so, they're FYOI I guess it doesn't matter whether the vic's girl or guy But there's two she cried for, in joy and in sorrow so one to each? - or did on the wrong track I go? If the genders don't matter, let's call one of them "Joy" And the other, for kicks, we could make a boy hmm, how about "David", that's a good name What do you think? sorrow might be his game? So in-story, were these dead ever live? The dead, they are human...are they then "Grateful" to be alive? (No, that's a bad pun, and a silly question, so if it's OTWT, forget I did mention.) If their profession's at all relevant, May I invoke LTPF's list, ere my questions are spent: for Matt and for Jen, the first two, remember, and for Joy and for David, the dead that were wept for. I must say I am glad the dead are not kittehs But please tell me (if you can) they did not die of cheezburger, please? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 620 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 8:54 pm: |      |
May we then call "him" Matt? and call "her" Jen? (It's been questioned how often I say "Matt" but then As has been noted, so told to Balin, He was my first LTPF pal, whose name tends to fall in To naming H/whatever/Ms, I tend to find I guess I'm hoping Balin doesn't mind) Anyway, so, they're FYOI I guess it doesn't matter whether the vic's girl or guy But there's two she cried for, in joy and in sorrow so one to each? - or did on the wrong track I go? If the genders don't matter, let's call one of them "Joy" And the other, for kicks, we could make a boy hmm, how about "David", that's a good name What do you think? sorrow might be his game? So in-story, were these dead ever live? The dead, they are human...are they then "Grateful" to be alive? (No, that's a bad pun, and a silly question, so if it's OTWT, forget I did mention.) If their profession's at all relevant, May I invoke LTPF's list, ere my questions are spent: for Matt and for Jen, the first two, remember, and for Joy and for David, the dead that were wept for. I must say I am glad the dead are not kittehs But please tell me (if you can) they did not die of cheezburger, please? Matt is the husband, Jen the wife Irrelevant their walk of life. Joy and David are the deceased. They are human (or were, at least, But they're dead now, so no crazy notions). By "joy and sorrow", I meant "mixed emotions". "Grateful to be alive?" I thought. "They can't be- because they're not." Although I like your silly pun- The Grateful Dead- you're lots of fun! Also, I must clarify- The dead (in this case) are a girl and a guy. Had there been others that had died, too, I'd have left their genders up to you. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 621 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Also, the dead were alive at one time, Although not in the course of this rhyme. Unfortunately, for the living and dead, There are no cheeseburgers in this thread. However, dear Kaylee, though this might not have been it, I'm considering a puzzle with a cheeseburger in it. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16259 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:06 pm: |      |
Did Matt or Jen know David? Joy? Were they good friends with smiles coy? Is cause of death a key to know? And [LTPF list] if so? Was death by hand of Matt or Jen? And for their deaths, must we know when? Had they, well, accidentally died? Or was it murder? Suicide? Or execution for a crime That greatly shortened life and time? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 5260 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:13 pm: |      |
But you said the dead had "risen"...so let me see, was "risen" = "regained life" OTWT? Had instead their numbers risen? or if that's not so A HINT perhaps as to the direction I should go? So Matt is the killer, and Jen his wife mourned For Joy and David (and perhaps others interred?) She grieved but felt joyful all the same For both of these deaths (and the other no-names?) Was she sad because she knew them? Had they been friends? Was she sad 'cos she knew how they met their ends? Or did she just know that Matt was responsible? Did he actually kill them in manner reprehensible? Or order their deaths? Send them off to war? Could their deaths be laid at his feet if he wasn't there? Were Matt and Jen personal friends of these two, see? Did they know any of the nameless ones personally? Were Joy and David aware they would die? Did they consider it a possibility? Did they perhaps fly And crash in a place they did not expect to land? A tower? a field? where government stands? I guess what I'm asking is terrorism involved, or more? Were they victims (in your mind) of 9/11 or war? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 622 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:23 pm: |      |
Did Matt or Jen know David? Joy? Were they good friends with smiles coy? Is cause of death a key to know? And [LTPF list] if so? Was death by hand of Matt or Jen? And for their deaths, must we know when? Had they, well, accidentally died? Or was it murder? Suicide? Or execution for a crime That greatly shortened life and time? David, Joy, Matt, and Jen, Knew each other well and then David and Joy (before my narration) died of accidental smoke inhalation. It might have been a hundred years ago, Or yesterday, as far as I know. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 623 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:45 pm: |      |
But you said the dead had "risen"...so let me see, was "risen" = "regained life" OTWT? Had instead their numbers risen? or if that's not so A HINT perhaps as to the direction I should go? Pardon me, Kaylee, as I made my reply, I seemed to have let your questions slip by! "Risen" refers to their conditions, But it has many definitions! Sadly, they are still deceased, And their numbers have not increased. This concept is worth exploring, But I'll HINT later, if it gets boring. So Matt is the killer, and Jen his wife mourned For Joy and David (and perhaps others interred?) She grieved but felt joyful all the same For both of these deaths (and the other no-names?) Was she sad because she knew them? Had they been friends? Was she sad 'cos she knew how they met their ends? Or did she just know that Matt was responsible? Did he actually kill them in manner reprehensible? Or order their deaths? Send them off to war? Could their deaths be laid at his feet if he wasn't there? An FA, Kaylee, seems to prevail- There are no killers in my tale. Nor was Matt responsible for the deaths, He had not been there when they drew their last breaths. It's possible- and probable- that Matt grieved too. Jen is sad for the loss of the ones she once knew. Friends- not exactly, but some might say so, And yes, their deaths were a sad way to go. Were Matt and Jen personal friends of these two, see? Did they know any of the nameless ones personally? They knew Joy and David well. There are no nameless ones to tell. There could have been but there was not. Please do not dwell on this thought. Were Joy and David aware they would die? Did they consider it a possibility? Did they perhaps fly And crash in a place they did not expect to land? A tower? a field? where government stands? I guess what I'm asking is terrorism involved, or more? Were they victims (in your mind) of 9/11 or war? I can't imagine that they would know Of exactly how they would go. No terrorism, no planes, no war, Just an accident- nothing more. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 5262 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 9:50 pm: |      |
So Matt was "to blame", but was "not responsible"... I'm afraid you've confused me a lot with that in this puzzle!! Smoke inhalation you said was the cause I see; was there a fire in their home? or one of nearby kittehs? Or were they not at home when they died? Was there a fire that caused the smoke on their insides? If it's a yes, and fire's how they died; Was the fire from gas, or electrical wiring fried? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 668 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 1:21 am: |      |
Were they (D & J) in a train or a car, And from home they were gone afar? 100 years ago their death might have been? Does it really matter when? Do my questions, large or small, Matter in this puzzle at all? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1361 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 9:48 am: |      |
Could Matt - if careful there was he Then have prevented this catastrophe? Could have been avoided this tragedy unspoken If something was fixed, what first was broken? And - if I gained at least one "yes" Was Matt to fix it and failed the test? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 624 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 4:53 pm: |      |
Kaylee So Matt was "to blame", but was "not responsible"... I'm afraid you've confused me a lot with that in this puzzle!! Matt was to blame and responsible, too, But for their deaths? No, that's untrue. Smoke inhalation you said was the cause I see; was there a fire in their home? or one of nearby kittehs? The fire was in their home, Kaylee dear, Out in the country with no one near. Or were they not at home when they died? Was there a fire that caused the smoke on their insides? They were at home, I'm sad to say, Or they'd have lived another day. If it's a yes, and fire's how they died; Was the fire from gas, or electrical wiring fried? As for the home of the dearly departed, It matters not how the fire started. Technical or environmental- The cause was simply accidental. Solitiare Were they (D & J) in a train or a car, And from home they were gone afar? How I wish they'd traveled about! But they were at home when the fire broke out. 100 years ago their death might have been? Does it really matter when? Their death could have happened since the discovery of fire- But an answer like that is not what you desire! The story has other details, I know, That could not have been many centuries ago. Do my questions, large or small, Matter in this puzzle at all? Even the tiniest detail Adds a little to the tale. Redwine Could Matt - if careful there was he Then have prevented this catastrophe? Could have been avoided this tragedy unspoken If something was fixed, what first was broken? And - if I gained at least one "yes" Was Matt to fix it and failed the test? There was no way he could have known Exactly how their deaths to postpone. If there had been, he would have tried to fix it long before they died. He was not careless with these two Nor purposely had their deaths in view. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16270 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 6:07 pm: |      |
Was Matt to blame for the ultimate cause That ended up putting their lives past "pause"? (In other words -- now don't be a liar -- Was Matt to blame at all for the fire?) |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 629 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 6:29 pm: |      |
Was Matt to blame for the ultimate cause That ended up putting their lives past "pause"? (In other words -- now don't be a liar -- Was Matt to blame at all for the fire?) Balin, my friend, I haven't lied. Matt is not to blame for the ones that died. Nor is he guilty for the fire That caused the others to expire. It is also true, by that same token, That Jen was right, and I haven't misspoken. For something else, he is to blame And for that, he hasn't any shame. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16275 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 7:48 pm: |      |
Is Matt to blame for all the grieving Of Joy and David, friends bereaving? The blame: for something long before The fire which burned them to the floor? Or was it something not much ere The flame and smoke were in the air? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 630 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 1:26 am: |      |
Is Matt to blame for all the grieving Of Joy and David, friends bereaving? The blame: for something long before The fire which burned them to the floor? Or was it something not much ere The flame and smoke were in the air? I think you have a false belief- What Matt did caused no one grief. The time he did this thing untold was sometime after the ashes were cold. |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1379 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:11 am: |      |
Was Matt to blame, speaking face to face, For her presence in the place? Or maybe he somehow changed the scene What surprised our grieving Heroine? |
Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu
Post Number: 74 Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 3:59 pm: |      |
Perhaps Jen was a grieving mother, who lost her child, then another? Is she standing near their grave, or is she inside? In a cave? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 642 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 4:01 pm: |      |
Was Matt to blame, speaking face to face, For her presence in the place? This is true, but I will tell He's to blame for something else as well... Or maybe he somehow changed the scene What surprised our grieving Heroine? ...This! Dear Redwine, you have found what all your peers have guessed around! |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16303 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 6:19 pm: |      |
Did Matt decay inside the tomb, In that way changing up the room? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 645 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 7:23 pm: |      |
Did Matt decay inside the tomb, In that way changing up the room? Are you asking if Matt is dead? If so, he's alive instead. Interesting idea, but unfortunately, It is completely OTWT. |
Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu
Post Number: 79 Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 7:38 pm: |      |
Ciaobella, be aware You skipped my questions, it's not fair! :-) |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 647 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 8:05 pm: |      |
Ciaobella, be aware You skipped my questions, it's not fair! :-) I didn't mean to leave you out. I'll be more careful, have no doubt. Perhaps Jen was a grieving mother, who lost her child, then another? This is very close to true- Guess again, and I'll give a clue. Is she standing near their grave, or is she inside? In a cave? She is inside, though not in a cave, Not in a tomb or near a grave. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 648 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 8:07 pm: |      |
I'm beginning to talk like Dr.Seuss. My husband is calling me "Mother Goose". |
Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu
Post Number: 81 Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 8:51 pm: |      |
Is she at church? In her own home? Is Matt present or is Jen alone? Poor Joy and David - were they maybe Jen's parents? As neither is a baby. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 649 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:00 pm: |      |
Is she at church? In her own home? Is Matt present or is Jen alone? Poor Joy and David - were they maybe Jen's parents? As neither is a baby. She is at home as the puzzle takes place, And they were her parents; yes, this is the case. |
Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu
Post Number: 87 Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:11 pm: |      |
The urns! In which they placed their ash Fell on the floor with a crash? And who else to blame than poor Matt As he hit them with his baseball bat? :-) |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 650 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:19 pm: |      |
The urns! In which they placed their ash Fell on the floor with a crash? And who else to blame than poor Matt As he hit them with his baseball bat? :-) It would not do to hit the dead; hit them while they're alive instead!:-) No, it wasn't an urn that startled our Jen. But think a bit and tell me then. Not the physical remains of her father and mother, But Jen did see them, one way or another. It's so much fun to see all kinds of clever and creative minds! |
Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu
Post Number: 88 Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 11:30 pm: |      |
As you mentioned, she cried some tears while feeling joy as it appears? Did she perhaps see their picture that Matt placed there trying to please her? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 653 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 12:08 am: |      |
As you mentioned, she cried some tears while feeling joy as it appears? Did she perhaps see their picture that Matt placed there trying to please her? I have enjoyed watching you toil, But Amu has guessed enough to spoil... **********SPOILER********** My husband is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to matters of multimedia. He was explaining to me a program he bought. I asked about its use; he gave it some thought And presented a hypothetical situation That has inspired the following narration: David and Joy lived out of town and sadly were killed when their house burned down. They were survived by their only kin- Their son-in-law, Matt, and daughter, Jen. She said, "This pain might be easier to weather if I just had a picture of the four of us together." She had some pictures of her and Matt, And some of her parents, but that was that. So Matt called a buddy (let's call him "Sam") who knew how to use this computer program. He said, "Matt, my friend, by the time I am done the two photographs will be combined into one." When the picture was framed and complete, Matt picked it up in a manner discreet. He took it home and hung it tall in a prominent place up on the wall. When his wife came home, she closed her eyes as Matt led her in to see the surprise. Matt hoped to bring closure to Jen. He said to open her eyes, and then She stood as silent as a tomb. The dead had risen (on a wall) in the room. A thousand tears rolled down her face As she gazed at their resting place. Although no one had said his name, She knew her husband was to blame. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 654 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 12:26 am: |      |
There are some points I must explain, so as not to cause the readers pain. When Kaylee asked if there were others, I considered sisters and brothers. There could have been many, if that were the case, and the story could still have taken place. I must also offer an apology to those who will point out that technology that allows one to create pictures so was not available a century ago. But my husband says that they would choose another method they could use to reproduce an image known- by painting it onto canvas or stone. The title, too, was relevant. It referred to a line by Haley Joel Osment- "I see dead people" a line of fame in a film; "The Sixth Sense" was the name. To all of you that have been reading, I hope I have not been misleading. Thanks to every clever friend that stuck with this 'til the end. |
Amu (Amu)
New member Username: Amu
Post Number: 92 Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2012 - 9:40 am: |      |
I think you made an excellent rhyme, hope the next comes in a short time. :-) |
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