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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 4:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Electoral races are long, frequently boring, and occasionally amusing. Candidates end up dropping out for various reasons, whether it be that they have no chance of winning, have been toppled by a scandal, or have fallen under opponents' accusations. I remember hearing about one political race where a candidate made an accusation about his opponent that I'm sure backfired. What did he say?
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US election?
If so, national? state? (If so, LTPF list of states) regional?
Time frame: 21st century? 20th? 19th? 18th?
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US election? Yes
If so, national? state? I think it was this, but irrel (If so, LTPF list of states) Irrel regional?
Time frame: 21st century? This 20th? 19th? 18th?
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Was the election during this cycle? Was it when Libertarian Gubernotorial Candidate in New York Warren Redlich called Anti-Prohibition Party candidate Kristin Davis a "slut" to which her campaign manager responded that although she used to be a madam, there is no evidence that she actually worked as a prostitute? (Keep in mind that she is the reason former governor Elliot Spitzer is now former governor Elliot Spitzer.)
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Also, along those lines, was "he" a major party candidate or a third party candidate? I'm thinking that third party candidates can sometimes get away with a lot more since their supporters are generally the only ones who take them seriously anyway.
Balin (Balin)
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Was the election during this cycle? I don't know Was it when Libertarian Gubernotorial Candidate in New York Warren Redlich called Anti-Prohibition Party candidate Kristin Davis a "slut" to which her campaign manager responded that although she used to be a madam, there is no evidence that she actually worked as a prostitute? Wow. Not this, but actually along the right lines (Keep in mind that she is the reason former governor Elliot Spitzer is now former governor Elliot Spitzer.)

Also, along those lines, was "he" a major party candidate or a third party candidate? I don't know and irrel I'm thinking that third party candidates can sometimes get away with a lot more since their supporters are generally the only ones who take them seriously anyway.
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Can we call the candidate Mr. Obamney? Did he insult another candidate? Call another candidate something bad? That he thought was untrue? But was actually true? The other way around?
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One thought.... Did he defend or deny a separate action by admitting to some other bad thing?
Balin (Balin)
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Can we call the candidate Mr. Obamney? Why not Did he insult another candidate? Yope Call another candidate something bad? No That he thought was untrue? But was actually true? I'm not sure how to answer this question, due to the circumstances. I'll assume he thought his accusation was true The other way around?

One thought.... Did he defend or deny a separate action by admitting to some other bad thing? No
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Is this IRL or fictional? or out of your own imagination?
Balin (Balin)
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Is this IRL or fictional? or out of your own imagination? Real life
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Was Obamney's opponent male? Or female? (If the latter, replace 'his' to 'her' where appropriate in later questions.) Older than Obamney? Younger? Is Obamney the incumbent? A challenger to the incumbent? How about the opponent: incumbent? Challenger? Any of this relevant?

Did Mr. Obamney say something about his opponent's past? If so, about his life before politics (e.g. his college days)? About non-political activities done whilst in politics (e.g. Clinton's affair)? His voting record? Affiliations/sponsors (e.g. "he's in the pockets of big business", etc.)? An alleged 'flip-flop'? Or was the accusation something about what the opponent would do in office if elected?

Did the accusation backfire because the opponent felt able to admit that it was actually/probably true without losing votes/popularity? (See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14342674 for a British example.) Because the accusation was also true about Mr. Obamney? Or at the very least was twisted by the opponent to sound like it could be true about Obamney?

Did the backlash from this comment lead to Obamney losing the election? Withdrawing from the contest before the election took place? Having to resign from office? Leave politics altogether?
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Was Obamney's opponent male? Or female? This (If the latter, replace 'his' to 'her' where appropriate in later questions.) Older than Obamney? Younger? Don't know and Irrel Is Obamney the incumbent? A challenger to the incumbent? How about the opponent: incumbent? Challenger? Any of this relevant? Irrel

Did Mr. Obamney say something about his opponent's past? Yes If so, about his life before politics (e.g. his college days)? About non-political activities done whilst in politics (e.g. Clinton's affair)? This His voting record? Affiliations/sponsors (e.g. "he's in the pockets of big business", etc.)? An alleged 'flip-flop'? Or was the accusation something about what the opponent would do in office if elected? No to rest

Did the accusation backfire because the opponent felt able to admit that it was actually/probably true without losing votes/popularity? (See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-14342674 for a British example.) No Because the accusation was also true about Mr. Obamney? Yes, if the accusation was true at all Or at the very least was twisted by the opponent to sound like it could be true about Obamney? It didn't need twisting

Did the backlash from this comment lead to Obamney losing the election? Withdrawing from the contest before the election took place? Having to resign from office? Leave politics altogether? Irrel and I don't know
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Ok, so Obamney's female opponent (what would you call her? *is too tired to think of a name*) had it alleged that she had done some relevant non-political thing whilst in politics, by Obamney. Had she done this thing with Obamney? Therefore implicating himself as well? Were sexual relations involved?
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Let's call her Michellary. As in a cross between Bachmann and Hillary.

Has Obamney been primarily a politician for his whole career? Or did he have another relevant profession? Same for Michellary? Is it relevant which party each of them belong to? Is this a primary or the general election? Relevant? Anything to do with speech-giving? Speech-writing?
Racist newsletters written in a candidate's name but not by the candidate himself/herself?
Balin (Balin)
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Ok, so Obamney's female opponent (what would you call her? *is too tired to think of a name*) had it alleged that she had done some relevant non-political thing whilst in politics, by Obamney. Had she done this thing with Obamney? Yes Therefore implicating himself as well? Yes Were sexual relations involved? Yes.

**********SPOILER**********

The candidate accused his female opponent of having an affair... with him. I don't know how the election turned out, but I'm sure that accusation backfired.

Nice solve Kaylee. New puzzle... eventually.
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Posted on Friday, May 11, 2012 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice puzzle Matt. Geez.. is like accusing one for dying because you fired the gun

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