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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They were surprised to see her there. But it was so easy...
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They: H/A/M? H/A/F? H/A/Mixed?
Her: H/A/F?
There: The same place "They" were? A real place? A fictional place?

(While I'm at it, FYOI? FSEI? True story?)

It: Getting "there"?

Should "they" have been surprised to see her there? Can we call "her" Amy?

(Did Amy steal the TARDIS to get herself "there"? Hehe...)
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They: H/A/M? H/A/F? H/A/Mixed? H/T/Mixed
Her: H/A/F? H/T/F
There: The same place "They" were? Noish/Yesish (not a typo) A real place? Yes A fictional place?

(While I'm at it, FYOI? FSEI? True story?) True story

It: Getting "there"? Yes

Should "they" have been surprised to see her there? Yope, not really relevant Can we call "her" Amy? Sure

(Did Amy steal the TARDIS to get herself "there"? Hehe...) Hehe, no
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Were some of "They" "There", where Amy was, and some of "They" elsewhere? So we have two (or more?) groups of "They"?
Balin (Balin)
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Were some of "They" "There", where Amy was, and some of "They" elsewhere? So we have two (or more?) groups of "They"? No. The problem is not with the "They," but...
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...with the "There"? Is there more than one "There"?
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did they think she would be someplace else?
Balin (Balin)
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...with the "There"? Yes Is there more than one "There"? Yesish
did they think she would be someplace else? No, they just didn't think she would be where she was
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Location of "there": continent / country / town relevant? Indoors? (Trapped inside Cheops Pyramid?) Outdoors? In the air? On the ground? In the water? In outer space? Geographical features relevant (in the mountains / on the seaside)?

Relevant when this happened? Was Amy alive when they saw her?
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Location of "there": continent / country / town relevant? No Indoors? No! (Trapped inside Cheops Pyramid?) Outdoors? Yes In the air? For Amy, Noish/Yope On the ground? For "they," yes In the water? No In outer space? No Geographical features relevant Only to the "Noish/Yope" (in the mountains / on the seaside)? Nothing like this

Relevant when this happened? No Was Amy alive when they saw her? Yes
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HINT: An analogy to the two "there"s would be if everyone was in a room, and Amy was on a couch in the room. But that's obviously not it.
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is she suspended from something? like hanging from a tree? a bridge?
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is she suspended from something? No, but... like hanging from No a tree? Yes a bridge? No
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did she climb the tree? did it appear as if she had climbed the tree? did it seem unbelievable that she could have got there herself? within a specified timeframe?
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did she climb the tree? Yes did it appear as if she had climbed the tree? See prev did it seem unbelievable that she could have got there herself? YOPE! within a specified timeframe? No
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were they/would they be surprised to know that she could climb the tree? was she alone? is that relevant? was there an alternative to climbing the tree that they would have expected her to have done instead? were they surprised to see her at all, i.e. Irrespective of the fact she was at the top? of a tree?
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were they This /would they be surprised to know that she could climb the tree? Yesish was she alone? NO is that relevant? Very was there an alternative to climbing the tree that they would have expected her to have done instead? No were they surprised to see her at all, No i.e. Irrespective of the fact she was at the top? of a tree?
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Was another person with her in the tree? Near the tree? Was an animal?
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did she climb the tree to rescue someone? an animal? a cat?

was the only surpprise to see her up a tree in the first place?
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were they surprised someone had let her climb the tree?
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Was another person with her in the tree? No Near the tree? Yes Was an animal? No

did she climb the tree to rescue someone? an animal? a cat? No to all

was the only surpprise to see her up a tree in the first place? Yes

were they surprised someone had let her climb the tree? No
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The person near the tree: one H/A/M? more than one? Was he/she a friend? Relative? Total stranger? Was he/she alive?
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The person near the tree: one H/A/M? One HTM more than one? Was he/she a friend? Yes Relative? Total stranger? Was he/she alive? Yes
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HINT: There are three relevant persons (or groups of people):

One HTF (whom you have dubbed "Amy"), in the tree
One HTM near the tree
A mixed group of HTMs & HTFs, on the ground

The mixed group was surprised to see Amy in the tree. Why? And what does the single HTM have to do with it?
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is his name Matt? And he posted a puzzle about it? =P
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is his name Matt? And he posted a puzzle about it? =P Actually, yes. I am the solo HTM in the puzzle. But I'm relevant to the solution as well.
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Was Amy particularly incapable (or at least less capable than others) to climb a tree? Was she afraid of height? Did she climb a tree by herself? Did someone help her?
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Was Amy particularly incapable (or at least less capable than others) to climb a tree? No, but they thought this was true. Why? Was she afraid of height? No Did she climb a tree by herself? No... Did someone help her? Yes!
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Did Amy ever climb a tree before? Did you help her to climb a tree?
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Did Amy ever climb a tree before? Yes Did you help her to climb a tree? Yes, I helped her climb this tree

You've got most of it. Just answer the question: Why did they think she would have been less likely to climb this tree than themselves?
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Was Amy physically impaired? Was she smaller than other teenagers?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, January 20, 2012 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry I missed these questions

Was Amy physically impaired? Was she smaller than other teenagers? This.

**********SPOILER**********

This happened the summer before my ninth grade year, on a short-term missions project in Hartford. During one of our service projects, a bunch of the students there noticed a tree on the front lawn, and tried to climb it. However, all failed. My friend Melissa ("Amy" in the puzzle), who's done her share of tree-climbing, decided to give it a shot; however, she and I were much shorter than the other students. This was no problem, as she made it up the tree with the aid of a boost from me.

Nice work everyone, and good solve Redwine. New puzzle shortly.

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