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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Viviana is a teacher who always says, "You don't seem to have a speech impediment," in response to something students often say. What is it and how come?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 7:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the students apologizing for something? For not knowing the answer and taking the time to think over their response?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 7:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)
Are the students apologizing for something? no For not knowing the answer and taking the time to think over their response? no
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the supposed speech involve impediment repeating something? Mispronouncing something? Accentuating something? Is it a slang word? Is it a common word which youths often misuse?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 - 11:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Does the supposed speech involve impediment repeating something? noMispronouncing something? no Accentuating something? no Is it a slang word?n/a Is it a common word which youths often misuse? n/a
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 12:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the thing said not a word? For instance, "um"?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 1:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

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Is the thing said not a word? no For instance, "um"? no
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 2:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she mishear what one of the students had said? Or had she misinterpreted what they had said?

Would this more likely happen in the UK or the US?
Could this only happen in the English language?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Did she mishear what one of the students had said?no Or had she misinterpreted what they had said?b{ no}

Would this more likely happen in the UK or the US?see next answer
Could this only happen in the English language? as far as I know
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a relevant regional accent in play here? issue have to do with a difference between British English and US English?
Is lazy pronunciation in use here (like "on accounta" vice "on account of"-which is not great English in either case)?
Are students asking if they may ask a question?
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Wildcard (Wildcard)
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:28 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)
Is there a relevant regional accent in play here? no issue have to do with a difference between British English and US English? no
Is lazy pronunciation in use here (like "on accounta" vice "on account of"-which is not great English in either case)? no
Are students asking if they may ask a question?yope -- GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD QUESTION!!!!!!!
Wildcard (Wildcard)
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the students asking if the teacher will hear/take questions? Are students asking if they may speak? Or if it is their turn to speak?
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do they say 'can I ask a question' and she thinks they should have said 'may', because 'can' implies physically being able to rather than permission? (Which I'm pretty sure is entirely untrue, but anyway).
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*thinks Enjay-the-Devoner has probably got it* =D yay!
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Monday, February 20, 2012 - 11:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)
Are the students asking if the teacher will hear/take questions? yes Are students asking if they may speak? see previous answerOr if it is their turn to speak? see previous answer
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2012 - 3:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)
Do they say 'can I ask a question' and she thinks they should have said 'may', because 'can' implies physically being able to rather than permission? yes(Which I'm pretty sure is entirely untrue, but anyway). It certainly isn't entirely untrue; it's a traditional distinction that some people still adhere to & some don't (although the ability in question can be mental rather than physical.) I do: 'Vivian' is another name for Nimue in some Arthurian literature.

********** SPOILER ***************
When Vivian's students ask her, "Can I ask a question?" she says, "You don't seem to have a speech impediment" to underscore the fact that they should have said 'may.' Sorry it was so easy, & please check out my replacement puzzle, which won't be. . . I hope.
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My english teacher always made that distinction . If you asked 'Can I go to the bathroom?' he would reply "Well I'm sure you can, but would you like to?" or something similar. He was quite a jocular man mind you and he always said this with a smile.

He actually died last year and I mention this because he was the subject of my first ever puzzle on this forum back in February 2007.
Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had a friend who worked in a store, & when customers asked her, "Can I use your bathroom?" she would reply, "I have no idea."

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