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Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14304 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:34 pm: |      |
A man's attempt at murder was foiled by a nail. How? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4219 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:41 pm: |      |
Nail = metal thing you use with a hammer to hold stuff together? Nail = finger/toenail? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14307 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 6:03 pm: |      |
Nail = metal thing you use with a hammer to hold stuff together? This Nail = finger/toenail? |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 397 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 6:28 pm: |      |
Did he try to murder someone by shooting this person? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14312 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:39 pm: |      |
Did he try to murder someone by shooting this person? No |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 401 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:45 pm: |      |
Are place/time where this situation happened relevant? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14315 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 8:58 pm: |      |
Are place/time where this situation happened relevant? Place: yes, DOYD of "place." Time: no. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4113 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 9:02 pm: |      |
Was the nail at the place of the murder attempt? Did the victim escape unharmed? Did the would-be killer get injured? Die? Was the victim HAM? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14319 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 12:13 am: |      |
Was the nail at the place of the murder attempt? Yes Did the victim escape unharmed? Yes Did the would-be killer get injured? No Die? No Was the victim HAM? HAF |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 407 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 2:35 am: |      |
Place: indoors? outdoors? Home? Street? Relevant to find out: city? state? country? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14326 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 2:49 am: |      |
Place: indoors? outdoors? Home? Street? Indoors, in a home. Rest is irrel Relevant to find out: city? state? country? |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 409 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:59 am: |      |
Did the would-be killer get in direct contact with the nail? Did the victim? Relevant to find out the reason for the murder attempt? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1571 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 11:02 am: |      |
was the nail in a shoe? was the nail supposed to be holding something up? holding something together? was the nail missing? or did it fall out? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14330 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 2:03 pm: |      |
Did the would-be killer get in direct contact with the nail? No Did the victim? Yes Relevant to find out the reason for the murder attempt? No was the nail in a shoe? No was the nail supposed to be holding something up? holding something together? Neither was the nail missing? or did it fall out? Neither |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 992 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:11 pm: |      |
Did the victim use the nail? Did murderer enter the house? Did murderer enter the room where was his victim? Did murderer aim his weapon on the victim? Relevant how murderer planned to kill his victim? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14337 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Did the victim use the nail? No Did murderer enter the house? Yes Did murderer enter the room where was his victim? Yope Did murderer aim his weapon on the victim? Yope Relevant how murderer planned to kill his victim? Yes |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 1783 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:48 pm: |      |
We determined that the would-be victim was in contact with the nail, but not the killer, yes? Did the vic trip over the nail? Is the method of murder relevant? Did the nail: Keep the killer from getting to the vic? Warn the vic of the killer's approach? Force the vic to move at a critical moment? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14341 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:52 pm: |      |
We determined that the would-be victim was in contact with the nail, but not the killer, yes? Yes Did the vic trip over the nail? No, but OTRT Is the method of murder relevant? Yes Did the nail: Keep the killer from getting to the vic? No Warn the vic of the killer's approach? No Force the vic to move at a critical moment? Yes |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 1786 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 5:02 pm: |      |
And now I get to show my grusome side with a list of murder methods... Stabbing? Shooting with a gun? Shooting with a bow & arrow? Strangling? Attacking with a power tool? Suffocation? Drowning? Beating to death with hands? Beating to death with an object? Defenestration? Crushing beneath an object? Starvation? Dehydration? Overdose? Poisoning? Death by animal? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14344 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:34 pm: |      |
And now I get to show my grusome side with a list of murder methods... Stabbing? Shooting with a gun? Shooting with a bow & arrow? Strangling? Attacking with a power tool? Suffocation? Drowning? Beating to death with hands? Beating to death with an object? Defenestration? Crushing beneath an object? And I get to show my gruesome side with this answer. Starvation? Dehydration? Overdose? Poisoning? Death by animal? |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 1792 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:37 pm: |      |
Is the exact object relevant? Is it one commonly found inside homes? Perhaps a bookshelf? Large flat screen TV? Cabinet of some sort? Did the killer push it over? But it got caught on a nail? And didn't topple directly on to the vic? Did the victim brush against the nail? Step on it? Run into it? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14346 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:40 pm: |      |
Is the exact object relevant? Not particularly. It was a stone cannonball, which should answer the rest of these questions. Is it one commonly found inside homes? Perhaps a bookshelf? Large flat screen TV? Cabinet of some sort? Did the killer push it over? But it got caught on a nail? And didn't topple directly on to the vic? No to all Did the victim brush against the nail? This is close, but No. No to the others as well Step on it? Run into it? |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 1798 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:07 pm: |      |
Did the victim see the nail? Touch the nail? Touch the nail on purpose (picked it up, reached for it)? Touch the nail on accident (ran into it, fell on it, etc.)? Is there only one nail? Was the killer planning on dropping the cannonball on the vic? Firing the cannonball at the vic? Did the vic see the nail and bend over to pick up just as the killer launched the cannonball? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14357 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:27 pm: |      |
Did the victim see the nail? No Touch the nail? Yes Touch the nail on purpose (picked it up, reached for it)? No Touch the nail on accident (ran into it, fell on it, etc.)? Yes Is there only one nail? Yes Was the killer planning on dropping the cannonball on the vic? Yes Firing the cannonball at the vic? No Did the vic see the nail and bend over to pick up just as the killer launched the cannonball? No |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 417 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:41 pm: |      |
Was the cannon ball placed over a door so that when the victim opened the door it would fall over her? And the victim got her clothing 'stuck'/pulled by the nail so that she wasn't exactly below the cannon ball when it fell? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14358 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Was the cannon ball placed over a door so that when the victim opened the door it would fall over her? And the victim got her clothing 'stuck'/pulled by the nail so that she wasn't exactly below the cannon ball when it fell? I don't need to say anything more...spot-on accurate. **********SPOILER********** See above. This scenario comes from an Agatha Christie novel (Hercule Poirot's Christmas). The reason the victim had to be female was because it was her skirt that caught on the nail, pulling her back into the hallway so the cannonball missed her. Impressive solve, Danielvs -- don't know how you figured it out so quickly. And points also to Vesica for a lot of the details. |
Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs
Post Number: 420 Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:06 am: |      |
Hi Matt, At first I had no clue about what this puzzle was about. But the word "cannonball" rang a bell, and the first thing that came into my mind was this scenario that turned out to be correct. The last time I read an Agatha Christie book was more than 10 years ago, but by then I had read almost all of her collection. And this particular book is surely one of my favourites. The thing with the balloons on the same book can also make for a good puzzle. Another good situation for a puzzle is the murder on "They do It With Mirrors". I didn't mean to spoil your puzzle, I even thought it was a long shot when I posted my last questions. Nice puzzle! Daniel. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14366 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:49 am: |      |
No need to apologize -- I was really impressed. I'm making my way through all the Christie books...in fact I think there's only 1 Poirot full-length novel I haven't read (Sad Cypress). I probably will be making more puzzles based on Christie novels so keep an eye out for them. |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 1812 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 6:11 pm: |      |
Arg!! I was so close! Great puzzle and hooray for Christie-themed puzzles in the future. Though I will say, a lot of us seem to be devotees so they might go quick once we get the theme. Maybe I need to do some Sayers-inspired puzzles. :D |