| Author | Message | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4179 Registered: 9-2009 |
My first reaction was surprise. It does make perfect sense though. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1631 Registered: 2-2011 |
were you surpprised at something that happened? something you found out? did you see it? hear it? read it? | ||
| Yatin509 (Yatin509)
New member Username: Yatin509 Post Number: 215 Registered: 6-2011 |
Were you surprised or you made someone surprised? You were surprised to see some thing? person? place? event? Is it someone's birthday and you are saying surprise? Did it happen first time in your life? You went somewhere(Park etc.)? Any other person relevant? Place relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4181 Registered: 9-2009 |
were you surpprised at something that happened? Yes. something you found out? For svv of "found out". did you see it? This. hear it? read it? Were you surprised This. or you made someone surprised? No. You were surprised to see some thing? Yes. person? place? event? No to the rest. Is it someone's birthday and you are saying surprise? No. Did it happen first time in your life? Yes. You went somewhere(Park etc.)? No. Any other person relevant? Yes. Place relevant? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14407 Registered: 4-2010 |
Other person -- H? A? M? "Place": country? City? Actual location? Indoors? Outdoors? Public place? Private? On land? Sea? Air? Skydiving relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4182 Registered: 9-2009 |
Other person -- H? A? M? HAF "Place": country? City? Actual location? This. Indoors? Yes. Outdoors? Public place? Private? This. On land? This, no to the rest. Sea? Air? Skydiving relevant? | ||
| Yatin509 (Yatin509)
New member Username: Yatin509 Post Number: 217 Registered: 6-2011 |
Place-Your Home? Office? Exact room relevant? The other people your friends? Relative? Family member? Strangers? Did they they brought something for you? Did you ordered the thing and it was better than you expected? Other Person All HAMS ? HAFS ? MIXED ? Relevant? Was the thing new? Refurbished? Old? Your age at that time? 0-15? 16-20? 20-28 ? 28? Would it be still surprising if you 80 years old? The thing living(dog etc? Non living? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4185 Registered: 9-2009 |
You were surprised to see some thing? BLOOPER: The answer should be NO. I was surprised to see something, but not an object as such. Place-Your Home? Yes. Office? Exact room relevant? No. The other people your friends? <b> Relative? Family member? Strangers? Did they they brought something for you? No. Did you ordered the thing and it was better than you expected? No/see blooper Other Person All HAMS ? HAFS ? MIXED ? Relevant? Only one other person than me in this puzzle. HAF, relevant. Was the thing new? Refurbished? Old? No/see blooper Your age at that time? 0-15? 16-20? 20-28 ? 28? 30. Would it be still surprising if you 80 years old? Possibly. The thing living(dog etc? Non living? Irr/see blooper | ||
| Yatin509 (Yatin509)
New member Username: Yatin509 Post Number: 223 Registered: 6-2011 |
You saw some phenomenon occurring? Does it occurs usually? Would even a 5 year old be surprised of something*? Did she made you surprise? Is she your wife? Surprise your baby(to be born)? You forgot this- The other people your friends? Relative? Family member? Strangers? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4190 Registered: 9-2009 |
You saw some phenomenon occurring? You could say that. Does it occurs usually? Yes, but... Would even a 5 year old be surprised of something*? Probably not. Did she made you surprise? She caused the "phenomenon". Is she your wife? No, but OTRT Surprise your baby(to be born)? No, nothing like this. You forgot this- The other people your friends? Relative? Family member? Strangers? The only people involved are me and her. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14417 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is she your girlfriend? Fiancee? A family member? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4194 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is she your girlfriend? This. Fiancee? A family member? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1639 Registered: 2-2011 |
you saw your girlfriend doing something which she would not normally do? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4195 Registered: 9-2009 |
you saw your girlfriend doing something which she would not normally do? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1649 Registered: 2-2011 |
did you see your girlfriend doing something? did you see the result of her action? were you surprised by the result rather than the action itself? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4203 Registered: 9-2009 |
did you see your girlfriend doing something? No. did you see the result of her action? were you surprised by the result rather than the action itself? I saw the result of something, and it was the result that surprised me. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1663 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the thing your girlfriend did quite normal? but the result was not? was this not the usual result of someone doing ths thing? the thing she did - indoors? outdoors? had she done it before? did she do it often? is it something that most people do at least sometimes? does it require another person to do it with or to? does it require an object? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4215 Registered: 9-2009 |
was the thing your girlfriend did quite normal? but the result was not? Everything is normal. was this not the usual result of someone doing ths thing? It was the usual result. the thing she did - indoors? This. outdoors? had she done it before? did she do it often? is it something that most people do at least sometimes? Everyone does it all the time. does it require another person to do it with or to? No. does it require an object? Not necessarily, but some objects contribute to "it" when used. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1664 Registered: 2-2011 |
did she do it by accident? intentionally? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4216 Registered: 9-2009 |
did she do it by accident? intentionally? Neither. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 282 Registered: 7-2006 |
So, she did something normal? With a normal outcome? You were surprised by her doing it there and then? You were surprised by the outcome in this case? But it was a normal outcome? Would it be something analogous to, say, you switch on the light, and the light bulb burns out immediately - you would not be surprised in general, because this happens from time to time, but you are surprised this time, because you've just changed it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4217 Registered: 9-2009 |
So, she did something normal? Yes. With a normal outcome? Yes. You were surprised by her doing it there and then? No. You were surprised by the outcome in this case? Yes. But it was a normal outcome? Yes. Would it be something analogous to, say, you switch on the light, and the light bulb burns out immediately - you would not be surprised in general, because this happens from time to time, but you are surprised this time, because you've just changed it? No - I was surprised because it was the first time this happened to me. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 286 Registered: 7-2006 |
Could it be a hint which room in the accomodation this happened? So she did something that could be classified as "happening to you"? In a more involved sense than you standing idly by and watching it happen? Did she do it "to you" as it were? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4220 Registered: 9-2009 |
Could it be a hint which room in the accomodation this happened? All. So she did something that could be classified as "happening to you"? Yope. In a more involved sense than you standing idly by and watching it happen? Yope. Did she do it "to you" as it were? Yope. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1675 Registered: 2-2011 |
was she cleaning the house? singing? whistling? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4224 Registered: 9-2009 |
was she cleaning the house? No, but... singing? whistling? No to both. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1021 Registered: 1-2011 |
It happened in all rooms, because she was moving all the time? Or because its effects were spread in the whole house? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1695 Registered: 2-2011 |
was she cleaning something else? was she painting or decorating? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4248 Registered: 9-2009 |
It happened in all rooms, because she was moving all the time? Or because its effects were spread in the whole house? Both. was she cleaning something else? was she painting or decorating? No to both - but cleaning is relevant (hint). | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14540 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had you cleaned something already? Did she want to clean that thing? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4250 Registered: 9-2009 |
Had you cleaned something already? Yes. Did she want to clean that thing? Irr. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 54 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was this a pleasant surprise? My understanding is that she was not cleaning but that cleaning is relevant. You were surprised by a normal outcome of a normal activity because of the circumstances of the outcome in this case. Is that correct? Any personal attributes of your girlfriend relevant (height, religion, etc.)? Is this why you were surprised? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4251 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was this a pleasant surprise? No. My understanding is that she was not cleaning but that cleaning is relevant. Correct. You were surprised by a normal outcome of a normal activity because of the circumstances of the outcome in this case. Is that correct? Yes - for svv of "activity". The only special circumstance was that this hadn't happened to me before. Any personal attributes of your girlfriend relevant (height, religion, etc.)? Is this why you were surprised? No to all. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 58 Registered: 8-2011 |
"Was this a pleasant surprise? No." I am sorry to hear this. Cleaning is relevant because you had cleaned something, correct? Did you find a mess or some kind? For instance, did she turn on the blender without properly capping it, which led to a vanilla-raspberry smoothie being splattered all over the walls? You say it had never happened to you but had it happened to anyone you know? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4252 Registered: 9-2009 |
"Was this a pleasant surprise? No." I am sorry to hear this. The unpleasantness is insignificant. Cleaning is relevant because you had cleaned something, correct? Yes. Did you find a mess or some kind? Yes. For instance, did she turn on the blender without properly capping it, which led to a vanilla-raspberry smoothie being splattered all over the walls? No. You say it had never happened to you but had it happened to anyone you know? Yes. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 66 Registered: 8-2011 |
The mess was throughout the house, correct? On the walls? The floor? The furniture? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4253 Registered: 9-2009 |
The mess was throughout the house, correct? Yes. On the walls? The floor? Mostly this. The furniture? Some of this, but not that relevant. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14562 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had something been spilled on the floor? Did something break? Did a pet (or other animal) make waste on the floor? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4258 Registered: 9-2009 |
Had something been spilled on the floor? Did something break? Did a pet (or other animal) make waste on the floor? No to all. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 68 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did the mess come in the form of some objects scattered on the floor? If yes, the size of grains of sand? marbles? apples? shoe boxes? Larger? Or was it something like laundry (which can be many different sizes)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4259 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the mess come in the form of some objects scattered on the floor? For svv of "objects". If yes, the size of grains of sand? This or smaller. marbles? apples? shoe boxes? Larger? Or was it something like laundry (which can be many different sizes)? No. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 76 Registered: 8-2011 |
Dust? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4260 Registered: 9-2009 |
Dust? Indeed. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 81 Registered: 8-2011 |
Vacuum malfunction? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4267 Registered: 9-2009 |
Vacuum Relevant. malfunction?No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1706 Registered: 2-2011 |
had the dust been brought in by the wind? had it come from outside? was it caused by a ceiling collapsing? by someone knocking down a wall? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4270 Registered: 9-2009 |
had the dust been brought in by the wind? had it come from outside? was it caused by a ceiling collapsing? by someone knocking down a wall? No to all. You're making a false assumption. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 87 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was there an intentional reason that there was dust everywhere? Did an accident occur? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4271 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was there an intentional reason that there was dust everywhere? Did an accident occur? No to both. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14600 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had she vacuumed, but not put the bag in? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4272 Registered: 9-2009 |
Had she vacuumed, but not put the bag in? No, she didn't clean (or try to clean) anything. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 91 Registered: 8-2011 |
This occurred in your home, correct? Had she even been in your home? Was she in any way responsible for the dusty mess? Had she intended to give you a pleasant surprise? Was she supposed to have cleaned (or tried to clean) anything? HVAC relevant? | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2011 |
This occurred in your home, correct? Had she even been in your home? Was she in any way responsible for the dusty mess? Had she intended to give you a pleasant surprise? Was she supposed to have cleaned (or tried to clean) anything? HVAC relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4273 Registered: 9-2009 |
This occurred in your home, correct? Yes. Had she even been in your home? Yes. Was she in any way responsible for the dusty mess? Yes. Had she intended to give you a pleasant surprise? No. Was she supposed to have cleaned (or tried to clean) anything? No. HVAC relevant? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1036 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did this action always provoke mess as its normal outcome? Was the mess of organic origin (for example food)? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4281 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did this action always provoke mess as its normal outcome? Yes, for svv of "action". Was the mess of organic origin (for example food)? Some of it. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1043 Registered: 1-2011 |
Could you also smell the mess (besides seeing it, of course)? Is food preparing relevant? Was anybody hurt? The action (svv) which caused the mess takes: few seconds? a minute? few minutes? half an hour? an hour? more than an hour? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4297 Registered: 9-2009 |
Could you also smell the mess (besides seeing it, of course)? No. Is food preparing relevant? Yope. Was anybody hurt? No. The action (svv) which caused the mess takes: few seconds? a minute? few minutes? half an hour? an hour? more than an hour? Days. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1736 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a fire? something disintegrating? did a bird get trapped in the house? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1046 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did she try to make wine? or juice? And it exploded after several days? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4300 Registered: 9-2009 |
was it a fire? something disintegrating? did a bird get trapped in the house? Did she try to make wine? or juice? And it exploded after several days? No to all. You're still making the FA. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14648 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did she try to make something at all? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4304 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did she try to make something at all? No/irr. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1742 Registered: 2-2011 |
there was dust in the house? she was responsible for the dust? partly responsible? was it dusty because no-one had been dusting? had the house been empty for a while? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4313 Registered: 9-2009 |
there was dust in the house? Yes. she was responsible for the dust? partly responsible? This. was it dusty because no-one had been dusting? Noish. had the house been empty for a while? No. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 98 Registered: 8-2011 |
Were you ever in the house during the days it took to make a mess? Was the mess the result of inaction? Had she intended the negative outcome of her action/inaction? Had she been preparing food? Had someone else? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4315 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were you ever in the house during the days it took to make a mess? Yes. Was the mess the result of inaction? Yesish. Had she intended the negative outcome of her action/inaction? Irr. Places get dusty whether you intend them to or not. Had she been preparing food? Had someone else? Yes to both, but irr. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1055 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was the mess just the normal outcome of living in the place? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4323 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the mess just the normal outcome of living in the place? Exactly! So why was I surprised? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1057 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did you expect the place to be clean? Did you expect bigger mess? Seeing normally-messy flat was not the thing which happened to you first time in your life, correct? Were you surprised because you forget about something? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4324 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you expect the place to be clean? Yesish, explore. Did you expect bigger mess? No. Seeing normally-messy flat was not the thing which happened to you first time in your life, correct? Correct. Were you surprised because you forget about something? No. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1063 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did you order somebody to clean the house? Did you assume somebody would clean your house? Did you expect guests? Did you have your house renewed/redecorated and expect people who did the renovation/redecoration to clean the house? Did you see someone advertising vacuum cleaners and expect he would come and clean the house as a part of his show? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4329 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you order somebody to clean the house? No. Did you assume somebody would clean your house? No. I clean my house myself, which is relevant. Did you expect guests? No. Did you have your house renewed/redecorated and expect people who did the renovation/redecoration to clean the house? No. Did you see someone advertising vacuum cleaners and expect he would come and clean the house as a part of his show? No. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1784 Registered: 2-2011 |
had you not cleaned the house? were you about to clean the house? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4336 Registered: 9-2009 |
had you not cleaned the house? I had cleaned it some time before. were you about to clean the house? Yesish. Hint: it is something i realized during the span of a few weeks. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1070 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did your house change on relevant way during those few weeks? Did you change methods of cleaning? Did you change cleaning chemicals? During the relevant few weeks, was your house cleaner than you expected it to be? Seasons of the year relevant? Weather relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4343 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did your house change on relevant way during those few weeks? Something changed, but not the house. Did you change methods of cleaning? Did you change cleaning chemicals? No to both. During the relevant few weeks, was your house cleaner than you expected it to be? No. Seasons of the year relevant? Weather relevant? No to both. | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1075 Registered: 1-2011 |
The thing that changed: part of the house? windows? decoration? furniture? Or was it something more personal? Like number of people living in the house? Amount of time spent by you in/out of the house? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4346 Registered: 9-2009 |
The thing that changed: part of the house? windows? decoration? furniture? No to all. Or was it something more personal? Yes. Like number of people living in the house? This, no to the rest. Amount of time spent by you in/out of the house? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1801 Registered: 2-2011 |
had your girlfriend moved in? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4348 Registered: 9-2009 |
had your girlfriend moved in? Yes! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14725 Registered: 4-2010 |
Had she rearranged some furniture or made some other change to the house? Something that was unfamiliar to you, being used to living alone/your house being a certain way, but made sense with the move-in? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4349 Registered: 9-2009 |
Had she rearranged some furniture or made some other change to the house? Irr. Something that was unfamiliar to you, being used to living alone/your house being a certain way, but made sense with the move-in? Something I was used to, changed because she moved in. You have all the important dots, you only need to connect them. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1805 Registered: 2-2011 |
did she bring loads of stuff with her? did you find the place was really cluttered? and that made it hard to clean? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4350 Registered: 9-2009 |
did she bring loads of stuff with her? Irr. did you find the place was really cluttered? No. and that made it hard to clean? It's not harder to clean than before, but... | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1082 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did you expect the house to be cleaner because your girlfriend had moved in on the first place? Or because some habit of hers? The thing that changed: eating habits? cleaning habits? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4354 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you expect the house to be cleaner because your girlfriend had moved in on the first place? No. Or because some habit of hers? No. The thing that changed: eating habits? Irr. cleaning habits? No - not until this happened. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 115 Registered: 8-2011 |
Hmmm... perhaps you had simply been surprised by how much dust was actually in your house. When your girlfriend moved in (and things were moved around), you were able to see how much dust had accumulated in places you had not seen in a while. Is this close? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1821 Registered: 2-2011 |
did you find that the house got dirtier because two people were living there? or got dirty more quickly? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1822 Registered: 2-2011 |
did you find that the house got dirtier because two people were living there? or got dirty more quickly? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4355 Registered: 9-2009 |
did you find that the house got dirtier because two people were living there? or got dirty more quickly? Close enough. ***SPOILER*** I was surprised to find that I had to vacuum roughly twice as often since she moved in. But it makes sense since we both create dust and mess. I've moved in with someone before in my life, but never had someone move in with me, so this was the first time I experienced this contrast. Thanks for playing, please have a go at my oldest puzzle at the top. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1831 Registered: 2-2011 |
nice one Galfisk! thanks | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 329 Registered: 7-2006 |
Same with me. I never vacuumed before I got married; after marrying, I had to do it twice as often :P |
