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At some point in the last couple months, UConn's newspaper, The Daily Campus , printed an article that could have had a certain headline (although it didn't). I was really hoping they would print another, completely different article that could have the same headline, but they didn't.
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Hint: As with many of my puzzles, title is laterally relevant.
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Were you hoping they would print the other article because of the headline? Because of something else?

Would the two stories have anything in common except the headline? Is there one or more words in the headline which have double meanings? Which can be interpreted in more than one way?

Is the title part of a song? A play on part of a song?
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Was the other story ever written? Is it a story you know of? Is it a hypothetical story which would fit the headline?
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Were you hoping they would print the other article because of the headline? Noish Because of something else? Yes

Would the two stories have anything in common except the headline? Very little Is there one or more words in the headline which have double meanings? One, I suppose Which can be interpreted in more than one way? see last question

Is the title part of a song? Yes, but not within the context of the headline. Actually, I should add the word "allegedly" to that, at least for the first (actually printed) article. That part went quicker than I expected. A play on part of a song? See previous question.
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Was the other story ever written? Is it a story you know of? Is it a hypothetical story which would fit the headline? Do you write for this newspaper? Did you write either of the stories? Are you involved in editing the newspaper? Did you feature in either of the stories? Did anyone you know?
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Was the other story ever written? No Is it a story you know of? FA, I think Is it a hypothetical story which would fit the headline? Yes Do you write for this newspaper? Yes, irr Did you write either of the stories? No, FA - the second was never written Are you involved in editing the newspaper? No Did you feature in either of the stories? No Did anyone you know? Nobody I know personally, except for the author of the story that actually was written, who I know from the paper. Even if the second story was written, I probably wouldn't know the author personally.
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Was the printed story about any of the following:
sport?
politics?
one or more animals?
one or more people?
crime?
the environment?
money?
religion?
science?
behaviour?
camping?
fire?
bears?
Was it a news story? An editorial comment?
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Was the printed story about any of the following:
sport?
politics? Yes
one or more animals?
one or more people? Noish, I suppose
crime? Yope/yesish
the environment?
money? a part of it
religion?
science?
behaviour?
camping?
fire? no, except for svv of "fire"
bears?
Was it a news story? An editorial comment? It was "commentary", but it was not the actual editorial. All this means is that it was the opinion of the author and not the newspaper as a whole (and that it was longer than the editorial and not necessarily written by a member of the ed board). However, I suppose this would work for the editorial as well if it were the same thing.

Oh, and no to rest.
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Was the story about corporations? The financial crisis? Institutions? Governments? A specific incident? Legislation?

Would a sensible approach to this puzzle be to identify the headline that actually appeared, then to work out the headline it could have had, and then the story you were hoping they would publish?

Is it relevant why you were really hoping they would publish it? Would you have liked them to publish it because it would have been funny? For another reason?
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Was the story about corporations? The financial crisis? Institutions? Governments? noish A specific incident? Legislation? yope, no to rest

Would a sensible approach to this puzzle be to identify the headline that actually appeared, then to work out the headline it could have had, and then the story you were hoping they would publish? no. the actual headline is irrelevant.

Is it relevant why you were really hoping they would publish it? yesish Would you have liked them to publish it because it would have been funny? no For another reason? yes
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Was the story about a trial?

Actually, I should add the word "allegedly" to that, at least for the first (actually printed) article - what should you add "allegedly" to?
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Was the story about a trial? no

Actually, I should add the word "allegedly" to that, at least for the first (actually printed) article - what should you add "allegedly" to? that the song allegedly does not relate to the first article other than the headline.
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Was the printed story about something that had happened at your university? Something the university was involved in? Something related to your university?

If the song "allegedly" does not relate to the first article other than the title, does that mean that some people would say/have said/say that it doesn't? That some people would say/etc that it does?
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Was the printed story about something that had happened at your university? Something the university was involved in? Something related to your university? No to all

If the song "allegedly" does not relate to the first article other than the title, does that mean that some people would say/have said/say that it doesn't? That some people would say/etc that it does? Well, the singer has said it doesn't, but many people feel it is, at least laterally, relevant.
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Was the printed story about proposed amendments to legislation? The presidential election? Was it about something that had happened? Something that was happening at the time of publication? Something that was happening at the time of writing, if a significant period of time elapsed before publication? Something that is happening now? Something that will happen? Something that might happen?
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Was the printed story about proposed amendments to legislation? No, plain ol "legislation" was closer The presidential election? no Was it about something that had happened? yope/noish Something that was happening at the time of publication? yope/noish Something that was happening at the time of writing, if a significant period of time elapsed before publication? N/A Something that is happening now? yope/noish Something that will happen? Yes Something that might happen? And this too, I'd say.

Hint: Try to find out information about the story that wasn't printed. It might help you out.
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The headline that was never used: is it a famous quote (from a song, a poem, etc) or is it imagined by you?
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OK, the story that wasn't printed: was it about
sport?
politics?
one or more animals?
one or more people?
crime?
the environment?
money?
religion?
science?
behaviour?
camping?
fire?
bears?
you?
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The headline that was never used: is it a famous quote (from a song, a poem, etc) or is it imagined by you? The headline "could" have been the same one as the one that the printed article "could" have had. However, the printed (commentary) article didn't have that headline. Keep in mind the other article was never written. Explore this

OK, the story that wasn't printed: was it about Possible FA but I'll answer anyway
sport? yes
politics?
one or more animals?
one or more people? Yes
crime?
the environment?
money?
religion?
science?
behaviour?
camping?
fire?
bears? Only for an svv of "bears".
you? No to rest
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Is the FA that the story was written? If it had been written, is it relevant what sport it would have been written about?

Would it have been about a team you support? Were you hoping they would print it because it would mean the team had won something?
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Is the FA that the story was written? Yes - it was not actually written. If it had been written, is it relevant what sport it would have been written about? Only because this is based on a true story.

Would it have been about a team you support? Yes, and .... Were you hoping they would print it because it would mean the team had won something YES!!!!!!!

Hint for identifying the team if you go that route: Remember this was the school newspaper.
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Would the title of the second story have suggested that the team had won something? By which I mean the wording of the title? Can the hypothetical title which could have been used for the actual printed article and the hypothetical one about the team be read in two ways, one of which suggests that the team won something?

Is it a school team? Is its name relevant? Does the title include a word or phrase which can mean something like "win"? "Succeed"? "Vanquish all opponents"?
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Would the title of the second story have suggested that the team had won something? In a way, yes. By which I mean the wording of the title? Yes Can the hypothetical title which could have been used for the actual printed article and the hypothetical one about the team be read in two ways, one of which suggests that the team won something? Well, it could have several meanings depending on context, but yes, if put on the hypothetical article, it would be apparent that it related to the team winning something.

Is it a school team? Yes - women's basketball to spare you the LTPF List trouble Is its name relevant? No, with a slight ish Does the title include a word or phrase which can mean something like "win"? This is probably closest "Succeed"? Or maybe tbis is "Vanquish all opponents"? Not this really.
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(From now on, when I say "title" I mean the hypothetical title) Does the title specifically suggest the women's basketball team? Or could it suggest any women's team? Any basketball team? Any team that you support? Any team?

Is the article that was actually printed about something to do with the school? The regulations?
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(From now on, when I say "title" I mean the hypothetical title) Does the title specifically suggest the women's basketball team? Or could it suggest any women's team? Any basketball team? Any team that you support? Any team? Well, it could represent any women's NCAA Division I Basketball team, at least hypothetically. But be wary of FA's and you should explore this.

Is the article that was actually printed about something to do with the school? The regulations? No to both.
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Does the title refer, explicitly or implicitly, to the competition that the team would have won? Does the competition have a name? If so, is it relevant?

Does the title refer, explicitly or implicitly, to the name of the team? To the fact that the team would be the best if they had won? To women? To basketball?
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Does the title refer, explicitly or implicitly, Thisish to the competition that the team would have won? Does the competition have a name? Well, not a special name, but it's got a generic name, I guess. If so, is it relevant?
No, but it is relevant what competition it was, or more specifically .... (fill in the blank)
Does the title refer, explicitly or implicitly, to the name of the team? As in UConn? No. To the fact that the team would be the best if they had won? You mean the headline? Yes. To women? To basketball? No to both of these.

Hint: Find out which competition it was. Given the stated timeframe, that should be fairly easy, since there were only two competitions and we won one of them.
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Was it the National Championship? Did the headline feature the word "champion"? "Champions"?
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Was it the National Championship? Yes Did the headline feature the word "champion"? "Champions"? I believe you mean "would the headline have...." and no
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Would the headline have featured the word "national"? "Nationals"? Would the headline have suggested that the team had won both competitions? i.e. not mentioning the National Championship at all but suggesting that the team had won everything, or were the best, or something, and thereby making the assumption that they had won that particular championship a reasonable one?
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Would the headline have featured the word "national"? "Nationals"? no Would the headline have suggested that the team had won both competitions? i.e. not mentioning the National Championship at all but suggesting that the team had won everything, or were the best, or something, and thereby making the assumption that they had won that particular championship a reasonable one? Well, we won the conference title. That's tournament one. But that would have been old news. Had we won the national championship (thus triggering the headline), the conference tournament would have been irrelevant. So don't focus on the Big East Tournament. It won't help you.
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Hint: Even if the other article had run last year (assuming that the relevant news was current then instead of now), this puzzle would not have worked. Nor would it work next year. Also, I will permit googlepedia since this requires some knowledge of women's college basketball as well as current political news.
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Is the number 2012 mentioned in the hypothetical title?
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Is the number 2012 mentioned in the hypothetical title? No
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As far as women's college basketball is concerned, do we need to know statistics? Team names? The setup of the sport in general? If none of these, would you be so kind as to indicate which?
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As far as women's college basketball is concerned, do we need to know statistics? Team names? No, but it is laterally relevant to the title. The setup of the sport in general? If none of these, would you be so kind as to indicate which? No to rest, but you do need to know something about this past year's tournament.
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Do we need to know who won it? Where the matches took place? What dates it took place?
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Do we need to know who won it? Only that it wasn't UConn, which has been established. The fact that Baylor (the Bears) won is related to the title of this puzzle but not otherwise relevant. Where the matches took place? Yes (well, for the championship match, anyway. Not for the preliminary rounds). Explore this What dates it took place? No
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Ok.... This puzzle is getting stale so if nobody posts questions within 48 hours, I will $poyl it and post a new puzzle.
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Ok time to

***SPOILER****

Well, article 1 was an editorial in support of Referendum 64, in Colorado, to legalize marijuana and regulate it like alcohol. I support this bill, and it could have humorously had the headline "Rocky Mountain High".
Meanwhile, our women's hoops team played in the Final Four in Denver. Had we won, we could have printed a paper with the headline "Rocky Mountain High". Alas, we lost and I was upset.
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groan! that's better than one of Peters! **grins**

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