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Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1032
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was a cold morning. He tried to help. Disaster.
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he try to help someone start a car? push a car? unfreeze a lock?
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Post Number: 1033
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez,

did he try to help someone start a car? push a car? unfreeze a lock?

NO
Potato (Potato)
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Post Number: 1354
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Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it also have been a disaster if it had been a different time of day?
If it hadn't been cold?

Any of these relevant?
Snow
Ice
People slipping on the ice
People trapped in lakes etc. due to breaking through ice on their surface
Freezing
Warm clothing
Warm drinks
Warm food

Was it a disaster because
...somebody died?
...somebody was injured?
...somebody's feelings were hurt?
...somebody lost something?
...something was damaged or destroyed?
...somebody ridiculed himself?


Was the disaster induced by "him"?
By the person he wanted to help?
By the predicament the person was in?
By another person?
By the weather?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1034
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2012 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato,

Would it also have been a disaster if it had been a different time of day?
YES

If it hadn't been cold?
NO

Any of these relevant?
Snow
Ice

YES

People slipping on the ice
People trapped in lakes etc. due to breaking through ice on their surface

NO

Freezing

YES

Warm clothing
Warm drinks
Warm food

NO

Was it a disaster because
...somebody died?
...somebody was injured?
...somebody's feelings were hurt?
...somebody lost something?
NO

...something was damaged or destroyed?
YES

...somebody ridiculed himself?
NO

Was the disaster induced by "him"?
A LITTLE

By the person he wanted to help?
YES

By the predicament the person was in?
YES

By another person?
NO

By the weather?
NO
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 17210
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 3:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did ice melt during the course of the puzzle? Break?

Is it a sheet of ice we're referring to? An icicle (or more than one)? Hail or sleet?
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Post Number: 1035
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Balin,

Did ice melt during the course of the puzzle? Break?
NO. ICE MELTING FEATURES IN A NUMBER OF PUZZLES BUT NOT THIS ONE.

Is it a sheet of ice we're referring to? An icicle (or more than one)? Hail or sleet?
NONE SPECIFICALLY
Potato (Potato)
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Post Number: 1355
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 11:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the person's life in danger?
Was the person scared?
Was the person feeling uncomfortable?
Was the person freezing?
Was "he" trying to keep the person warm?
Was the person injured when "he" tried to help?

Is the person HAM? Relevant?
Is "he" HA? Relevant?
Potato (Potato)
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Post Number: 1356
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 11:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he help only one person in the first place?
A group of people?
Or did he do some kind of service to the general public, like plowing the streets?

Did he help because it was his job?
Did he do it voluntarily?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1036
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato,

Was the person's life in danger?
NO

Was the person scared?
NO

Was the person feeling uncomfortable?
POSSIBLY

Was the person freezing?
NO

Was "he" trying to keep the person warm?
NO

Was the person injured when "he" tried to help?
NO

Is the person HAM? Relevant?
HUMAN, ADULT, FEMALE

Is "he" HA? Relevant?
YES, NOT REALLY

Did he help only one person in the first place?
YES

A group of people?
NO

Or did he do some kind of service to the general public, like plowing the streets?
NO

Did he help because it was his job?
NO

Did he do it voluntarily?
YES
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 3079
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Posted on Friday, June 08, 2012 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the HAF need help because of the cold? because of something caused by the cold?

was it a disaster because of the cold?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1037
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Saturday, June 09, 2012 - 12:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez,

did the HAF need help because of the cold? because of something caused by the cold?
NO, NO

was it a disaster because of the cold?
YES
Potato (Potato)
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Post Number: 1358
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Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 9:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The object that was damaged, was it the size of
...a fingernail?
...an MP3 player?
...a cell phone?
...a toaster?
...a microwave?
...a car?
...a streetlamp?
...a building?

Was it something electronical?
If so, was it damaged because the temperature was below its working temperature?
Did it run out of battery?
Was it physically damaged, ie. by falling to the ground?

Did the object belong to him?
To the HAF?

BTW, can we call him Jack?
And her Carol?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1038
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Monday, June 11, 2012 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato,

The object that was damaged, was it the size of
...a fingernail?
...an MP3 player?
...a cell phone?
NO

...a toaster?
MAYBE

...a microwave?
...a car?
...a streetlamp?
...a building?
NO

Was it something electronic?
YES

If so, was it damaged because the temperature was below its working temperature?
Did it run out of battery?
NO, NO

Was it physically damaged, ie. by falling to the ground?
YES, NO

Did the object belong to him?
To the HAF?
YES OR IRRELEVANT

BTW, can we call him Jack?
And her Carol?
SURE
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was something slippery? Was this the cause of the accident?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1039
Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jen,

Was something slippery? Was this the cause of the accident?

NO
Shez (Shez)
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Post Number: 3098
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Posted on Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 7:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the object some kind of tool? or a heater?

was the object damaged by the cold itself? was it damaged by being used on something frozen?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1040
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Posted on Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 7:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez,

was the object some kind of tool?
COULD BE DESCRIBED AS SUCH

or a heater?
NO

was the object damaged by the cold itself? was it damaged by being used on something frozen?
NO, NO
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Carol have car trouble? Did Jack try to give her a push? try to fix her car?
Potato (Potato)
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 11:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it was a disaster because the object was damaged, right?
Is it to be considered a disaster because the object was expensive?
Because it is hard to obtain?
Because it had a special meaning for anyone?
Because it was vital in the situation Jack and Carol were in?
Did it contain any dangerous substance that was now set free?
High voltage relevant?
Did the damaging of the object induce any kind of chain reaction?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1041
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pete and Pot,

Did Carol have car trouble? Did Jack try to give her a push? try to fix her car?
NO CAR INVOLVED

So it was a disaster because the object was damaged, right?
YES

Is it to be considered a disaster because the object was expensive?
SOMEWHAT

Because it is hard to obtain?
Because it had a special meaning for anyone?
Because it was vital in the situation Jack and Carol were in?
NO

Did it contain any dangerous substance that was now set free?
High voltage relevant?
NO

Did the damaging of the object induce any kind of chain reaction?
NO

THE RESULT OF THE DAMAGE IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN HOW IT HAPPENED.
Potato (Potato)
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 7:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it break or fall apart?
Did somebody accidently damage it? Intentionally?
Did it become wet?
Did something get inside it that shouldn't?
Did something get on it that shouldn't?
Was the damage temperature-induced?
Fire relevant?
Any other substance relevant?

Did Jack use the object?
Did Carol use it?
Somebody else?

Was the object used for fixing something?
For obtaining something (like a fishing rod for getting fish)?
For holding on to it?
For protection?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1042
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato,

Did it break or fall apart?
NO

Did somebody accidently damage it? Intentionally?
YES, NO

Did it become wet?
YES

Did something get inside it that shouldn't?
YES

Did something get on it that shouldn't?
YES

Was the damage temperature-induced?
NO

Fire relevant?
NO

Any other substance relevant?
NO

Did Jack use the object?
NO

Did Carol use it?
YES

Somebody else?
NO

Was the object used for fixing something?
For obtaining something (like a fishing rod for getting fish)?
For holding on to it?
For protection?
NO
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 9:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did Carol borrow the object from Jack?

was it an electrical object and water got inside it?

was it a computer?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1043
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Posted on Friday, June 15, 2012 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez,

did Carol borrow the object from Jack?
NO OR IRRELEVANT

was it an electrical object and water got inside it?
YES

was it a computer?
YES
Potato (Potato)
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 1:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Jack want to help Carol using the computer?
Repairing the computer?
Setting up the computer?
Using a specific application?
If any of these, was he competent in doing so?

Were they indoors?
Outdoors? Using a laptop?

You said that snow/ice was relevant.
Was the relevant snow/ice indoors?
Outdoors?

Did snow/ice get in or on the computer?
Was the computer open (that is, you can see the mainboard and stuff) at any point?

Did either of them something for warming themselves that is relevant, such as a hot drink or a hot-water bottle?

When water becomes solid in the cold, it is frozen and when a computer stops reacting to input, it is also called frozen. Is that relevant?
Has there been any misunderstanding between Carol and Jack on that?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1044
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Posted on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato,

Did Jack want to help Carol using the computer?
NO

Repairing the computer?
Setting up the computer?
Using a specific application?
NO

If any of these, was he competent in doing so?
IRRELEVANT

Were they indoors?
YES

Outdoors?
NO

Using a laptop?
POSSIBLY


You said that snow/ice was relevant.
Was the relevant snow/ice indoors?
NO

Outdoors?
YES


Did snow/ice get in or on the computer?
NO

Was the computer open (that is, you can see the mainboard and stuff) at any point?
NO

Did either of them something for warming themselves that is relevant, such as a hot drink or a hot-water bottle?
NO

When water becomes solid in the cold, it is frozen and when a computer stops reacting to input, it is also called frozen. Is that relevant?
YES

Has there been any misunderstanding between Carol and Jack on that?
YES

VERY GOOD
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"My computer's frozen."
"No problem." *picks up hammer, whacks the laptop several times*
"... that's not what I meant."

Anything like that?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 7:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"My computer's frozen."
"No problem." *picks up hammer, whacks the laptop several times*
"... that's not what I meant."

Anything like that?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 - 3:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had the computer become frozen from the cold? Frozen as in non responsive?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1045
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 - 7:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Logician,

"My computer's frozen."
"No problem." *picks up hammer, whacks the laptop several times*
"... that's not what I meant."

Anything like that?
A LITTLE - BUT FUNNIER
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Post Number: 1046
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BALIN,

Had the computer become frozen from the cold?
NO

Frozen as in non responsive?
YES
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Friday, June 29, 2012 - 8:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he shake it? drop it?
Admin (Admin)
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Post Number: 1047
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Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 7:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez,

did he shake it? drop it?

NO
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Friday, July 06, 2012 - 9:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he think it was frozen from the cold? Did he try to heat it? Did he dunk it in hot water?
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Post Number: 1049
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Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2012 - 11:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This one has been going on too long so I am going to put it to bed.

* * * SPOILER * * *

A man went to work on a cold morning. He received a text message from his wife, 'Windows Frozen.' He texted back 'Pour on some warm water.' A little while later he received the reply, 'Computer completely dead now.'
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2012 - 11:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hee Hee . Nice one
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Monday, July 09, 2012 - 2:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

aaargh!
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2012 - 1:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Brilliant.

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