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Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7425 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 11:15 pm: |      |
When Gwendolyn describes her background, people assume that she's estranged from her family, but she actually gets along very well with them and always has, How come? |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
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Post Number: 530 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 12:21 am: |      |
Is she adopted? |
Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby)
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Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 1:13 am: |      |
is it anything to do with her name? The names of any of her family members? any particular family members relevant? mother? father? grandparents? siblings? Is it relevant who she is describing her background to? is it one particular fact or thing she says that causes a false assumption? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 15841 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 2:28 am: |      |
Is a play on words relevant? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 5025 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 5:56 am: |      |
is her race relevant? |
Jondahr (Jondahr)
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Post Number: 210 Registered: 10-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 4:20 pm: |      |
Does she in some way have "more than one family"? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7426 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 7:35 pm: |      |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 530 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 12:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is she adopted? Andy_hornby (Andy_hornby) New member Username: Andy_hornby Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 1:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is it anything to do with her name? No. Names are important in many of my puzzles, but not this one.The names of any of her family members? ditto any particular family members relevant? mother? father? grandparents? siblings? Parents are most relevant but grandarents might be too. Siblings would probably be much less important. Is it relevant who she is describing her background to? somewhat is it one particular fact or thing she says that causes a false assumption? yes Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15841 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 2:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is a play on words relevant? yesish Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5025 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 5:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is her race relevant? yesish Jondahr (Jondahr) New member Username: Jondahr Post Number: 210 Registered: 10-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 4:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does she in some way have "more than one family"? no |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 5041 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 8:05 pm: |      |
is she black? white? Asian? Hispanic? Native American? Mixed-race? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7431 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5041 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 8:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is she black? white? Asian? Hispanic? Native American? Mixed-race?She is probably white, but maybe Asian. |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 9:24 pm: |      |
Is her family notorious? Have they wronged her in some way? Had she been cut out of the will? You did not answer if she is adopted? We are talking about a human being, right? maybe i have this thing in reverse; is she the one that has wronged or disgraced her family in some way? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7433 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 9:46 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 9:24 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is her family notorious? no Have they wronged her in some way? no Had she been cut out of the will? no You did not answer if she is adopted? sorry--it's irrel We are talking about a human being, right? yes maybe i have this thing in reverse; is she the one that has wronged or disgraced her family in some way? no |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 10:53 pm: |      |
Is her family the same race as hers? Should I get dwarfism outta my head? Her appearance have anything to do with anything? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7437 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 12:41 am: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 10:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is her family the same race as hers?yes Should I get dwarfism outta my head? well, it won't help you solve this puzzle Her appearance have anything to do with anything? it's irrel |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 5:39 pm: |      |
Has it anything to do with custom? religious belief? Wealth? Where she lives? Are those around her, friends, neighbors, affected by the cause behind the assumption? Or just Gwendolyn? Her parents? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7439 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 6:37 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 5:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Has it anything to do with custom? yes religious belief? yes| Wealth? no Where she lives? somewhat Are those around her, friends, neighbors, affected by the cause behind the assumption? probably Or just Gwendolyn? no Her parents? yes |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 6:44 pm: |      |
Did she marry outside her religion? Marry outside her race? Did she marry a man? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7442 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 7:55 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 42 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 6:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she marry outside her religion? irrel Marry outside her race? irrel Did she marry a man? irrel |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 8:55 pm: |      |
Is it relevant to nail down the religion? The custom? The country this took place in? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7445 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 9:35 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 8:55 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is it relevant to nail down the religion? It would help a lot. This is a true story & the actual religion is Judaism, which works very well for this puzzle. The puzzle does NOT require esoteric religious knowledge. The custom? It's not just one custom The country this took place in? It would help a lot. This is a true story & the actual country is the US, which works very well for this puzzle. |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Did she become a NUN? A priest? LOL! |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7446 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 9:44 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 54 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 9:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she become a NUN? no A priest? nooooooo LOL! |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:06 pm: |      |
Did she have a pig roast in the front yard or something? LOL! |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7449 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:16 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 58 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:06 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she have a pig roast in the front yard or something? LOL! No, but the solution is sort of funny |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:28 pm: |      |
And it does not just nvolve a Jewish holiday or celebration? Did she break some family tradition or rule? Did it involve some disobedience on her part? Was it work related? Is there any other person involved outside Gwendolyn and her family? This thing we are talking about, only occurred in a Jewish family or is applicable to any family that is religious? Was it legal what she did? Is it a typical or common thing done in any other religion had she not been Jewish? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 4572 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 12:15 pm: |      |
When describing the relevant bit of background, does she talk about: only herself? Her father? Her mother? Grandparents? Is a specific Jewish holiday relevant? a non-Jewish holiday? Do people ask what she does for [insert non-Jewish holiday], and she answers that she doesn't visit her family? Something along these lines? |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Post Number: 1626 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 6:20 pm: |      |
Did she miss services on a Jewish holiday. Or go to her college's football game at Temple instead of going to synagogue on Yom Kippur? I know some UConn students who did that in 2010, then truthfully told their parents they would be "at Temple the whole day". Or did she go to church/mosque/Hindu House of Holiness? Is one of her parents one religion and the other another? Did she convert? The parents, did they? Does she look like a man? And they ask her if she's circumsided (thinking she's a man) and she says "I doubt that's possible)? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7451 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 9:18 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) And it does not just nvolve a Jewish holiday or celebration? correct Did she break some family tradition or rule?\ b{ no} Did it involve some disobedience on her part? yope Was it work related? no Is there any other person involved outside Gwendolyn and her family? yope This thing we are talking about, only occurred in a Jewish family or is applicable to any family that is religious?yope Was it legal what she did? yes Is it a typical or common thing done in any other religion had she not been Jewish?not typical but fairly common Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4572 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 12:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) When describing the relevant bit of background, does she talk about: only herself? no Her father?She talks about her "Jewish family" or maybe her "Jewish background." Her mother? see previous answer Grandparents? dittoIs a specific Jewish holiday relevant? no a non-Jewish holiday? no Do people ask what she does for [insert non-Jewish holiday], and she answers that she doesn't visit her family? noSomething along these lines? no Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1626 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 6:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she miss services on a Jewish holiday. irrel Or go to her college's football game at Temple instead of going to synagogue on Yom Kippur? noI know some UConn students who did that in 2010, then truthfully told their parents they would be "at Temple the whole day". That's funny!Or did she go to church/mosque/Hindu House of Holiness? noIs one of her parents one religion and the other another? no Did she convert? noThe parents, did they? no Does she look like a man? no And they ask her if she's circumsided (thinking she's a man) and she says "I doubt that's possible)? no |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 2:09 am: |      |
Ok, you said this: When Gwendolyn describes her background, people assume that she's estranged from her family etc. In order for people to "assume" something about her just by listening to her give a run down on her background, well wouldn't that mean that there was something about her physical appearance that made them think that? Did how she dress have anything to do with it? These people who did the assuming, were they part of a group or sect that she is also a member of? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7454 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 5:30 pm: |      |
Chek101 (Chek101) New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 77 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 2:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Ok, you said this: When Gwendolyn describes her background, people assume that she's estranged from her family etc. In order for people to "assume" something about her just by listening to her give a run down on her background, well wouldn't that mean that there was something about her physical appearance that made them think that? No, I'm talking about listeners who already know her & hence know some other things about her. Find out what!!Did how she dress have anything to do with it?possibly but not necessarily These people who did the assuming, were they part of a group or sect that she is also a member of?possibly |
Chek101 (Chek101)
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Post Number: 86 Registered: 11-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 1:25 am: |      |
This sect thing, is it important to pursue or no? These people who are suprised that she gets along with her parents, are they Jewish as well? Are her parents very devout? I forgot if it's been asked, but is she dating someone who is not Jewish? Would it help to know where she works or what she does for a living? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7456 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2011 - 7:06 pm: |      |
New member Username: Chek101 Post Number: 86 Registered: 11-2011 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 1:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) This sect thing, is it important to pursue or no? yesish These people who are suprised that she gets along with her parents, are they Jewish as well? some are & some aren't Are her parents very devoutprobably not I forgot if it's been asked, but is she dating someone who is not Jewish? possibly but not necessarily Would it help to know where she works or what she does for a living? somewhat |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Post Number: 1149 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 2:31 pm: |      |
Is she atheist? |
Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue
Post Number: 7461 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 9:18 pm: |      |
Redwine (Redwine) New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1149 Registered: 1-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2011 - 2:31 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is she atheist?possibly but not necessarily |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 2395 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 3:21 pm: |      |
do they assume that she's not Jewish? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7463 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 7:18 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2395 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Monday, November 28, 2011 - 3:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) do they assume that she's not Jewish?no |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7469 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 10:09 pm: |      |
HINT: Find out more about Gwendolyn's Jewish family. |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
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Post Number: 593 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 5:16 am: |      |
WW2 relevant? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7481 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 3:16 pm: |      |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 593 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 5:16 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) WW2 relevant? no |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7493 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 2:34 am: |      |
HINT: Find out where Gwendolyn is on the social/political spectrum & where her family is. |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Post Number: 2389 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 7:47 am: |      |
Is she a Democrat? a Republican? a leftist? a rightist? Are her family members Democrats? Republicans? leftists? rightists? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7498 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 10:20 pm: |      |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2389 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 7:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is she a Democrat?yes a Republican? no a leftist?She's aleftist or very liberal a rightist? no Are her family members Democrats?yes yes}Republicans? no leftists?They are leftists or very liberal. rightists? no |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 2481 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 2:14 pm: |      |
is her family very wealthy? |
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 2482 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 2:19 pm: |      |
is her family very wealthy? |
Kdoc (Kdoc)
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Post Number: 1236 Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 11:33 pm: |      |
are you gwendolin? is there a difference in wealth between G and her parents? is G richer? her parents? so they move in different social circles? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7499 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 7:04 pm: |      |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2481 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 2:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is her family very wealthy? no, they're very middle class & so is she Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2482 Registered: 2-2011 Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1236 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 11:33 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) are you gwendolin? yes is there a difference in wealth between G and her parents?\b no, but irrel} is G richer? dittoher parents? ditto so they move in different social circles? they do move in different social circles, but that's because they have different interests & live in different cities |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7515 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 11:50 pm: |      |
HINT & RECAP: Gwendolyn & her family are all very middle-class & very liberal. It certainly works well for the puzzle if Gwendolyn's family is Jewish (mine is & I'm Gwendolyn), but this is not necessary. |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Post Number: 2447 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 11:52 pm: |      |
I'm really stuck (and everyone else seems to be stuck too)... Does she use a word to describe her background that could be misleading / misunderstood? You said the listeners already know other things about her. Do they know about her religion? her political views? that she is middle class? about her profession? her hobbies? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7563 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 7:47 pm: |      |
Doriana (Doriana) New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2447 Registered: 12-2010 Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 11:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I'm really stuck (and everyone else seems to be stuck too)... Does she use a word to describe her background that could be misleading yes/ misunderstood? 'misleading' is more accurate You said the listeners already know other things about her. Do they know about her religion? yes her political views? yesthat she is middle class? yes about her profession? yesher hobbies? irrel |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7573 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 6:06 pm: |      |
HINT: Think of a that is, paradoxically, often true of liberals, especially those who have lad little contact with non-liberals. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7574 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2012 - 6:09 pm: |      |
THE MESSAGE BELOW CORRECTS MY TYPOS IN THE MESSAGE ABOVE. HINT: Think of a characteristic that is, perhaps paradoxically, often true of liberals, especially those who have had little contact with non-liberals. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7583 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 7:05 pm: |      |
ANOTHER RECAP: Gwendolyn & her family are all middle-class liberals. Gwendolyn's family is Jewish & has had virtually no personal contact with conservatives. (This is true of many New York Jews.) Gwendolyn's family has an accurate view of what Gwendolyn's present life is life & thoroughly approves of it, BUT what Gwendolen says about her family makes the listeners (who are also middle-class liberals) think her family disapproves of her. Whether Gwendolyn herself is Jewish is irrel. |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
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Post Number: 657 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 7:58 pm: |      |
Can we assume that Gwen's lifestyle relevant? Is she married? living with someone? Is any of this, or anything similar, even remotely relevant? Does she unintentionally give the impression that her family was poor or working-class (e.g. by talking about how hard they worked)? Is Gwendolyn's profession or job relevant - in the puzzle, not in real life? Or could it be? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 8:22 pm: |      |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 657 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 7:58 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Can we assume that Gwen's lifestyle relevant? yes Is she married? possibly living with someone?This would work very well Is any of this, or anything similar, even remotely relevant? yes Does she unintentionally give the impression that her family was poor or working-class (e.g. by talking about how hard they worked)? no Is Gwendolyn's profession or job relevant - in the puzzle, not in real life? somewhatOr could it be? yes |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:01 pm: |      |
Is her profession related to the arts? Medicine? Education? Law? Or could it be called more a 'job' than a profession? Does she work with her hands? Is where she lives relevant, in a broad sense? (e.g. suburbs, country) Or regionally? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7589 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2012 - 5:39 pm: |      |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 658 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 11:01 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is her profession related to the arts? possibly Medicine? ditto Education? ditto Law? ditto Or could it be called more a 'job' than a profession?{no--& that's important for the puzzle} Does she work with her hands? only if the work counts as a profession, such as being an artist or a surgeon Is where she lives relevant, in a broad sense? (e.g. suburbs yope, country yope) Or regionally?yope |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7601 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 9:14 pm: |      |
HINT: Find out what the listeners think about Gwendolyn's family's religion & politics. |
Dfxie (Dfxie)
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| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 3:17 am: |      |
is she a lesbian? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7606 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 7:19 pm: |      |
Dfxie (Dfxie) New member Username: Dfxie Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2012 Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 - 3:17 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is she a lesbian? possibly but not necessarily |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7628 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 7:52 pm: |      |
RECAP: Add the following to the puzzle statement: Gwendolyn & her family are all middle-class liberal professionals. Gwendolyn's family knows what her lifestyle is like. Gwendolyn's family are New York Jews (I'm Gwendolyn & mine are) & it would be particularly good if Gwendolyn were a lesbian (although I'm not). |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
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Post Number: 679 Registered: 8-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 9:44 pm: |      |
Is she an activist? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7633 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 10:13 pm: |      |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 679 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 9:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is she an activist? Possibly but not necessarily (I'm not. I'm too lazy & have too little tolerance for rhetoric & slogans) |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Post Number: 1684 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 2:47 am: |      |
Are they parents conservative Jews as in the branch of Judaism? And Gwendolyn says her parents are "Conservative Jews". And they think she means the political philosophy? Would this work if Gwendolyn and her parents were communists? Socialists? Libertarians? Conservatives? Fascists? Anarchists? Panticommunists (oppose private undergarments)? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7655 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 4:22 pm: |      |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1684 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 2:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are they parents conservative Jews as in the branch of Judaism? possibly, but they are more likely to be Reform (a more liberal b branch And Gwendolyn says her parents are "Conservative Jews". noAnd they think she means the political philosophy?but the listener does thing G's parents are very conservative in the social & political sense Would this work if Gwendolyn and her parents were communists? yes Socialists? yesLibertarians? noConservatives? no Fascists? noAnarchists? probably notPanticommunists (oppose private undergarments)? nooooooooooo |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2012 - 8:02 pm: |      |
"Panticommunism: Even Marx didn’t mean for the abolition of private property to go that far." |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
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Post Number: 1693 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 5:57 pm: |      |
Reform Party relevant? Ross Perot? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7659 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 6:19 pm: |      |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1693 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 5:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Reform Party relevant? no Ross Perot? no. Remember, Gwendolyn & her family are all liberal. (See above.) |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7663 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2012 - 8:33 pm: |      |
HINT: What might a liberal say about her exclusively liberal background that might make listeners think her background is conservative? |
Kdoc (Kdoc)
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Post Number: 1237 Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 9:03 pm: |      |
Did she say her parents were narrow minded? that her upbringing was narrow? that her parents had only one point of view? that she wasn't exposed to other viewpoints? did she refer in some way to the fact that her family had one fixed viewpoint? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 7682 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 9:21 pm: |      |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1237 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2012 - 9:03 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did she say her parents were narrow minded?See next answer that her upbringing was narrow? yesthat her parents had only one point of view? yesthat she wasn't exposed to other viewpoints? yes did she refer in some way to the fact that her family had one fixed viewpoint? yes *********** SPOILER ************* Clever Hannah to the rescue!! I like to tell people that I come from a very narrow, insular Jewish background, where there was only one acceptable way of living & thinking & anyone who didn't toe the line was beyond the pale. This makes most people assume my parents were Orthodox Jews who expected me to be Orthodox as well as marry early & have lots of kids. They figure I must be estranged from my family, since I'm an unmarried & childless atheist who doesn't consider herself Jewish even in a cultural sense. But my particular sort of insular Jewish background was characteristic of many NY Jews: you had to go to college, get an advanced degree, enter a profession, & be liberal. I've done all that -- so my parents have been happy with my lifestyle (although if I had had wanted to pursue a lifestyle they wouldn't have liked, I would have done so.) Thanks eternally for solving it Hannah, & may you all please check out my new puzzle!! |