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Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 4:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

First of all, I realize that yes, I should really keep it to 3 puzzles at a time. But a) I HAD to write post this before I forgot it and b) I feel I have enough free time to keep up with four puzzles. Okay, so, here's the puzzle!

He looked at a book and killed himself. Seconds later, a discovery was made that would have saved his life.
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Mods: If I'm wrong and the whole 3-puzzles-at-a-time thing is actually a rule and not just a suggestion, then feel free to remove this puzzle from the forum.
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No worries, the 3-puzzles-thing is a suggestion, not a rule, though most people like to keep to 3 puzzles or less. =) Not a mod, but thought I'd answer anyway =)

He = H/A/M? He = himself = his?

True story? FYOI? FSEI? (from your own imagination? from someone else's imagination?)
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The book: a normal, printed, book?

Did he look at the cover of the book? At the title? Did he read something inside the book? If so, in the printed text? On some note left inside the book?
Did he infer from looking at the book that he was in some danger? Bookkeeping relevant?
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did the book contain instructions on how to kill oneself?

did the book contain information which upset him? like someone he loved loved someone else? or someone else had invented something that he was working on?
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did the book contain instructions on how to kill oneself?

did the book contain information which upset him? like someone he loved loved someone else? or someone else had invented something that he was working on?
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I'm glad I'm not the only one. I tend to keep back-up puzzled saved in my email, so that when one is solved, I have the next ready to go.

Did he think he would die anyway? Did he think he had done something wrong? Did he think something tragic had occurred?

If yes to any of the above, was he right?
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He = H/A/M? He = himself = his? Yes.

True story? FYOI? FSEI? (from your own imagination? from someone else's imagination?) FYOI
The book: a normal, printed, book? yes

Did he look at the cover of the book? no At the title? no, although finding the title *might* help Did he read something inside the book? Yes! If so, in the printed text? Yes On some note left inside the book? no
Did he infer from looking at the book that he was in some danger? no Bookkeeping relevant? no
did the book contain instructions on how to kill oneself?

did the book contain information which upset him? YES! like someone he loved loved someone else? Not this though or someone else had invented something that he was working on? not this either

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I tend to keep back-up puzzled saved in my email, so that when one is solved, I have the next ready to go.

Did he think he would die anyway? no Did he think he had done something wrong? no Did he think something tragic had occurred? noish.

If yes to any of the above, was he right?
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Was he the author of the book? Did he personally know the author?

Was it a book of fiction? A manual for a science of some sort? A reference book, like a dictionary or an encyclopaedia? A history book?

Relevant where this took place (such as in which country)? Was it in a time of war or other public danger?

Did he kill himself actively (e.g., by shooting himself) or it was a passive reaction (e.g., upon reading the text he suffered a stroke)?

Relevant how old he was at the time? Did he have children? Relevant?

Is it relevant how he choose to kill himself?
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Was he the author of the book? no Did he personally know the author? no

Was it a book of fiction? yes A manual for a science of some sort? A reference book, like a dictionary or an encyclopaedia? A history book? so no to the rest

Relevant where this took place (such as in which country)? no, not relevant Was it in a time of war or other public danger?

Did he kill himself actively (e.g., by shooting himself) this one or it was a passive reaction (e.g., upon reading the text he suffered a stroke)?

Relevant how old he was at the time? yope Did he have children? Relevant? but children are not relevant

Is it relevant how he choose to kill himself? no
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Was the book published in his lifetime? Is this relevant?

A discovery was made seconds after he killed himself?

Did he kill himself within a minute of reading what he read? an hour? a day? a week? a month? a year? longer?
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Was the book published in his lifetime? no Is this relevant? YES!!!!!

A discovery was made seconds after he killed himself? yes

Did he kill himself within a minute of reading what he read? this one or... an hour? ...this one a day? a week? a month? a year? longer?
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**********BLOOPER ALERT**********
Shez asked:
Did the book contain instructions on how to kill oneself? I did not answer this, the answer is no.
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Did what he read make him sad? Scared? Angry?

It was a fiction book...was it romance? comedy? mystery? historical fiction? science fiction? is any of this relevant?

Is it relevant who made the discovery?

If the discovery had been made a day earlier, would he have still killed himself?

If the discovery had been made earlier, but he didn't know about the discovery would he have still killed himself?
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Did what he read make him sad? this one Scared? Angry?

It was a fiction book...was it romance? comedy? mystery? historical fiction? science fiction? is any of this relevant? Unless you want to find out the title, which I admit *might* help some, no, it's not relevant. But I would say fantasy.

Is it relevant who made the discovery? no

If the discovery had been made a day earlier, would he have still killed himself? NO!!! Good q!

If the discovery had been made earlier, but he didn't know about the discovery would he have still killed himself? YES! Another good q!
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Oh, and a welcome to the forum (from another newbie :-) ) Abigail17!
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Is it relevant who made the discovery?

Was the discovery related to the plotline in the book? Some fact unrelated to the plot in the book?

Was he sad because of the plotline in the book? (ie. someone in the book died)

Was he sad because he learned something random in the book that would cause him to be sad? (ie. some fact about a disease he already had. I'm stretching here but just trying to distinguish the two ideas)

Thank you =) I had an account on here years ago and just remembered about this site again
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Is it relevant who made the discovery? again, no...

Was the discovery related to the plotline in the book? this one Some fact unrelated to the plot in the book?

Was he sad because of the plotline in the book? (ie. someone in the book died) no

Was he sad because he learned something random in the book that would cause him to be sad? (ie. some fact about a disease he already had. I'm stretching here but just trying to distinguish the two ideas) no

Thank you =) I had an account on here years ago and just remembered about this site again
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Was he reason for killing himself ...guilt? depression (covers a multitude I know)? Financial worries? concern over his health? Did he feel wronged by someone?

Was he suicidal before reading the book ? Did he actually read the entire book? or just a few pages? one page? the dedication perhaps? the page with all the copyright info?
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If the book was published within his lifetime, would he still have killed himself? Did he know the date when the book was published?
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Was he reason for killing himself ...guilt? depression this one (covers a multitude I know)? Financial worries? concern over his health? Did he feel wronged by someone?

Was he suicidal before reading the book ? no Did he actually read the entire book? or just a few pages? one page? the dedication perhaps? the page with all the copyright info? THIS ONE!!!!

If the book was published within his lifetime, would he still have killed himself? most likely not Did he know the date when the book was published? at the time he killed himself, yes
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Was the book valuable? Was he the owner of the book? Is that relevant?
Was he the author of the book? Related to the author?
Was the date of publishing also the date of first release? Is that relevant?
Did he misunderstand the date of publishing?

So, a man reads the copyright info of a book and kills himself. He wouldn't have done so if the book was published within his lifetime. A certain discovery could have saved his life. Is that correct?

Was the discovery connected with a book? With the date of publishing?
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Is the man's occupation relevant?
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Was the book valuable? Was he the owner of the book? Is that relevant?
Was he the author of the book? Related to the author?
Was the date of publishing also the date of first release? Is that relevant? no to all of the above
Did he misunderstand the date of publishing? YES!!

So, a man reads the copyright info of a book and kills himself. He wouldn't have done so if the book was published within his lifetime. A certain discovery could have saved his life. Is that correct? Right

Was the discovery connected with a book? With the date of publishing? THIS ONE!
Is the man's occupation relevant?no
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Was the date a famous or important date?
Did he think it was?
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Was the date a famous or important date?
Did he think it was? answer: e) none of the above :-)
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Public domain relevant?
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Public domain relevant? no
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was the printed date a future date?
was it misprinted in the book?
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was the printed date a future date? no
was it misprinted in the book? no
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So he knew the date of the publishing however he misunderstood it, correct? Did he suffer from some sort of amnesia? Some other disease? Is someone else relevant?
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So he knew the date of the publishing however he misunderstood it, correct? Yope Did he suffer from some sort of amnesia? Some other disease? Is someone else relevant? no to rest
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Was the way the date was written relevant e.g. in the US today's date would be written 02/04/2012 where in the UK and Ireland it's written 04/02/2012. Anything like this?
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Was the way the date was written relevant e.g. in the US today's date would be written 02/04/2012 where in the UK and Ireland it's written 04/02/2012. Anything like this? no
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did he read only copyright info page?

the discovery was that he picked the wrong book?

he took a bet about the publish date of book? something similar?
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did he read only copyright info page? this time he did

the discovery was that he picked the wrong book? no

he took a bet about the publish date of book? something similar? yesish
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RECAP:
A man reads the copyright information of a certain book. He notices the date of the book. By doing this, he realizes he has misunderstood the date of publishing. He kills himself within minutes/hours of realizing this. If the book had been published within his lifetime, he probably would have lived. Age is yopishly relevant. The book's genre is fantasy.
If I don't get a reply in 96 hours, I'll post a hint as well.
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Is plagiarism relevant? Does the date on the book impact him financially? Any inheritance considerations?

Would this work for a thriller? horror? Romantic novel? or is fantasy the only genre that suits.
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Is plagiarism relevant? Does the date on the book impact him financially? Any inheritance considerations? No to all

Would this work for a thriller? horror? Romantic novel? or is fantasy the only genre that suits. It would work for any book with a certain element.
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Is the element: supernatural? futuristic?
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Is the element: supernatural? futuristic? THIS ONE!!!!!!!
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Um, was it 1984?
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Um, was it 1984? If you mean 'Is the publication date 1984', then no.
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I think she was asking if the book was 1984.

Did he misinterpret the publication date and think the book was describing past events? Current events?
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Correct, Balin.
Was the title of the book 1984?
I would guess not. I suppose if it were it would have come to your mind instead of all the confusion created by my lack of clarity, but it never hurts to check.

Did he expect that the book was predictive at all?
Was it, like 1984, a novel which was futuristic when written but is now set in the past?
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Wild shot in the dark:
Was the man ill/unconscious/sleeping, then he woke up, saw the book with its title - let's say 2020 - considered it as a date of publishing, guessed that he'd been off for a long time and all his relatives/beloved ones have passed away long time ago - so he committed suicide?
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I think she was asking if the book was 1984. Oh.

Did he misinterpret the publication date and think the book was describing past events? Current events? This one!
Correct, Balin.
Was the title of the book 1984? No
I would guess not. I suppose if it were it would have come to your mind instead of all the confusion created by my lack of clarity, but it never hurts to check.

Did he expect that the book was predictive at all? Yope
Was it, like 1984, a novel which was futuristic when written but is now set in the past? No
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Did this happen in present time? in the past? way in the past?
Was the book published before the man was born? during his lifetime? just recently before he got the book?
Did he think the book was published earlier? later? than it actually was? Did he think the publishing date was in the future?
Did he read anything else in the book besides the publishing date? or was it just the fact that a book was published at that date which upset him?
Did he relate anything of what he read to himself? like that he will soon die?
Was the publishing date in the book correct?
Is the exact date relevant? or just the year?
Was the publishing date written in the usual Gregorian calendar date?
Did the man mistake some other information as publishing date?
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Did this happen in present time? in the past? way in the past? It could be present time, or slightly (As in 10-20 years or so) in the future)
Was the book published before the man was born? \b(This one!
during his lifetime? just recently before he got the book?
Did he think the book was published earlier? later? than it actually was? He thought it was published later than it actually was Did he think the publishing date was in the future? no
Did he read anything else in the book besides the publishing date? This time, no. He had read the book before or was it just the fact that a book was published at that date which upset him? no
Did he relate anything of what he read to himself? like that he will soon die? no to both
Was the publishing date in the book correct? yes
Is the exact date relevant? or just the year? neither really. All you need to know is that the book was published a fair amount of time before he was born.
Was the publishing date written in the usual Gregorian calendar date? Yes
Did the man mistake some other information as publishing date? no
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So a man read a book that would have been futuristic when it was published. Correct?
Later he looked at the publication date on the book. Also correct?
Relevant how much time passed between the above two events? If so, less than one day? less than one week? one month? one year? Or did more than one year pass?
After looking at this date, did he understand completely when the book was published?
Did he have another misunderstanding about the book? the date? the present time?
Did he think the book related to him personally?
And then he killed himself a few minutes / hours later. Is that right?
Have we established exactly how he killed himself? Does it matter how it was done? Where it was done? Were there any others present when he died? Relevant?
Were there any other relevant people at all?
Is money involved in this puzzle? Animals? Crime? Complicated love affairs? It's LTPF. You never know.
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So a man read a book that would have been futuristic when it was published. Correct? Yes, there was a futuristic element
Later he looked at the publication date on the book. Also correct? Yes
Relevant how much time passed between the above two events? YES!!! If so, less than one day? less than one week? one month? one year? Or did more than one year pass? More than a year
After looking at this date, did he understand completely when the book was published? Yes
Did he have another misunderstanding about the book? the date? the present time? Other than the misunderstanding of the publishing date, no
Did he think the book related to him personally? Not really
And then he killed himself a few minutes / hours later. Is that right? Right
Have we established exactly how he killed himself? Does it matter how it was done? Where it was done? Were there any others present when he died? Relevant? No, none of this is relevant
Were there any other relevant people at all? No
Is money involved in this puzzle? Animals? Crime? Complicated love affairs? no to all It's LTPF. You never know. That's right. On one of my other puzzles I actually said the president was a hamster. :-)
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I saw that. :-)

The first time he read the book did he recognize the futuristic element as being futuristic? Did he think it had already happened/been invented/whatever? Was he expecting something to happen/ be invented/ whatever?

Ancient calendars relevant? Religion?
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The first time he read the book did he recognize the futuristic element as being futuristic? Yes, I would suppose it was more predictive, now that I think about it. Did he think it had already happened/been invented/whatever? So noWas he expecting something to happen/ be invented/ whatever? YES!!

Ancient calendars relevant? Religion? no to both
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Relevant what he was expecting? If so, an event? a war? an invention? someone to be born/come into power/do something? a law? Something else?
Did it come to pass?
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Relevant what he was expecting? Yesish If so, an event? a war? an invention? This one someone to be born/come into power/do something? a law? Something else?
Did it come to pass? It did indeed...eventually *evil grin*
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Did he think a thing would be invented in the future? But when he saw the date, he realized that this thing should have been invented already? Which he knew it had not been?
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Did he think a thing would be invented in the future? Yes! But when he saw the date, he realized that this thing should have been invented already? Yes with slight -ish Which he knew it had not been? Correct!
Shall I $poil or do you want to work on it a little more? (Not much of anything left though)
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If I don't get any replies in 72 hours, I'll post the $poiler
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Is his profession relevant?
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Is his profession relevant? No
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Is the specific invention relevant? If so, a time machine? If not that, is it related to healthcare? transportation? education? warfare?

Did he need the invention on this particular day? He hadn't needed it before that day?
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This is confusing me .. didn't he think the book was published later than it actually was? and not earlier?
Was there any invention described in this book? a completely fictitious thing at the time when the book was written? but as the man thought the book was written just recently he concluded that this invention actually has been made already and the author knew about?
Was it an invention the man was working on himself? (and now understood as if the thing already exists ..?)
Relevant how he came to the wrong conclusion about the publication date? Was the century omitted in the date? (like 05-01-99, which could mean 1 May 1999, but also 1 May 1899)
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If he had been aware that the invention had already been made, would he have used the invention? Was he ill? Was the invention a cure to his illness? A sort of treatment?

BTW, you haven't replied to my last post on Feb 8, 8.38 - But from the later responses I guess I was wrong...
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Is the specific invention relevant? Not unless you want to find out the book's title If so, a time machine? No If not that, is it related to healthcare? transportation? This one education? warfare?

Did he need the invention on this particular day? No He hadn't needed it before that day? No, he had not needed it before then. Watch out for FAs

This is confusing me .. didn't he think the book was published later than it actually was? and not earlier? Yes, he thought it was published later than it was, not earlier. If I said something else, I apologize for any confusion.
Was there any invention described in this book? Yes! a completely fictitious thing at the time when the book was written? Yes! but as the man thought the book was written just recently he concluded that this invention actually has been made already and the author knew about? No.
Was it an invention the man was working on himself? (and now understood as if the thing already exists ..?) No
Relevant how he came to the wrong conclusion about the publication date? No, not really Was the century omitted in the date? (like 05-01-99, which could mean 1 May 1999, but also 1 May 1899)
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If he had been aware that the invention had already been made, would he have used the invention? YES!! Was he ill? Was the invention a cure to his illness? A sort of treatment? No to all

BTW, you haven't replied to my last post on Feb 8, 8.38 - But from the later responses I guess I was wrong... Sorry about that! But yes, you were wrong :-(.
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Transportation: by air? on the sea? on the land? Plane, rocket, submarine?
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Was it a way of transportation that actually has been invented by now? that might be put into work within the next few decades? or rather something that probably never will exist in real life? (antigravitation?)
Transportation in space relevant? ionic or photonic propulsion?
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Transportation: by air? on the sea? on the land? Plane, rocket, submarine? Difficult to say. I suppose it's by air, although not a plane or rocket.
Was it a way of transportation that actually has been invented by now? No that might be put into work within the next few decades? Most likely this, but could be... or rather something that probably never will exist in real life? (antigravitation?) ...this
Transportation in space relevant? ionic or photonic propulsion? Um...hang on *googles* Not that.
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If I don't have any posts in 24 hours, I'll $poil (really, this puzzle is almost complete...just a few details left!)
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A post to keep you from posting the $poiler .. : )
Did he think this new way of transportation was invented already? was put into practice and available? did he need it? in order to get somewhere? in order to escape from somewhere?
or was he afraid of the possibility that this thing could already be available? for everyone?
Was it a means of transportation for people? animals? goods? something else?
Did he put money into the development of new means of transportation?
Would the fact that this new way of transportation has been discovered prove something else? something that was important for the man?
Relevant where the man is when he reads the book? when he discovers the publication date?
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A post to keep you from posting the $poiler .. : ) Grrr...:-)
Did he think this new way of transportation was invented already? was put into practice and available? did he need it? in order to get somewhere? in order to escape from somewhere?
or was he afraid of the possibility that this thing could already be available? for everyone? No to all
Was it a means of transportation for people? This one mostly animals? goods? something else? But could be the others
Did he put money into the development of new means of transportation? No
Would the fact that this new way of transportation has been discovered prove something else? something that was important for the man? No to all
Relevant where the man is when he reads the book? No when he discovers the publication date? Yes!
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I'm rather tired of this puzzle, and want to post a new one, so I'll just
**********SPOIL**********

A man looks at a book and kills himself. Seconds later, a discovery is made that would have saved his life.
A young boy's teacher reads The Twenty-One Balloons to him at school in, say, 2011. The book contains a prediction that 'soon', we will be able to walk into a room in, say, New York, and walk out of the room and be in, say, Atlanta. Instantly the boy wants to travel by this means of transportation. He eventually makes this his life goal, and saves and saves for the ticket, which he expects to be expensive. Jump to 70 years later, the time of our puzzle statement. The young boy is now an old man, and he decides to reread the book to keep up his spirits. Imagine his dismay when he realizes that this book was published in 1947 and that if this transportation hasn't been invented by now, it might never be, and kills himself from depression. Of course, seconds later, a scientist figures out exactly how to make this kind of transportation work, and knowledge of that would, of course, have saved his life.
In case you're wondering about the title, in The Twenty-One Balloons, the author writes, "There are two types of transportation". I, of course, modified it to five types of puzzling, even though there are more like 14 if you count the different types of rulebreakers!
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Oh, don't forget to look for my NEW puzzle at the bottom of the page!
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OH!!! I've read The Twenty-One Balloons, but I *completely* forgot that bit!!! (I was more interested in the Gourmet Government chapters =P. Sadly, he did not get there in time to haz cheezburgur at the A family's place. *is sure that is what they had*)
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I wouldn't mind a cheezburgur from the A's either (Or spaghetti from the I's)! Maybe you could go there in Lateral Adventure land and order one for the kitteh waiting for you in the next room in my latventure...(hint hint)
Yeah, The Twenty-One Balloons is SUCH a good book. I recommend it to anyone who has not read it!
And completely off-topic... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8922875251875301807

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