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Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There is something that many (if not all) of us have seen probably several times in our lives. When we see it, some of us may think it's funny; others of us may be offended by it; it may cause sadness to some. I see humor in it after hearing someone refer to it as a symptom of a rebellious attitude toward a certain group of people. So...what is 'it'?

The title, of course, is a roundabout clue to the solution. I won't answer any questions regarding the title, but it may be helpful to keep it in mind as the puzzle progresses. Bonus points to anyone who figures out the clue once the solution is reached!
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it an object? If so, is it animate? If so, an animal? a plant? Is it inanimate?
Is it a situation?
Is it a gesture? A body movement?

Is the "certain group of people" defined by their gender? age? nationality? race? profession? religion? wealth? an object they all possess? where they live?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it an object? Yes If so, is it animate? No
If so, an animal? a plant? No to these
Is it inanimate? Yes
Is it a situation? The object itself isn't, but the circumstances in which the object is observed are unique
Is it a gesture? A body movement? Neither

Is the "certain group of people" defined by their gender? age? nationality? race? None of these
profession? No, but one aspect of their profession
religion?
wealth? an object they all possess? where they live? None of these
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the object natural? manmade? Is it made of [LTPF list of materials]?
Is it bigger than a hand? a loaf of bread? a microwave oven? a table? a car? a house?
Is it usually found indoors? outdoors?
Is it electronic? Is it a piece of clothing? Is it edible?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 8:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the object natural? No, so it's...manmade?...yes Is it made of [LTPF list of materials]? Yes, rubber and plastic, some cloth
Is it bigger than a hand? Most of the time, yes a loaf of bread? Probably not any bigger than this
a microwave oven? a table? a car? a house? If it were bigger than any of these I'd be scared to meet the person who used to own it
Is it usually found indoors? outdoors? Can be found in either place
Is it electronic? No Is it a piece of clothing? Yes Is it edible? Hmmmm...I've only seen people eat this item in cartoons
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Rubber boots? shoes? Some kind of hat?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rubber boots? Could be. More generally speaking, though, its...shoes?...yes, shoes. Now in the context of the puzzle, it's only one shoe.
Some kind of hat? So no.
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Throwing shoes relevant? Bush shoe attack relevant?

One-legged people relevant?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Posted on Monday, October 31, 2011 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Throwing shoes relevant? Yes (but not only this)
Bush shoe attack relevant? No
One-legged people relevant? No
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Wearing only one shoe relevant? Walking barefoot? Is there a relevant person? Who does something with the shoe?

I'm somewhat stuck on the shoe thingy, so I'll go back to the "certain group of people". You said one aspect of their profession is relevant.
Is it related to where they work? when they work? whom they work with?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it the oft seen sight of a single shoe lying by the side of the road?
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 11:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it trainers?

hanging from a lamp-post?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Wearing only one shoe relevant? Yes
Walking barefoot? No
Is there a relevant person? More than one, it's a category of people
Who does something with the shoe? Yes

I'm somewhat stuck on the shoe thingy, so I'll go back to the "certain group of people". You said one aspect of their profession is relevant.
Is it related to where they work? No
when they work? No whom they work with? No

Is it the oft seen sight of a single shoe lying by the side of the road? Yes!

is it trainers? Hmmm...can you rephrase?

hanging from a lamp-post? No
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Shoes hanging over a telephone wire/power cable? I've heard several different things it can mean... gang territory, death, bullying, military leaving service, etc.
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Shoes hanging over a telephone wire/power cable? I've heard several different things it can mean... gang territory, death, bullying, military leaving service, etc. No, the sight that the puzzle refers to is a single shoe lying by the side of the road. I've heard about the shoes over power cables as well, but the type of rebellion that the puzzle deals with isn't at all violent or something anybody would really find threatening. It's not even as bad as throwing a shoe at a politician.
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

whoops... helps when I don't wait long periods of time to finish posting and the host has answered more questions in the meantime. :-/
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

As a shrine? Grave marker?
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 5:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I still have no idea, but thanks to you (Ixoye) making this puzzle, and still having Balin's musicals puzzle in my head, I've been hooked on YouTube videos of "Into The Woods" all day...
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I was thinking of the laced pairs of shoes thrown over power lines too, until I saw the hint that only ONE shoe is involved

Anyway, is there a relevant reason that a person left that spot wearing/carrying only one shoe? or are you just imagining a particularly humorous reason?
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Is the exact location of such a shoe relevant, or could it be anywhere along any road? Is the type of road relevant? Position along the road relevant? In the city? Outside the city?

Is the type of shoe relevant, or could it be any shoe?
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As a shrine? Grave marker? No, simply a discarded shoe on the side of the road, or maybe even on the road

Anyway, is there a relevant reason that a person left that spot wearing/carrying only one shoe? Yes, the humorous aspect of seeing a lone shoe is because of this 'relevant reason'

or are you just imagining a particularly humorous reason? Ha, I'm not creative enough (well, maybe, but I wouldn't have come up with this one on my own) to imagine the motive behind the "lone shoe" - years ago someone made a connection between this phenomenon and a feeling that many people have that would cause them to rebel harmlessly against certain members of society

Is the exact location of such a shoe relevant, or could it be anywhere along any road? Yes, anywhere and any road
Is the type of road relevant? No
Position along the road relevant? No
In the city? Outside the city? Could be either

Is the type of shoe relevant, or could it be any shoe? Good q - the observation was made with the assumption that it could be any shoe. When I saw your question it occurred to me that certain types of shoes would more aptly fit with the situation.
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Relevant whether it is a left or right shoe?

Are politics relevant? (i.e. Khrushchev banging a shoe on the table, the guy who threw his shoes at Bush...)
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Relevant whether it is a left or right shoe? No, it could be either

Are politics relevant? (i.e. Khrushchev banging a shoe on the table, the guy who threw his shoes at Bush...) No
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The kind(s) of shoe(s) that would perhaps be better suited than others: boots? sneakers? running shoes? slippers? sandals? high heels? moccasines? slip-ons? court shoes? dress shoes? ballet shoes? :p

The members of society to be rebelled against: Politicians? Nobility? The wealthy? Media? Company owners? Factory owners? Salesmen? Athleets? Military?
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The kind(s) of shoe(s) that would perhaps be better suited than others: boots? Yes, this would work sneakers? running shoes? Possibly but less likely slippers? No sandals? Possible but not as likely high heels? Yes, this would work moccasines? No, probably not slip-ons? Maybe court shoes? What is this? dress shoes? Yes, this would be the most likely type ballet shoes? Yes, even this would be possible (and interesting to see) :p

The members of society to be rebelled against: Politicians? No Nobility? No The wealthy? Well not as a whole, but some of those being rebelled against may fall into this category
Media? No Company owners? Yes-ish, but not quite at this level
Factory owners? Another yes-ish, not quite at this level
Salesmen? Maybe at this level, yes
Athleets? No Military? Not as likely but certainly possible at certain levels
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Cinderella relevant?
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Cinderella relevant? No...but good thought
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Ok, so, the sight of a solitary shoe on the side of the road is a possible sign of a very passive and humorous, non-violent rebellion...against who?
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Against a well-known authority figure? Against authority at all? Against the same person every time? Parents? Or is it even against a person at all? Against having to wear shoes in public?
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Against a well-known authority figure? Yes, well known to the individual who is acting in rebellion, but... Against authority at all? ...yes, a specific authority figure that is unique to each individual, so its... Against the same person every time? ...not the same person, but the same category of person.

Parents? No Or is it even against a person at all? Yes, against a category of person(s)
Against having to wear shoes in public? No
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if not a parent, another relative? teacher? boss?
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Against a political authority figure?
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if not a parent...boss? Yes!
Against a political authority figure? So no

**** SPOILER *****

The act of rebellion is against bosses! I once heard a comedian speculate that a lonely shoe on the side of the road is a result of digruntled employees looking for ways to irritate their bosses - they remove a shoe, toss it out the window and say, "I'm going to work with just ONE shoe on today, let's see what the boss has to say about THAT!"

The inspiration for the title "To Grandmother's House" is that a grandmother is an old woman, and according to the nursery rhyme there was an old woman who lived in........a shoe!.


Nice job!
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Well, if your feet are under a desk, who knows if the boss'll notice?

Nice one!
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Haha! Never heard that one. Now, I too will laugh the next time I see an abandoned shoe. Good puzzle!
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Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, guys. I always think its funny when someone can find humor in something that we'd otherwise either not notice or react in a way other than laughing about it.

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