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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, September 16, 2011 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man hit two home runs and saved another man's life.
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Baseball relevant?

Man #1 H? A? M?
Man #2 H? A? M?
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Life saved: from death? From misfortune? From death by: accident? Murder? Suicide? Disease? Violence? Poison?
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Did the two things happen simultaneously (the home runs and the life-saving)?
Was the man who hit the home runs a baseball player?
Were the 2 home runs hit during the course of 1 baseball game? Over a period of time?
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Baseball relevant? Yes

Man #1 H? A? M? Yes
Man #2 H? A? M? Yes

Life saved: from death? Yes From misfortune? From death by: accident? Murder? This Suicide? Disease? Violence? Poison?

Did the two things happen simultaneously (the home runs and the life-saving)? No
Was the man who hit the home runs a baseball player? No
Were the 2 home runs hit during the course of 1 baseball game? No Over a period of time? Yes
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Ok, can we call Man #1 Joshua, and Man #2 Matt?

If so, did Joshua save Matt's life after HR #1 but before HR #2? After both of them? Before both of them?

Was Joshua playing baseball, even though he wasn't a (professional) baseball player? Was Matt playing baseball? Was Matt watching baseball? Hit by a baseball?

Are there any, um, euphemisms present in this puzzle? Or is it strictly PG-rated? (there is a death in it, anyway)
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Ok, can we call Man #1 Joshua, and Man #2 Matt? OK

If so, did Joshua save Matt's life after HR #1 but before HR #2? After both of them? This Before both of them?

Was Joshua playing baseball, even though he wasn't a (professional) baseball player? Was Matt playing baseball? Both Joshua and Matt were playing professionally Was Matt watching baseball? No Hit by a baseball? No

Are there any, um, euphemisms present in this puzzle? Not at all Or is it strictly PG-rated? (there is a death in it, anyway) It may be PG-13 for violence, but there's nothing off-color.
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BLOOPER: In answer to Ixoye's question, the man who hit the home runs is, in fact, a baseball player, as the last set of answers has shown. My bad.
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Did the ball itself save the life? The score? The noise from the crowd?
Did the murderer change his/her mind? Or was (s)he stopped somehow?
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If he hadn't hit two home runs, would he still have been able to save the other man's life? If not, is it because he would have been somewhere else at the time?
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Did the ball itself save the life? No The score? Yope/Yesish The noise from the crowd? No
Did the murderer change his/her mind? Or was (s)he stopped somehow? NO to both!
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If he hadn't hit two home runs, would he still have been able to save the other man's life? No, possible slight FA If not, is it because Yope he would have been somewhere else at the time? Yes
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Was someone else murdered instead?
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Was someone else murdered instead? Yesish
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Was Joshua himself the murderer?
If either man had not been playing professionally (say they were on a company team) would Matt's life still have been saved?
Is the motive for the murder relevant?
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Was Joshua himself the murderer? No
If either man had not been playing professionally (say they were on a company team) would Matt's life still have been saved? The circumstances would have been entirely different; the puzzle would not work if it had not been professional baseball.
Is the motive for the murder relevant? Yes. In fact there's a better word than "murder."
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Manslaughter?
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Manslaughter? No
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Homicide?
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Homicide? Also not the right word
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Euthanasia? Hit-and-run?

Motive: money? jealousy? anger? something to do with romantic relationships? someone just enjoys hurting/killing others? to keep the victim from doing something?
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Euthanasia? Hit-and-run? Neither

Motive: money? jealousy? anger? something to do with romantic relationships? someone just enjoys hurting/killing others? Yopish to this, No to rest to keep the victim from doing something?

Some common questions you haven't asked will help you.
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True story? Fictional? FYOI?

Is gambling involved?
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True story? This Fictional? FYOI?

Is gambling involved? No
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LTPF lists:
Continent/country?
Century/decade?
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LTPF lists:
Continent/country? United States
Century/decade? 2000s
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Is the team from:
AL? AK? AZ? AR? CA? CO? CT? DE? FL? GA?
HI? ID? IL? IN? IA? KS? KY? LA? ME? MD?
MA? MI? MN? MS? MO? MT? NE? NV? NH? NJ?
NM? NY? NC? ND? OH? OK? OR? PA? RI? SC?
SD? TN? TX? UT? VT? VA? WA? WV? WI? WY?

A U.S. territory or similar?
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Is the team from: Connecticut. That's as specific as you need to go location-wise.
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Minor or major league? (I've been assuming major, and we all know what assumptions do...*pokes self for creating last puzzle on an FA* *face-pawz*)
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Minor or major league? Minor league (I've been assuming major, and we all know what assumptions do...*pokes self for creating last puzzle on an FA* *face-pawz*)
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Did Joshua and Matt play for the same team?
Are their positions relevant? Was either of them a pitcher?
Is there a 3rd person involved? Others as well?
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Was the period of time separating the two home runs... several weeks? within a single season? a year or two? more?

Relevant whether there were other players on base for the specific home runs involved? Were the home runs actually during games -- or during exhibitions, batting practice, etc.?

Something to do with running the basepaths relevant? The celebration at the plate?

Were the games televised? Radio broadcast?

Anything to do with being promoted/demoted to the majors relevant?

I take it the man hitting the home runs did not KNOW he was saving anyone's life, nor did he intend to...?

Was the prospective victim's life half-saved after the first home run? (I don't know what that question means, but maybe the answer will help :-)
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Did Joshua and Matt play for the same team? Yes
Are their positions relevant? No Was either of them a pitcher? Matt was but irrel
Is there a 3rd person involved? Others are involved, but not as much in the "baseball" bit Others as well? See prev

Was the period of time separating the two home runs... several weeks? within a single season? a year or two? more? Only a day or two (relevant), so obviously the same season (relevant)

Relevant whether there were other players on base for the specific home runs involved? No Were the home runs actually during games Yes -- or during exhibitions, batting practice, etc.?

Something to do with running the basepaths relevant? The celebration at the plate? Neither

Were the games televised? Radio broadcast? Irrel to both

Anything to do with being promoted/demoted to the majors relevant? No

I take it the man hitting the home runs did not KNOW he was saving anyone's life, nor did he intend to...? Correct, and important

Was the prospective victim's life half-saved after the first home run? No, both HRs were needed (HR = home run for all you non-baseball-followers (I don't know what that question means, but maybe the answer will help :-)
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Longshot- was Matt hit with a ball at any point, then taken to the hospital or somewhere else where the murderer couldn't get to him?
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Longshot- was Matt hit with a ball at any point, then taken to the hospital or somewhere else where the murderer couldn't get to him? No

HINT: The murderer(s - there was more than one) were not targeting him specifically.
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Was the target contingent on the home runs? Such as, "IF Joshua hits two home runs this season, we won't kill his buddy Matt. But if he doesn't....we'll get him!!!"? I know that sounds silly, but I'm gathering information.

Was the murder going to be attempted after the first home run? After the second?
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Was the target contingent on the home runs? Such as, "IF Joshua hits two home runs this season, we won't kill his buddy Matt. But if he doesn't....we'll get him!!!"? Nothing like this, no I know that sounds silly, but I'm gathering information.

Was the murder going to be attempted after the first home run? After the second? After both, but a few days after. In fact, the murder was not only attempted, but...
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Was the motive for the murder revenge? To prevent something from happening in the future? To make some kind of statement? To intimidate someone, or a group of people?

Did the murderer(s) personally know Matt? Joshua?

So, even though Joshua was not killed, someone else was? Another baseball player? Someone present at the game? Someone not at the game?
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How about Pete and Jude for the murderer(s)?
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Was the motive for the murder revenge? The murderers claim it was this To prevent something from happening in the future? To make some kind of statement? And this To intimidate someone, or a group of people? Many other people say it was this

Did the murderer(s) personally know Matt? Joshua? NO

So, even though Joshua was not killed, someone else was? Yes; actually, multiple people were killed. Another baseball player? Someone present at the game? Someone not at the game? Many people not at the game. It's possible that someone there was killed but I don't know.
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How about Pete and Jude for the murderer(s)? FA! There were more than 2 murderers
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kaylee kitteh hates teh FA's... were there 3 murderers? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? more? o.o
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kaylee kitteh hates teh FA's... were there 3 murderers? 4? 5? 6? 7? 8? 9? 10? more? o.o Moar
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between 10 and 50? 50 and 100? 100 and 1000? moar?
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between 10 and 50? This 50 and 100? 100 and 1000? moar?
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So it was a mob of people that killed a person?
People that were angry with Matt? Angry with Joshua? Angry with both of them?
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So it was a mob of people No! that killed a person? Many people!
People that were angry with Matt? Angry with Joshua? Angry with both of them? No to all
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Were police involved in any capacity?
Were the killings all done within the same area?
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Were police involved in any capacity? Yes
Were the killings all done within the same area? In 3 areas

Come on, you all really should know this...at least the killings bit...
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a riot? I's a confuseded kitteh, Balin...=/ Anything to do with fans getting hurt by each other at a game? *wonders how the Giants fan is doing now* =(
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a riot? No I's a confuseded kitteh, Balin...=/ Anything to do with fans getting hurt by each other at a game? No *wonders how the Giants fan is doing now* =( Don't know -- haven't had any updates recently.
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So this involves a minor league team from CT and another team also?
Were the home runs hit during a playoff or season-ending championship?
Were innocent people killed? Guilty people?
Did Matt's team win the games during which the home runs were hit? Lose the games? Win one, lose one?
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a riot? No I's a confuseded kitteh, Balin...=/ Anything to do with fans getting hurt by each other at a game? No *wonders how the Giants fan is doing now* =( Don't know -- haven't had any updates recently.
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Sorry about the double-post: file-locking errors really screw up posting on Macs.

So this involves a minor league team from CT and another team also? Yes
Were the home runs hit during a playoff or season-ending championship? GREAT question! They were hit during a playoff series.
Were innocent people killed? THIS ONE Guilty people?
Did Matt's team win the games during which the home runs were hit? Lose the games? Win one, lose one? They won both -- great q!
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Wow, stumbled onto something...

Did winning the games cause Matt's team to win the playoff? In straight games? Had the other team won prior games against Matt's team, and Matt's team went on a streak and took the series? This angered fans of the opposing team, who did something that caused deaths of people?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wow, stumbled onto something...

Did winning the games cause Matt's team to win the playoff? Yes In straight games? Yope -- see next answer Had the other team won prior games against Matt's team, and Matt's team went on a streak and took the series? Yes -- they had lost the first game of the series, but won the next three with the help of Joshua's home runs This angered fans of the opposing team, who did something that caused deaths of people? Totally incorrect
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the other team murder the innocent people?

The murderers: Human? Adult? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two?

The innocent people: Human? Adults? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two?

Method of murder relevant? If so, shooting? explosives? poison? stabbing? asphyxiation?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the other team murder the innocent people? No

The murderers: Human? Adult? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two? All HAM

The innocent people: Human? Adults? Children? Several ages? Males? Females? Mixture of the two? Mixture of all of these (all humans)

Method of murder relevant? Yes If so, shooting? explosives? poison? stabbing? asphyxiation? Explosions, crushing, asphyxiation, and a handful of other things. Probably some blunt trauma in there as well.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they all murdered at once? At separate times?

Is this scenario close: the murderers planted explosives in a building or other structure, which exploded, killing the victims in manner you described (explosion, crushing, asphyxiation, blunt trauma, etc.)?
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Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they all murdered at once? At separate times? In the course of one day

Is this scenario close: the murderers planted explosives in a building or other structure, No which exploded, Yesish/Yope killing the victims in manner you described (explosion, crushing, asphyxiation, blunt trauma, etc.)? Yes
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Was this an act of terrorism? (feel like i should remember it if it was) Random serial killer?
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Was this an act of terrorism? YES (feel like i should remember it if it was) Random serial killer? No
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9/11 relevant?
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9/11 relevant? A very big YES.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 4:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ahhh...would Joshua have been on one of the planes if not for the home runs that extended the series?
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Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 4:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ahhh...would Joshua I think you mean "Matt" have been on one of the planes if not for the home runs that extended the series? Yep.

**********SPOILER**********

"Joshua" is Michael Cuddyer, Twins right fielder. "Matt" is Brad Thomas, Tigers pitcher. In 2001, they were teammates on the New Britain Rock Cats (the Twins' AA minor league affiliate), and were in the first round of the playoffs. Cuddyer hit two key home runs that helped the Rock Cats win the series and move on to the final round of the playoffs. In Cuddyer's words:

"We knew that we were in the playoffs, but had we lost in the first round, the season would have been over Sept. 9. Brad had booked his flight for Sept. 11. He was not the only one who booked a flight that day, but he was the only one who was booked on the flight that took a detour off of its route from Boston to LA, right into the World Trade Center."

The puzzle title is the first line of a poem about 9/11 that I found online.

Nice work everyone, especially Tardigradeparty for a key leap, Kaylee for the connection, and Ixoye for putting it all together. Here are the links: the general article and the one in Cuddyer's words. May we never forget.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 6:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Where were you when the world stopped turning
On that September day?

(No link to the song, but I'm sure Balin will provide if he wishes. I was asleep when the attacks happened, as I'm 3 hours earlier than the East Coast, but I was in school when I found out, just before lunch, in my U.S. History class. It was my aunt's 41st birthday. Despite declaring she never wanted another birthday, she turned 51 this year...)

What a lucky escape for "Matt"!! Thanks to Matt (Balin, not "Matt") for posting the puzzle!!
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Where were you when the world stopped turning
On that September day?


a) I'm not sure what song you're referring to, but...
b) I was in school. They called an assembly to tell us what had happened. Everything about that day other than the assembly is a blur, but we didn't get to leave early, I remember that.

Link to the poem (it's the first one): http://www.9-11heroes.us/911-memorial-poems-c.php
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Very good puzzle, good statement and nice idea. We all remember where we were on that day, and it's interesting to read about people who, like Brad, avoided being in danger due to circumstances that kept them from being on those planes.
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Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - 4:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The song is called "Where Were You When The World Stopped Turning?" and is a song about 9/11. kaylee kitteh happenz to be country song fan. Our local country station, KRTY, played the song *a lot* that September, following the attacks, along with songs like "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue", and "Have You Forgotten?" (which came out some months later, when people were beginning to criticize the war in Afghanistan).
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Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was in school, too. I was in a typing class when they told us. But they didn't tell us much.

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