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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 6:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One man's overzealousness at his job ruined another man's plan. It all worked out, though.
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Did the plan count on the first man not being overzealous? Did the plan include tricking him? Slipping something by him? Fraud relevant? Some other crime? Is the second man's profession relevant? It all worked out = the second man got the result he desired?
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Was the first man overzealous because:
he did more than expected?
he did something quicker than expected?
he did something smarter/more innovative way than expected?

Did the overzealousness have a positive outcome at first man's work?

Did both men work together? Did they meet at all?
Balin (Balin)
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Did the plan count on the first man not being overzealous? No Did the plan include tricking him? Slipping something by him? Fraud relevant? Some other crime? No to the rest of these Is the second man's profession relevant? No It all worked out = the second man got the result he desired? Yes

Was the first man overzealous because:
he did more than expected? This is closest, but still a Noish.
he did something quicker than expected? No
he did something smarter/more innovative way than expected? No

Did the overzealousness have a positive outcome at first man's work? Neutral outcome

Did both men work together? No Did they meet at all? Yes, just this once
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The first man's profession relevant? If so, did he work in:
-transportation?
-law enforcement?
-government?
-finance?
-education?
-research?
-healthcare?

Was he trying to save money? Did the first man have malicious intentions? selfish intentions? Did the second man?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 9:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The first man's profession relevant? Yes If so, did he work in:
-transportation? This is part of it; No to rest
-law enforcement?
-government?
-finance?
-education?
-research?
-healthcare?

Was he trying to save money? Did the first man have malicious intentions? selfish intentions? Did the second man? No to all
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are you the second man in the puzzle? was your plan ruined?

Public transport relevant? a driver? Conductor? Guard?
Balin (Balin)
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are you the second man in the puzzle? No was your plan ruined? No

Public transport relevant? Yes a driver? No Conductor? No Guard? Yope
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Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the first man the one who checks whether people in the public mean of transport have tickets?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the first man the one who checks whether people in the public mean of transport have tickets? No
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Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the first man notice something? report something? move something?

did the second man plan to do something criminal?
Balin (Balin)
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did the first man notice something? Yes, and a little more report something? No move something? Yope

did the second man plan to do something criminal? No
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Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 9:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the first man notice something and cover it up? physically? metaphorically?

did he clean it up?
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did the first man notice something and cover it up? physically? metaphorically?

did he clean it up? mend it? make it better?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 3:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the first man notice something and cover it up? physically? metaphorically? did he clean it up? mend it? make it better? No to all
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Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the first man bring the thing to someone else's attention?

was it a security issue?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the first man bring the thing to someone else's attention? Yes

was it a security issue? It actually wasn't, but the first man thought it might be. That's a fair-sized HINT.
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

can we call the first man Adam and the second Zeb?

did Adam notice a window left open? unlatched? a door? a gate? a broken window? something else broken?

did he notice an item left where it should not have been? a suitcase? briefcase? box?
Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did this happen on a train? tram? bus? coach? taxi? at a railway station? at a bus station? at a tram station? at a taxi rank?

an unattended bag?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 6:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

can we call the first man Adam and the second Zeb? OK

did Adam notice a window left open? unlatched? a door? a gate? a broken window? something else broken? No to all

did he notice an item left where it should not have been? Well,no, but he was suspicious of... a box? ...this... suitcase? ...inside this. briefcase?

did this happen on a train? tram? bus? coach? taxi? at a railway station? at a bus station? at a tram station? at a taxi rank? No to all

an unattended bag? No
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an aeroplane? at an airport?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

an aeroplane? at an airport? This
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2011 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so was Adam a customs/security officer?

and he found a suspicious box inside a suitcase which he reported?

did they blow it up?

was Zeb trying to smuggle something in? drugs? chemicals? a weapon?
Balin (Balin)
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so was Adam a customs/security officer? Yesish/Yope

and he found a suspicious box inside a suitcase Yes which he reported? No

did they blow it up? No

was Zeb trying to smuggle something in? No drugs? chemicals? a weapon? No to all
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Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 8:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The box:
Did it resemble a bomb (or other explosive device)?
Did it resemble a weapons case or something else which would be illegal on a flight?
Did it contain anything?
Assuming yes, were the contents innocuous? relevant to the puzzle?
Did it contain a gift for someone?
Smaller than a breadbox? (I ask this only because it's a standard question, I actually don't know what a breadbox is. Was it a breadbox in the suitcase?)
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A breadbox is a box that holds bread, not that we see those too much anymore...
Balin (Balin)
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The box:
Did it resemble a bomb (or other explosive device)? No
Did it resemble a weapons case or something else which would be illegal on a flight? No
Did it contain anything? Yes
Assuming yes, were the contents innocuous? No relevant to the puzzle? Yes
Did it contain a gift for someone? Yesish
Smaller than a breadbox? Yes (I ask this only because it's a standard question, I actually don't know what a breadbox is. Was it a breadbox in the suitcase?) No
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Forgive me for simplifying: Did the zealousness mean that an item was interpreted as being dangerous, when it really wasn't?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Forgive me for simplifying: Did the zealousness mean that an item was interpreted as being dangerous, when it really wasn't? Yesish. Adam saw the box, was suspicious of it, and...
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And: opened it? Removed it? Rerouted it? X-rayed it? Used some other detecting equipment on it?Delayed it? Spoke to Zeb? Spoke to someone else? Alerted someone? Became afraid? Suspicious? Curious? Relevant exactly what was in it? If he opened it, relevant how?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 1:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And: opened it? Well, he made Zeb open it Removed it? This too. These are the only relevant pieces from this list of questions }Rerouted it? X-rayed it? Used some other detecting equipment on it? Delayed it? Spoke to Zeb? Spoke to someone else? Alerted someone? Became afraid? Suspicious? Curious? Relevant exactly what was in it? Yes If he opened it, relevant how? See prev
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so Zeb had brought the box with him because he planned to do something with it?

was it a present?

did the box contain food? tools?

was Zeb's plan ruined by the box being opened?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 6:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so Zeb had brought the box with him because he planned to do something with it? Yes

was it a present? Yope

did the box contain food? tools? Neither

was Zeb's plan ruined by the box being opened? Yes
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 7:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it supposed to be a surprise?

ooh - was someone with him (Zeb)? was it an engagement ring?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 12:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it supposed to be a surprise?

ooh - was someone with him (Zeb)? was it an engagement ring? BINGO!

**********SPOILER**********

From March 2008:

"A Prince George man's plans for a romantic proposal on a Caribbean cruise turned into a impromptu airport proposal after a security guard discovered the engagement ring hidden in a sock in his carry-on bag.
Airport screening officer Adam Buhler said when he realized what was hidden in the socks he tried to put the ring box back in its hiding place, but groom-to-be Aaron Tkachuk figured the cat was already out of the bag and proposed to his longtime girlfriend on the spot."


Fortunately, she said yes.

Nice work everyone.
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 - 10:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

excellent puzzle, thanks Balin!

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