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Welcome, Puzzlers! You're invited to assist with yet another "room escape" puzzle which requires some lateral skills. This one involves two rooms, so here it goes...

As soon as I heard about this escape puzzle I knew I couldn't say "no", so I arrived at the appropriate place, a large house, walked up to the front door and opened it, and yadda yadda yadda I'm now in a room that's mostly empty. In fact the only things in the room besides me and a small table are two men - one man wearing a dark gray suit is standing nearly still in the middle of the room; the other man, who is wearing a blue sweater and cargo pants is perched on a fairly long ladder which is leaning against the wall to my left. The man in the sweater is also nearly motionless, sitting on one of the ladder rungs and staring at the floor. Suit Man looks to be around age 65 with mostly gray hair and a full beard, Sweater Man looks about 40 and strongly resembles former British PM Tony Blair. There are several windows which allow plenty of sunlight into the room, and a door in one corner.
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iz they haz cheezburgur? =) srsly, I askin dat.

Ok. First of all, what does the table look like? Is there anything on it, just to be sure?

Talk to Sweater Man. Ask him if he is Tony Blair. If not, who is he? What does he want? Can you help him? What is the ladder doing there?

Talk to Suit Man. Who is he? What does he want? Can you help him?

Is the door locked? What does the door look like?
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iz they haz cheezburgur? =) srsly, I askin dat. Hmmm...get back to you on this...

Ok. First of all, what does the table look like? It's a dark wood, rectangular, about 3 ft high and 2' x 2' square
Is there anything on it, just to be sure? Yes, a ceramic mug with coffee in it next to a thermos

Talk to Sweater Man. Ask him if he is Tony Blair. If not, who is he? What does he want? Can you help him? What is the ladder doing there? "Hello," I say to SM, "are you by any chance Tony Blair?" He lets out a snort and replies, "Ha, that's a nice one, Tony Blair..." and he further mumbles something I can't understand. "Well if you aren't him then who are you?" I ask. "It's not important," he says, "you're missing the point." "Ah, perhaps not," says Suit Man, "maybe not missing the point at all." Continuing on with my purpose I say to SM, "Can I help you?" "Well of course you can, the question is will you?" he responds. "Why is this ladder here?" I ask. At this SM chuckles and says, "Oh, I'm not so sure you're the one to help us. Why else would the ladder be here?"

Talk to Suit Man. Who is he? What does he want? Can you help him? This has to be more promising, so I ask who he is. "Well shortly before you arrived I was the one who had it, but now I don't. It's in here, you see," and he taps the side of his head with his index finger. I ask Suit Man what he wants. "The same thing he does," says Suit Man, nodding toward Sweater Man (who I'll call Tony now). "Can I help you?" I ask. "Well if not you, then who?" is the reply. "I hardly think he's any help," says Tony. "Don't be quick to assume that," says Suit Man, "he did make a nice match to the former British PM now."

Is the door locked? What does the door look like? I checked the door, and it is in fact locked. It's a normal size door made of wood with a brass knob and two clasp locks that require keys.
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Does the thermos have anything in it? Coffee? Whose coffee is in the cup? Whose thermos is it?

Tony: What is the point?
Suit Man: Of course I want to help you. What is the "it" that you had? Information?

Tony and Suit Man: Do either of you have the keys to the door?

Suit Man: What is your name?

(BTW, Ixoye, what do "I" look like? Am "I" wearing anything important? Carrying anything important? I can haz cheezburgur? ;-) )
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Is there any writing in the cup?
Are the windows breakable?
Can the ladder be taken apart?
Ask Suit Man, politely, to please get off the ladder.
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Does the thermos have anything in it? I pick it up and shake it...yep, there's some liquid in there Coffee? Based on the aroma I detect after uncapping it I'd say yes
Whose coffee is in the cup? Whose thermos is it? I held up the thermos and mug and asked this, and Suit Man responded, "Hey don't spill any of that, I can't think without my coffee!" "I bet he doesn't know much about that," says Tony.

I ask Tony: What is the point? Tony: "The point is that we're still in need of help because of him (he flicks his thumb toward suit man).

I say to Suit Man: Of course I want to help you. What is the "it" that you had? Information? "Yes, yes, of course that's it," Suit Man replies, "and he (staring at Tony) doesn't have it."

I ask Tony and Suit Man: Do either of you have the keys to the door? Both of them reach into pockets and pull out single keys, wave them in the air, then put the keys back into their pockets.

I ask Suit Man: What is your name? "Call me Bill," he says, and this name fits him well because he somewhat reminds me of Bill Paxton only with grayer hair and a few inches taller.

(BTW, Ixoye, what do "I" look like? Am "I" wearing anything important? Carrying anything important? I can haz cheezburgur? ;-) ) "I" look like a fairly young man, clean shaven with blonde hair. I'm not carrying anything. I'll get back to you on the burgur.

Is there any writing in the cup? As I examine the cup Bill says to me, "Good grief, must you?" "Hey, this reminds me of April 6th, Bill, wonder what he knows that will help with that?"
Are the windows breakable? Hard to say. I walked to one of them and tapped on it, and Tony said, "Ah, see, we're getting nowhere! He's wasting time and not focusing on the task at hand."
Can the ladder be taken apart? It appears to be sturdy and solid. While I was studying it Tony commented, "It's essential to the task at hand, and I'm not getting off of it."
Ask Suit Man, politely, to please get off the ladder. You mean Tony? I asked, but he refused. "You're missing the point," he said.
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Give Bill the coffee, and see if it helps him remember.
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Give Bill the coffee, and see if it helps him remember. "Here, Bill, see if this helps," I say as I hand the mug of coffee to Bill. He takes a few sips and then says, "Ah yes, April 6th. We were discussing coffee, weren't we? Seems that you couldn't recall the most expensive coffee in the world...", Bill begins to pace back and forth as his voice trails off. "Right," adds Tony, "and I simply needed to know from you where I could find a venus flytrap." Bill continues to pace, and Tony climbs up to the top of the ladder and perches on the top rung.
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Kopi luwak, also known as civet coffee, is the most expensive coffee in the world, from the Indonesian archipelago and the Philippines. And the Venus Flytrap can be found natively in North and South Carolina, for starters. Incidentally, you really don't want to know why they call it civet coffee, I hope.
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Oh yeah, the bug poo coffee...someone ran a puzzle about that.

Hang on...will searching the LTPF archives help in this puzzle?
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I draw in a deep breath and then say, "Kopi luwak, also known as civet coffee, is the most expensive coffee in the world, from the Indonesian archipelago and the Philippines. And the Venus Flytrap can be found natively in North and South Carolina, for starters. Incidentally, you really don't want to know why they call it civet coffee, I hope." Both of the men are still and quiet for a minute, then Tony begins to shake his head. "No, no, all wrong," he says, "that can't be it. There has to be...or maybe...perhaps...that IS it!" He claps his hands together and exclaims, "Kopi luwak, of course!" From the top of the ladder he turns to face the wall, grabs both sides and slides all the way down to the bottom and sits on the lowest rung. When Tony is finally quiet, Bill begins pacing slowly in front of me. "So," says Bill, "the Carolinas? You've helped my friend over there and yet it doesn't seem that you've helped me at all." He paces slowly for several minutes then stops to drink the rest of the coffee from the mug. "Is it possible that a venus flytrap could be found anywhere else?" he asks.

Hang on...will searching the LTPF archives help in this puzzle? Yes, but not directly. There is an idea in at least 1 of my previous puzzles that could be helpful here, but only in an indirect way.
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There are some in New Jersey and Florida as well. As far as I know, there are none on Venus.
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So I add, "There are some in New Jersey and Florida as well. As far as I know, there are none on Venus."

Bill continues to pace, but says nothing. "Another dead end," Tony says, "but the mention of Florida brings to mind last Tuesday." "Indeed it does," Bill replies, "you still don't remember the name of Miami University's football mascot, do you?" Tony rolls his eyes, turns and climbs up a few rungs as Bill continues to pace.
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Well, Miami University, the one in Ohio (not the University of Miami), has the mascot "Swoop the RedHawks" with its nickname the RedHawks....
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"Well," I state, "Miami University, the one in Ohio (not the University of Miami), has the mascot "Swoop the RedHawks" with its nickname the RedHawks...". "Well it's the one in Florida," Bill interjects, "and it would help us both to know the mascot's name."
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Nitpick time: "Then why did you say 'Miami University' and not 'The University of Miami' when they're two totally different colleges?"

Anyway, U of Miami's nickname is the Hurricanes, but their mascot is Sebastian the Ibis. (????)
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Nitpick time: "Then why did you say 'Miami University' and not 'The University of Miami' when they're two totally different colleges?" Note from host: I didn't say it, Bill did...


"Gentlemen, U of Miami's nickname is the Hurricanes, but their mascot is Sebastian the Ibis," I say. Tony slaps his head and yells, "Sebastian! Now we're getting somewhere!" He excitedly climbs to the top rung and sits down. Bill begins pacing rapidly and talking to himself. He stops, looks at Tony and says, "So where does this leave us?" Tony is silent for several minutes even though his lips are moving and he nods his head several times. "Well," says Tony, "I am ready to move on." Bill says, "Yes, let's do that now." Bill looks at me and says, "There's a point to all of this, you know." He then begins pacing slowly and says to me, "So, what do you want to discuss now?"
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Cheezburgur? *is hopeful that it will have something to do with the puzzle*

Is Sebastian the crab from The Little Mermaid at all relevant?
or Johann Sebastian Bach?
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Ask them what happened last Tuesday.
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So I ask, "Is Sebastian the crab from The Little Mermaid at all relevant?" "Well it was, but he knew that answer," says Tony, "he may not watch much TV but he knows about movies."

"Or Johann Sebastian Bach?" I inquire. "Hmmm," Bill mutters, "seems we may have hit an impasse on that topic...yes indeed, on November 5th." I glance at Tony, who is nodding and slowly climbing down the ladder. He pauses part of the way down and says, "I'm certain that Bach was known for his work on the piano, but he (Tony nods at Bill) says that can't be the case." "Not possible," Bill then says, "and until that gets resolved we once again are at an impasse."

"What happened last Tuesday?" I inquire. "You see," Tony begins, "it's not really what happened on Tuesday, it's mostly what we remember about Tuesday." "Or what we don't remember," Bill says with a somewhat impatient tone. Tony, now perched on a rung, motions for me to approach him. As I do, he leans toward me and whispers, "It's not that I didn't remember, I never knew it in the first place."
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Do we still need to work out the Venus flytrap? Or was that just supposed to lead us to Florida?

November 5th...of last year (2010)? Is the election relevant?
Last Tuesday -- August 23? August 30?
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So I think to myself, "Do we still need to work out the Venus flytrap? Or was that just supposed to lead us to Florida?" I guess I must have said something out loud, because Tony laughs and says, "Yes! At some point I must know where a venus flytrap can be found." He glares at me, then turns and climbs back to the top of the ladder. "He knew about Sebastian," says Bill, "so maybe it's just a matter of time before he can help you." "Maybe," Tony responds.

So I ask, "November 5th...of last year (2010)?" Both Tony and Bill nod. "Is the election relevant?", I ask them. They look at each other, and Bill begins to pace. "Well not so much relevant to us on that day," he says, "in fact that election isn't important to us at all." I look over at Tony, who shakes his head and says, "No, not that one. Other elections yes, but not that one."

Then I say, "Last Tuesday -- August 23? August 30?" Tony, who is now moving up and down the rungs of the ladder, replies, "23rd..." and is then silent. As Bill paces past me he taps his head and says, "All in here, remember?"
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Are you referring to a real Venus flytrap? Or a fictional one?
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"Are you referring to a real Venus flytrap? Or a fictional one?" I inquire. "Hard to say," Bill says as he passes by, "could be either one. But then again I have my own dead-ends, this one is Tony's." Tony pauses on the ladder and looks over his shoulder at me. "See, you never know for sure," he says, "if it's to be taken literally or not. What I mean is that we're assuming that we, or mostly I, need to know where a venus flytrap can be found. There are other things I need to know as well, but since you asked about this one we might as well discuss it. When Bill says it's in here (he rubs his forehead) he's right, most of it is - the questions are there as are most of the answers...but not all of them."

Bill has stopped pacing now and is leaning on the table. "A fictional venus flytrap? Is there one we should know about?"
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WKRP in Cincinnati relevant at all? That had a DJ named Venus Flytrap.
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What about the giant plant in "Little Shop of Horrors"?
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"Is 'WKRP in Cincinnati' relevant at all? That had a DJ named Venus Flytrap," I say. "Or what about the giant plant in 'Little Shop of Horrors?"

Bill stands still and watches Tony, who is mumbling to himself and climbing the ladder. He pauses near the top of the ladder and yells, "Brah-vo!" He then slides to the bottom of the ladder and turns to face me. "Well does that help you?" asks Bill. Tony nods quickly and says, "Certainly! WKRP hadn't occurred to me, but it's the answer I was looking for. Audrey Two had also eluded my memory but the DJ was the one I needed. Bill?" Bill turns and walks all the way to the far wall, then spins around and walks back toward me. He abruptly stops and sits down on the floor and says, "Well I'm satisfied if you are, Tony. Can we move on?" "Certainly," says Tony, "although your lack of knowledge about television continues to slow us down. I mean, you did know that The Tick's sidekick is named Arthur but aside from that I've been pulling the weight in that category." Bill only clears his throat and looks at me with his eyebrows raised.
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Arthur? Perhaps the animated kids' show aardvark? Or President Chester Alan Arthur?
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"Arthur?" I ask. "Perhaps the animated kids' show aardvark? Or President Chester Alan Arthur?" Tony shakes his head and begins slowly climbing the ladder. "You're missing the point. I needed to know who The Tick's sidekick is, and Bill was somehow able to help me even though he's not that knowledgeable about television. As far as the kids' show I don't know of anything on that topic, and about the president...Bill?" Bill stands and puts his hands in his pockets as he begins to pace. "Yes there is something we need to know about that," Bill says, "specifically the name of the first secretary of the Navy that served under him. If we determine that, we can move beyond February 12th, can we not?" Tony pauses on the ladder and lets out a snort. "I'd like to think so," Tony says, "but I still may need help."
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The Tick's sidekick, in the comics, was named Arthur. And the first Secretary of the Navy to serve under him (the president, that is, not the comic dude) was William H. Hunt.
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"Well...the Tick's sidekick, in the comics, was named Arthur," I begin. "Yes, we have that covered," says Tony. I continue, "And the first Secretary of the Navy to serve under him (the president, that is, not the comic dude) was William H. Hunt." As soon as I'm done speaking, Bill snaps his fingers and says, "Hunt!" He paces quickly for a short distance and stops, then nods to Tony, who climbs down a few rungs on the ladder , pauses, then climbs up to the top of the ladder and perches. "Ok, that works," yells Tony. "Comic books, politics, television..." mutters Bill as he begins to pace some more. "Yes it all has a point, you know," Tony says.
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"I'm taking a break," says Tony as he climbs down and steps off of the ladder. He does a few stretching exercises and lies down on the floor. "I was hoping he'd catch on by now," he says, "so wake me up when he's ready to help some more. Surely it will make sense to him soon." "Certainly," replies Bill, as he empties the remaining coffee in the thermos into the mug. "I hope they bring french vanilla tomorrow," Bill says as he takes a sip from the mug. "French vanilla...July 30th..." mumbles Tony.
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July 30th...Saturday, July 30th, 2011? A different July 30th? French vanilla - coffee? ice cream? something else?
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"July 30th...Saturday, July 30th, 2011? A different July 30th? French vanilla - coffee? ice cream? something else?" I ask. "Oh it was this past one, 2011," Bill says. "Did you know that Eight O'Clock Coffee sells their French Vanilla variety in a yellow bag? Well I didn't know that, but Tony did and made a nice save for us. Of course we weren't doing this whole pacing-and-climbing business then, we weren't asked to do that until you came along." He takes another sip from the mug and says, "You know we can talk about coffee or ice cream, it doesn't matter to me. Until you realize there's a point to all of this then Tony and I have no choice but to entertain your questions and appreciate your answers. You'll not see me on that ladder, and you'll not see him pacing." I look over at Tony, who is beginning to snore.
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Hang on -- what's going on now?
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I haz no idea...but I rly wantz cheezburgur. Do yuo thinkz dey wantz cheezburgur? *asks Ixoye if dey wantz cheezburgur*
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"Look," Bill says, "I'd gladly trade places with you and rest a while and let you do the pacing, but we wouldn't be getting anywhere." He walks over to me, bends down and taps me softly on the head. "See it's not in there," he says, and then begins tapping his own head, "it's in here." He turns and walks across the room, stops next to Tony, bends down and thumps Tony on the forehead. As Tony groans and rubs his head, Bill puts his hand on Tony's head and says, "And it's in there. So pick a subject...any subject, it doesn't matter. Either we already know the answer or hopefully you do. It's not enough to know the answer, it's knowing what to do with it." Tony is now standing and yawning, and soon he walks to the ladder and leans against it.
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all right, not that I think this will go much of anywhere but I'm horribly confused and need SOME starting place, so...

Cheezburgurz relevant?
kittehz?
chocolate?
penguins?
Balin?
Gregory Coke? (hope he iz bein awl rite...)
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"He looks confused, still," says Tony. "Well yes, but don't give up," replies Bill.

"OK...Cheezburgurz relevant?" I ask. Both men shake their heads.
"kittehz?" I get a blank stare on this one.
"chocolate?" "Ahh, well he didn't recall that the movie 'Top Secret' had a character named Chocolate Mousse, but I bailed him out," says Tony as he motions to Bill.
"penguins?" I offer. Bill says, "Penguins? Yes, that was June 10th. Morgan Freeman narrated 'March of the Penguins', right?" Tony nods and says, "Yes, yes."
"Balin?" I ask. "Balin, Balin..." mumbles Tony, then he snaps his fingers and shouts, "Yes! Thank you!" Bill eyes Tony curiously as Tony climbs up a few rungs on the ladder and then freezes. "Well?" says Bill, "We're waiting." Tony smiles and says, "Marty Balin sang 'Hearts', remember now?" Bill startes blankly, then begins to pace and nod slowly. "Ok, ok," he says, "September 2nd, Marty Balin. Of course, now it makes sense." Bill paces more quickly for a few seconds then stops.
"Gregory Coke?" I ask. They both shrug at this, then Tony says, "Bill, we can move beyond September 2nd now." Bill nods, walks to the table and leans against it.
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Hangonhangonhangon...there's been a motif of dates going on...possibly corresponding to the two guys' movements! (Unfortunately, how those connect, I have no idea.)
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You're right about something corresponding to their movements, but it's not the dates.
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Ok, can you tell me anything about:
Koalas?
The University of Connecticut?
Coca Cola?
Christmas?
Santa Claus?
Ixoye?
Barrack Obama?
Fabulous monsters?
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"Ok," I begin, "can you tell me anything about:
Koalas?" Tony quickly comes back with, "March 3rd, the first confirmed koala twins were named 'Euca' and 'Lyptus.'"

"What about The University of Connecticut?" I ask. Both Tony and Bill shake their heads and raise their eyebrows.

"Coca Cola?" Tony laughs and says, "Ahh yes, May 25th, it's a polar bear that is featured in their winter ads, right Bill?" Bill nods.

"Christmas?" Tony and Bill look at each other and alternatively say, "June 2nd - October 5th - December 29th - March 11th..." Tony glances at me and says, "Yes, plenty to do with Christmas, it comes up quite often."

"How about Santa Claus?" I ask next. Bill gives a quick nod and says, "A visit from...", and Tony says at the same time as Bill, "Saint Nicholas!". "Yes that was April 18th," says Tony, "and Bill insisted that it was Santa but I knew better. Besides, 'Santa Claus' would not have been sufficient."

"And Ixoye?" I ask them. They look thoughtfully at the floor for a minute, then Bill says, "The Ichthys? Greek fish? Symbol for Christ? Tony?" Tony looks at the floor for a few seconds and then says, "That's never come up. Frankly I'm surprised."

"And Barrack Obama?" Bill moves away from the table and starts to pace. "No, not him," Bill says, "but other presidents, yes." Tony climbs to the top ladder rung and perches there. "June 30th," calls Tony, "the matter of Harding's wife. Bill doesn't know what her nickname was, and sadly I can't bail him out on this one." "I'll get it..." Bill says, still pacing.

"What about Fabulous monsters?" Tony shrugs and says, "The book? Marcia Williams? Something else, maybe? As far as I know that hasn't come up."
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can we use Google on this puzzle?
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Certainly, Google away!
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cheeseburgers?
In-n-Out?
Five Guys?
McDonald's?
penguins?
King penguins?
Emperor penguins?
Adelie penguins?
Magellanic penguins?
San Francisco Zoo?
tigers?
Tatiana?
San Diego Zoo?
Bronx Zoo?
London Zoo?
British royalty?
Queen Elizabeth II?
Line of British succession?
Prince Charles?
William, Duke of Cambridge?
Prince Harry?
Andrew, Duke of York?
Princess Beatrice?
Princess Eugenie?
Edward, Earl of Wessex?
Viscount Severn?
Lady Louise Windsor?
Anne, Princess Royal?
Peter Phillips?
Savannah Phillips?
Zara Phillips?
Royal weddings?
William marrying Kate Middleton?
Zara marrying Mike Tindall?
I'm very persistent, even when I don't know what I'm doing...
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I draw a deep breath, then begin firing away a list of topics from "cheeseburgers" to "Queen Elizabeth II." At that point, Tony holds his hand up and begins to laugh. "Hold it now," he says, "I'm not sure Bill and I are fast enough to keep up this pace, and we certainly can't bear all the climbing and walking we'd have to do." Bill is shaking his head and mumbles, "Can't agree more." As I open my mouth to continue, Tony says, "I believe that you may yet be miss-ing the point. We knew, for instance, that McDonald's slogan became 'Billions and Billions Served' at one point in history, and that allowed us to move beyond March 18th. As for penguins and zoos, that hasn't come up. Now royalty is always a pertinent subject, is it not?" Bill nods his head and paces silently. "Queen Elizabeth II, did you say?" asks Bill. As I nod he continues, "Well, you'll help Tony if you know what position she held as a Girl Guide." "But," says Tony, "while you'll be helping Bill and I get past February 26th I hope you'll be aware of the point of all of this."
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1937 saw Princess Elizabeth, who would go on to be Queen Elizabeth II become a Guide, and Princess Margaret become a Brownie. Princess Elizabeth joined the 1st Buckingham Palace Unit, whose first meeting was held on 9 June. She became the Second of Kingfisher Patrol, and was enrolled by her Aunt Princess Mary, Association President, on December 13.
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So, after I give a brief bio of QE2, Tony begins first going down, then up, then down, then up the ladder, never saying anything. He pauses, and Bill says, "Well does that help us?" Tony shakes his head and says, "No, I'm sure it's accurate but none of it helps me." Bill paces for a minute, then says, "Oh well, it still may come to you, or him."
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"Think about it like this," Tony says as he slides down to the bottom of the ladder. "You want to find the way out of here, and the way out is through a door which is locked. It takes 2 keys to unlock the door, but some doors only require one key. Suppose you needed to open a door which was locked and required one key to unlock, and I handed you a keyring with 100 keys on it and assured you that one of them would open that door. What would you think?" He leans close to me, taps his head and says, "It's in here, so don't miss the point."
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What can you tell me about February 26th?
About keys?
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I ask, "What can you tell me about February 26th?" Bill stops pacing and turns to face me. "We were doing great until the subject of Queen Elizabeth II came up, specifically her position when she was a Girl Guide. Tony knew that she had been a Girl Guide, but sadly that knowledge isn't enough." Tony, now perched atop the ladder, says, "At first, though, we thought it was enough, but then Bill knew it as well as I did that the answer had to be something different." Bill leans against the wall and says, "Other than that, there isn't much else to say about February 26th. Until one of us figures out the answer, we can go no further."

"What about keys?" I inquire. "Keys? Hmmm..." says Bill. "Ah, well now I do need help there. Tony has figured out that Schumann's Sonata No. 2 is in the key of something minor, but he doesn't know the key, nor do I." Tony nods and says, "I should know this, but I'm drawing a blank. I'm sure we could put June 1st behind us if we only knew the answer."
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The queen was the Patrol Leader of the Swallow Patrol. She later became Chief Ranger.

Schumann's Sonata No. 2 is in G Minor.

Is any of that information helpful?

What can you tell me about July 17?
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I tell them that the queen was the Patrol Leader of the Swallow Patrol. She later became Chief Ranger. "Hmmmm," mutters Tony, "Patrol Leader is no help. Swallow...", he turns and climbs partway down the ladder and pauses. "Well?" says Bill, "Is that it?" Tony sighs and says, "No, but I thought we had it for a second." When I inform them that the sonata is in G minor, Tony smiles, climbs up a rung and turns around to face Bill, who paces quickly for several steps and then stops. "Nice!" Bill exclaims, "I think June 1st is behind us now, isn't it?" Tony nods and grins.

I ask, "What can you tell me about July 17?" Bill raises his eyebrows and says, "Oh we had no trouble at all with that one. Tony is well versed in Irish literature, so even though I nearly held us up he saved the day."
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So to answer your previous question about the 100 keys, my first thought would be to ask whether you had any information that would help narrow down which keys it was. So, do you have any information that will help us narrow down what we're looking for in terms of the two keys that open this door?

My second thought would be to try them one by one in the order they're on the ring until I found one that fit. Since dates seem to be relevant here, do we need to check each date for something? In calendar order, maybe?
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"So to answer your previous question about the 100 keys," I say, "my first thought would be to ask whether you had any information that would help narrow down which keys it was." Tony gives me a thumbs up and says, "Yes, indeed, you'd narrow it down wouldn't you? You'd know that there were many keys but only one of them fits." I continue with, "So, do you have any information that will help us narrow down what we're looking for in terms of the two keys that open this door?" Bill pipes in with, "Well there is something that needs to be narrowed down, yes, but not in that sense. You do need only one key, figuratively speaking, to get out of this room. We also, in many cases, need only one or a few keys to move on, but we'll be here until you find the key that you need. Hopefully as you help us find keys it will help you in return to find the only key you need."

"My second thought," I say next, "would be to try them one by one in the order they're on the ring until I found one that fit. Since dates seem to be relevant here, do we need to check each date for something? In calendar order, maybe?" Tony responds, "Finding a series of keys is going to help us, Bill and me. Your key will be found when you realize how you are helping us."
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How many rungs are on the ladder?
Are there any markings on the floor?
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How many rungs are on the ladder? 12
Are there any markings on the floor? No

This is OTRT...
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Do the 12 rungs on the ladder correspond to the 12 months of the year?
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"Do the 12 rungs on the ladder correspond to the 12 months of the year?" I ask. Bill whirls to face me and says, "Ah, now he's paying attention!" Tony, who had moved to the top of the ladder, now descends to the floor and smiles. "Twelve months, twelve rungs...a coincidence, one that I had not given thought to. So you haven't made the connection yet, but it looks like maybe you're beginning to see why we've said that there's a point to all of this."
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"I agree," says Bill, "I think he is starting to see our point. Thinking about the ladder and the floor should move us along much faster than simply answering questions." Tony, leaning casually against the ladder, nods his head and gives me a wink.
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What material is the floor made of? Is it tiled?
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What material is the floor made of? Is it tiled? No, just smooth concrete
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When Bill paces along the floor, is he moving towards anything in particular?
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When Bill paces along the floor, is he moving towards anything in particular? It doesn't seem so.
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"We've lost some momentum, it seems," says Tony, "just when I thought we were getting somewhere." Bill begins pacing again and replies, "Perhaps, or maybe it's still sinking in. We've spent so much time discussing dates and information that I think it all became a distraction to the point of it all." Tony climbs up a few rungs and perches, looking thoughtful.
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Perhaps just their movement is relevant...and the dates and info are just red herrings...
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Perhaps just their movement is relevant...and the dates and info are just red herrings...

Well I'll say this - you are correct that their movement is relevant; the dates and info aren't red herrings entirely but moreso a clue about their movements
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One of them moves vertically, while the other moves horizontally. Is that relevant? Perhaps their combined movement relates to some sort of coordinate system (kind of like the grid on the game Battleship)?
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"One of you moves vertically, while the other moves horizontally. Is that relevant?" "Of course! That's the point!" yells Tony. So I go on, "Perhaps your combined movement relates to some sort of coordinate system, kind of like the grid on the game Battleship?" Bill continues to pace as he says, "Well it's not Battleship, but you aren't far off."
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Let's see...there are 12 rungs...what coordinate system goes up 12 vertically? Hmmm...
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I start thinking aloud, "Let's see...there are 12 rungs...what coordinate system goes up 12 vertically? Hmmm..." Tony wags his finger at me and says, "That's pure coincidence. To really be appropriate it would need maybe, what, as many as 18? 20? Bill?" Bill looks toward Tony as he paces and responds, "Well I can't recall an instance where you would've had to go more than that." Tony closes his eyes for a minute, then opens them and says, "Well on three occasions I would have needed 18 to be completely accurate." Bill shrugs slightly and says, "Yes but you couldn't go that far all at once, you needed my help." Tony mimics in a whiney voice, "You needed my help," and glares at Bill. Bill merely shrugs again and continues pacing.
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Where were all the places Tony (or was it Bill? I can't remember who's where...) moved to on the floor?
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Where were all the places Tony (or was it Bill? I can't remember who's where...) moved to on the floor? It's Bill that paces on the floor, and he generally walks from the middle of the room toward the wall, then back toward the middle. He doesn't always take as many steps before he does a U-turn and he doesn't seem to be walking toward anything in particular or along the exact same path every time.
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What's the highest number of steps bill has taken before doing a u-turn?
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What's the highest number of steps bill has taken before doing a u-turn? Hmmm, I wish I had been keeping count. He can walk maybe 9 or 10 steps before he reaches the wall and has to turn around, but usually he takes a few steps, turns around and takes a few more, then turns around again. It seems to always be different.
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Bill's been going forward and back, and Tony's been going up and down...

Ask Bill how long the room is, in paces.
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Bill's been going forward and back, and Tony's been going up and down...Yes, and if you consider this in light of what kind of discussion has taken place you may guess the point of why they are doing this

Ask Bill how long the room is, in paces. Bill shrugs and says, "I don't know...more than I need in most cases. If I run out of room, though, I just turn around when I get to the wall. Of course I can take long or short strides unlike Tony there, who has to do a U-turn of his own if he runs out of rungs."
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Oh, it's the number of paces and rungs that matters, isn't it?
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"Oh," I say, "it's the number of paces and rungs that matters, isn't it?" Bill and Tony look at each other for a second, then Tony says, "I suppose we could have done it that way, certain number of paces and rungs, but that would be more literal than lateral now, wouldn't it?" Bill says, "Why yes, of course it would! It would be like telling someone they needed to put a puzzle together and then doing it for them! Now I believe you have all the pieces..." Tony quietly adds, "He does, he does, it's a matter of assembling it now."
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Are geographic coordinates relevant?
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"Coordinates, no," says Tony. "Now," he continues, "geography has plenty of relevance, and Bill and I fortunately had no trouble with that subject." Bill says, "If you want to talk geography then fine, let's talk geography, but you already realize that there's a point to all of this so should we even bother?" Tony shakes his head and says, "No, I think we shouldn't. He knows there's more to this than simply answering questions. In fact I think we're only moments from a breakthrough and then he's out of here."
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Are you revisiting questions from a trivia game? From Jeopardy? From some other game show?
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"Well you're not far off with that line of thinking," says Bill. "The kinds of topics that we discuss would likely turn up in trivia games and shows like 'Jeopardy.' We do need to know the answers, that's a big part of it." Tony says, "Yes, a big part, but there's more to it than just knowing the answers."
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As I read through this, I was coming to the same conclusion, Noel... but I'm not sure the 'coordinate system' stuff works out for Jeopardy.

The answers we have to supply for Bill and Tony -- are they questions that have stumped game contestants? Is there anything relevant about the fact that Bill knew some answers Tony didn't at the time, and vice versa? This have anything to do with a trivia calendar or something like that?
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The answers we have to supply for Bill and Tony -- are they questions that have stumped game contestants? "I imagine some of them would stump contestants," says Tony, "but if a contestant is stumped he either takes a guess or misses the question and the game goes on. We don't have that luxury - if we don't know the answer, we're at a standstill."

Is there anything relevant about the fact that Bill knew some answers Tony didn't at the time, and vice versa? "I know a lot of things about a lot of things," Bill says, "as does my friend over there (points to Tony). There are some areas in which I'm limited, but Tony will usually save me when I'm stumped, and I return the favor when he hits a dead end."

This have anything to do with a trivia calendar or something like that? "Hmmmm," mutters Tony as he rubs his chin thoughtfully, "once again you're not far off. There's more to it than trivia - the answers are one part, the rest is up here," he says as he taps his head.
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well, I was thinking Jeopardy because of the rows and columns on the board.
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I was thinking that for the same reason until Ixoye spoiled all our awesome Jeopardy fun with his too-large coordinate system ;-)

Bill said, "I return the favor when he hits a dead end." Literally? Are there times when Tony cannot move or is in the wrong place and Bill has to introduce a new piece of information that will allow him to move? Vice versa?

Before my crazy obsessive mind actually does it, would it be advisable to go back to the beginning and map Bill and Tony's movements as they happened and as they were associated with dates/info?

Might it be a good idea to answer more questions now and map their movements (i.e., exact step counts)?
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"Well, I was thinking Jeopardy because of the rows and columns on the board," I say quietly. Tony and Bill are both staring at me now. Tony leans forward and says, "On 'Jeopardy', the contestants can take a guess if they aren't sure of the answers, but they don't know whether or not they're correct until Alex tells them. In our case, we can take several guesses at an answer, there's no Alex Trebek to tell us if we're right or wrong, but at some point with enough guesses we realize that we have the right answer." Bill immediately adds, "And you're onto something with rows and columns."

Bill said, "I return the favor when he hits a dead end." Literally? Are there times when Tony cannot move or is in the wrong place and Bill has to introduce a new piece of information that will allow him to move? Vice versa? "Yes, very much so," says Bill, "but it's not that either of us is ever in the wrong place and we aren't limited by physical space. The dead-ends aren't in here (he spreads his arms out and looks around the room)." Tony taps his head and says, "The real dead ends are in here."

Before my crazy obsessive mind actually does it, would it be advisable to go back to the beginning and map Bill and Tony's movements as they happened and as they were associated with dates/info?
Tony shakes his hand and waves his hand as if he's swatting at an insect. "No need," he says. "Take for example our discussion about the venus flytrap. The dates associated with the information are mostly for our benefit but they provide a helpful clue as to what's going on." Bill says, "So Tony was at a dead-end until you rescued him with 'WKRP', even though he could have climbed or descended to his heart's content on that ladder." Tony adds, "You might recall that at one point we told you that it's not important what happened on certain dates, what's important about the dates is what we remember...or don't remember.

Might it be a good idea to answer more questions now and map their movements (i.e., exact step counts)? "Asking more questions now may indeed help you," says Bill, "since we've had this discussion. Keep in mind that we're not going to simply put the answer in a spoon and feed it to you but if you pay attention now I think you'll have it." Tony is smiling and looks ready to move.
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Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
What can you tell me about icebergs?
Is there anything keeping you from moving past October 7, 2011?
What about December 25?
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Where in the world is Carmen Sandiego? Bill and Tony just shrug when I ask them this
What can you tell me about icebergs? "Not much to tell," says Tony, "it's fairly common knowledge that the Titanic rammed one, at least common to Bill and me, so we didn't have any trouble with that one."
Is there anything keeping you from moving past October 7, 2011? Bill laughs and says, "You came into this room on August 29th, 2011, so we can talk about any relevant issues up until that date. Anything after that date is not in here," he says as he taps his head.
What about December 25? "Of what year?" asks Tony, "If you're talking about 2010 then no, not really a need to discuss it unless you simply want us to bore you with a bunch of facts." Bill adds, "We were done with December 25th on December 25th." Tony nods.
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Bill leans on the table once again and begins drumming his fingers on it. "The pieces are all here," he says, "it's a matter now of connecting the dots." Tony says, "Agreed, whether you focus on the individual aspects of it or the process of it, you'll reach the same conclusion."
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I'm sorry, I love this puzzle, but it makes me feel like I'm being very dense at the moment. I have no idea where to go from here, but don't want to let it die out. Is there any way to give a hint without giving it away?
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"He truly looks stumped," says Tony, "and I know we can't assist with the solution, but would it help if we pointed out a few things?" Bill leans against the wall and says casually, "What's to point out? You only move vertically, I only move horizontally; we need information and most of it we have already, we just need a little help from time to time; there's no one here to tell us when we have the right answer, but once we do have it there is no doubt about it, no matter how few or many times we guess; the pieces of information we need are associated with dates and coordinates; we can discuss information that was needed up until August 29th, the day you entered the room, since none of us has left the room since then neither Tony or I have any idea what new information is needed." Tony frowns at Bill and says, "Now you know much of what's needed beyond August 29th isn't new information, simply the same as what's been needed before, just asked or phrased a different way." Bill says, "Ah, good point! After all, we still don't know what position Queen Elizabeth II held as a Girl Guide, but how many times have we needed to recall that her father was George VI?" Tony rolls his eyes for a second, then holds up four fingers. "January 14th, April 2nd, July 28th and November 6th," he says.

Don't give up...
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Bill looks at me and says, "Not George the sixth, you see," and he makes a '6' in the air with his finger, "but rather George VI (he says it "vee eye")," and then makes a 'V' and an 'I' in the air with his finger. "There is a difference," says Tony.
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There is? You're right about this being a stumper...Kaylee kitteh is confused!!!
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Ok, so what do you need to know to get past January 14? April 2? July 28? And November 6? Are those all the times you needed to know that he was George VI?
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I don't know about 14 *January*, but 14 *December* was George VI's birthday (in 1895, to be exact) and he died on 6 February, 1952. (For anyone who's interested, and doesn't already know, that means HM Queen Elizabeth II's Diamond Jubilee is coming up next year. 60 years on the throne...she's catching up to Queen Victoria pretty fast!!)

Hey, is *that* at all relevant?
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"Yes, there is indeed a difference in the numeral 6," says Tony as he draws as '6' in the air with his finger, "and the letters 'V' (he draws a 'V' in the air) and 'I' (he draws an 'I' in the air)." Bill nods and says, "The answers we need never include numerals."

"To answer your other question, yes, on each of those dates it was necessary to either know or guess correctly that George VI was the father of Elizabeth. The other facts you gave about Elizabeth will be needed for a future date, most likely," says Bill. "We're done with those dates," says Tony, "we were simply pointing out that knowing about George VI (again...he draws letters in the air) was necessary on those dates."

"When you hear me say 'George the sixth', that's one thing," says Tony, "because I'm saying it. When it's expressed another way, that's when you get into the difference between this (draws a '6'), and this (draws VI)."
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According to sources, Queen Elizabeth II was Chief Ranger of the British Empire (that is a truly awesome title, btw). She was also a Sea Ranger. Either of these help Tony and Bill? If so, watch carefully to see how many steps/rungs each moves.

Must be George VI instead of George the sixth, eh? Any chance what the connection we're looking for has something to do with writing or something written? Ooh, is it crosswords? The NY Times crossword?
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According to sources, Queen Elizabeth II was Chief Ranger of the British Empire (that is a truly awesome title, btw). She was also a Sea Ranger. Either of these help Tony and Bill? If so, watch carefully to see how many steps/rungs each moves.
As soon as I say "Sea Ranger," both men stare at each other, and after a few seconds Tony grins. "Yes!" Tony yells, "That's it!" He excitedly scrambles up the ladder and perches at the top. Bill paces toward me a few steps, then spins around and walks away, then back towards me. "I'm satisfied as well," says Bill.

Must be George VI instead of George the sixth, eh? Any chance what the connection we're looking for has something to do with writing or something written? "Oh yes," mutters Bill.

Ooh, is it crosswords? The NY Times crossword? Bill and Tony break into broad smiles. "YES!" they both yell out at the same time. Tony climbs down off of the ladder and walks up to me, then places a hand on my shoulder. Bill approaches me, stops, then waves his hand around in a circle. "So," Bill says, "have you figured out the point of all of this?"
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Oh, right, you typically can't use numbers in crosswords.

Sorry for not asking questions, I've been utterly stuck. Anyway...


Across/down clues? Length of the answer?
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Oh, right, you typically can't use numbers in crosswords. "That's right!" says Tony.

Sorry for not asking questions, I've been utterly stuck. Anyway..."No problem, I think you're about done here," Bill says.

Across/down clues? Both Bill and Tony nod. "Yes, and what about them?" asks Tony.
Length of the answer? Bill shakes his head and says, "The length really doesn't matter, just tell us why we do what we do, and what exactly is in here (he taps his head).
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Well, for across clues, Tony would move up/down to the correct row in the coordinate system, then Bill would move across the number of letters in the answer. (I can't remember if there were any moments where Bill moved before Tony, but that would be the down clues, and would work in the opposite way, Bill moving to a spot in the coordinate sytem equivalent to the correct column, and Tony moving the number of letters in the answer.)

Do we need to figure out why those specific clues were unknown? Anything else we need to figure out?
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Crosswords! Bravo Kalira!
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clevur Kalira kitteh!!! *givz cheezburgur* =)
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"Of course," says Tony with a smile, "it's crosswords! Bill and I have amazing memories, and we have memorized the grids and clues for the last year's worth of puzzles from the New York Times. We both memorize the grids, I keep up with all of the 'Down' clues and Bill keeps up with the 'Across' clues." Bill adds, "Which is why I pace and he goes up and down the ladder. As we discuss topics, in my mind I'm filling in answers that go across and pacing as I do so. Tony is filling in answers that go down, and moving up and down on the ladder as he does so."

"Remember, we told you it was in here," says Tony as he taps his head, "all the crossword grids and clues are stored in here, we just needed a little help with some answers we didn't know. But you've correctly announced that crosswords puzzles are the point of all of this." He and Bill look at each other, reach into their pockets and each take out a key. "Follow us, please," says Bill as he walks to the door. He and Tony each insert their keys and turn them, then Bill turns the door handle and the door opens...into a large room with a high ceiling, several windows along each wall allowing much light into the room. There are many people in this room, and I notice that much of the floor is covered by exercise mats (like a place where gymnastics would take place). The room is about the size of a football field and the same shape as one. The door through which I entered is centered on one of the long walls, so I'm facing the other long wall. The floor just inside the door does not have mats on it, it is wooden planked floor. After a few feet into the room the mats begin to cover the floor and continue most of the way across width and length of the room.

As the people in the room realize that Tony, Bill and I have entered, they all run towards us, applauding. Many of them (some men, some women, some kids) pat me on the back and say things like, "Nice going!" and "Well done!" Another man approaches us, he is dressed like a referee (black and white striped shirt, black pants, white hat) and he is carrying a canvas bag. He motions for Tony to follow him, and the two of them walk towards the opposite wall. When they reach the wall, the referee opens the bag, removes something from it and hands the object to Tony. As Tony examines the object (which I can't see), Bill says, "You should get acquainted." As he walks toward a chair in a corner of the room, the group of people form a line next to me. Then 6 of the people step out of the line and form a circle around me, while the others turn and walk to a table in another corner of the room. One by one, the six people around me introduce themselves:

"I'm Russ," says the first. He wears a red shirt, looks about 18 years old, is tall, has blonde hair.

"I'm Bis," says the next. She looks about 40 years old, seems to be Samoan, has long black hair pulled into a ponytail. She wears a blue shirt.

"I'm Wes," says the next. He looks about 10 years old, wears glasses, speaks with a British accent, has brown hair. He wears a white shirt.

"I'm Opus," says the next. She looks to be in her 30's, very dark skin, short dark hair, has a thick accent of some kind. She wears an orange shirt.

"I'm Yves," says the next. He seems to be the oldest, probably in his 60's, gray hair and moustache, French accent. He wears a yellow shirt.

"I'm Gus," says the next. Australian accent, a teenager, long curly brown hair pulled into a ponytail. He wears a green shirt.

All 6 of them, as well as everyone else that was already in the room, are wearing black pants.

Tony had handed the object back to the referee, who puts the object into the bag and walks to the corner where Bill is seated. A curtain is drawn around Bill so that I can no longer see him. The referee pushes the curtain aside and hands the bag to Bill. Tony is now seated at a table near the door I entered. There's an empty seat next to him, and the referee points to me and then to the empty seat. I walk to the table and sit down next to Tony. On the table in front of Tony is a microphone. The referee walks to the middle of the room and blows a whistle. The 6 people I met form a line behind the referee. The other people (each of which wears a shirt the same color as the different people I met) are huddled in a corner. The referee says, "Ok, ladies and gentlemen. It's time to find out why we are here!" Everyone cheers as music begins to play. I recognize this song, it's 'Funkytown'.

The referee blows a long toot on his whistle, then runs to the place where Bill is seated. Tony leans forward and says into the microphone, "Gus, two left." Gus immediately takes a few steps forward, then does 2 cartwheels to the left. The referee glances behind the curtain, then after a few seconds he points toward the large group in the corner. He makes some gestures and numbers with his fingers, and 8 people from the group run out and stand around Gus. Tony covers the microphone with his hand, looks at me and says, "Now feel free to help with this any time."
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NOTE: Although no one picked up on it at first, the basic lateral connection in the first room was moving across (Bill), moving down (Tony), and providing information, which is done in a crossword puzzle. It is possible to make very short work of this second room as well. If you sense that you have the answer before many questions/suggestions have been made, kindly e-mail me or otherwise avoid $poiling.

Thank you!
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Can you tell what gestures and numbers the referee made, or are you too far away to tell? Is there any significance to the fact that all the people we met in this new room have names ending in S? Can we tell how many people of each shirt color are present?

Try telling Gus "one left" and see what happens.
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Nice job, Balin!

Can you tell what gestures and numbers the referee made, or are you too far away to tell? Well it is hard to see specifically what he did from where I'm sitting. It looked like sign language and also some baseball signals mixed together.

Is there any significance to the fact that all the people we met in this new room have names ending in S? I asked Tony this, and he laughed and said, "Don't get too hung up on that, those aren't their real names, they just used them so you could more easily keep up with who is who:

Russ = Red shirt (RS)
Bis = Blue shirt (BS)

I think you probably get the idea.


Can we tell how many people of each shirt color are present? Yes, a quick count shows there to be 9 people of each shirt color, including the 6 that I personally met. This makes a total of 54 people wearing colored shirts.

Try telling Gus "one left" and see what happens.
I lean over to the microphone and say, "Gus, one left." Gus nods, then he and the other 8 people around him do a cartwheel to their left. Behind them, the rest of the people in colored shirts arrange themselves into 5 groups, with one of the 6 leaders standing in the middle of each group, each group includes 9 people, seemingly randomly mixed.
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Had a hunch, which your answers appear to have confirmed. Emailed.
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Your hunch was correct! Great job!
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emailed a guess
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And the guess was right! We'll go ahead and wrap this one up soon unless there's someone out there that hasn't yet made the connection...
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****** SPOILER ******
"Hey, I think I know what's going on," I say. Tony holds up a hand, the music stops and everyone looks at me. "Well?" says Tony. "I think that you and Bill are solving a Rubik's cube, and the people in the colored shirts represent each colored square on the cube. Bill is holding the cube and turning it as you direct him to, and the people in the colored shirts are acting out the moves. Is that right?"

A few seconds of silence, then everyone breaks into cheers as the referee holds up his arms in a "touchdown" signal. Tony pats me on the back and says, "In addition to memorizing crosswords, I can memorize the position of a mixed-up Rubik's cube and solve it in my mind while someone else manipulates the actual cube. The ref was making sure that Bill followed my directions as I gave them, then signalling to the acrobats what moves to make." Bill emerges from behind the curtain, walks over to me and shakes my hand. "Well done," he says, "I expected this room to take some time, but I underestimated your skills," he says with a grin. "Well not mine," I say, "I had some help."

So I stand up and exit through a door which I hadn't noticed before, and 'Funkytown' gradually fades out. "Why 'Funkytown'?" I ask. "That came out in 1980, same year as the Rubik's Cube," says Bill, "that was a clue in case you needed it."

As I walk away, perhaps onto the next adventure, I hear the ref mutter, "I knew that one was too easy. And the first room? I'm surprised it took that long...this is an 'Ixoye' adventure, right? Don't they all have something to do with either crosswords, coffee or explosions?"



Great work by all involved, and nice quick solutions by Balin, Noel and Kalira at the end!
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unfortunately I do not know Ixoye adventures that well yet! *giggles* conversely, Kaylee adventures often have to do with kittehs and cheezburgurz...at least lately. =P
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All right -- perhaps on to the next one indeed!

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