| Author | Message | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 141 Registered: 1-2012 |
What meant nothing to him was the end of science as they knew it. Yes, this is Potato's recent puzzle statement with just one change. The solution is entirely different, I assure you. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16470 Registered: 4-2010 |
Space shuttle program relevant? Don't worry; I rip off LTPF puzzle statements with entirely new solutions all the time. It's an unwritten rule that it's OK as long as you credit the source. | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 142 Registered: 1-2012 |
Space shuttle program relevant? No | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5345 Registered: 9-2010 |
*is falling asleep* *yawn* cheezburgur relevant? I suspect it's only relevant cos I don't have any...=( the cheezburgur bugz must have got them... I'll think of better questions tomorrow, hopefully! | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 1306 Registered: 7-2010 |
He = HAM? True story? FYOI? FSEI? [LTPF list of centuries], please? Copernicus relevant? Is a dog involved? Any of these relevant? Math? Physics? Chemistry? Biology? Medicine? Computer science? Astronomy? Engineering? Sports? Economy? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1964 Registered: 9-2009 |
Charles Darwin relevant? Evolution theory? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5346 Registered: 9-2010 |
potato and rbruma win on better questions. *has run out of better questions cos they asked them first* *will wait to see the answers* =D | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 144 Registered: 1-2012 |
*is falling asleep* *yawn* cheezburgur relevant? I suspect it's only relevant cos I don't have any...=( the cheezburgur bugz must have got them... poor kayleekitteh! *givez cheezburgur and cheezburgur bugz repelant* I'll think of better questions tomorrow, hopefully! He = HAM? No/Yes/Yes True story? This one FYOI? FSEI? [LTPF list of centuries], please? 21st century Copernicus relevant? No Is a dog involved? No Any of these relevant? Math? This one Physics? Chemistry? Biology? Medicine? Computer science? Astronomy? Engineering? Sports? Economy? Charles Darwin relevant? Not really Evolution theory? This one potato and rbruma win on better questions. *has run out of better questions cos they asked them first* *will wait to see the answers* =D Answered! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16476 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Beagle..." of course. Is "he" an ape? Another primate? Is he alive? Dead? A fossil? Skeleton (complete or incomplete)? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 146 Registered: 1-2012 |
"Beagle..." of course. Huh? Is "he" an ape? Another primate? No to both Is he alive? This one Dead? A fossil? Skeleton (complete or incomplete)? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2816 Registered: 2-2011 |
is he a mammal? reptile? bird? fish? insect? amphibian? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16483 Registered: 4-2010 |
Kyeann: "Beagle" referring to Darwin's ship as a hint to evolution in the puzzle. Figured it had to be somehow relevant. | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 148 Registered: 1-2012 |
is he a mammal? reptile? bird? This one fish? insect? amphibian? Kyeann: "Beagle" referring to Darwin's ship as a hint to evolution in the puzzle. Figured it had to be somehow relevant. Ohh...I didn't know that! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2825 Registered: 2-2011 |
was it an action the bird performed? did the bird find or retrieve a particular object? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 151 Registered: 1-2012 |
was it an action the bird performed? This one did the bird find or retrieve a particular object? No | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 164 Registered: 1-2012 |
RECAP: What meant nothing to him was the end of science as they knew it. "He" is an adult, living, male bird who performed some relevant action. Math and evolution are relevant. Google is NOT ALLOWED (anymore) on this puzzle. I'm very sorry to all of you, but once you find certain details, Googling would $poil the puzzle. *evil grin at hidden hint* | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16502 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are Darwin's finches relevant? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 170 Registered: 1-2012 |
Are Darwin's finches relevant? No, other than that they're birds. But don't concentrate on that! | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 735 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is he a budgie or other talking bird? Or just a generic bird? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2828 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the bird eat a particular thing? use something as a tool? use reasoning to do something? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 175 Registered: 1-2012 |
Is he a budgie or other talking bird? YES!!! But not a budgie Or just a generic bird? So no. did the bird eat a particular thing? use something as a tool? use reasoning to do something? This one! | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 737 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is he, maybe, an African gray parrot? (No, I didn't google.) | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 180 Registered: 1-2012 |
Is he, maybe, an African gray parrot? Yes! (No, I didn't google.) | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 232 Registered: 5-2010 |
Could the parrot actually speak and is it relevant? Is a breeding program involved? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2850 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he work out how to get at some food? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 215 Registered: 1-2012 |
Could the parrot actually speak and is it relevant? Yes! Is a breeding program involved? No did he work out how to get at some food? No, OTWT | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 236 Registered: 5-2010 |
So, something the parrot said is relevant? Were "they" really scientists? WAS it really the end of any science, or did they have a false assumption? Did the parrot say a phrase or a single word? Make a sound? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2855 Registered: 2-2011 |
did what the parrot said make sense in that context? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 218 Registered: 1-2012 |
So, something the parrot said is relevant? YES! Were "they" really scientists? yes WAS it really the end of any science, or did they have a false assumption? Hard to answer w/out $poiling. More like that branch of science wouldn't be the same. Did the parrot say a phrase or a single word? Two words, at different times Make a sound? did what the parrot said make sense in that context? The first thing, NO. The second thing, yes | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 238 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the parrot say a number/numbers? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 221 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the parrot say a number/numbers? Yes! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2877 Registered: 2-2011 |
had the parrot done a sum? counted something? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2878 Registered: 2-2011 |
had the parrot done a sum? counted something? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 244 Registered: 5-2010 |
The same number both time or different numbers? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 226 Registered: 1-2012 |
had the parrot done a sum? counted something? This one! The same number both time or different numbers? Different! And a few questions on my Be Careful What You Wish For puzzle would be greatly appreciated! | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 247 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the parrot count the same objects (or non-objects...) both times? The same amount both times? Was any of the parrot's replies correct? Both? Did the scientists find out that the parrot couldn't actually count? =P | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 228 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the parrot count the same objects (or non-objects...) both times? Yes, he counted the same objects each time. The same amount both times? No! Was any of the parrot's replies correct? Both? One reply was correct. Did the scientists find out that the parrot couldn't actually count? =P They found out that he could indeed count. He could count very well. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was the parrot's first or second reply correct? Did he count fewer or more objects the first time? When he gave the wrong answer, did he answer with a number that was too high or too low? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 230 Registered: 1-2012 |
Was the parrot's first or second reply correct? DOYD of 'correct'. If pressed, though, I would say first response was incorrect, and second was correct. Did he count fewer or more objects the first time? More When he gave the wrong answer, did he answer with a number that was too high or too low? It was just...wrong. Not too high, not too low. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 251 Registered: 5-2010 |
Relevant what the parrot was counting? Real, solid objects? Did he count by vision? or touch? (perhaps picking the objects up one by one?) | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 234 Registered: 1-2012 |
Relevant what the parrot was counting? Not really. Real, solid objects? Yes Did he count by vision? or touch? (perhaps picking the objects up one by one?) Vision. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 252 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the scientists instruct the parrot to count the object? Was the point of the test (if that is what it was) to find out if the parrot could count or not? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 235 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the scientists instruct the parrot to count the object? Yes! Was the point of the test (if that is what it was) to find out if the parrot could count or not? Yes! (With VERY slight -ish) | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 257 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the parrot count on two seperate occasions, or was it just one occasion? (like, the same day, hour, minute..?) Relevant why the parrot at first gave the wrong answer? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 241 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the parrot count on two seperate occasions, or was it just one occasion? (like, the same day, hour, minute..?) One occasion, the same minute or so. Relevant why the parrot at first gave the wrong answer? YES! | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 260 Registered: 5-2010 |
I'm a little confused about this one... Was the parrot 'supposed' to answer the question wrong? Was it a trick? Did the parrot really not make a mistake? or make a mistake for a legit reason? Did the parrot not know the right word for answering the first question? (As if, for example, they showed him 11 object, but had only taught him to count to 10?) Speaking of which, were the parrot's replies both numbers between 1 and 10? 1 and 20? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 244 Registered: 1-2012 |
I'm a little confused about this one... Was the parrot 'supposed' to answer the question wrong? No Was it a trick? Yes-watch out for FAs! Did the parrot really not make a mistake? or make a mistake for a legit reason? This one, I suppose Did the parrot not know the right word for answering the first question? (As if, for example, they showed him 11 object, but had only taught him to count to 10?) He knew the right word Speaking of which, were the parrot's replies both numbers between 1 and 10? The first one was this. 1 and 20? The second isn't here. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 261 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was the parrot performing infront of an audience? (other than the scientists?) Was the second reply between 1 and 100? Was it zero? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 259 Registered: 1-2012 |
Was the parrot performing infront of an audience? (other than the scientists?) No Was the second reply between 1 and 100? Was it zero? It was zero! | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 265 Registered: 5-2010 |
So "zero" was the correct reply to the second question? Was the correct reply to the first question also "zero"? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 264 Registered: 1-2012 |
So "zero" was the correct reply to the second question? YES!!! Was the correct reply to the first question also "zero"? No | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 267 Registered: 5-2010 |
Which of the following statements are correct: They showed him a number of objects. Asked him to count them. He gave the wrong answer. They removed the objects. Asked him to count them again. He replied "zero". Relevant how many objects the parrot was shown the first time? Did the scientists try to fool the parrot? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 271 Registered: 1-2012 |
Which of the following statements are correct: They showed him a number of objects. True Asked him to count them.True He gave the wrong answer. TrueThey removed the objects. False Asked him to count them again. Fue (False+True) He replied "zero". True Relevant how many objects the parrot was shown the first time? no Did the scientists try to fool the parrot? Yes, might be misleading | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 275 Registered: 5-2010 |
When asked the second question, could the parrot see the objects? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 274 Registered: 1-2012 |
When asked the second question, could the parrot see the objects? Yes | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 278 Registered: 5-2010 |
I feel so stupid... I assume I'm missing something/having a FA -_-, Were objects removed between the first and the second count? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16598 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they show him zero objects the first time? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 276 Registered: 1-2012 |
Were objects removed between the first and the second count? No Did they show him zero objects the first time? No | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 281 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was the second question "How many objects were removed?" | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 280 Registered: 1-2012 |
Was the second question "How many objects were removed?" No | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 285 Registered: 5-2010 |
Balin, heeeelp me..! =/ Relevant how the question/s was phrased? Was the question/s oral? Were both questions identical? Were they both simple instructions to count objects? Relevant how many objects are involved? Relevant exactly what the parrot's reply was the fist time? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 16609 Registered: 4-2010 |
I'm trying... Could you please recap? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 286 Registered: 1-2012 |
Balin, heeeelp me..! =/ Relevant how the question/s was phrased? YES! Was the question/s oral? Yes, both were oral. Were both questions identical? No Were they both simple instructions to count objects? Yes Relevant how many objects are involved? Not particularly Relevant exactly what the parrot's reply was the fist time? Not really, I'll tell you it was five. I'm trying... Could you please recap? Okay. We have found out that 'he' is an adult, living African gray parrot. While counting something, he gave an incorrect answer ('Five'). This lead to a different question being asked, to which he answered 'zero'. | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1975 Registered: 6-2008 |
Was a general word like "objects" used for what should be counted? or a specific one (e.g., how many BIRDS are there? Did the first question incorrectly describe the objects to be counted? or equivalently, had the parrot been taught the wrong definition of the object(s)? To clarify, I'm imagining a scenario like the following: The parrot is shown a row of shapes, and asked "how many squares are there?". They intend that he will count them all, but in fact, all but five of the "squares" are really rectangles, and he doesn't count those. Then he is asked "how many circles are there", and correctly says "zero", showing that he isn't merely counting things, but knows the words for shapes too. | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 288 Registered: 1-2012 |
Was a general word like "objects" used for what should be counted? or a specific one (e.g., how many BIRDS are there? A specific word Did the first question incorrectly describe the objects to be counted? no or equivalently, had the parrot been taught the wrong definition of the object(s)? no To clarify, I'm imagining a scenario like the following: The parrot is shown a row of shapes, and asked "how many squares are there?". This would work fine for this scenario They intend that he will count them all, Right but in fact, all but five of the "squares" are really rectangles, This part is incorrect and he doesn't count those. Then he is asked "how many circles are there", and correctly says "zero", Er, something like this showing that he isn't merely counting things, but knows the words for shapes too. This is OTRT | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 293 Registered: 5-2010 |
Can we, for the sake of the puzzle, assume that the parrot is being asked qestions about the amounts of geometric figures? Does both questions start with "how many"? Are dogs relevant at all? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 289 Registered: 1-2012 |
Can we, for the sake of the puzzle, assume that the parrot is being asked qestions about the amounts of geometric figures? Sure Does both questions start with "how many"? No Are dogs relevant at all? No | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 295 Registered: 5-2010 |
Does either question start with "how many"? Or is the "question" more like an instruction, like "Count the ...whatever"? Was the scene, or picture, or whatever, that the parrot was looking at, identical when he gave the second reply, as when he gave the first reply? How many FA:s have I got? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 290 Registered: 1-2012 |
Does either question start with "how many"? No Or is the "question" more like an instruction, like "Count the ...whatever"? No, it was a question Was the scene, or picture, or whatever, that the parrot was looking at, identical when he gave the second reply, as when he gave the first reply? Yes How many FA:s have I got? I can't find any obvious ones. You were assuming that the questions started with 'How many', but that's been cleared. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 297 Registered: 5-2010 |
Are written numbers involved? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 291 Registered: 1-2012 |
Are written numbers involved? No | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 1979 Registered: 6-2008 |
Was either question phrased in the sense of "Can you tell me... ?", where the "real" question is hidden within a longer, rhetorical question? Was either phrased as "What is the number of... ?" If so, did the parrot think that one of the objects was supposed to have a number ON IT? Was there a good reason for NOT phrasing the questions starting with "How many"? I.e., would there not have been a way to ask the same question in this form? or was it just a coincidence of conversational speech that the question was phrased in some other (possibly more ambiguous) way? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 297 Registered: 1-2012 |
Was either question phrased in the sense of "Can you tell me... ?", where the "real" question is hidden within a longer, rhetorical question? No Was either phrased as "What is the number of... ?" No If so, did the parrot think that one of the objects was supposed to have a number ON IT? Was there a good reason for NOT phrasing the questions starting with "How many"? Yes I.e., would there not have been a way to ask the same question in this form? YES! or was it just a coincidence of conversational speech that the question was phrased in some other (possibly more ambiguous) way? So not this | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 304 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the question/s start with either of these words: what where how is? | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 302 Registered: 1-2012 |
Did the question/s start with either of these words: what This one where how is? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 307 Registered: 5-2010 |
Both questions starts with "what"? The parrot wasn't asked to do a sum, right? (as in, "what's two and three?) | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 305 Registered: 1-2012 |
Both questions starts with "what"? Yes, sorry, meant to say that originally. The parrot wasn't asked to do a sum, right? (as in, "what's two and three?) Right. | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 316 Registered: 5-2010 |
And he wasn't doing any other calculation (subtracting, dividing... have to be a real smart parrot to do that...) either, correct? Merely counting objects? *sigh* Did both questions start with "what is..?" | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 315 Registered: 1-2012 |
And he wasn't doing any other calculation (subtracting, dividing... have to be a real smart parrot to do that...) either, correct? Right Merely counting objects? Yope *sigh* Did both questions start with "what is..?" I'll give you the first two words: What shape... | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 320 Registered: 5-2010 |
If I figure out the question, will the puzzle be solved? Was the question something like: "What shape is green?" and they wanted/expected him to answer with a geometrical word, but he replied with a number? The second question was similar: "What shape is red?" And the answer should have been "circle", but the parrot was creative and replied "zero"? Please let this be it... or I'll suffer from sleepless nights over this puzzle. >_< | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 323 Registered: 1-2012 |
If I figure out the question, will the puzzle be solved? Sure! Was the question something like: "What shape is green?" VERY close and they wanted/expected him to answer with a geometrical word, YES!!! but he replied with a number? Yes! The second question was similar: "What shape is red?" Right And the answer should have been "circle", but the parrot was creative and replied "zero"? No Please let this be it... or I'll suffer from sleepless nights over this puzzle. >_< Shall I take pity on you and post the $poiler? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 324 Registered: 5-2010 |
No... I don't want to give up so close to the solution... *growls* Was the (first) question: "What shape is this?" "What shape is *number*?" "What shape is *geometrical word*?" Was either of the questions intended as an instruction for the parrot to count anything? DID the parrot actually count something? Am I stupid? -_-, | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 325 Registered: 1-2012 |
No... I don't want to give up so close to the solution... *growls* Okay, okay *holds hands up and backs away slowly* Was the (first) question: "What shape is this?" "What shape is *number*?" YES!!! Both questions actually! "What shape is *geometrical word*?" Was either of the questions intended as an instruction for the parrot to count anything? DID the parrot actually count something? Am I stupid? -_-, Clearly not, as I can now post the Alex, an African grey parrot, would often have an exercise in which he would count shapes. In this example, he might have two squares, three circles, and a triangle. His trainer said, "What shape two?" (as in, which shape are there two of?). Alex said, "Five" instead of 'square'. Frustrated, his trainer said, "Okay smarty, what shape five?" Alex said, "None," not only showing understanding of the concept of 'zero', but manipulating his trainer into letting him showing this off! (Wikipedia says it just shows he got bored. I got MY information from Nat Geo kids magazine, which is MUCH more reliable!) | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 326 Registered: 1-2012 |
Oh, and look for my NEW puzzle at the bottom of the page later today! | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2012 |
So sad how Alex unexpectedly died though :-( Weren't his last words something like "Be good, see you tomorrow. Love you"? From what I remember, this parrot would at times just get fed up, and in general had quite a temper. But if you were being trained all day to learn language, wouldn't you get bored at times too? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 325 Registered: 5-2010 |
I've not been this frustrated with a puzzle since 'Rainy day'. ,-_-, Good one, though! | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 327 Registered: 1-2012 |
So sad how Alex unexpectedly died though :-( Weren't his last words something like "Be good, see you tomorrow. Love you"? Yes, that is SO sad. :-( From what I remember, this parrot would at times just get fed up, and in general had quite a temper. But if you were being trained all day to learn language, wouldn't you get bored at times too? I've not been this frustrated with a puzzle since 'Rainy day'. ,-_-, Good one, though! Thanks! I forgot to Give Emma_nilsson a shiny gold star for most of the work and the solve! Bonus points to everyone else who worked on this! | ||
| Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
New member Username: Kyeannpepper Post Number: 328 Registered: 1-2012 |
And forgot to explain the significance of the title. This quote is from the movie "Underdog". Underdog just happens to be *gasp* a dog! Both dogs and parrots are animals. The relation to evolution was a total accident...Or was it... And my new puzzle will be posted within the next five minutes! |
