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Merton has a characteristic that greatly hinders his social life but does not harm him on the job market, even when he applies for a job in which socializing and making a good impression are important. How come?
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Is it a physical characteristic? Is there any job in the world that this characteristic would not be good for? Is it a personality characteristic? A type of autism? If I met Merton, would the feature be obvious?
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Is it a physical characteristic? noIs there any job in the world that this characteristic would not be good for? no Is it a personality characteristic? no A type of autism? no If I met Merton, would the feature be obvious? no
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Does this characteristic hinder his social life in a way that is not related to his ability to interact with and make a good impression on people?

Is he a misanthrope but able to hide it in professional situations?

Is the characteristic a physical one?
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Does this characteristic hinder his social life in a way that is not related to his ability to interact with and make a good impression on people?No--it is related.

Is he a misanthrope but able to hide it in professional situations? no

Is the characteristic a physical one? no
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Does he lie on his applications?
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When you say it does not hinder him on the job market, is that in terms of getting jobs? Would he be equally good at actually performing such a job as someone without this characteristic?

Is it relevant that interacting with friends is quite different to interactions in a professional environment (eg between employees, or between employee and client)?

Could the characteristic be described as a personal preference for something? Is his nationality relevant? Ethnicity? Socio-economic status? His past? His upbringing?

Would you realise that he had this characteristic from talking to him? From looking at him? From having an indepth conversation? Only if he chose to reveal it?

Does it make people not want to be friends with him? Not want to do stuff with him? Does it make it hard for him to get out and socialise? Does it affect a specific aspect of his social life, or more generally?

Is the fact that employers must provide equal opportunities employment relevant?
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When you say it does not hinder him on the job market, is that in terms of getting jobs? yesWould he be equally good at actually performing such a job as someone without this characteristic? yes

Is it relevant that interacting with friends is quite different to interactions in a professional environment (eg between employees, or between employee and client)? yope

Could the characteristic be described as a personal preference for something? no Is his nationality relevant? no Ethnicity? no Socio-economic status? no His past? yopeHis upbringing? no

Would you realise that he had this characteristic from talking to him? no From looking at him? noFrom having an indepth conversation? no Only if he chose to reveal it? no

Does it make people not want to be friends with him? possibly Not want to do stuff with him? ditto Does it make it hard for him to get out and socialise? only as indicated in the 2 previous answers Does it affect a specific aspect of his social life, or more generally? the latter is closer

Is the fact that employers must provide equal opportunities employment relevant? no
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Is he aware that he has the characteristic?
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Is he aware that he has the characteristic? yes
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Is his age relevant? His education? Has he always had the characteristic? Will he always have it? Will it always hinder him to the same extent?
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Is his age relevant? yesHis education? no Has he always had the characteristic? no Will he always have it? possibly Will it always hinder him to the same extent?as long as he has it
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Is he under 18? Under 21? 20-30? 30-40? 40-50? 50-60? 60-70? 70-80? Older?

Is his social life hindered because he is too young to do certain things? Too old? A different age to most of his friends?
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Is he under 18? Under 21? 20-30? 30-40? 40-50? 50-60? 60-70? 70-80? Older? He's at least 18 & probably over 21 . He's probably younger than about 70.

Is his social life hindered because he is too young to do certain things? no Too old? no A different age to most of his friends? no
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So his age is relevant, but he could be almost any age? Is it only relevant because he is of working age?

Would he be sad about his social life? Does the characteristic stop him from doing social things he wants to do? Or does it mean that he doesn't wish to socialise?
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So his age is relevant, but he could be almost any age? He has to be at least 18, I think Is it only relevant because he is of working age? no

Would he be sad about his social life? yes Does the characteristic stop him from doing social things he wants to do? some thingsOr does it mean that he doesn't wish to socialise? no
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Some random thoughts .....

Could the characteristic be described as a belief in something? Has it the potential to offend or cause controversy? is it particularly divisive? Does this characteristc mean he refuses to do something? insists on doing something that may be out of the ordinary?

Is politics relevant? voting? driving?

Anything to do with diet?

I think you missed Jane's question about lying on applications
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Does he lie on his applications? no

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Some random thoughts .....

Could the characteristic be described as a belief in something? no Has it the potential to offend or cause controversy? yes is it particularly divisive? yope Does this characteristc mean he refuses to do something? noinsists on doing something that may be out of the ordinary? no

Is politics relevant? novoting? nodriving? no

Anything to do with diet? no

I think you missed Jane's question about lying on applicationsRectified (see beginning of this post) with my HEARTFELT apologies
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Would this characteristic be more likely to show itself in a Bar? a restaurant? theatre? a club?
Are dress codes or fashion sense relevant?
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Posted before I'd finished.....

Is taste in food, music or the arts relevant?
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Would employers know that he has this characteristic?
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Would this characteristic be more likely to show itself in a Bar? a restaurant? theatre? a club?he could hide it in all
Are dress codes or fashion sense relevant? no
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Posted before I'd finished.....

Is taste in food, music or the arts relevant? no
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Would employers know that he has this characteristic?yes
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Is the characteristic generally considered a negative one?

Would he try and hide it in social situations? At work? Would it only come out after you'd known him a while? Or could you easily never know that he had the characteristic, but there would be other noticeable things about him that would be caused by him having it?

Would his social situation be hindered in any social group? Or only among certain people?

Is his health relevant? Something that he has done in the past? Is talking relevant? Are any crimes relevant? Is his family relevant? Could the characteristic be described as a particular opinion? The state of him having done something? Or not having done something?

Do many people have this characteristic? Would anyone else with the characteristic experience the same problems, or is there something specific to Merton's case? Does the trait actively help him on the job market, or just not hinder him?
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Is the characteristic generally considered a negative one?noish or yope

Would he try and hide it in social situations? yes At work? no Would it only come out after you'd known him a while? not necessarily Or could you easily never know that he had the characteristic yes but there would be other noticeable things about him that would be caused by him having it? no

Would his social situation be hindered in any social group? most Or only among certain people? see previous answer

Is his health relevant? no Something that he has done in the past? yes Is talking relevant? noAre any crimes relevant? yesIs his family relevant? noCould the characteristic be described as a particular opinion? noThe state of him having done something? no Or not having done something? yesish

Do many people have this characteristic? no Would anyone else with the characteristic experience the same problems, or is there something specific to Merton's case? the former Does the trait actively help him on the job market, or just not hinder him? the latter
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Has Merton ever committed a crime? Been a victim of a relevant crime? Been implicated in a crime? Accused of one?
Would the trait damage his social life because people would likely be afraid of him? Not trust him? Not want to be associated with him?
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Has Merton ever committed a crime? no Been a victim of a relevant crime? no Been implicated in a crime? no Accused of one? no
Would the trait damage his social life because people would likely be afraid of him? yesNot trust him? yesNot want to be associated with him? yes
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Would people think he had committed a crime? Or that he was capable of one? Does he have the same name as a criminal? Look like one? Is he especially interested in crime?

Or are people scared that they would not be able to commit a crime in front of him? That he would get them in trouble? Is he a police officer? Or a very upstanding person who would tell on a friend he knew had committed a crime?

Is a specific crime relevant? Or crime in general?
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Would people think he had committed a crime? yes Or that he was capable of one? see previous answer Does he have the same name as a criminal? yes Look like one? possiblyIs he especially interested in crime? no

Or are people scared that they would not be able to commit a crime in front of him? noThat he would get them in trouble? no Is he a police officer? noOr a very upstanding person who would tell on a friend he knew had committed a crime? no

Is a specific crime relevant? a specific sort of crimeOr crime in general? no
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OK, so does he have the same name as a famous criminal? A serial killer? Murderer? Thief? A war criminal? Is he related to a criminal? And people fear he may have inherited their criminality?


And people think he is the same person? Or just have bad associations with him because of it? Was the relevant criminal ever caught?

And this wouldn't affect him at work, because employers would know he isn't a criminal? Because they research him before hiring him? Because his CV shows he is not a criminal? Because a workplace couldn't not hire someone on the basis of his name?
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OK, so does he have the same name as a famous criminal? no but you're ORT (on the right track) A serial killer? no Murderer? noThief?no A war criminal? noIs he related to a criminal? no And people fear he may have inherited their criminality? no


And people think he is the same person? yesOr just have bad associations with him because of it? noWas the relevant criminal ever caught? yes

And this wouldn't affect him at work, because employers would know he isn't a criminal? yesBecause they research him before hiring him? yesBecause his CV shows he is not a criminal? yesBecause a workplace couldn't not hire someone on the basis of his name? no
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So he has the same name as a criminal, but not a famous one? One who is known locally? Would people googling his name or similar find results about the criminal and assume it is him?

Is his name on lists somewhere? Eg he is frequently stopped from flying, or entering certain shops, or establishments, because someone of his name is barred?
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So he has the same name as a criminal, but not a famous one? yes One who is known locally? see next answer Would people googling his name or similar find results about the criminal and assume it is him?yes

Is his name on lists somewhere? yes Eg he is frequently stopped from flying no, or entering certain shops possibly, or establishments, because someone of his name is barred? ditto

This is close enough for me to declare a

******* SPOILER ***************

Think you've got problems? Merton Kendrick's name is on a sex offender registry, which lists him as a child molester!! In case you're thinking you'll save your sympathy for his victims, he hasn't got any, which is more than can be said for another (unrelated) Merton Kendrick who lives in the same city. Our MK has an official letter on police stationery saying he is not the sex offender & encouraging readers to verify this with the police. So MK has no trouble getting a job, because he can produce this letter at interviews. But imagine having to do this upon meeting a prospect for romance or even friendship. It would sure put a damper on the relationship!! A new puzzle awaits you, thanks to Enjay's clever questions!!
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That's a very interesting scenario. I think i'd probably change my name if I was him.
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Just goes to show you how absurd the idea of a sex offender registry is!

Why is one particular crime singled out? Why should I be informed of which of my neighbours was committed of a sex-related crime (which can really mean anything these days), but yet there is no such list of my neighbours that were convicted of robbery or perhaps manslaughter, which is _way_ more relevant to me?

This world is getting to be a strange place...
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I agree with you, Beachbum!!
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I remember at one poin, a convicted child molester was living in our neighborhood. So, he had to go around to every house, saying that he was a sex offender. I was about 13, and home alone when he came to my house. He didn't do anything illegal, but the fact that he was there when I was home alone is just plain creepy. Tell my how this is a smart idea?

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