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Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16514 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 1:14 am: |      |
He fired. She died. He died. Explain why. He #1 = He #2 = H-A-M She = H-A-F |
Verdant (Verdant)
New member Username: Verdant
Post Number: 11 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 1:22 am: |      |
Was the firing of a job position? A literal fire? Firing up (as in activating)? Firing with rage? It's pretty obvious what I'm trying to avoid asking... |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 193 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 1:32 am: |      |
Then I'll ask what you're not... Firing as in shooting a gun? Did she die as a direct result of him firing ? Indirect? Did he die as a direct result of her dying? Indirect? Did he die as a direct result of him firing (As in dying because of the firing himself, rather than her dying or something else)? Indirect? Did she die first? Did he? Both at the same time? Relevant? Ages relevant? If so, 0-10? 11-20? 21-30? 31-40? 41-50? 51-60? 61-70? 71-80? 81-90? 91-100? 101-110? Other? For a moment I thought, wait, she could be a baby in her mother's womb! Then I realized, oh yeah, mother's. *facepalm* |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16515 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 1:43 am: |      |
Was the firing of a job position? A literal fire? Firing up (as in activating)? Firing with rage? No It's pretty obvious what I'm trying to avoid asking... And Kyeann steps in... Then I'll ask what you're not... Firing as in shooting a gun? Yes Did she die as a direct result of him firing ? Indirect? This, but not that indirect Did he die as a direct result of her dying? Indirect? Same Did he die as a direct result of him firing (As in dying because of the firing himself, rather than her dying or something else)? Indirect? This Did she die first? Yes Did he? No Both at the same time? No Relevant? Yes Ages relevant? If so, 0-10? 11-20? 21-30? 31-40? 41-50? 51-60? 61-70? 71-80? 81-90? 91-100? 101-110? Other? Assume they were in their 30s. It doesn't matter all that much. For a moment I thought, wait, she could be a baby in her mother's womb! Then I realized, oh yeah, mother's. *facepalm* |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 784 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 1:56 am: |      |
Relevant how much time passed between the deaths? If so, seconds? minutes? hours? days? longer? Is their relationship relevant? Was she providing a service for him (such as medical care)? Did he intend for her to die when he fired the gun? Did she die from a gunshot? Did he? Other possible causes of death (answer for both, please, even when some may overlap): heart attack? falling down an elevator shaft? poison? stabbing? suicide? murder? accident? electrocution? trampled by Twilight fans? drowning? starvation? dehydration? |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 195 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 2:16 am: |      |
Note to self: Never read Ciaobella's list of causes of death while drinking milk. Trampled by Twilight fans, LOL Did the bullet ricochet off of something? Or was its path straight? Relevant? |
Verdant (Verdant)
New member Username: Verdant
Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 2:40 am: |      |
Did "He #1" (I'll call him HEnry) fire the gun with intent to kill? Was "She" (I'll call her SHElby) in the same room as HEnry at the time the gun was fired? Did "He #2" (Who I'll call HErnando) have a different COD than "SHElby?" Did HEnry meet up with HErnando after SHElby had died? Were they fans of the book or the movie? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16518 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 4:30 am: |      |
Relevant how much time passed between the deaths? Yes If so, seconds? minutes? hours? days? This longer? Is their relationship relevant? Yes Was she providing a service for him (such as medical care)? Noish Did he intend for her to die when he fired the gun? No Did she die from a gunshot? No Did he? No Other possible causes of death (answer for both, please, even when some may overlap): heart attack? falling down an elevator shaft? Wrong puzzle =) poison? stabbing? suicide? murder? accident? Her death was an accident, but the COD is not on this list. electrocution? trampled by Twilight fans? I so wish it were this one. But it's not. drowning? starvation? His COD was this... dehydration? ...or this, whichever comes first (and I think it's this) Note to self: Never read Ciaobella's list of causes of death while drinking milk. Trampled by Twilight fans, LOL Or in my case, grapefruit juice. Did the bullet ricochet off of something? Yes!! Or was its path straight? YOPE! Relevant? Very! Did "He #1" (I'll call him HEnry) fire the gun with intent to kill? No Was "She" (I'll call her SHElby) in the same room as HEnry at the time the gun was fired? Yes Did "He #2" (Who I'll call HErnando) have a different COD than "SHElby?" FA -- there is only one "He" Did HEnry meet up with HErnando after SHElby had died? See prev Were they fans of the book or the movie? Irrel ;-) |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 196 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 4:43 am: |      |
Yes, death from dehydration would come first. So did Shelby provide Henry with food and water? Did Henry get food and water in some way that was related to Shelby? You said the relationship was relevant. Were they: Brother and sister? Just friends? Girlfriend and boyfriend? Married? Other? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16519 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 5:30 am: |      |
Yes, death from dehydration would come first. I thought so. Then dehydration is his COD. So did Shelby provide Henry with food and water? No Did Henry get food and water in some way that was related to Shelby? No You said the relationship was relevant. Were they: Brother and sister? Just friends? This, but... Girlfriend and boyfriend? Married? Other? ...this gets a Yope. |
Verdant (Verdant)
New member Username: Verdant
Post Number: 15 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 6:25 am: |      |
I guess I missed that Ciaobella practically asked two of my questions before me... Did the gun fire regular bullets? Were Henry and Shelby colleagues? Was the room they were in isolated? If, for what ever reason, another person had been in the room, alive, would Henry have survived? Would the additional person die alongside Henry? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 790 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 6:33 am: |      |
Environment relevant? If so, desert? island? urban environment? frozen tundra? forest? on a mountain? aquatic environment (such as in a boat on the ocean)? Did they work together? Relevant how long they'd known each other? Relevant how long after the gun was fired that Shelby died? If so, seconds? minutes? hours? days? longer? Did she die because of something that the bullet hit (for instance, water bottle or live explosive)? Did Henry intend to fire the gun? Relevant what kind of gun? Relevant why/how the gun was fired? Was it in an oven by any chance? o_O Any circuses involved? crime? wars? mental illness? Darwin Awards? (trying to cover my LTPF bases) My sincere apologies for any nostrils flooded by any beverage following the Twilight reference. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16522 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 12:29 pm: |      |
I guess I missed that Ciaobella practically asked two of my questions before me... Did the gun fire regular bullets? Yes Were Henry and Shelby colleagues? Irrel Was the room they were in isolated? Yes If, for what ever reason, another person had been in the room, alive, would Henry have survived? It depends, but probably Would the additional person die alongside Henry? See prev Environment relevant? Yes If so, desert? island? urban environment? frozen tundra? forest? on a mountain? aquatic environment (such as in a boat on the ocean)? None of these Did they work together? Irrel Relevant how long they'd known each other? No Relevant how long after the gun was fired that Shelby died? Yes If so, seconds? This minutes? hours? days? longer? Did she die because of something that the bullet hit Yes (for instance, water bottle or live explosive)? But neither of these Did Henry intend to fire the gun? Yes Relevant what kind of gun? Only that it was a pistol. Caliber and the like is irrel. Relevant why/how the gun was fired? Yes Was it in an oven by any chance? o_O No -- that puzzle's been solved already =) Any circuses involved? crime? wars? mental illness? Darwin Awards? (trying to cover my LTPF bases) No to all, with an -ish for mental illness My sincere apologies for any nostrils flooded by any beverage following the Twilight reference. |
Verdant (Verdant)
New member Username: Verdant
Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:37 pm: |      |
Were they underground? At sea? In the sky? Is Henry capable of knowing when to eat or drink? Is Henry capable of knowing what to eat or drink? |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 197 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:48 pm: |      |
Would the additional person die INSTEAD of Henry? Is the thing the bullet ricocheted off of relevant? If so, made of: Metal? Cloth? Rubber? Stone? Wood? Glass? Plastic? Paper? Twilight books? Other? Manmade or natural? Bullet material relevant? Apology accepted, Ciaobella. *offurs a peaze cheezburgur* |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 2838 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 1:10 pm: |      |
did she fall on him and trap him? or block his way out? was she the only one who knew the way out? or who knew a key code? were they in a maze? an underground tunnel? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16527 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 1:56 pm: |      |
Were they underground? This At sea? In the sky? Is Henry capable of knowing when to eat or drink? Yes Is Henry capable of knowing what to eat or drink? Yes Would the additional person die INSTEAD of Henry? No Is the thing the bullet ricocheted off of relevant? If so, made of: Metal? Cloth? Rubber? Stone? This Wood? Glass? Plastic? Paper? Twilight books? Other? Manmade or natural? Natural Bullet material relevant? No Apology accepted, Ciaobella. *offurs a peaze cheezburgur* did she fall on him and trap him? No or block his way out? No was she the only one who knew the way out? Yesish! or who knew a key code? were they in a maze? an underground tunnel? Thisish. They were in an underground cave. |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724
Post Number: 3643 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 3:09 pm: |      |
So he fired a gun which projected a bullet, and the bullet ricocheted off of a stone and then hit something which caused her death and led to his, and this was happening in a cave...all of this correct? Were they spelunking? Climbing? Descending? Were they using ropes to climb or descend? If yes (to ropes), was her rope hit by the bullet? Was she carrying a light? Was he? |
Verdant (Verdant)
New member Username: Verdant
Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 3:12 pm: |      |
So can we say that Henry intended to hit the stone surface/object? But didn't realise it would recoil? Can we say that Shelby was a guide? And Shelby was crushed to death in a cave-in? As a result of the ricochet? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16528 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 5:20 pm: |      |
So he fired a gun which projected a bullet, and the bullet ricocheted off of a stone and then hit something which caused her death and led to his, and this was happening in a cave...all of this correct? Yes, save the struck-out section. Were they spelunking? Climbing? Descending? Irrel exactly how they got down there Were they using ropes to climb or descend? Irrel If yes (to ropes), was her rope hit by the bullet? No Was she carrying a light? Yes! Was he? No! So can we say that Henry intended to hit the stone surface/object? No But didn't realise it would recoil? Can we say that Shelby was a guide? And Shelby was crushed to death in a cave-in? Yes to these! As a result of the ricochet? Yope -- see above |
Verdant (Verdant)
New member Username: Verdant
Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:56 am: |      |
Was he trying to use the pistol as a light source? After the cave in, was there another route he could have taken to escape? Earlier, I asked whether an additional person would survive, to which you said "probably." To clarify, I mean if hän was in the same room after the cavein, would hän be able to find a way out? If the above question is true, can we say Henry had a disability compared to most others in finding a way out? Physical? Mental? Was he an major claustrophobe? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 792 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 2:44 am: |      |
Did he panic? Is his emotional state at the time of the shot relevant? Try to fire the shot to alert others to his whereabouts? To threaten Shelby? To hit something in the cave, such as a bat? Am I correct in understanding that once Shelby died from the cave-in, the light was extinguished so that he couldn't find his way out? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16531 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 12:32 pm: |      |
Was he trying to use the pistol as a light source? No After the cave in, was there another route he could have taken to escape? Yes -- assume that it wasn't a total cave-in and he could have gotten around it. Earlier, I asked whether an additional person would survive, to which you said "probably." To clarify, I mean if hän was in the same room after the cavein, would hän be able to find a way out? Hmmm...it all depends on one circumstance. If the above question is true, can we say Henry had a disability compared to most others in finding a way out? No Physical? Mental? Was he an major claustrophobe? No Did he panic? Yes! Is his emotional state at the time of the shot relevant? Yes! Try to fire the shot to alert others to his whereabouts? To threaten Shelby? To hit something in the cave, such as a bat? This, although it might not have been a bat Am I correct in understanding that once Shelby died from the cave-in, the light was extinguished so that he couldn't find his way out? Yes You're almost there! |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 208 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 4:44 pm: |      |
So Henry saw something that made him panic, correct? He shot at it with his gun, correct? The bullet ricocheted off of some stone, causing a cave-in which killed Shelby and extinguished the light, correct? Although Henry could have escaped, did he not know the correct route? And was afraid of getting even more lost? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16536 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 5:33 pm: |      |
So Henry saw something that made him panic, correct? He shot at it with his gun, correct? The bullet ricocheted off of some stone, causing a cave-in which killed Shelby and extinguished the light, correct? Correct. Although Henry could have escaped, did he not know the correct route? Yes/Yope And was afraid of getting even more lost? Yope You still need these questions: How exactly was the light extinguished? Why was the light so important? |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 210 Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 9:31 pm: |      |
Was it extremely dark in the cave without the light? Oh! Did the thing Henry shot at put out the light, and he shot at in panic when he was suddenly enveloped by darkness? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16537 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 11:01 pm: |      |
Was it extremely dark in the cave without the light? Yes! Oh! Did the thing Henry shot at put out the light, Yesish and he shot at in panic when he was suddenly enveloped by darkness? No, but you've got enough. **********SPOILER********** Henry and Shelby were exploring an underground cave. It was pitch-black in there, so Shelby brought a flashlight, but for some reason Henry did not. However, he did bring his gun because he was frightened. While in the cave, Henry was startled by a noise and fired at it; the bullet struck a boulder, which tumbled down, killed Shelby, and smashed the flashlight. Henry was now in a pitch-black cave with no way to escape and no way to find out how; needless to say, he died shortly thereafter. Nice work everyone, especially Kyeann for the solve. New puzzle shortly. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella
Post Number: 801 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2012 - 8:24 am: |      |
Very nice, Balin! I really enjoy the variety in your puzzles. |