| Author | Message | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 671 Registered: 6-2009 |
[b]The man who couldn't be found.[b] | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14819 Registered: 4-2010 |
Man: H? A? M? Did he want to be found? By a relevant someone? Did someone want to find him? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 674 Registered: 6-2009 |
Sorry, the first post messed up .... Man: H? A? M? yesish to all Did he want to be found? no By a relevant someone? Did someone want to find him? yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4393 Registered: 9-2009 |
Found: physically located? Found in a register of some sort? Or database? Is he alive? Is it a true story? Was he never found? did something bad happen to him? Did he do something bad? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 676 Registered: 6-2009 |
Found: physically located? yes Found in a register of some sort? no Or database? no Is he alive? no Is it a true story? yes Was he never found? yes did something bad happen to him? yes Did he do something bad? yes | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 3469 Registered: 1-2001 |
Ok, now I see where your post was supposed to go! Was the man a criminal? Was he never found because he chose to hide? Because he was taken against his will? Did he drown? Did his body end up in a place that people would consider inaccesible? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 677 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was the man a criminal? yes Was he never found because he chose to hide? no Because he was taken against his will? no Did he drown? no Did his body end up in a place that people would consider inaccesible? no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 156 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did he die? after going into hiding? If so, Was his death directly related to his crime? Was it indirectly related to his crime? Is the type of crime relevant? Did this happen in recent times (last 50 years)? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 678 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did he die? no after going into hiding? If so, Was his death directly related to his crime? Was it indirectly related to his crime? Is the type of crime relevant? yes Did this happen in recent times (last 50 years)? yes | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 160 Registered: 8-2011 |
Technology relevant? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 680 Registered: 6-2009 |
Technology relevant? not really | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14822 Registered: 4-2010 |
Crime: Murder? Theft? Fraud? Arson? Manslaughter? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 681 Registered: 6-2009 |
Crime: Murder? Theft? Fraud? Arson? Manslaughter? none of these | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14838 Registered: 4-2010 |
Kidnapping? Terrorism? Treason? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 685 Registered: 6-2009 |
Kidnapping? Terrorism? Treason? None of these. It's a pretty minor crime. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14845 Registered: 4-2010 |
Jaywalking? Speeding? Something related to a vehicle? To driving one? DUI? Recklessness? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 687 Registered: 6-2009 |
Jaywalking? no Speeding? yes Something related to a vehicle? yes To driving one? yes DUI? maybe Recklessness? yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1912 Registered: 2-2011 |
so he was guilty of speeding? someone was looking for him? he couldn't be found? he didn't die at the time? but has subsequently died? was the speeding offence caught on camera? detected by radar? seen by a policeman? was he speeding in a car? did he ditch his vehicle? disguise it? was it his own vehicle? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 691 Registered: 6-2009 |
so he was guilty of speeding? yes someone was looking for him? yes he couldn't be found? yes he didn't die at the time? yes but has subsequently died? no was the speeding offence caught on camera? probably detected by radar? no seen by a policeman? maybe was he speeding in a car? yes did he ditch his vehicle? no disguise it? no was it his own vehicle? most likely | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14849 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the license plate relevant? The color of the car? Make? Model? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 692 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is the license plate relevant? The color of the car? Make? Model? All irrelevant. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1919 Registered: 2-2011 |
but you did say he isn't alive, so has he never been alive? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 694 Registered: 6-2009 |
but you did say he isn't alive, so has he never been alive? yes Remember I did say "yesish" For the HAM question. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 186 Registered: 8-2011 |
Fictional character? Believed to be real by anyone? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 697 Registered: 6-2009 |
Fictional character? Believed to be real by anyone? yes, yes! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1924 Registered: 2-2011 |
sherlock holmes has to be the fictional character most widely believed to be real. doesn't sound a likely candidate for this though | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 203 Registered: 8-2011 |
Is he a(n) character from a book? a movie? a TV show? persona that originated on the Internet? persona purposely made up by someone else? for fun? for gain? famous person? worldwide? nationwide? locally? alternate personality of a real person? Believed to be real by police? fans? the general public? scholars and/or researchers? Would someone today still think he was real? alive? Is era relevant at all? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 699 Registered: 6-2009 |
sherlock holmes has to be the fictional character most widely believed to be real. doesn't sound a likely candidate for this though no Is he a(n) character from a book? a movie? a TV show? none of these persona that originated on the Internet? no persona purposely made up by someone else? for fun? for gain? no, no, no famous person? worldwide? nationwide? locally? no, no, noish, noish (ish because he could be known for the premise of this puzzle.) alternate personality of a real person? no Believed to be real by police? yes fans? no the general public? no scholars and/or researchers? no Would someone today still think he was real? probably not alive? probably not Is era relevant at all? no Good questions! | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 700 Registered: 6-2009 |
To avoid confusion, I took "fictional" to mean "not real", so it's not necessarily a character from literature. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1936 Registered: 2-2011 |
was this an identity made up by the perp? made up by the police? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 704 Registered: 6-2009 |
was this an identity made up by the perp? made up by the police? no, no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 206 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was a real crime committed at all? Did the situation make it seem as though the person existed, even though no such person did? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 706 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was a real crime committed at all? yes Did the situation make it seem as though the person existed, even though no such person did? yes! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4411 Registered: 9-2010 |
identity theft? an alias made up by somebody? social security relevant? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 707 Registered: 6-2009 |
identity theft? an alias made up by somebody? social security relevant? no, no, no | ||
| Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2011 |
Are we talking about a specific, named fictional person (e.g. Count Dracula, Batman, etc.) or a generic fictional type (e.g., elf, hobbit, vampire, zombie)? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 709 Registered: 6-2009 |
Are we talking about a specific, named fictional person (e.g. Count Dracula, Batman, etc.) or a generic fictional type (e.g., elf, hobbit, vampire, zombie)? No, no. | ||
| Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp Post Number: 57 Registered: 9-2011 |
A dummy/mannequin? Anything to do with driving in the high-occupancy commuter lanes? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 714 Registered: 6-2009 |
A dummy/mannequin? no Anything to do with driving in the high-occupancy commuter lanes? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14928 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the crime committed to frame a fictional character? A previously-existing fictional character? Hang on, I have a thought...does the crime involve embezzlement? Fraud? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 715 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was the crime committed to frame a fictional character? no A previously-existing fictional character? no Hang on, I have a thought...does the crime involve embezzlement? Fraud? no and no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1950 Registered: 2-2011 |
not The Fugitive? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 716 Registered: 6-2009 |
not The Fugitive? Never seen it but I don't think so. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 220 Registered: 8-2011 |
One person commits a crime but it looks like two did it, leaving us with one real criminal and one fictional one.- Was it something like that? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 718 Registered: 6-2009 |
One person commits a crime but it looks like two did it, leaving us with one real criminal and one fictional one.- Was it something like that? Well yes, except it only looked like one person did it. | ||
| Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp Post Number: 59 Registered: 9-2011 |
Did he/she disguise himself/herself? Traffic cams relevant? Forged/fraudulent documents relevant? Tolls or tollbooth plazas relevant? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 719 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did he/she disguise himself/herself? Traffic cams relevant? Forged/fraudulent documents relevant? Tolls or tollbooth plazas relevant? All no | ||
| Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp Post Number: 60 Registered: 9-2011 |
ooh... shot in the dark: anything like -- young kid drives car (like 7 -- I've seen stories where this happened). Maybe sitting on a telephone directory... speeding ensues, or an accident... Police put out a bulletin for the "man driving car"... But when they arrive, there's just a kid. No man was ever there. Anything like that? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 720 Registered: 6-2009 |
anything like -- young kid drives car (like 7 -- I've seen stories where this happened). Maybe sitting on a telephone directory... speeding ensues, or an accident... Police put out a bulletin for the "man driving car"... But when they arrive, there's just a kid. No man was ever there. Anything like that? nope, but it's a good idea | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2626 Registered: 2-2001 |
Did the police have a name for the non-existent person? If so, is it relevant how they determined that? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 731 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did the police have a name for the non-existent person? If so, is it relevant how they determined that? You're exactly right! Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14962 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the police think the non-existent person actually existed? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1956 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it a forename and surname? or an adjective and a noun? like the phantom speeder? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 734 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did the police think the non-existent person actually existed? Yes was it a forename and surname? no or an adjective and a noun? no like the phantom speeder? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14992 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is an alias relevant? Did other people than the police think the fictional person existed? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 740 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is an alias relevant? yesish Did other people than the police think the fictional person existed? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1982 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the vehicle registered to a false name? did the vehicle have a name painted on the side? did it have a personalised numberplate? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 742 Registered: 6-2009 |
was the vehicle registered to a false name? did the vehicle have a name painted on the side? did it have a personalised numberplate? no to all | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1997 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the police make a false assumption about the man's identity? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 743 Registered: 6-2009 |
did the police make a false assumption about the man's identity? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15034 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a misspelling relevant? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 744 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is a misspelling relevant? no... | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2002 Registered: 2-2011 |
was something misheard? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 747 Registered: 6-2009 |
was something misheard? no.. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2004 Registered: 2-2011 |
misread? mispronounced? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 748 Registered: 6-2009 |
misread? no but OTRT mispronounced? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15042 Registered: 4-2010 |
Mistyped? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 749 Registered: 6-2009 |
Mistyped? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4429 Registered: 9-2009 |
Misprinted? Is writing relevant? Did anyone intend to mislead the police? Or to mislead anyone else? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2051 Registered: 2-2011 |
miscommunicated? did someone pass on the correct name and get it wrong or were misunderstood? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 773 Registered: 6-2009 |
Misprinted? no Is writing relevant? no Did anyone intend to mislead the police? no Or to mislead anyone else? no miscommunicated? no did someone pass on the correct name and get it wrong or were misunderstood? no but OTRT | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15121 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the identity of a different person given to the police? Is identity theft relevant? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 774 Registered: 6-2009 |
Was the identity of a different person given to the police? Is identity theft relevant? no to both | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 256 Registered: 8-2011 |
Would you mind giving a recap? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 775 Registered: 6-2009 |
*****RECAP***** There is a man who the Police thought was real, but did not exist. The Police were looking for him but they couldn't find him (because he was not real). He was convicted of traffic violations, which actually happened. No misspelling/mishearing/misreading (OTRT)/mistyping/miscommunication. No-one was trying to mislead anybody, identity theft not relevant. Hints: The Police had a name for him, and it is relevant how they determined it. The name was not a forename and surname or an adjective and a noun. "did someone pass on the correct name and get it wrong or were misunderstood?" This is almost correct. *****BLOOPER***** I'm sorry! Was the identity of a different person given to the police? Yes | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 271 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did someone give a descriptor, such as "tall fellow", and the descriptor was mistaken as a name (as in, Mr. Tawlfallow)? Did the informant give the information as (s)he meant to? Or did (s)he misspeak? Did the informant get his/her information wrong to begin with? Did the informant give the correct information? Was it mistaken by the recipient? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 776 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did someone give a descriptor, such as "tall fellow", and the descriptor was mistaken as a name (as in, Mr. Tawlfallow)? No Did the informant give the information as (s)he meant to? yes Or did (s)he misspeak? no Did the informant get his/her information wrong to begin with? no Did the informant give the correct information? yes Was it mistaken by the recipient? yes Also slight FA. | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 282 Registered: 8-2011 |
Informant H/A/M? Recipient H/A/M? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 782 Registered: 6-2009 |
Informant H/A/M? {yesish} Recipient H/A/M? yesish You still have the FA | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4566 Registered: 9-2010 |
kaylee kitteh does not like FAs...can haz hint please? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 785 Registered: 6-2009 |
There are multiple informants and recipients. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15247 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the informants all say the same thing? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 787 Registered: 6-2009 |
Did the informants all say the same thing? no, FA | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15254 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were the informants all informing on the same thing? To the same recipients? At the same time? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 795 Registered: 6-2009 |
Were the informants all informing on the same thing? no To the same recipients? noish At the same time? no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 301 Registered: 8-2011 |
Were the recipients part of the same group? Were they police officers? Did the information come in on different days? Different weeks? Months? Years? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2142 Registered: 2-2011 |
were the informants cameras? licence plate readers? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 797 Registered: 6-2009 |
Were the recipients part of the same group? Were they police officers? yes, yes Did the information come in on different days? Different weeks? Months? this most likely Years? were the informants cameras? licence plate readers? neither | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 306 Registered: 8-2011 |
Were all informants human? To be clear, the informants gave the correct information, but the recipients did not take down the correct information. Is this accurate? Did the recipients misunderstand? miscommunicate with one another? Was the mistake on the part of the recipients? Someone else (such as a receptionist or supervisor)? Something else (such as a malfunctioning telephone)? Has the FA been cleared? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 802 Registered: 6-2009 |
Were all informants human? yes To be clear, the informants gave the correct information, but the recipients did not take down the correct information. Is this accurate? Yes Did the recipients misunderstand? yesish miscommunicate with one another? no Was the mistake on the part of the recipients? no Someone else (such as a receptionist or supervisor)? no Something else (such as a malfunctioning telephone)? no Has the FA been cleared? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15272 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the recipients communicate with each other at all? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2164 Registered: 2-2011 |
is language relevant? is this where a whole police force were looking for someone called whatever is the Polish for driving licence? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15281 Registered: 4-2010 |
I remember reading about that, Shez. I bet that's it. | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 804 Registered: 6-2009 |
Yeah Shez got it. Thanks everyone for bearing with it. #####SPOILER##### Here's an article about it. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2173 Registered: 2-2011 |
yay! great puzzle Quovynyte, and the clues were all there. thanks | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 332 Registered: 8-2011 |
Oh, my. What an amazing story! Thank you for sharing! |
