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Posted on Friday, May 11, 2012 - 6:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Three unrelated people died because of a bee. How?
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First, let us make sure, this bee is an insect, right? not a competition, such as a quilting "bee"? Assuming no surprises here...

Was one of them stung by the bee? more than one? Were any of them allergic to the bee's sting?

Did one of the people consume honey made by the bee? more than one? Had the bee eaten something toxic that got into the honey?
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Did any of them die because another died? Unrelated: not relatives? Not knowing each other? Never met? Did the bee die? "a bee" = one individual bee?
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Did the bee distract someone while driving?
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First, let us make sure, this bee is an insect, right? Yes not a competition, such as a quilting "bee"? Assuming no surprises here...

Was one of them stung by the bee? Yes more than one? No Were any of them allergic to the bee's sting? No

Did one of the people consume honey made by the bee? No more than one? No Had the bee eaten something toxic that got into the honey? No

Did any of them die because another died? Yes Unrelated: not relatives? Not knowing each other? Never met? Yes to all Did the bee die? Yes "a bee" = one individual bee? No

Did the bee distract someone while driving? No
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So "a bee" is a parrticular type of bees?
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So "a bee" is a parrticular type of bees? No, it's a single bee. Specific type is irrelevant.
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Did the two people who weren't stung die of different causese (i.e. different from each other)? Was either of them killed in an accident? Did either of them die because someone didn't save them? Didn't perform an operation on them?

Did the person who was stung die directly from the sting? Did this person die immediately after the sting? Shortly afterwards? More than a day afterwards?
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But you said "a bee" was not one individual bee, and now you said it's a single bee. *confused kitteh*
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But you said "a bee" was not one individual bee, and now you said it's a single bee. *confused kitteh* That was supposed to be a Yes to "one individual bee." BLOOPER, and I hadn't even noticed the oops.

Did the two people who weren't stung die of different causese (i.e. different from each other)? Yes Was either of them killed in an accident? Yes, all of them Did either of them die because someone didn't save them? No Didn't perform an operation on them? No

Did the person who was stung die directly from the sting? No Did this person die immediately after the sting? Shortly afterwards? Between a few seconds and a couple minutes after More than a day afterwards?
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The three people: H? A? M? Age relevant? Profession relevant?

If person A was stung by the bee, did he/she die first? Did B and C die simultaneously? Within a few minutes of each other? Within an hour of each other? Did either of them die at the same time as A?

Did all three people die of different causes?
Were there 3 separate accidents? 2? 1?

Were any of them:
Hit by a vehicle?
Involved in an accident whilst in a vehicle?
Shot?
Crushed?
Poisoned?
Asphyxiated?
Decapitated?
Burned?
Killed by animals?

Did any of them:
Drown?
Fall off something?
Fall into something?
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The three people: H? A? M? Age relevant? Profession relevant?

If person A was stung by the bee, did he/she die first? Yes Did B and C die simultaneously? Within a few minutes of each other? This Within an hour of each other? Did either of them die at the same time as A? No

Did all three people die of different causes? Yes
Were there 3 separate accidents? Yes, but they weren't entirely "separate" 2? 1?

Were any of them:
Hit by a vehicle?
Involved in an accident whilst in a vehicle? B
Shot?
Crushed?
Poisoned?
Asphyxiated?
Decapitated?
Burned? B Yope
Killed by animals?

Did any of them:
Drown? A
Fall off something?
Fall into something? A

All unanswered are No, and feel free to name everyone. (A = HAF, B/C = HAM)
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Did Alice fall into some water? Did she drown inside? Outside? Was anyone else present? id anyone see her? Did anyone try to rescue her? Did Bill or Colin see her?

Was the vehicle Bill was in a car? Bus? Train? Plane? Boat? Did he die in an explosion? Did he die before Colin? Did Colin see him die? Did Alice's accident, or anything resulting from it, cause the accident Bill was involved in?

Did Colin die as a result of anything to do with Alice's accident? Bill's accident?

Did Colin have a heart attack? A stroke? Some kind of medical condition?
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Did Alice fall into some water? Yes Did she drown inside? Outside? This Was anyone else present? Noish/Yope Did anyone see her? Did anyone try to rescue her? Did Bill or Colin see her? No to these

Was the vehicle Bill was in a car? Bus? Train? Plane? Boat? This Did he die in an explosion? Yes Did he die before Colin? Yes Did Colin see him die? No Did Alice's accident, or anything resulting from it, cause the accident Bill was involved in? \b[Yes}

Did Colin die as a result of anything to do with Alice's accident? No Bill's accident? Yes

Did Colin have a heart attack? A stroke? Some kind of medical condition? No to all
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Is this FYOI?

Did Alice fall into some water from a boat? From the boat Bill was in? From a boat near the boat Bill was in? Did she fall into the sea? A river? A lake? Were other people nearby but not watching?

Did Bill die within a few minutes of Alice? Within 30 minutes?

Was he driving the boat? Did the boat crash into something? Did it explode spontaneously?

Did Colin bleed to death? Was he electrocuted? Was he executed?
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Is this FYOI? Yes

Did Alice fall into some water from a boat? No From the boat Bill was in? From a boat near the boat Bill was in? Did she fall into the sea? A river? A lake? This Were other people nearby but not watching? DOYD of "nearby"

Did Bill die within a few minutes of Alice? Yes Within 30 minutes?

Was he driving the boat? Yes Did the boat crash into something? Yes Did it explode spontaneously? No

Did Colin bleed to death? Was he electrocuted? Was he executed? No to all
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Was Colin inside whatever Bill's boat crashed into? on top of it?

So Alice fell into some water immediately after being stung by the bee? Was she trying to run away from a swarm of bees? or was she already standing by the water, and lost her balance when startled by the bee?

Did Bill see Alice fall into the water? If so, did he realize she fell? or did he think she was diving in on purpose? If not, did Bill see Alice at any moment during the situation in this puzzle? Did he see the bee?
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This is great. I keep thinking it comes from a book of classics

Did Alice fall into the lake from a jetty? From something that was surrounded by water? From the shore? From a cliff? From a dam? A manmade structure? A wall?

If Alice hadn't fallen into the lake, would Bill have crashed the boat? If she hadn't drowned, would he have crashed?

Did Bill crash into another boat? A rock? A land mass? A wall? An animal?

Did he realise that someone had fallen into the water? Did anyone realise that someone had fallen into the water? Did she shout as she fell?

Was Bill driving his boat on the same lake as Alice drowned in?
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Were any of the 3 main people at the lake for recreation? Were any of them there for work? Did Bill attempt to save Alice's life? Did Colin attempt to save Bill's life? Or did Alice die without Bill or Colin being aware of it? Did Bill die without Colin being aware of it? Did anyone see Colin's death? Were there witnesses to Alice's death? To Bill's? Were all 3 within a relatively short distance of each other?
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Was Colin inside whatever Bill's boat crashed into? on top of it? No to both

So Alice fell into some water immediately after being stung by the bee? Yes Was she trying to run away from a swarm of bees? No or was she already standing by the water, Not quite and lost her balance when startled by the bee? Yes

Did Bill see Alice fall into the water? No If so, did he realize she fell? or did he think she was diving in on purpose? If not, did Bill see Alice at any moment during the situation in this puzzle? No Did he see the bee? No

This is great. I keep thinking it comes from a book of classics Thanks!

Did Alice fall into the lake from a jetty? From something that was surrounded by water? From the shore? From a cliff? From a dam? A manmade structure? A wall? No to all; "shore" and "manmade structure" are closest

If Alice hadn't fallen into the lake, would Bill have crashed the boat? No If she hadn't drowned, would he have crashed? No

Did Bill crash into another boat? A rock? This A land mass? A wall? And this (thus, a rock wall) An animal?

Did he realise that someone had fallen into the water? No Did anyone realise that someone had fallen into the water? No Did she shout as she fell? Irrel

Was Bill driving his boat on the same lake as Alice drowned in? Yes

Were any of the 3 main people at the lake for recreation? Yes, Alice & Bill Were any of them there for work? No Did Bill attempt to save Alice's life? No Did Colin attempt to save Bill's life? Yes Or did Alice die without Bill or Colin being aware of it? Yes Did Bill die without Colin being aware of it? No Did anyone see Colin's death? No Were there witnesses to Alice's death? No To Bill's? Yes (Colin) Were all 3 within a relatively short distance of each other? Yes
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Did Bill crash into a wall because he swerved to avoid something? To take a closer look at something? Was he going fast when he hit the wall? Were there any other (relevant) boats on the lake?

Did he crash because he lost control of the boat? If so, did something make him lose control? Did he crash because something was wrong with the boat? Did it explode on hitting the wall?

Did Colin enter the lake to rescue Bill? If so, did he die in the water, i.e. mostly submerged?
Did he see the crash from the shore? From a boat on the lake? From something else on the lake? From the air?

Was Alice standing on/in the thing Bill crashed into when she was stung? Was it a harbour wall? Part of a building?

Did Bill see any evidence of Alice having fallen into the lake? Did he see something but not realise it was a person?

Did Alice disturb any (relevant) wildlife when she fell? Were there any predators in the lake?
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Did Bill crash into a wall because he swerved to avoid something? No To take a closer look at something? No Was he going fast when he hit the wall? Yes Were there any other (relevant) boats on the lake? No

Did he crash because he lost control of the boat? Yes If so, did something make him lose control? Yes Did he crash because something was wrong with the boat? Yope Did it explode on hitting the wall? Yes

Did Colin enter the lake to rescue Bill? Yes If so, did he die in the water, i.e. mostly submerged? No
Did he see the crash from the shore? From a boat on the lake? From something else on the lake? This-ish -- from something near the shore From the air?

Was Alice standing on/in the thing Bill crashed into when she was stung? No Was it a harbour wall? Part of a building? No to these

Did Bill see any evidence of Alice having fallen into the lake? No Did he see something but not realise it was a person? No

Did Alice disturb any (relevant) wildlife when she fell? No Were there any predators in the lake? Irrel
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was Alice driving when she was stung?

Did Bill crash because he swerved to avoid something?
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Was it part of Colin's job to rescue people from the lake? Was he a lifeguard?

Did he see Bill before he crashed into the wall? Did the see the explosion? Was he on the wall that Bill crashed into?

Did some foreign body enter the engine or other mechanical part of the boat, causing it not to work properly? If so, did it enter from the air? From the water?

Did Bill lose control of the speed of the boat? The steering? Did he crash into a dam? Was the wall at the edge of the lake? Near the shore but surrounded by water? Out in the middle of the lake?

Did he lose control because of something which affected his ability to control the boat but not the working parts of the boat?
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In my last question I mean "did he lose control because of something which affected his ability to control the boat but did not affect the working parts of the boat?". Just to be sure!
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was Alice driving when she was stung? No

Did Bill crash because he swerved to avoid something? No

Was it part of Colin's job to rescue people from the lake? No Was he a lifeguard? No

Did he see Bill before he crashed into the wall? No Did he see the explosion? No, but OTRT Was he on the wall that Bill crashed into? Not quite, but OTRT

Did some foreign body enter the engine or other mechanical part of the boat, causing it not to work properly? If so, did it enter from the air? From the water?

Did Bill lose control of the speed of the boat? Somewhat, yes The steering? Yes Did he crash into a dam? No Was the wall at the edge of the lake? Yes Near the shore Yes but surrounded by water? No Out in the middle of the lake? No

Did he lose control because of something which affected his ability to control the boat but did not affect the working parts of the boat? No
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Are the answers to these all "no"?

Did some foreign body enter the engine or other mechanical part of the boat, causing it not to work properly? If so, did it enter from the air? From the water?


Did Bill lose control of the boat because he was distracted by something? Did he get something in his eye? Did part of the boat not work as expected? Did part of the boat cease to work? Not work at the precise time Bill needed it to work? Did the waves caused by Alice's fall affect the movement of the boat?

Did Colin hear the explosion? Did he feel it? Could he have seen it from where he was at the time it happened, if he had been looking in that direction? Was Colin blind? Partially-sighted?

Was he in the vicinity of the lake for work?

Did he die from head injuries? Did he bleed? Was he cut by something? Did he choke?
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Are the answers to these all "no"? No; I just missed that set of questions. My bad.

Did some foreign body enter the engine or other mechanical part of the boat, causing it not to work properly? Yes If so, did it enter from the air? From the water? This

Did Bill lose control of the boat because he was distracted by something? No Did he get something in his eye? No Did part of the boat not work as expected? Yes, see above... Did part of the boat cease to work? Yes, see above Not work at the precise time Bill needed it to work? See prev Did the waves caused by Alice's fall affect the movement of the boat? No

Did Colin hear the explosion? Yes Did he feel it? Probably Could he have seen it from where he was at the time it happened, if he had been looking in that direction? Possibly Was Colin blind? No Partially-sighted? No

Was he in the vicinity of the lake for work? No

Did he die from head injuries? This Did he bleed? Was he cut by something? Did he choke?
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Did something hit Colin on the head? Or did he hit his head on something? Did something fall on his head? Did a projectile hit his head? Did part of the wall that Bill crashed into hit his head?

Was the foreign body water itself? Was it the bee? Was it something belonging to Alice? Something she dislodged when she fell? Was it a man-made object? A natural object? Was it an animal? A plant?
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Is this a realistic puzzle? Could this really happen? You referenced 'Final Destination' in another puzzle, and from what I know about those movies they are a series of very unrealistic (if not completely unrealistic) chain-of-event deaths. So I'm wondering if we're dealing with a scenario in which Alice fell into the water and was run over by Bill's boat (yuck), which disabled the motor and/or the rudder, sending the boat into a wall, causing the boat or something else to explode, sending some projectile into Colin...any of this accurate?
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Did something hit Colin on the head? Yes Or did he hit his head on something? No Did something fall on his head? No Did a projectile hit his head? Yes Did part of the wall that Bill crashed into hit his head? No

Was the foreign body water itself? No Was it the bee? No Was it something belonging to Alice? Yes Something she dislodged when she fell? No Was it a man-made object? Yes A natural object? No Was it an animal? No A plant? No

Is this a realistic puzzle? Could this really happen? You referenced 'Final Destination' in another puzzle, and from what I know about those movies they are a series of very unrealistic (if not completely unrealistic) chain-of-event deaths. It is fairly Final Destination-esque (like my other Causality puzzle), which should infer its realisticness. So I'm wondering if we're dealing with a scenario in which Alice fell into the water Yes and was run over by Bill's boat (yuck), No which disabled the motor and/or the rudder, Yes sending the boat into a wall, Yes causing the boat Yes or something else to explode, Yes sending some projectile into Colin... Eventually -- you're missing some events before this any of this accurate? \b[Pretty darn}
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Was Alice holding anything when she entered the water? Did she knock something into the water?
Was she standing on a pier which fell into the water?
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Did something other than the boat explode? Did the boat explode first? Did this explosion trigger another explosion?

Did a building explode? A man-made structure? A vehicle? Another boat? Whatever Colin was using to try to rescue Bill? A container of explosive material?

Was Colin hit on the head by a rock? A brick/stone from a structure? A piece of metal? A piece of wood? A tree? Part of a vehicle? Part of a buiding? Part of a boat?
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Was Alice holding anything when she entered the water? Yes Did she knock something into the water? No
Was she standing on a pier which fell into the water? No

Did something other than the boat explode? No Did the boat explode first? Did this explosion trigger another explosion? Did a building explode? A man-made structure? A vehicle? Another boat? Whatever Colin was using to try to rescue Bill? A container of explosive material?

Was Colin hit on the head by a rock? A brick/stone from a structure? A piece of metal? A metal object that was on the boat A piece of wood? A tree? Part of a vehicle? Part of a buiding? Part of a boat?
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Was Colin hit by part of the boat? The anchor? Something belonging to Bill? Something which was not attached to the boat but didn't belong to Bill?

Was the thing of Alice's that caused Bill to crash her handbag? A scarf? An item of clothing? A shoe? A long flexible thing that got tangled in the rudder/engine/propeller? Or a rigid thing that went into it and jammed it?

Was Colin hit by the metal object immediately after the explosion? Was he on his way to rescue Bill when he was hit? If so, did he decide to rescue Bill before the explosion? Had he seen Bill lose control of the boat? Had he seen Bill/Bill's boat before the explosion happened? If so, immediately before? In between Bill losing control of the boat and the explosion? Before Bill lost control?
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Was Colin hit by part of the boat? The anchor? Something belonging to Bill? Yes, No to rest Something which was not attached to the boat but didn't belong to Bill?

Was the thing of Alice's that caused Bill to crash her handbag? A scarf? An item of clothing? A shoe? A long flexible thing that got tangled in the rudder/engine/propeller? Or a rigid thing that went into it and jammed it? Yes, No to rest

Was Colin hit by the metal object immediately after the explosion? Was he on his way to rescue Bill when he was hit? Yope, No to rest If so, did he decide to rescue Bill before the explosion? Had he seen Bill lose control of the boat? Had he seen Bill/Bill's boat before the explosion happened? If so, immediately before? In between Bill losing control of the boat and the explosion? Before Bill lost control?
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Ah, there were some more events in between the explosion and Colin's death, weren't there?

Is it relevant what Colin was doing when he heard/became aware of the explosion? Is the manner in which he became aware of the explosion relevant?

Did he go to try to rescue Bill and realise it was pointless? Was he on his way back from not rescuing Bill when he was hit? Had he been in the water and exited it when he was hit?

Was the thing belonging to Bill which hit Colin projected from the boat at the time of the explosion? Did it lodge somewhere else initially? Was it a coin? Keys? A ring? An item of jewellery?

Was the thing belonging to Alice which made Bill lose control of the boat a thing which floated? Was it something she had been wearing? Holding? Something she had had in her pocket?
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Ah, there were some more events in between the explosion and Colin's death, weren't there? Yes

Is it relevant what Colin was doing when he heard/became aware of the explosion? No Is the manner in which he became aware of the explosion relevant? Well, he heard it, and that's relevant

Did he go to try to rescue Bill and realise it was pointless? No Was he on his way back from not rescuing Bill when he was hit? No Had he been in the water and exited it when he was hit? No

Was the thing belonging to Bill which hit Colin projected from the boat at the time of the explosion? Do you mean "projected" like a boom or figurehead? No. Did it lodge somewhere else initially? No Was it a coin? Keys? A ring? An item of jewellery? No to these

Was the thing belonging to Alice which made Bill lose control of the boat a thing which floated? Yes Was it something she had been wearing? Holding? This Something she had had in her pocket?
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I meant "projected" as in "flung", but for some reason I couldn't think of the word "flung" last night.

Did the boat explode as soon as it hit the wall?
Was the thing that hit Colin flung from the boat by the force of the explosion, at the moment of explosion?

How much time elapsed between the explosion and Colin being hit: less than a couple of seconds? Less than a minute? the time it took for the projectile to travel from the boat to Colin's head?

Was Colin on the "something" on the lake when he heard the explosion? Did he move from this something to try to rescue Bill? Did he actually physically try to rescue Bill? Or did he call the emergency services? Alert someone else to the explosion?

Was the thing that hit Colin a phone?

Was the thing Alice was holding when she fell in the lake a plastic bag? A balloon? An epi-pen?
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I meant "projected" as in "flung", but for some reason I couldn't think of the word "flung" last night. Ah.

Did the boat explode as soon as it hit the wall? No
Was the thing that hit Colin flung from the boat by the force of the explosion, at the moment of explosion? No

How much time elapsed between the explosion and Colin being hit: less than a couple of seconds? Less than a minute? About a minute the time it took for the projectile to travel from the boat to Colin's head? No

Was Colin on the "something" on the lake when he heard the explosion? What "something"? He wasn't on the lake. Did he move from this something to try to rescue Bill? Yes Did he actually physically try to rescue Bill? Yes Or did he call the emergency services? No Alert someone else to the explosion? No

Was the thing that hit Colin a phone? No

Was the thing Alice was holding when she fell in the lake a plastic bag? A balloon? An epi-pen? No to these
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This "something":

Did he see the crash from the shore? From a boat on the lake? From something else on the lake? This-ish -- from something near the shore

Did Colin hear the boat hit the wall? Did he see the boat hit the wall? Did he see the explosion? Did he hear the explosion?

In between the crash and the explosion, did Colin move? Did he get into the lake? Did he swim? Did he use a boat? Another form of transport? Did he interact with Bill? Did he speak to Bill? Touch him?

Was Bill knocked out in the crash? was he conscious in between the crash and the explosion? Did he do anything relevant in between the crash and the explosion?

At what point did Colin try to rescue Bill: after the crash but before the explosion? After the explosion?
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This "something":

Did he see the crash from the shore? From a boat on the lake? From something else on the lake? This-ish -- from something near the shore Then Yes.

Did Colin hear the boat hit the wall? Yes Did he see the boat hit the wall? No Did he see the explosion? No Did he hear the explosion? Yes

In between the crash and the explosion, did Colin move? FA for all of these questions Did he get into the lake? Did he swim? Did he use a boat? Another form of transport? Did he interact with Bill? Did he speak to Bill? Touch him? Was Bill knocked out in the crash? was he conscious in between the crash and the explosion? Did he do anything relevant in between the crash and the explosion?

At what point did Colin try to rescue Bill: after the crash but before the explosion? After the explosion? \b[This}
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When Colin heard the explosion, was he in a position where he could see the lake?
Is Colin's job relevant?
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When Colin heard the explosion, was he in a position where he could see the lake? Not immediately
Is Colin's job relevant? No
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How much time elapsed between the boat hitting the wall and the explosion: less than 5 seconds? More than a minute?

In this time, did Bill do anything significant? Was he conscious? Did he speak? Did he interact with Colin?

Was Bill in the boat at the time of the explosion?
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How much time elapsed between the boat hitting the wall and the explosion: less than 5 seconds? This More than a minute?

In this time, did Bill do anything significant? No Was he conscious? Can't really answer (I think you still have the FA) Did he speak? No Did he interact with Colin? No

Was Bill in the boat at the time of the explosion? Yes
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Did the explosion happen before the boat crashed?
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Did the explosion happen before the boat crashed? No...
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Did it explode as it crashed?
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Did it explode as it crashed? Yes -- FA cleared
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So, the thing that hit Colin was not thrown from the boat in the explosion, and it hit Colin about a minute after the explosion - is that right?

Was it on Bill's person at the time of the explosion? Was he holding it?

Did it kill Colin pretty much immediately? If so, is it safe to assume it travelled towards Colin's head fairly briskly? Did it travel in a straight trajectory from its origin to Colin's head?

Was it a bullet? A gun? Was the delay between the explosion and it hitting Colin due to the effect of heat?

Did Colin see Bill after the explosion? Did he see part of him? Was Bill blown to pieces? Was the thing on Bill's person when it began the final leg of its journey to Colin's head?
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So, the thing that hit Colin was not thrown from the boat in the explosion, and it hit Colin about a minute after the explosion - is that right? Yes

Was it on Bill's person at the time of the explosion? No Was he holding it? No

Did it kill Colin pretty much immediately? Once it hit him, yes If so, is it safe to assume it travelled towards Colin's head fairly briskly? Yes Did it travel in a straight trajectory from its origin to Colin's head? Relatively

Was it a bullet? No A gun? No Was the delay between the explosion and it hitting Colin due to the effect of heat? Yes, in some way

Did Colin see Bill after the explosion? No Did he see part of him? No Was Bill blown to pieces? Irrel Was the thing on Bill's person when it began the final leg of its journey to Colin's head? No
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Was the metal object in some kind of container before the crash/explosion? Was it in a cupboard? Was it part of another object? Did part of it melt/burn during/after the explosion, leaving only the metal part?

Did it travel directly from part of the boat to Colin's head? Did it travel directly from the water to Colin's head?

Was it smaller than a golf ball? Smaller than a tennis ball? Bigger than a watermelon? Was it a sphere? A cube? A object with a geometric shape? An irregular object? Was it a piece of cutlery? A knife? Was it a tool?
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Was the metal object in some kind of container before the crash/explosion? Noish Was it in a cupboard? Yope Was it part of another object? No Did part of it melt/burn during/after the explosion, Yes leaving only the metal part? No

Did it travel directly from part of the boat to Colin's head? Yes Did it travel directly from the water to Colin's head? No

Was it smaller than a golf ball? Smaller than a tennis ball? Bigger than a watermelon? About the size of a watermelon Was it a sphere? No A cube? No A object with a geometric shape? Yes An irregular object? No Was it a piece of cutlery? No A knife? No Was it a tool? No
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Was the object the propeller?
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Was the object the propeller? No
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Was it a canister of gas?
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Was it a canister of gas? Close
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Was it a can of fuel? A metal container which contained something which expanded on heating to the point where the container was propelled towards Colin's head?

Was the thing of Alice's that caused the crash some kind of water safety device? A watersports accessory?
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Was it a can of fuel? No A metal container which contained something which expanded on heating to the point where the container was propelled towards Colin's head? Pretty much, and since you're this close I'll just tell you: it was a fire extinguisher.

Was the thing of Alice's that caused the crash some kind of water safety device? A watersports accessory?
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Nice touch, the fire extinguisher

Was the thing of Alice's something similarly ironic? Was it something that is supposed to prevent people from drowning? A life jacket? A float? Arm bands? A rubber ring? Was Alice intending to go swimming when she fell into the lake? Was she holding the thing because she was about to put it on to keep her safe while she went swimming?
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Was the thing of Alice's that caused the crash some kind of water safety device? A watersports accessory? Neither

Nice touch, the fire extinguisher Thanks

Was the thing of Alice's something similarly ironic? No Was it something that is supposed to prevent people from drowning? No A life jacket? A float? Arm bands? A rubber ring? Was Alice intending to go swimming when she fell into the lake? NO -- good q Was she holding the thing because she was about to put it on to keep her safe while she went swimming? So No
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Was Alice planning to do some other water-related activity? Boating? Tubing? Water skiing?
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Was Alice planning to do some other water-related activity? No! Boating? Tubing? Water skiing?
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Was she specifically planning not to go into or onto the water at all? Was she trying to avoid the water? Was she scared of water? Did she have rabies? Could she swim? Was she in a wheelchair? Was she attached to something heavy?
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Was she specifically planning not to go into or onto the water at all? Yes Was she trying to avoid the water? Yes Was she scared of water? No Did she have rabies? No Could she swim? Irrel Was she in a wheelchair? No but OTRT Was she attached to something heavy? No
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Was there something about her that made her more likely to drown than someone else falling into water? Was her movement restricted in some way? Did she have some kind of disability? Blind? Deaf? Was she heavier than a normal person for some reason and thus more likely to sink?
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Was she missing one or more arms? Legs? Was the thing that caused Bill's accident a prosthetic limb?
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Was there something about her that made her more likely to drown than someone else falling into water? No Was her movement restricted in some way? Yope Did she have some kind of disability? Yew Blind? Deaf? Neither Was she heavier than a normal person for some reason and thus more likely to sink? No

Was she missing one or more arms? Legs? Was the thing that caused Bill's accident a prosthetic limb? No to all, but also OTRT
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All you need to know is what it was of Alice's that caused the boat accident. You know that it was a metal object, that she had some kind of disability, and that she was not planning on swimming.
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Was it a crutch?
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Was it a crutch? No, but very close.
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Wheelchair? Cane?
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Wheelchair? Cane? This, and that's a

**********SPOILER**********

Alice was going for a walk on a path overlooking a lake when a bee stung her. Startled, she fell off the path and into the water, where she drowned. When falling, she dropped her hollow metal cane, which eventually floated across the lake.

Meanwhile, Bill was piloting a motorboat on the lake. Eventually, the cane drifted and was drawn into the boat's propeller, causing it to swerve out of control and crash into a rock wall. The boat exploded, killing Bill.

Colin was staying at a nearby beach house and heard the explosion. He ran out to the boat to try to save Bill, but the boat's fire extinguisher ruptured in the flames, causing it to launch across the boat.... Exit Colin.

And if it hadn't been for that godforsaken bee...

Nice work everyone (and there were quite a few of you). New puzzle soon.
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Once, when I was really little (like four or something), I was on one of those two-people swings with a friend. A bee came along, and me and my friend froze, because we had heard that if you stayed still, bees wouldn't sting you (which is true, of course). However, being on a swing, we continued to move, and the bee proceeded to sting us both. I've been scared of bees ever since.

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