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Solitiare (Solitiare)
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For a while, I had a scrund about elephants. I should have known it was too fantastic to be true.
But when I found out the truth, it was even more fantastic.
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is it to do with the elephant's trunk? knees? social behaviour? ahem! reproduction?
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Disney relevant? Other movies? Shows? Songs?
An idiom or phrase relevant (such as "an elephant never forgets")?
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is it to do with the elephant's trunk? knees? social behaviour?this, no to the rest ahem! reproduction?
Disney relevant? Other movies? Shows? Songs?
An idiom or phrase relevant (such as "an elephant never forgets")? no to all
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Elephants are afraid of mice?
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iz rly tru? kaylee kitteh did nawt think it wuz, BalinCat...iz shur? o.o

herds being matriarchal?
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Elephants are afraid of mice? irr
herds being matriarchal?irr
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Male/Female relevant?
Family? Aggression?
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Male/Female relevant? No
Family? No, but maybe what you might call 'relationships.' Aggression? No
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Kaylee: MythBusters tested if elephants are afraid of mice, and determined it to be "plausible."

Do elephants mate for life? Relevant?
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Kaylee kitteh iz nawt afraid of dem, unless iz jumpz on me...tortie kitteh iz not afraid of dem, iz workz in mouse room. Doez nawt eatz dem. But iz kittehz, nawt elephuntz. Doez nawt knoez wut elephuntz iz thinkz of dem. mythbustur kittehz iz knoez lotz howevur. Must be tru if dey sayz so.
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Do elephants mate for life? do they? I doubt it. Ask MythBusters! Relevant?no
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Are other animals relevant? Humans?
Relationships between elephants?
Age of elephant relevant? Birth/death?
Communication relevant? Sounds made by the elephants? Signals? Visual communication?
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Elephant graveyards relevant?
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Are other animals relevant?No Humans? Yessish
Relationships between elephants? Yes
Age of elephant relevant? Birth/death? No to both
Communication relevant?Yes Sounds made by the elephants?Yes! Signals? Visual communication?
Elephant graveyards relevant?No to all.
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Infrasound relevant? Long distance communication?
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Infrasound relevant? Long distance communication?Yes! When I learned that elephants could communicate with rumbles too low for human ears to hear, that ended the scrund I had, which was that elephants had another ability, not related to communication - or at least that one elephant had this ability.
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Did you think they were telepathic? Or had some other supernatural ability? Earthquakes relevant?
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Memory relevant?
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did you think they were telepathic?
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Did you think they were telepathic?No Or had some other supernatural ability?No, but... Earthquakes relevant? no
Memory relevant? Yopish; memory would be involved, but that's not all of it.
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did you think they had some incredible ability, though not actually supernatural?

is it connected with returning to a particular place? remembering a place? congregating somewhere?
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did you think elephants were good at hatching eggs? =)
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did you think they had some incredible ability,Yes, incredible for elephants anyway though not actually supernatural? Right, not supernatural.

is it connected with returning to a particular place?Yes, though not a graveyard. remembering a place? congregating somewhere? Yessish

did you think elephants were good at hatching eggs? =) Heehee - no!
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Elephants never forget?
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Elephants never forget? n.r.
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elephants may not forget, but kaylee kittehz iz very gud at it...even wen haz cheezburgur. *sharez cheezburgurz with soli kitteh* plz tu haz recat of what we knowz? and maybe a hint?
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elephants may not forget, but kaylee kittehz iz very gud at it...even wen haz cheezburgur. *sharez cheezburgurz with soli kitteh* plz tu haz recat of what we knowz? and maybe a hint? *nomz* Okeh...
RECAT:
I had a scrund about elephants, based on what I read about the behavior of one elephant. I extrapolated from that that all elephants had a certain ability. It was not infrasound, which I now know they do have. It is not related to communication. It might be thought of as a 'human' ability, but it is not memory specifically, although the elephant would have to remember some things.
So what did that one elephant do that made me think she had a 'human' quality? Or what was that quality??
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Additional hint: It is related to the elephant's profession.
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elephunt can paint professionul paintinz? o.O
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did the elephant work in a circus? giving rides? logging?
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elephunt can paint professionul paintinz? o.OI've heard about that, but it's n.r. here.
did the elephant work in a circus? giving rides? no to bothlogging?Yes!
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Do they hear trees falling far away (due to the vibrations)? and can find them? but you thought they could understand a human giving verbal directions to where they fell?
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Solitaire, I was sure I had this one - until you said that it relates to the elephant's "profession."

Looking again at your scrund, and how you say that "it was even more fantastic" - I want to ask this carefully.
Does this have to do with certain practices in some elephant-populated places in Africa?

If I'm right, you'll know at once the miracle of which I'm writing. And if I'm wrong, you can set me right easily!

So glad to be back, and so glad to have a great puzzle by you!
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Do they hear trees falling far away (due to the vibrations)? and can find them? but you thought they could understand a human giving verbal directions to where they fell? No, but sense of hearing is relevfant, as explained somewhere above.

Solitaire, I was sure I had this one - until you said that it relates to the elephant's "profession."

Looking again at your scrund, and how you say that "it was even more fantastic" - I want to ask this carefully.
Does this have to do with certain practices in some elephant-populated places in Africa? No. What is it - or do you want to use this in a puzzle sometime?. Anyway, nothing to do with Africa.

If I'm right, you'll know at once the miracle of which I'm writing. And if I'm wrong, you can set me right easily!

So glad to be back, and so glad to have a great puzzle by you! And it's good to see you back!
Fiona
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HINT: It has been established that the elephant's 'profession' is logging. However, this puzzle does not relate to logging per se, but to a similarity betwwen elephants and humans who practice a 'profession.'
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do the elephants always turn up on time for work?

do they knock off for lunch at the same time? gather by the water cooler?
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can they haz cheezburgur? =)
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do the elephants always turn up on time for work?IDK, n.r.

do they knock off for lunch at the same time? gather by the water cooler? Ha! No to both, but OTRT - and water is sort of relevant.
can they haz cheezburgur? =)vegan cheezburgur, pls - and make it a dubbl!
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*givz dem dubbl vegan cheezburgur*
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Drinking water relevant? Bathing? Mud? Running water? Did you think elephants could tell the time?
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Drinking water relevant? Bathing?This; no to the rest. Mud? Running water? Did you think elephants could tell the time? YES!


***********SPOILER***************
I read about some elephants who worked in the teak forests of SE Asia. After working for a set number of days, they were taken to the beach for a little R & R. One elephant was working by helself (with a human foreman) away from the others, but when the others went on vacation, she went on strike and refused to work until she got to go too.

I said: "That's amazing. The elephant somehow was able to tell the passage of time, possibly by the position of the sun." I now know that that isn't so. Instead, she was getting infrasound messages from her coworkers, the pachyderm equivalent of "Having wonderful time, wish you were here!"


Thanks all, and kudos to Galfish, who deserves to have his accomplishment trumpeted.

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