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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man's attempt at murder was foiled by a nail. How?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nail = metal thing you use with a hammer to hold stuff together?
Nail = finger/toenail?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nail = metal thing you use with a hammer to hold stuff together? This
Nail = finger/toenail?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he try to murder someone by shooting this person?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he try to murder someone by shooting this person? No
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Are place/time where this situation happened relevant?
Balin (Balin)
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Are place/time where this situation happened relevant? Place: yes, DOYD of "place." Time: no.
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Was the nail at the place of the murder attempt? Did the victim escape unharmed? Did the would-be killer get injured? Die? Was the victim HAM?
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Was the nail at the place of the murder attempt? Yes Did the victim escape unharmed? Yes Did the would-be killer get injured? No Die? No Was the victim HAM? HAF
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Place: indoors? outdoors? Home? Street?
Relevant to find out: city? state? country?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 2:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Place: indoors? outdoors? Home? Street? Indoors, in a home. Rest is irrel
Relevant to find out: city? state? country?
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Did the would-be killer get in direct contact with the nail? Did the victim?
Relevant to find out the reason for the murder attempt?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the nail in a shoe?

was the nail supposed to be holding something up? holding something together?

was the nail missing? or did it fall out?
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Did the would-be killer get in direct contact with the nail? No Did the victim? Yes
Relevant to find out the reason for the murder attempt? No

was the nail in a shoe? No

was the nail supposed to be holding something up? holding something together? Neither

was the nail missing? or did it fall out? Neither
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the victim use the nail?
Did murderer enter the house?
Did murderer enter the room where was his victim?
Did murderer aim his weapon on the victim?

Relevant how murderer planned to kill his victim?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the victim use the nail? No
Did murderer enter the house? Yes
Did murderer enter the room where was his victim? Yope
Did murderer aim his weapon on the victim? Yope

Relevant how murderer planned to kill his victim? Yes
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We determined that the would-be victim was in contact with the nail, but not the killer, yes?

Did the vic trip over the nail?

Is the method of murder relevant?

Did the nail:
Keep the killer from getting to the vic?
Warn the vic of the killer's approach?
Force the vic to move at a critical moment?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We determined that the would-be victim was in contact with the nail, but not the killer, yes? Yes

Did the vic trip over the nail? No, but OTRT

Is the method of murder relevant? Yes

Did the nail:
Keep the killer from getting to the vic? No
Warn the vic of the killer's approach? No
Force the vic to move at a critical moment? Yes
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And now I get to show my grusome side with a list of murder methods...

Stabbing?
Shooting with a gun?
Shooting with a bow & arrow?
Strangling?
Attacking with a power tool?
Suffocation?
Drowning?
Beating to death with hands?
Beating to death with an object?
Defenestration?
Crushing beneath an object?
Starvation?
Dehydration?
Overdose?
Poisoning?
Death by animal?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And now I get to show my grusome side with a list of murder methods...

Stabbing?
Shooting with a gun?
Shooting with a bow & arrow?
Strangling?
Attacking with a power tool?
Suffocation?
Drowning?
Beating to death with hands?
Beating to death with an object?
Defenestration?
Crushing beneath an object? And I get to show my gruesome side with this answer.
Starvation?
Dehydration?
Overdose?
Poisoning?
Death by animal?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the exact object relevant?
Is it one commonly found inside homes?
Perhaps a bookshelf?
Large flat screen TV?
Cabinet of some sort?

Did the killer push it over?
But it got caught on a nail?
And didn't topple directly on to the vic?

Did the victim brush against the nail?
Step on it?
Run into it?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the exact object relevant? Not particularly. It was a stone cannonball, which should answer the rest of these questions.
Is it one commonly found inside homes?
Perhaps a bookshelf?
Large flat screen TV?
Cabinet of some sort?

Did the killer push it over?
But it got caught on a nail?
And didn't topple directly on to the vic? No to all

Did the victim brush against the nail? This is close, but No. No to the others as well
Step on it?
Run into it?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the victim see the nail?
Touch the nail?
Touch the nail on purpose (picked it up, reached for it)?
Touch the nail on accident (ran into it, fell on it, etc.)?

Is there only one nail?

Was the killer planning on dropping the cannonball on the vic?
Firing the cannonball at the vic?

Did the vic see the nail and bend over to pick up just as the killer launched the cannonball?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the victim see the nail? No
Touch the nail? Yes
Touch the nail on purpose (picked it up, reached for it)? No
Touch the nail on accident (ran into it, fell on it, etc.)? Yes

Is there only one nail? Yes

Was the killer planning on dropping the cannonball on the vic? Yes
Firing the cannonball at the vic? No

Did the vic see the nail and bend over to pick up just as the killer launched the cannonball? No
Danielvs (Danielvs)
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the cannon ball placed over a door so that when the victim opened the door it would fall over her? And the victim got her clothing 'stuck'/pulled by the nail so that she wasn't exactly below the cannon ball when it fell?
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Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the cannon ball placed over a door so that when the victim opened the door it would fall over her? And the victim got her clothing 'stuck'/pulled by the nail so that she wasn't exactly below the cannon ball when it fell? I don't need to say anything more...spot-on accurate.

**********SPOILER**********

See above.

This scenario comes from an Agatha Christie novel (Hercule Poirot's Christmas). The reason the victim had to be female was because it was her skirt that caught on the nail, pulling her back into the hallway so the cannonball missed her.

Impressive solve, Danielvs -- don't know how you figured it out so quickly. And points also to Vesica for a lot of the details.
Danielvs (Danielvs)
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Matt,
At first I had no clue about what this puzzle was about. But the word "cannonball" rang a bell, and the first thing that came into my mind was this scenario that turned out to be correct.
The last time I read an Agatha Christie book was more than 10 years ago, but by then I had read almost all of her collection. And this particular book is surely one of my favourites. The thing with the balloons on the same book can also make for a good puzzle.
Another good situation for a puzzle is the murder on "They do It With Mirrors".
I didn't mean to spoil your puzzle, I even thought it was a long shot when I posted my last questions.
Nice puzzle!
Daniel.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 3:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No need to apologize -- I was really impressed. I'm making my way through all the Christie books...in fact I think there's only 1 Poirot full-length novel I haven't read (Sad Cypress).

I probably will be making more puzzles based on Christie novels so keep an eye out for them.
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Arg!! I was so close! Great puzzle and hooray for Christie-themed puzzles in the future. Though I will say, a lot of us seem to be devotees so they might go quick once we get the theme.

Maybe I need to do some Sayers-inspired puzzles. :D

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