| Author | Message | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14000 Registered: 4-2010 |
A woman engages in a helpful daily practice; however, it would cost her less to perform one action that would prove much more helpful. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4049 Registered: 9-2010 |
Woman = H/A/F? Is she real? Fictional? True story? FYOI? FSEI? With the above caveats in mind, would it be helpful (and permissible) for me to invoke the relevant LTPF lists of: Continents? Countries? Centuries? Decades? | ||
| Yatin509 (Yatin509)
New member Username: Yatin509 Post Number: 133 Registered: 6-2011 |
She popular? Celebrity? Publicity relevant? Any other person relevant? Many people come to help when she start some doing some help? e.g she started some donation organisation in which she donated a small amount and got a lot of donation and gave it to someone and this made them think that she only gave the whole donation. Daily practice like everyone do at home? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1461 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hygeine relevant? Teethbrushing? Showering? Eating? Drinking water? Drinking something else? Booze? Does everyone do it everyday? Most people? Is it generally regarded as something people do every day (even if some don't)? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14007 Registered: 4-2010 |
Woman = H/A/F? Yes Is she real? Fictional? This True story? FYOI? FSEI? This With the above caveats in mind, would it be helpful (and permissible) for me to invoke the relevant LTPF lists of: Continents? Countries? Centuries? Decades? USA and 1900s is as far as I'll go. She popular? Noish -- not really relevant Celebrity? Noish, see prev Publicity relevant? No Any other person relevant? Yes, a HAM Many people come to help when she start some doing some help? No, but good thought e.g she started some donation organisation in which she donated a small amount and got a lot of donation and gave it to someone and this made them think that she only gave the whole donation. No, but interesting idea Daily practice like everyone do Noish at home? No Hygeine relevant? Teethbrushing? Showering? Eating? This, No to rest Drinking water? Drinking something else? Booze? Does everyone do it everyday? No Most people? Yope Is it generally regarded as something people do every day (even if some don't)? Yope | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1362 Registered: 2-2011 |
does she fast? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14013 Registered: 4-2010 |
does she fast? No | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1727 Registered: 8-2001 |
Is this a practice that most WOMEN do every day? Men? That a certain kind of person does most every day? You said eating was relevant... Is a particular meal relevant? Food production (like growing it, hunting it..)? Food preparation? Is it relevant where in the pre to 1900s US she is living? Eastern US? Midwest? Western frontier? You mention her daily practice AND another action... To confirm - these are not the same actions, yes? Can we call them DP and OA? Is the OA something many people do? Does the OA cost less in terms of money? In terms of time? In terms of energy used? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1375 Registered: 2-2011 |
does she refrain from eating meat? is it what she eats that matters? where she eats? how she eats? who she eats with? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14019 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this a practice that most WOMEN do every day? Men? That a certain kind of person does most every day? It's something that some people would do every day and others would never do. It's mainly done by adults. (OK, technically only one part of her action applies to the conditions I just mentioned. The other part is something that people typically never do.) You said eating was relevant... Is a particular meal relevant? Yes but not necessarily what you're thinking. Food production (like growing it, hunting it..)? No Food preparation? Yes Is it relevant where in the pre to 1900s US she is living? Yes but I won't say anything... Eastern US? ...other than this. Midwest? Western frontier? You mention her daily practice AND another action... To confirm - these are not the same actions, yes? Correct Can we call them DP and OA? OK Is the OA something many people do? No Does the OA cost less in terms of money? YES In terms of time? Yope In terms of energy used? Yope does she refrain from eating meat? No is it what she eats that matters? where she eats? how she eats? who she eats with? No to all, FA | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1747 Registered: 8-2001 |
Can we call her Julie? Does Julie's "helpful daily practice" help her: Health? Finances? In her career? A relationship? Her education? Enhance her physical appearance? Is her job relevant? Does she have one? Does she live in an urban area? Suburban? Rural? Is her age relevant? The relvant HAM - May we call him Cal? Is Cal related to Julie? Father? Brother? Son? In a relationship with Julie? Husband? Does he know Julie? Do he and Julie live in the same place? Does he do the "DP"? Is his profession relevant? His age? The fact he is male relevant? Could this happen in real life? Could this happen now? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14025 Registered: 4-2010 |
Can we call her Julie? Sure Does Julie's "helpful daily practice" help her: Health? Finances? In her career? A relationship? It involves a relationship, but I don't know if it helps it, per se. No to rest. Her education? Enhance her physical appearance? Is her job relevant? No Does she have one? Irrel Does she live in an urban area? This and relevant Suburban? Rural? Is her age relevant? Not really The relvant HAM - May we call him Cal? Sure Is Cal related to Julie? Father? Brother? Son? In a relationship with Julie? Husband? This Does he know Julie? Do he and Julie live in the same place? NO and relevant Does he do the "DP"? No, but he's involved in it Is his profession relevant? No His age? No The fact he is male relevant? Not really Could this happen in real life? Unlikely Could this happen now? Even less likely | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1378 Registered: 2-2011 |
does Julie prepare food for Cal? and take it to him? do they live apart through choice? is he in jail? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14033 Registered: 4-2010 |
does Julie prepare food for Cal? and take it to him? Yes and yes! do they live apart through choice? NO -- very good q! is he in jail? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1394 Registered: 2-2011 |
are they obliged to live apart because of work? is he ill in hospital? is he some sort of outcast? a hermit? :D | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 364 Registered: 9-2006 |
Does she know that it would cost her less to perform OA, and that this OA would prove much more helpful? Does OA involve a third person? Are Julie and Cal living in different cities? Distance relevant? Is it relevant to find out the specific town/state Julie/Cal live? So Julie prepares food for Cal, but not at her home, right? Is is relevant to know by which mean of transport Julie takes food to Cal? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14038 Registered: 4-2010 |
are they obliged to live apart because of work? No is he ill in hospital? No is he some sort of outcast? Yope a hermit? :D No Does she know that it would cost her less to perform OA, and that this OA would prove much more helpful? I don't know and irrel. IMO, she should know but doesn't -- hence my puzzle. Does OA involve a third person? No Are Julie and Cal living in different cities? No Distance relevant? Noish Is it relevant to find out the specific town/state Julie/Cal live? It would be helpful but I won't allow it now -- it might give away the source. So Julie prepares food for Cal, but not at her home, right? Assume she does prepare the food at home Is is relevant to know by which mean of transport Yes Julie takes food to Cal? Noish | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 365 Registered: 9-2006 |
Does Julie personally take food to Cal? Does Cal have any sort of health issue? Way of transport used in DP: does it involve animals (eg. horse)? Is there any criminal/illegal issue involved in DP or OA? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1404 Registered: 2-2011 |
does she go by car? bicycle? motorbike? van? bus? lorry? does she walk? fly? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14040 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does Julie personally take food to Cal? Yes Does Cal have any sort of health issue? No Way of transport used in DP: does it involve animals (eg. horse)? Irrel Is there any criminal/illegal issue involved in DP or OA? No, not really does she go by car? bicycle? motorbike? van? bus? lorry? does she walk? fly? Irrel! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1406 Registered: 2-2011 |
does she take the food to his place of work? does he eat it? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14041 Registered: 4-2010 |
does she take the food to his place Yes of work? No does he eat it? Yes | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 366 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is Cal in contact with other people? isolated? If Julie didn't take food to Cal, would he starve? Or he could find somewhere to eat? Does Julie takes food to Cal simply because she loves him? or there is another reason for this? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14043 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Cal in contact with other people? isolated? Ironically, both. If Julie didn't take food to Cal, would he starve? Yes Or he could find somewhere to eat? No Does Julie takes food to Cal simply because she loves him? Yes or there is another reason for this? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 368 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is Cal living with a group of people, all of them isolated from society? If so, are these other people getting food from their relatives/spouses? Did Cal and these people get in this place accidentally? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14048 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is Cal living with a group of people, all of them isolated from society? No If so, are these other people getting food from their relatives/spouses? So no Did Cal and these people No get in this place accidentally? Yope HINT: Cal is isolated because he has no regular contact (except for his wife bringing in food). The other people he is in contact with are only for a limited amount of time. And -- big hint -- remember that transportation is relevant. | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 191 Registered: 7-2011 |
Oh, I was SO sure that the answer would be: Julie has a cat, and it would cost her less to put her cat outside rather than buy kitty litter. (JK!) I'm interested in the place. You hinted that it either IS or is NOT in the Eastern USA. Will it help if we guess at the exact locality, rather than guessing at a type of facility? Is Cal an astronaut? a really busy morgue attendant? a scientist? who specializes in helping developing countries to make their own food? Is it important whether Cal and/or Julie live in a place where they have regular mail delivery? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1414 Registered: 2-2011 |
so Cal is not in prison or hospital? and this is not his place of work? (I was hoping he was a lighthouse keeper or firewatcher stuck up a tree all day) are the people he sees only briefly tourists? does he see them up close? interact with them? is he part of an exhibit? is he a professional hermit? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14050 Registered: 4-2010 |
Oh, I was SO sure that the answer would be: Julie has a cat, and it would cost her less to put her cat outside rather than buy kitty litter. (JK!) I'm interested in the place. You hinted that it either IS or is NOT in the Eastern USA. Will it help if we guess at the exact locality, rather than guessing at a type of facility? I'm not sure, but it might give away the answer quickly. I will say that it is in the Eastern US. Is Cal an astronaut? a really busy morgue attendant? a scientist? who specializes in helping developing countries to make their own food? No to all Is it important whether Cal and/or Julie live in a place where they have regular mail delivery? No so Cal is not in prison or hospital? Right and this is not his place of work? Right (I was hoping he was a lighthouse keeper or firewatcher stuck up a tree all day) And that would have been hilarious =) are the people he sees only briefly tourists? Some of them undoubtedly are does he see them up close? Yes interact with them? Some of them, probably is he part of an exhibit? No is he a professional hermit? No | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 371 Registered: 9-2006 |
Transportation is relevant, but not the transportation used by Julie when she takes food to Cal, right? Does Cal have any sort of disability? Apart from Julie, are other people worried about Cal (eg. the people who interact with him)? Do they feel sorry for him? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1423 Registered: 2-2011 |
Julie brings the food to Cal in his home? Once a day? more often? is Julie's job relevant? does she take the food by car? public transport? bicycle? horseback? walking? if she didn't bring him food would he have nothing to eat? would he not be able to cook? shop? does he live in a no-go area? like in quarantine? a secure area? guarded by the military? police? is he in hiding? | ||
| Mimino (Mimino)
New member Username: Mimino Post Number: 68 Registered: 6-2005 |
Would Cal be able to leave this place? (in other words: is he staying there voluntarily?) Did he make a pledge to be in this place? Is he there because of the people he interacts with? Do they benefit from the interaction with Cal? (or does at least Cal think so?) Does Cal benefit from the interaction with this people? Does he earn money this way? Is Cal in this place in order to fulfil a task? Is he searching (or waiting) for somebody in this place? As you said "no" with respect to whether Julie and Cal are living in different cities: Are they living in the same city? Is Cal not living in a city? Is he living in different places? Does he spent a lot of his time in a means of transport? (but does not work as a bus driver or tram driver, as you said it's not his place of work?) Is Cal's place of work relevant, nevertheless? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14055 Registered: 4-2010 |
Transportation is relevant, but not the transportation used by Julie when she takes food to Cal, right? Right Does Cal have any sort of disability? No Apart from Julie, are other people worried about Cal (eg. the people who interact with him)? Do they feel sorry for him? If they know why he's there, yes to both. If not, no to both. Julie brings the food to Cal in his home? No -- where he's staying could hardly be called a home Once a day? This more often? is Julie's job relevant? No does she take the food by car? public transport? bicycle? horseback? walking? Irrel if she didn't bring him food would he have nothing to eat? Yes would he not be able to cook? shop? These are also true does he live in a no-go area? like in quarantine? a secure area? guarded by the military? police? No to all is he in hiding? No Would Cal be able to leave this place? NO -- unless Julie performed the other action! (in other words: is he staying there voluntarily?) He is not -- great q! Did he make a pledge to be in this place? No Is he there because of the people he interacts with? No Do they benefit from the interaction with Cal? No (or does at least Cal think so?) Does Cal benefit from the interaction with this people? No Does he earn money this way? No, because... Is Cal in this place in order to fulfil a task? Noish Is he searching (or waiting) for somebody in this place? No As you said "no" with respect to whether Julie and Cal are living in different cities: Are they living in the same city? BLOOPER: They are in the same city. And it is a city. Is Cal not living in a city? Is he living in different places? No Does he spent a lot of his time in a means of transport? YES (but does not work as a bus driver or tram driver, as you said it's not his place of work?) Correct... Is Cal's place of work relevant, nevertheless? No | ||
| Mimino (Mimino)
New member Username: Mimino Post Number: 69 Registered: 6-2005 |
Was Cal trapped in a means of transport? Was he physically unable to leave this place? legally unable? immigration relevant? Was it a means of transport mainly for passengers? mainly for freight? a car? a lorry? a ship? an aircraft? a balloon? a train? a tram or subway? a bus? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1430 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the more helpful thing she could do to release him? has he promised to stay wherever he is until something happens? until she does something? the place where he is stuck - rail? road? sea? air? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4119 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is Cal stranded in an airport, and not allowed to leave? (I remember a movie like this...) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14061 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was Cal trapped in a means of transport? Yes!! Was he physically unable to leave this place? No legally unable? Yes immigration relevant? No Was it a means of transport mainly for passengers? This mainly for freight? a car? a lorry? a ship? an aircraft? a balloon? a train? a tram or subway? This a bus? is the more helpful thing she could do to release him? Yes, but how? has he promised to stay wherever he is until something happens? No until she does something? No the place where he is stuck - rail? This -- see above road? sea? air? Is Cal stranded in an airport, and not allowed to leave? No (I remember a movie like this...) So do I -- The Terminal. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4122 Registered: 9-2010 |
So he was legally unable to leave a subway? kitteh iz nawt haz enuf cheezburgurz tu pay teh fare, mabee? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14063 Registered: 4-2010 |
So he was legally unable to leave a subway? Yes! kitteh iz nawt haz enuf cheezburgurz tu pay teh fare, mabee? And yes! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4124 Registered: 9-2010 |
so...bringz him cheezburgurz tu eat, but nawt monee-cheezburgurz foar kitteh tu pay teh fare? =( iz sillee! why iz nawt doez dat? doez nawt want him bak? o.O | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14064 Registered: 4-2010 |
so...bringz him cheezburgurz tu eat, but nawt monee-cheezburgurz foar kitteh tu pay teh fare? Yes, yes, yes!!! =( iz sillee! why iz nawt doez dat? doez nawt want him bak? o.O My question exactly. **********SPOILER********** Well, let me tell you of the story Of a man named Charlie On a tragic and fateful day; He put ten cents in his pocket, Kissed his wife and family, Went to ride on the M. T. A. But did he ever return? No, he never returned, And his fate is still unlearned. (Poor old Charlie) He may ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston, He's the man who never returned. Charlie handed in his dime At the Kendall Square station, And he changed for Jamaica Plain. When he got there the conductor told him, "One more nickel." Charlie couldn't get off of that train. But did he ever return... Now all night long Charlie rides through the station, Crying, "What will become of me? How can I afford To see my sister in Chelsea Or my cousin in Roxbury?" But did he ever return... Charlie's wife goes down To the Scully Square station Every day at quarter past two. And through the open window She hands Charlie a sandwich As the train comes rumbling through. But did he ever return... Now, you citizens of Boston, Don't you think it's a scandal How the people have to pay and pay? Fight the fare increase, Vote for George O'Brien! Get poor Charlie off the M. T. A! Or else he'll never return No, he'll never return, And his fate is still unlearned. (Poor old Charlie) He may ride forever 'neath the streets of Boston, He's the man who never returned, He's the man who never returned, He's the man who never returned. I've always wondered why Charlie's wife didn't just give him another nickel; not only would it have cost less than all the sandwiches, but it would've gotten him off the MTA. Nice work everyone. By the way, the song is called "M. T. A." and the most well-known recording is by the Kingston Trio. Here's a recording that skips the third verse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VMSGrY-IlU | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4126 Registered: 9-2010 |
iz costs much less to givz nickel than buy cheezburgur...wut iz wrong with her? o.O wuz excellunt puzzel Balin kitteh, az usual =) |
