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Aurora brought 20 bagels to her workplace & set them out as a snack, even though she didn't especially like bagels & had no idea whether her co-workers did. How come?
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Aurora: H/A/F?
Does it matter what kind of bagels they were?
Does Aurora's profession matter?
If so:
Artistic / musical / writer?
Banking / financial / real estate?
Clerical / Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware?
Construction / Craftsman?
Criminal / Questionable Repute?
Education / Academic Research?
Entertainment / Media?
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature?
Executive / Management?
Hospitality / Travel?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing / Distributions?
Medical / Health Services?
Politics / Government / Military?
Sales / Marketing?
Technical / Science / Engineering?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation?
Food Service?
Other?
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Aurora: H/A/F? yes to all
Does it matter what kind of bagels they were? yesish
Does Aurora's profession matter?all these categories are possible
If so:
Artistic / musical / writer?
Banking / financial / real estate?
Clerical / Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware?
Construction / Craftsman?
Criminal / Questionable Repute?
Education / Academic Research?
Entertainment / Media?
Environmental / Outdoors / Nature?
Executive / Management?
Hospitality / Travel?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing / Distributions?
Medical / Health Services?
Politics / Government / Military?
Sales / Marketing?
Technical / Science / Engineering?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation?
Food Service?
Other?
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Does it matter that they were bagels, rather than, say, donuts?
Were they plain bagels?
Poppy seed?
Sesame seed?
blueberry?
salt?
onion?
garlic?
egg?
cinnamon?
raisin?
chocolate chip?
cheese?
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Does it matter that they were bagels, rather than, say, donuts Donuts would work, but not all snacks would
Were they plain bagels?
Poppy seed?
Sesame seed?
blueberry?
salt?
onion?
garlic?
egg?
cinnamon?
raisin?
chocolate chip?
cheese?Some kinds of cheese bagels would not be okay, but all the other kinds you listed would be fine
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Were they all the SAME flavor? or different flavors? Was she testing people's preferences for flavors?
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*likes asiago cheese bagels myself* And the asiago cheese pretzels from Barnes & Noble's cafe...*misses working there*
Would asiago cheese bagels work?

Does it matter if the bagels are eaten plain? Or are spreads provided to put on them?
Butter?
Cream cheese? (And lox?)
Jelly/jam of some kind?
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oh, and would pretzels work as well as bagels or donuts?
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Is it relevant that bagels and donuts are O-shaped? If so, would any O-shaped snack work? Spaghetti-oh's? Would it need to be O-Shaped to work? If she were to cut Rice Krispie Treats into O-shapes, would they work? What if they naturally came in O-Shapes? What if she put Cheerio's out? What if she took all the O's out of a box of Alpha-Bits and put them out?
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Is the fact that there were 20 bagels relevant? Are there 20 employees? 10? more than 20? Am I OTWT?
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Were they all the SAME flavor? irrelor different flavors? dittoWas she testing people's preferences for flavors? no
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*likes asiago cheese bagels myself* And the asiago cheese pretzels from Barnes & Noble's cafe...*misses working there*
Would asiago cheese bagels work? I don't think so but am not sure (see below). The bagels have to be o-shaped, and with some cheese-topped bagels, the topping obscured the shape

Does it matter if the bagels are eaten plain? no Or are spreads provided to put on them? irrel
Butter?
Cream cheese? (And lox?)
Jelly/jam of some kind?
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oh, and would pretzels work as well as bagels or donuts? only if o-shaped (see below)
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Is it relevant that bagels and donuts are O-shaped? yes If so, would any O-shaped snack work? yes Spaghetti-oh's? yes, but that would be an odd thing to set out as a snack at a workplace! Would it need to be O-Shaped to work? yes If she were to cut Rice Krispie Treats into O-shapes, would they work? yes What if they naturally came in O-Shapes? yes What if she put Cheerio's out? yesWhat if she took all the O's out of a box of Alpha-Bits and put them out? yes
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Is the fact that there were 20 bagels relevant? Are there 20 employees? 10? more than 20? Am I OTWT? There are supposed to be plenty of bagels relative to employees, so there would probably be 10-15 employees
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Do they have to insert something through the hole? to pick the bagels up? Is this a creative (lateral?) thinking exercise?
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Do they have to insert something through the hole? to pick the bagels up? Is this a creative (lateral?) thinking exercise?
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Did she actually want her co-workers to eat the bagels?
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did she suspend them on strings so that people could eat them? that's what we do with doughnuts at Halloween
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Do they have to insert something through the hole? noto pick the bagels up? noIs this a creative (lateral?) thinking exercise? no
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Did she actually want her co-workers to eat the bagels?
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did she suspend them on strings so that people could eat them? irrel that's what we do with doughnuts at Halloween nice idea!
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Repeating Dorianna's question: Does she actually want her co-workers to eat the bagels?


ooh... is it relevant that Aurora doesn't like bagels? If she did like them, would this still work? What if she knew for a fact that her co-workers did like bagels? That they didn't? That they were allergic to bagels and would die if they ate them?
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is it relevant that the bagels are shaped like the letter o for symbolic reasons? Is it relevant that they have holes in them? Could square bagels with holes in them have worked? figure-of-eight shaped bagels? cakes with the letter o written on them?

Did she want each co-worker to take a bagel? To do something with the bagel? Would it work if there were exactly as many bagels as co-workers?
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Was this a one time only thing? Did it happen on a special day? Charity relevant? Raising awareness for something?
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does she put the bagels in a special place or in a special way? like looping them over something?
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Repeating Dorianna's question: Does she actually want her co-workers to eat the bagels? She doesn't care


ooh... is it relevant that Aurora doesn't like bagels? no If she did like them, would this still work? yes What if she knew for a fact that her co-workers did like bagels? irrel That they didn't? Well, if she thought they hated them, she would have brought something else that was o-shaped That they were allergic to bagels and would die if they ate them?see previous answer
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is it relevant that the bagels are shaped like the letter o for symbolic reasons? yes Is it relevant that they have holes in them? see precious answer Could square bagels with holes in them have worked? no figure-of-eight shaped bagels? no cakes with the letter o written on them? not as well

Did she want each co-worker to take a bagel? she hads no preference along these lines To do something with the bagel? ditto Would it work if there were exactly as many bagels as co-workers? yes
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Was this a one time only thing? noish Did it happen on a special day? yes Charity relevant? no Raising awareness for something? yope
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does she put the bagels in a special place or in a special way? no like looping them over something/ no
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is it her birthday?
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is it her birthday? no
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Is it relevant that she's a woman?
Equal Pay Day relevant (although I have no idea how o-shaped food relates to wage differences between men and women...)? International Women's Day? Breast cancer awareness?
Is the special day one of those "civil awareneness days"? a religious holidays? an anniversary?

Did anyone else bring food that day? Maybe also letter-shaped? Did they bring the whole alphabet?
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Is Valentine's Day relevant?
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Is it relevant that she's a woman? no
Equal Pay Day relevant (although I have no idea how o-shaped food relates to wage differences between men and women...)? no International Women's Day? no Breast cancer awareness? no
Is the special day one of those "civil awareneness days"? noisha religious holidays? no an anniversary? no

Did anyone else bring food that day? irrel Maybe also letter-shaped? noDid they bring the whole alphabet? no
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Would other o-shaped items work?

Does the special day occur once a year? More often? less often? on a regular basis? on the same date each year?

Tax Freedom Day relevant?

Would this work if Aurora was a school teacher and brought the bagels to class?

Is anything about her co-workers relevant?
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Would other o-shaped items work? yes

Does the special day occur once a year? see next answer More often? no less often? yeson a regular basis? noishon the same date each year? no

Tax Freedom Day relevant? never even heard of it

Would this work if Aurora was a school teacher and brought the bagels to class? certainly not in a pub;ic school; in a private school, maybe

Is anything about her co-workers relevant? yes
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Solar/lunar eclipses relevant? other astronomical phenomena?

Elections relevant? Other political events?

Does it occur roughly every two years? three? four? five? even less often?

The relevant thing about her co-workers, is it their gender? age? nationality? ethnicity? religion? physical appearance? character traits?


Tax Freedom Day, as defined in wikipedia, is "the first day of the year in which a nation as a whole has theoretically earned enough income to fund its annual tax burden".
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Solar/lunar eclipses relevant? no other astronomical phenomena? no

Elections relevant?yes Other political events? yes

Does it occur roughly every two years? three? four? five? even less often?the general sort of event occurs at least yearly, but one for which she brings in bagels is rarer

The relevant thing about her co-workers, is it their gender? noage? nonationality? yesish ethnicity? no religion? nophysical appearance? nocharacter traits? yesish
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by bringing in the bagels is she giving a message? imparting information? saying something about herself? her politics?

is she hoping for a response from her workmates? from some of them? one?

are the bagels chosen because they look like the letter O? like zeros? like the shape of a circle?

are they supposed to symbolise something? do the bagels get laid out in a particular pattern? form a shape of some sort?

is it relevant what the workers will do with the bagels? any other food relevant? do other workers bring relevant things in?

is the presidential election relevant? mayoral elections?

is she trying to find out something about the workers by doing this?

is she trying to affect the way they vote? whether they vote?
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Is she American? Are her co-workers? If not, is she/are they [LTPF list of nationalities]?

Is she campaigning? for a party? for a candidate? for Obama?
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by bringing in the bagels is she giving a message? yes imparting information? yessaying something about herself? yesher politics? yes

is she hoping for a response from her workmates? maybe from some of them? dittoone? no one on particular

are the bagels chosen because they look like the letter O? yeslike zeros? nolike the shape of a circle? see previous answer but one

are they supposed to symbolise something? yes--see above do the bagels get laid out in a particular pattern? no form a shape of some sort? see above

is it relevant what the workers will do with the bagels? no any other food relevant? any o-shaped food would do & donuts taste better (but might not last as long)do other workers bring relevant things in? possibly

is the presidential election relevant? yes mayoral elections? no

is she trying to find out something about the workers by doing this? no

is she trying to affect the way they vote? well, she'd have to be pretty dumb to think this would affect the way they votewhether they vote? ditto
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Is she American? yesAre her co-workers? yesIf not, is she/are they [LTPF list of nationalities]?

Is she campaigning? for a party? yes for a candidate? yes for Obama? yes

******** SPOILER ************
Aurora brought in bagels to work on Election Day 2008 in the US to indicate support for Obama. (Maybe McCain supporters brought in m&m's.) Sorry it was so easy but please check out my new one.

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