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Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2012 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A woman told her husband that their electric heater was not working and needed repair. He couldn't have been happier.
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Is is happiness directly related to the heater being repaired? Or replaced?

Is he happy simply because the heater will eventually work properly?

Before the woman told him so, had he been unhappy?
Sad?
Annoyed?
Worried?
Angry?
Or just cold?

Is there something extraordinary about the heater?
Is the reason why it doesn't work extraordinary?
Like, is something stuck in it? That the man wants to have?
Or does it have any damage that is evidence for a particular event?

Has a significant amount time passed between the reason for the heater failure and the woman telling?
Or between the reason and the heater failure?
Or between the failure and the woman telling?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 3:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is is happiness directly related to the heater being repaired? Or replaced? No

Is he happy simply because the heater will eventually work properly? No

Before the woman told him so, had he been unhappy?
Sad?
Annoyed?
Worried?
Angry?
Or just cold? Irrelevant to all

Is there something extraordinary about the heater? Not particularly, but there is one relevant aspect that is yet-to-be-discovered
Is the reason why it doesn't work extraordinary? No- assume it's just getting old
Like, is something stuck in it? That the man wants to have?
Or does it have any damage that is evidence for a particular event? None of this

Has a significant amount time passed between the reason for the heater failure and the woman telling? The reason is irrelevant
Or between the reason and the heater failure?Irrelevant
Or between the failure and the woman telling? Assume a few hours here
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 3:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will a professional perform the repair? Will the husband? The wife?
Is it relevant that the heater is electric?

Is the man happy for not-so-good reasons? i.e. Will this enable him to keep an affair secret?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 4:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will a professional perform the repair? Will the husband? The wife? Irrelevant. Assume a professional.
Is it relevant that the heater is electric? Not really. It could be a gas heater.

Is the man happy for not-so-good reasons? i.e. Will this enable him to keep an affair secret? Nothing like that, but whether the reason is good or bad is up for debate.
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Was the heater being frequently used before the woman said this? Used at all?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the heater malfunctioning in the first place?

Is there something relevant about the woman?
Does she have an impairment?
Something that would actually make her unable to sense whether or not the heater was working?
Or that actually made her unable to speak?
So that saying something about the heater was a sign that she was recovering?
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 1:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin
Was the heater being frequently used before the woman said this? Used at all? Yes to both- assume daily use

Potato
Was the heater malfunctioning in the first place? Are you asking if it was malfunctioning before it finally broke? If so, the answer is "yes" a very slight "ish".

Is there something relevant about the woman?
Does she have an impairment?
Something that would actually make her unable to sense whether or not the heater was working?
Or that actually made her unable to speak?
So that saying something about the heater was a sign that she was recovering? Nothing like any of this. The woman can be assumed to be healthy and of average intelligence without any relevant deformities. Good thoughts, though. It might make an interesting puzzle in the future, if you'd like to pursue something in that direction.
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 3:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is what the woman said to the husband some sort of code? Is she telling him some good news? maybe she's pregnant and this is some in-joke way of telling him?
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I don't think it has been established if this is a water heater or an air heater? Is this relevant?

If it is a water heater, does he prefer to take cold baths? (Just being silly!)
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Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 10:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peter365

Is what the woman said to the husband some sort of code? Is she telling him some good news? maybe she's pregnant and this is some in-joke way of telling him? Nothing like this, but a nice thought. "Guess what, honey? The heater finally broke!" *hugs and cheers all around*

Solitiare

I don't think it has been established if this is a water heater or an air heater? No, it would be a room heater or central heater. Is this relevant? Most definitely. =)

If it is a water heater, does he prefer to take cold baths? (Just being silly!) Never hurts to ask in LTPF. And you've given me an idea for another puzzle. I'll need to flesh it out a little more. Thanks!
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Is a consequence of the failure relevant? Is the exact nature of the failure relevant? Or is it just that it won't heat anymore? Relevant consequence, if any: cold house? No heating bills? No fuel usage? No maintenance? Having to use another heating method? Having to pay for heat? Having to move?
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Substitute fuel with electricity for the above.
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Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the season relevant?
If it is winter, is he happy because now they can light the fire in the fireplace, which will be more cozy and romantic? (though that doesn't sound like a typical male to me. But what do I know - we don't have a fireplace.)
Do they have a fireplace? Is this relevant?
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Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Galfisk
Is a consequence of the failure relevant? Yes Is the exact nature of the failure relevant? No Or is it just that it won't heat anymore? Yes Relevant consequence, if any: cold house? This No heating bills? No fuel usage? No maintenance? Having to use another heating method? And this Having to pay for heat? Having to move? No to the rest

Substitute fuel with electricity for the above. No changes

Solitiare

Is the season relevant? Assume that it is cold. Otherwise, no.
If it is winter, is he happy because now they can light the fire in the fireplace, which will be more cozy and romantic? (though that doesn't sound like a typical male to me. But what do I know - we don't have a fireplace.) Not this
Do they have a fireplace? No Is this relevant? Yope- I wouldn't focus on this.
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Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 8:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it mean that they could not stay there? They have to spent the time (Christmas vacation?) somewhere else?
And just to check: is it their own house where this happened? somebody else's house? a hotel/motel/holiday home?
Relevant that the electrical heater needed repair? Relevant who was going to repair it? the husband himself?
Would he equally have been happy if the heater had to be replaced instead of repaired?
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Posted on Monday, February 13, 2012 - 8:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it mean that they could not stay there? They have to spent the time (Christmas vacation?) somewhere else? No
And just to check: is it their own house where this happened? This somebody else's house? a hotel/motel/holiday home? No to the others
Relevant that the electrical heater needed repair? yope-rephrase? Relevant who was going to repair it? the husband himself? how the repair will take place is irrelevant
Would he equally have been happy if the heater had to be replaced instead of repaired? For the purposes of this puzzle, yes
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Is the only relevant thing that they now do not heat with electricity? so, can use the electricity for something else? Is the TV set not working when the heater is on, and the husband wants to watch the football match?
Is the exact method of heating to be used in place of the heater relevant? Does it involve some kind of modern technology? like: solar heating? heat pump?
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Is the only relevant thing that they now do not heat with electricity? The heater is the only thing malfunctioning, if that's what you're asking. so, can use the electricity for something else? Sure Is the TV set not working when the heater is on, and the husband wants to watch the football match? Hahaha- good idea, but not this.
Is the exact method of heating to be used in place of the heater relevant? Yes Does it involve some kind of modern technology? like: solar heating? heat pump? Not that modern. The "modern" versions (electric versions) were available in the late 19th century. However, the concept is ancient.
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central heating? underfloor heating? gas?
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I'm not sure whether "bed warmer" is the right term of what he might have been thinking of .. ?
Anyway, heating pad? electric blanket? anything like this relevant?
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Shez

central heating? underfloor heating? gas? The alternate heat source? It might use gas, but not necessarily. No to the other two.

Sundowner

I'm not sure whether "bed warmer" is the right term of what he might have been thinking of .. ?
Anyway, heating pad? electric blanket? anything like this relevant? None of those are relevant. Keep guessing though. You'll hit on it soon enough.

And here's a little hint: their house is likely small, so it wouldn't take much to keep it warm. I actually based this puzzle off something my husband said, and we have a very small home.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How small is 'small'? under 1000 square feet? over? under 500 sq ft?
Is the house really an apartment, so it could 'borrow' heat from the surrounding apartments? or a semi-detached or other multifamily house?
Do they live in a basement or other underground or semi-underground dwelling?
Any of this relevant?
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How small is 'small'? under 1000 square feet? This, probably over? Probably not under 500 sq ft? Possibly this as well

It is small enough to be kept warm by a single heat source.

Is the house really an apartment, so it could 'borrow' heat from the surrounding apartments? or a semi-detached or other multifamily house?
Do they live in a basement or other underground or semi-underground dwelling? No, just a small but otherwise normal house.
Any of this relevant? It's relevant that it's a small house, but you're OTWT with the above ideas.
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Does the alternative source of heating involve: a lamp? a candle? an oven? an open fire?
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A space heater (the kind that can be moved around the floor)? some other portable heat source?

If either of these, is the relevant fact that it's portable? Is the normal heater (the one that broke) too far away from his bed to keep him as warm as he likes, while he could set the portable heater right next to it and "hog" the heat? (I used to sit directly on top of heat vents on winter mornings as a kid, to let the air blow up under my shirt. A portable heater may have made this unnecessary...)
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Do they already have the other heat source? Or do they have to buy it? Or get it some other way? Relevant exactly what the other heat source is? Or how the heat is produced? Is he happy because once the central heater is fixed, he can use the other heat source somewhere else?
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Sundowner
Does the alternative source of heating involve: a lamp? a candle? an oven? This an open fire?

Biograd
A space heater (the kind that can be moved around the floor)? some other portable heat source? No to these

If either of these, is the relevant fact that it's portable? Is the normal heater (the one that broke) too far away from his bed to keep him as warm as he likes, while he could set the portable heater right next to it and "hog" the heat? (I used to sit directly on top of heat vents on winter mornings as a kid, to let the air blow up under my shirt. A portable heater may have made this unnecessary...) As we've now established that the heat source was an oven, it was not portable. But I liked the story. It made me smile because I did the same thing. I like warm weather. So much so that I once stood too close to a gas-powered room heater and melted my windbreaker.

Galfisk
Do they already have the other heat source? Yes Or do they have to buy it? Or get it some other way? So no Relevant exactly what the other heat source is? Or how the heat is produced? It is relevant that it is an oven. Is he happy because once the central heater is fixed, he can use the other heat source somewhere else? No, it will be used in the kitchen. However, because their house is small, it will warm the whole house. So why would he be happy?
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Posted on Friday, February 17, 2012 - 1:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*swoops*As the oven has to be on all the time, now he can get home-baked goodies?
Better enjoy them now - what will he do in the summertime?
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*swoops*As the oven has to be on all the time, now he can get home-baked goodies? That's it!
Better enjoy them now - what will he do in the summertime? Good point!

**********SPOILER**********


A couple has been having trouble with their heater. In the past, the wife has kept warm at home by baking, oven-roasting, and otherwise preparing yummy food all day, using the heat from the oven to warm the house. So when the heater breaks down yet again and she complains to her husband, he responds with a wide grin, anticipating the nice dinner awaiting him.

This story was actually inspired by my own dear husband. A year or so ago, I told him that the heater had broken. Stuck at the house all day, I'd had to get creative to stay warm. The repairman had it fixed within a few hours. When my husband came home to lots of his favorite dinners and desserts already prepared for the week, he exclaimed, "I can't wait until the heater breaks again!"

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