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Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 12:47 am: |      |
If it's supposed to be a secret, why is he running around yelling it for all to hear?
By the way, I am returning after a long absence. Looooooong absence. Warm hellos to anyone here who may remember me from oh, around 2003-2004? On the old forum? I don't even remember my handle from then. A couple of my puzzles slipped into one of Paul's books one year. Great fun. I recognize Nimue and a few others. I remember woubit, berorean... Anyway, hi! (I couldn't find an 'introduce yourself' thread here.) My footnote(s) are irrelevant to the puzzle. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14823 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 1:02 am: |      |
Nice to meet you, Jvp! What was your old username? He - H? A? M? Is it supposed to be a secret? Is he literally running around? Yelling? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 5 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 1:14 am: |      |
Balin Nice to meet you, Jvp! What was your old username? Thanks! Amazingly, I simply cannot recall. It might have been JVP. My name is John Van Pelt. It might have been John Van Pelt. ;-) He - H? A? M? human, irrelevant, male (if I have the shorthand right) Is it supposed to be a secret? yes Is he literally running around? Yelling? y, y |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14828 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 1:18 am: |      |
Does he know it's supposed to be a secret? Is the secret about him? About someone he knows? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 1:26 am: |      |
Does he know it's supposed to be a secret? yes Is the secret about him? yes About someone he knows? yes |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 164 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 2:36 am: |      |
Was this something you witnessed? In person? On television? Some other media? Does it have to do with popular culture? A song? A movie? A television show? Was he promoting a product? A service? Does this have to do with love/romance? Is the secret scandalous? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 2:40 am: |      |
Was this something you witnessed? yes In person? yes On television? Some other media? Does it have to do with popular culture? A song? A movie? A television show? Was he promoting a product? A service? Does this have to do with love/romance? Is the secret scandalous? no to all the rest |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 2:42 am: |      |
clarification from upthread (to forestall a possible false assumption): Is the secret about him? yesish About someone he knows? yesish |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 168 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 3:59 am: |      |
Did this occur in a public setting? In a private one? Your home? Someone's home? A private business or office? A vehicle? Was there a logical reason for his yelling? Was he impaired in some way? Mental illness? Drunk? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 4:43 am: |      |
Did this occur in a public setting? yes In a private one? no Your home? yesish Someone's home? A private business or office? A vehicle? no, no, no Was there a logical reason for his yelling? YES Was he impaired in some way? Mental illness? Drunk? no, no, no |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 4:53 am: |      |
Did this occur in a public setting? yes In a private one? no Your home? yesish Someone's home? A private business or office? A vehicle? no, no, no Was there a logical reason for his yelling? YES Was he impaired in some way? Mental illness? Drunk? no, no, no |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 169 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 5:29 am: |      |
Was he trying to get someone's attention? Was there any danger? Was he telling his own secret? Someone else's? Is this a secret I could have? If I had it, would I be upset that this person was yelling it out like that? If you had been in the same situation as this man, would you have acted in the same manner? Would most people have done the same? Have most people been in that situation? Was there a lot of other noise (traffic, weather, etc.)? Was that the reason for his yelling? Was this in your neighborhood? On your street? In your yard? On a sidewalk? Elsewhere on your property? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 682 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 10:43 am: |      |
Can people hear him yelling? Do they now know of the secret? Is he telling people the secret to protect them? Or someone else? Is the man part of an organization? or other group of people? Would any people be angry at him for yelling out the secret? Is it his job to yell out the secret? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 3:23 pm: |      |
Ciaobella Was he trying to get someone's attention? yes Was there any danger? DOYD. For our purposes, not really. Was he telling his own secret? YES Someone else's? no Is this a secret I could have? please clarify If I had it, would I be upset that this person was yelling it out like that? maybe, for some value of 'upset' If you had been in the same situation as this man, would you have acted in the same manner?
first, let's say he IS me. Second, to answer these questions precisely, I need to provide what will amount to a hint. In his situation, yes, I would have yelled what he yelled (because I did ;-) Would most people have done the same? yes, yelled what he yelled Have most people been in that situation? many, many people have, and they would yell something analogous. Was there a lot of other noise (traffic, weather, etc.)? irr Was that the reason for his yelling? no Was this in your neighborhood? YES On your street? YES In your yard? YES On a sidewalk? YES Elsewhere on your property? YES Quovynyte Can people hear him yelling? yes Do they now know of the secret? can you be more precise? Is he telling people the secret to protect them? FA Or someone else? FA Is the man part of an organization? no or other group of people? well.... Would any people be angry at him for yelling out the secret? possible Is it his job to yell out the secret? is he paid to do it? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1909 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 5:01 pm: |      |
is he yelling because he is happy? is the secret that he's become engaged? got a job? a promotion? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 5:13 pm: |      |
Is he playing a game? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 5:57 pm: |      |
Shez is he yelling because he is happy? NO is the secret that he's become engaged? got a job? a promotion? nothing like any of those Ciaobella Is he playing a game? no.... |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14843 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 10:36 pm: |      |
Were you told the secret? Was it supposed to be a secret in the first place? Did you think it was? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 22 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 17, 2011 - 11:58 pm: |      |
Were you told the secret? no Was it supposed to be a secret in the first place? yope -- depending in part on what "it" is Did you think it was? I knew it was a secret, I knew it was supposed to be a secret. However... |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 184 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 4:53 am: |      |
Was this a special occasion? Was the man (you) angry? sad? afraid? excited? nervous? embarrassed? irritated? ill? in pain? naked? in trouble? Did the secret involve: his home? his profession? his body? his family? his property/ belongings? his feelings? an accident? religion? sexuality? something he viewed as positive? negative? neutral? Did he intend to yell out the secret as opposed to simply stating it? To tell someone specific? To tell everyone? To tell any one person? Did he feel embarrassed afterward? relieved? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1915 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 11:08 am: |      |
is he yelling because he's unhappy? drunk? in pain? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 3:49 pm: |      |
Ciaobella Was this a special occasion? no Was the man (you) angry? maybe a bit. not really. sad? no afraid? again possible, but for the sake of argument, no excited? no nervous? no embarrassed? no... irritated? YES ill? no in pain? no naked? no in trouble? no Did the secret involve: his home? YES his profession? no his body? no his family? no his property/belongings? yesish his feelings? no an accident? no religion? no sexuality? no something he viewed as positive? negative? neutral? this is closest Did he intend to yell out the secret as opposed to simply stating it? yes To tell someone specific? To tell everyone? To tell any one person? NO for all three, or FA Did he feel embarrassed afterward? this relieved? Shez is he yelling because he's unhappy? yesish drunk? in pain? no to these |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 5150 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 5:15 pm: |      |
Hi, remember me? Bodo is the only one still active who has been here longer than me! But neither of us are as active as before. I come back every few months. Bodo comes back every few years. I cannot believe that his kid is old enough for scouts! Are you going to tell us all the secret in the spioler? Will this do any further damage, assuming it was damaging to reveal the secret in the first place? Is it your own secret or something that somebody else told you? Are you irritated by it because it compels you to do something? Or because it's painful to know? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 25 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 6:13 pm: |      |
Hi, remember me? Bodo is the only one still active who has been here longer than me! But neither of us are as active as before. I come back every few months. Bodo comes back every few years. I cannot believe that his kid is old enough for scouts! I do! Hi Lynne. Bodo... wow. Time does fly. Are you going to tell us all the secret in the spioler? I will probably change it slightly for the puzzle. Good question. Will this do any further damage, assuming it was damaging to reveal the secret in the first place? Even if I told the secret intact in the spioler, it is very unlikely to cause any problem here. Again, good question. Is it your own secret yes or something that somebody else told you? no Are you irritated by it FA because it compels you to do something? Or because it's painful to know? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14850 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 6:17 pm: |      |
Is he angry about the secret? Sad? Is he yelling to vent his feelings? Is he yelling to someone? At someone? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 6:27 pm: |      |
Is he angry about the secret? NO Sad? no Is he yelling to vent his feelings? NO Is he yelling to someone? YES (with a qualified -ish) At someone? yope, irr to the extent yelling "at" can be combined with yelling "to" |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 5151 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 7:14 pm: |      |
Are you yelling at the TV? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 7:41 pm: |      |
Are you yelling at the TV? no. wrong "-ish" |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1920 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 8:33 pm: |      |
are you yelling at yourself? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 29 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 9:32 pm: |      |
are you yelling at yourself? no |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 5152 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 - 9:42 pm: |      |
Are you yelling at something you've seen or read on your computer? On Facebook or other social network? Has somebody revealed something about you? Got your age wrong? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 30 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 2:23 am: |      |
Are you yelling at something you've seen or read on your computer? On Facebook or other social network? Has somebody revealed something about you? Got your age wrong? no to all Hint: what someone was I yelling to/at? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 190 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 3:20 am: |      |
So you meant to yell. Did you mean for anyone to hear you? Could the someone you were yelling to have heard you at all? Were you looking for someone? A pet, maybe? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 3:23 am: |      |
So you meant to yell. Did you mean for anyone to hear you? yes and yes Could the someone you were yelling to have heard you at all? yes Were you looking for someone? yes A pet, maybe? YES Almost there. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 191 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 3:27 am: |      |
So you're looking for your pet... Pet's name relevant? Pet type (dog, cat, flamingo, whatever) relevant? If so, dog? cat? flamingo? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 32 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 3:45 am: |      |
Pet's name relevant? YES Pet type (dog, cat, flamingo, whatever) relevant? only relevant in that one might run around yelling to/at it ... in my case, a dog. If so, dog? cat? flamingo? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14856 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 4:07 am: |      |
Were you only yelling the pet's name? Something else with it? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 33 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 4:35 am: |      |
Were you only yelling the pet's name? yes Something else with it? no |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 195 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 4:44 am: |      |
Is your pet's name Secret? Does it reveal a secret? For instance, is it Ifellinlovewithmyneighbor? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1927 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 10:37 am: |      |
or does it reveal a secret less blatantly? like, if the dog's name is C3PO that you're a secret Star Wars fan? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 34 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 3:36 pm: |      |
Ciaobella Is your pet's name Secret? no, nice try :-) Does it reveal a secret? no... For instance, is it Ifellinlovewithmyneighbor? not like that at all Shez or does it reveal a secret less blatantly? no... like, if the dog's name is C3PO that you're a secret Star Wars fan? not like that at all, either |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 5154 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 4:03 pm: |      |
Are you not supposed to have pets where you live? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 35 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 4:04 pm: |      |
Are you not supposed to have pets where you live? irr |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 702 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 8:11 pm: |      |
Is the secret the name of your dog? Is the secret that your dog is lost? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 39 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 8:22 pm: |      |
Is the secret the name of your dog? yes, but.... Explore. Is the secret that your dog is lost? no |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 705 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 8:31 pm: |      |
So the secret concerns your house? Are you shouting from inside your property? Relevant? Are there other dogs on your street? Relevant? Does the secret concern your family? Or anyone else? Is your dog's appearance/breed/behaviour relevant? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1937 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 8:43 pm: |      |
is the name of your dog also a password? for your computer? phone? bank? |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 40 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 19, 2011 - 9:00 pm: |      |
Sorry to skip you, Quovynyte.... Shez is the name of your dog also a password? yes for your computer? phone? bank? ************ SPOILER *************** When we had FiOS installed, we had to pick a new password for the home wifi, and the router software defaulted to a 5-character password. In addition, we have a lot of teens coming and going, and they all need to log in to the wifi. So it had to be easy to remember and pass along -- "soft" security, to be sure. Our dog's name has five characters, so that was that. I didn't realize the weakness of this plan until the day I was yelling after Jonas (not his real name :-) in front of the very neighbors who are within range of the wifi. (A variation of this puzzle could have had me yelling the name somewhere else -- on vacation, at a park -- and NOT worrying about giving away a secret.) I hope you enjoyed playing. |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 12:16 am: |      |
Also, can a mod pleez append my name in front of puzzle title? thanks Beginner error, inexcusable ;-) |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 284 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 1:08 am: |      |
Thanks for a good puzzle! A word of advice: For one of my passwords, I used the name of a cat I had as a child. Even my spouse is unlikely to know this, and I'm not going to be yelling it. If you want to use a pet's name, make it a dead one! |
Jvp (Jvp)
New member Username: Jvp
Post Number: 48 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 1:15 am: |      |
Thanks! To be fair, I'm not that uncomfortable with this, since the chance any of my immediate neighbors is a stone cold hacker is pretty slim. And if someone just pirates our signal, we'll notice, especially if it's high bandwidth usage. Then we can change the password to something less...... yellable ;-) |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 213 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - 1:58 am: |      |
Great puzzle! My passwords usually include a number (or several numbers). I've done something similar, so my husband gave me that suggestion. You're far less likely to be yelling J-zero-nas (J0nas)! |