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Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16985 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 1:23 pm: |      |
Teachers always tell students to check their sources and proofread their work. Some people recently failed to follow this rule, and thus caused a lot of embarrassment. How? Note: This is based on a recent news story, so no GooglePedia on this one please. |
Jane (Jane)
New member Username: Jane
Post Number: 116 Registered: 4-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 5:18 pm: |      |
Are the people students? Did they both fail to check their sources and fail to proofread their work? Did all the people produce the same work? i.e. were they working together to produce something? Or are we dealing with a series of individual pieces of work? Was the embarrassment caused to the "people"? To anyone else? Did any of the sources not actually exist? Were any of the sources fictional characters? Did the people include something in their work which they would have removed if they had proofread it? Did they fail to include something they would have included if they had proofread it? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16988 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 5:51 pm: |      |
Are the people students? No Did they both fail to check their sources and fail to proofread their work? Yes, svv of "check sources" and "proofread work" Did all the people produce the same work? Yes i.e. were they working together to produce something? Or are we dealing with a series of individual pieces of work? Was the embarrassment caused to the "people"? Yes To anyone else? Yes Did any of the sources not actually exist? No Were any of the sources fictional characters? Yesish! Did the people include something in their work which they would have removed if they had proofread it? Yope Did they fail to include something they would have included if they had proofread it? Yope I should add that their failure to follow the rule is applied to a real-life, non-academic situation. So don't get caught up in that. |
Jane (Jane)
New member Username: Jane
Post Number: 118 Registered: 4-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 6:16 pm: |      |
Did their "work" contain words? Numbers? Images? Was it viewed by members of the public? Was it presented online? On a social network? In the news? In print? Was it presented orally? In song? Are the people politicians? A music group? Are the other people who were embarrassed quoted in the work? Mentioned in the work? Are the other people who were embarrassed in any way related to the people who did the work? Are there a lot of other people who were embarrassed? A small number? A whole country? |
Jane (Jane)
New member Username: Jane
Post Number: 119 Registered: 4-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 6:17 pm: |      |
And I really ought to ask: did the people who didn't proofread/check their sources use Wikipedia or another reference source? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16990 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 4:39 am: |      |
Did their "work" contain words? Numbers? Images? Was it viewed No... by members of the public? Was it presented online? On a social network? In the news? In print? Was it presented orally? No to this and rest In song? It was a song Are the people politicians? A music group? Neither Are the other people who were embarrassed quoted in the work? Mentioned in the work? Are the other people who were embarrassed in any way related to the people who did the work? No Are there a lot of other people who were embarrassed? One directly, more indirectly... A small number? A whole country? Indirectly!! |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 2031 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 1:15 am: |      |
Were they looking up the lyrics of a song? yet they found an incorrect version of the lyrics (e.g. a mondegreen) and sang that in front of a large group of people? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3030 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2012 - 8:22 pm: |      |
did the song celebrate something that hadn't actually happened? or not in the way portrayed in the song? |
Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn
Post Number: 1842 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2012 - 11:25 pm: |      |
Facebook messaging a possible $poyler. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16994 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 12:30 am: |      |
Were they looking up the lyrics of a song? No but OTRT yet they found an incorrect version Yes of the lyrics (e.g. a mondegreen) No and sang that in front of a large group of people? No but OTRT did the song celebrate something that hadn't actually happened? No or not in the way portrayed in the song? No Facebook messaging a possible $poyler. You got it. I had a hunch you might know this. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4121 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 10:09 am: |      |
Is the song an anthem? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 16998 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 4:09 pm: |      |
Is the song an anthem? Yes |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1457 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 4:52 pm: |      |
A national anthem? Should we find out of which country? Did they look up the music? Did they sing the song at any point? To the wrong tune? Pronouncing words wrong? Did they include verses that are not usually part of the anthem? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17000 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 12:38 am: |      |
A national anthem? Yes Should we find out of which country? You don't need to Did they look up the music? YesISH! Did they sing the song at any point? No, but... To the wrong tune? Yes Pronouncing words wrong? No Did they include verses that are not usually part of the anthem? Yesish... |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4123 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 10:42 am: |      |
Were they playing the anthem? Are they a band or orchestra? Would their mistake be a common one? would it be insulting to the country whose anthem it was? Ist he anthem particularly well known? I was hoping this would be an Enrico Pallazzo situation |
Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty
Post Number: 158 Registered: 9-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 11:52 am: |      |
Was the wrong tune the tune of another country's anthem? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17005 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 1:56 pm: |      |
Were they playing the anthem? Yes Are they a band or orchestra? No Would their mistake be a common one? No would it be insulting to the country whose anthem it was? Yes Is the anthem particularly well known? YES AND NO! I was hoping this would be an Enrico Pallazzo situation My school library doesn't have "The Naked Gun"; I was hoping to rent it. Ugh. Was the wrong tune the tune of another country's anthem? No, but OTRT |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1460 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 2:13 pm: |      |
Were they playing it instrumentally only? Without the words? Or does the anthem have no words to start with? Were they playing it in any kind of unusual way? Were they performing live? Should we find out where? Did they play completely the wrong song? Or a wrong variant of the real anthem? Did they play a former anthem of a country or anything like this? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17006 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 3:11 pm: |      |
Were they playing it instrumentally only? No Without the words? No Or does the anthem have no words to start with? No Were they playing it in any kind of unusual way? No Were they performing live? No Should we find out where? You don't need to Did they play completely the wrong song? YES Or a wrong variant of the real anthem? No... Did they play a former anthem of a country or anything like this? No... |
Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay
Post Number: 1461 Registered: 4-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 3:31 pm: |      |
Did they sing the correct words to the wrong tune? The wrong words too? Did they sing a different song with the same title? A parody version? Does the anthem have the same tune as another song, and they sang this one instead? Did they actually perform at all? Did they write the song down? Publish it? Have it performed by someone else? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 17007 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 8:42 pm: |      |
Did they sing the correct words to the wrong tune? The wrong words too? Did they sing a different song with the same title? A parody version? This. Does the anthem have the same tune as another song, and they sang this one instead? Did they actually perform at all? Did they write the song down? Publish it? Have it performed by someone else? **********SPOILER********** "Borat's Fake Kazakhstan National Anthem Plays By Mistake During Medal Ceremony" The song, which was featured in the 2006 Sacha Baron Cohen film, was downloaded in error by event organizers. During a recent sports event in Kuwait, the wrong national anthem for Kazakhstan played during the medal ceremony. Instead, it was the spoof from the 2006 satirical film starring Sacha Baron Cohen, Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan, that was heard throughout the arena at the 10th Arab Shooting Championship. Lyrics from the fake anthem include: "Kazakhstan's prostitutes are the cleanest in the region, except, of course, for Turkmenistan's." Article with video. Nice work everyone: Enjay for the solve; Gregory for the early $poyler; and Jane, Peter, Biograd, Shez, and Tardigradeparty for everything else. |
Jane (Jane)
New member Username: Jane
Post Number: 124 Registered: 4-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 2:15 am: |      |
That is hilarious! Thanks for bringing this to my attention! |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 2001 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 2:09 pm: |      |
Incredible! Poor girl, working probably hard for many hours/days/months, maybe years, to find out that a bunch of morons managed to do this. In her place I'd have definitely stepped out and leave in protest. Nonetheless, a great puzzle Matt. Thanks. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4125 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 2:33 pm: |      |
I don't believe it . I saw a news item on this and didn't make the connection. Very funny story. |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 2032 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 1:43 am: |      |
But the spoofed anthem is in English! How could anyone with half a brain think that's really the anthem of Kazakhstan?! |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 2033 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 4:07 am: |      |
But the spoofed anthem is in English! How could anyone with half a brain think that's really the anthem of Kazakhstan?! |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 174 Registered: 2-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2012 - 5:01 am: |      |
This must have done on purpose. No way could it have been accidental. |