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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, September 02, 2012 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sequel time! For the background to this puzzle, please read my earlier puzzle "One step forward..."

Also, I have 2 other puzzles that could use some questions... please?

Anyway...


A combination of chance and sacrifice enabled the princess to be rescued.
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Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 12:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was her true location found by chance?

did someone locate her accidentally? did someone let slip a clue?

did the sacrifice involve losing a life? being in pain? financial sacrifice? money? land? a kingdom?
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Posted on Monday, September 03, 2012 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was her true location found by chance? Yes

did someone locate her accidentally? Yes did someone let slip a clue? No

did the sacrifice involve losing a life? Yope being in pain? No financial sacrifice? Yope money? Noish land? No a kingdom? No
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Did only one person find her? If so: HAM?

Is the person who found her the same person who underwent a sacrifice?
Is the criminal dead now?

Dragons relevant? =)
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Did only one person find her? If so: HAM? Yes to both

Is the person who found her the same person who underwent a sacrifice? Yes
Is the criminal dead now? No, and pretty much irrelevant, believe it or not

Dragons relevant? =) Yes =) I put a dragon in because you asked for one, and the dragon is very relevant.
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 3:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hooray!

Is it a fully grown dragon? Is it (he? she?) an ally of the princess? Does it know the rescuer?

Is the rescuer also a knight? Did he intend to rescue the princess? Yope to losing a life: did he sacrifice a life that wasn't his own? Did he make this sacrifice with the express purpose of freeing the princess?
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Is it a fully grown dragon? Yes Is it (he? she?) Either; take your pick an ally of the princess? No Does it know the rescuer? No

Is the rescuer also a knight? No Did he intend to rescue the princess? Not originally Yope to losing a life: did he sacrifice a life that wasn't his own? Yesish Did he make this sacrifice with the express purpose of freeing the princess? Yes
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Posted on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 8:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let's call the dragon a she, like the one in Shrek.

Was the dragon preventing potential rescuers from getting at the princess? Is the type of place the princess was trapped in relevant? Was she in a tower?

Did the rescuer sacrifice the dragon's life? =(
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Let's call the dragon a she, like the one in Shrek. OK. You can name her (and the other characters too), if you like.

Was the dragon preventing potential rescuers from getting at the princess? Yes Is the type of place the princess was trapped in relevant? Yes Was she in a tower? No

Did the rescuer sacrifice the dragon's life? =( No, but...
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 10:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did anybody die? did an animal die?

did our hero distract the dragon by putting someone or something else in her way?

was our hero a prince?
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did anybody die? No did an animal die? Yes, more than one

did our hero distract the dragon by putting someone or something else in her way? Yes

was our hero a prince? No
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 3:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were the animals all of one type?

a flock of sheep? a swarm of bees?
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were the animals all of one type? Yes

a flock of sheep? Yes. How have you been doing so well on my puzzles? a swarm of bees?
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Posted on Friday, September 07, 2012 - 11:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ooh, ok, I wanna name the dragon Donkey. =P

Did Donkey's fire kill the sheep? Was the rescuer (let's call him Bob) a shepherd?
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Oh and the princess has got to be Princess Consuela Bananahammock. (I hope you watch Friends =))

Was Princess Consuela Bananahammock actually locked up in an enclosed space? Was it indoors? Outdoors? Somewhere up high? Somewhere underground? Would she have been able to communicate with Bob prior to being rescued?
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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2012 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've been cheating and using my second sight - I'll turn it off now

did he use the sheep to distract Donkey? or did he hide among them or under them like in the Odyssey?
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Ooh, ok, I wanna name the dragon Donkey. =P OK.

Did Donkey's fire kill the sheep? Yes, and he ate some Was the rescuer (let's call him Bob) a shepherd? Yes

Oh and the princess has got to be Princess Consuela Bananahammock. (I hope you watch Friends =)) I don't, but that name works fine

Was Princess Consuela Bananahammock actually locked up in an enclosed space? Yesish Was it indoors? No Outdoors? Yes Somewhere up high? No Somewhere underground? No Would she have been able to communicate with Bob prior to being rescued? No

I've been cheating and using my second sight - I'll turn it off now =D

did he use the sheep to distract Donkey? Yes or did he hide among them or under them like in the Odyssey? No
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Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2012 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Bob have been able to see her before rescuing her? Or did he infer that she was there by some other means? Whose presence did Bob become aware of first: Donkey's? Princess Consuela's?
Was Princess Consuela surrounded by four walls and a ceiling? Was there a door? A gate? Were the walls opaque? Was there a window? A hole anywhere? Did she have to get her own food or did the criminal have to provide her with food regularly? Was she in the field where Bob's sheep were?
Did Bob have a sheepdog? Did the sheepdog herd the sheep towards Donkey?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 - 1:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Bob have been able to see her before rescuing her? Not immediately Or did he infer that she was there by some other means? Yes Whose presence did Bob become aware of first: Donkey's? This Princess Consuela's?
Was Princess Consuela surrounded by four walls and a ceiling? No Was there a door? No A gate? No Were the walls opaque? Yes Was there a window? No A hole anywhere? No Did she have to get her own food or did the criminal have to provide her with food regularly? The latter Was she in the field where Bob's sheep were? Not quite, but VERY OTRT
Did Bob have a sheepdog? No Did the sheepdog herd the sheep towards Donkey?
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Sunday, September 09, 2012 - 2:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was she in a sheep pen?
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Did the sheep realise Donkey was there? Did they react to her? Did their behaviour hint to Bob that Donkey was there?
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was she in a sheep pen? No

Did the sheep realise Donkey was there? Eventually Did they react to her? Yes Did their behaviour hint to Bob that Donkey was there? No
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was the sacrifice the sheep because these were Bob's own sheep?

was Donkey too busy eating flaming kebabs to notice Bob?
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was the sacrifice the sheep because these were Bob's own sheep? Yes

was Donkey too busy eating flaming kebabs to notice Bob? Yes
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Is magic involved in Princess Consuela's incarceration? Are trees involved? Fences? Stones? Bricks?
Did Bob have to lead his sheep to Donkey? Or were they already in such a position that all he had to do was release a gate/some other similar thing for Donkey to have access to them?
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Is magic involved in Princess Consuela's incarceration? Are trees involved? Fences? Stones? Yes (slight -ish); No to rest Bricks?
Did Bob have to lead his sheep to Donkey? Yes Or were they already in such a position that all he had to do was release a gate/some other similar thing for Donkey to have access to them?
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Was Princess Consuela down a well?
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were the stones part of a building? a bridge? a gate? stepping stones?
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Was Princess Consuela down a well? No

were the stones part of a building? a bridge? a gate? stepping stones? No. I don't think "stones" is the right word.
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rocks? pebbles? tiles? boulders?
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rocks? pebbles? tiles? boulders? Rocks & boulders would be the best words to use, I think.
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did this happen on or near a mountain? was there an avalanche? near a cave?

or did it happen near the sea?
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did this happen on or near a mountain? was there an avalanche? near a cave? This -- in a cave or did it happen near the sea?

You've got almost all of it...
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the princess was in a cave, Bob distracted the dragon by driving his sheep towards or past her, and he rescued her?
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the princess was in a cave, Bob distracted the dragon by driving his sheep towards or past her, and he rescued her? Exactly. The only thing left to find: How did he find the cave in the first place?
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Bob became aware of Donkey's presence by chance, right? Did he see her? Hear her? Smell her? Smell fire? See fire? Hear the roar of flames?

Or did Donkey inadvertently leave a clue behind? Did she eat some of Bob's sheep? (prior to him driving them towards her) Did Bob discover scorch marks on his land? Huge dragon claw prints?
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Bob became aware of Donkey's presence by chance, right? Did he see her? Hear her? Smell her? Smell fire? See fire? Hear the roar of flames? No to all, at first. Eventually he saw her

Or did Donkey inadvertently leave a clue behind? Did she eat some of Bob's sheep? (prior to him driving them towards her) Possibly; No to rest Did Bob discover scorch marks on his land? Huge dragon claw prints?
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Did one of Bob's sheep wander off to where the dragon or the princess was? And Bob went looking for it, leading to his discovery of the hiding place?
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Did one of Bob's sheep wander off to where the dragon or the princess was? And Bob went looking for it, leading to his discovery of the hiding place? Yep.

**********SPOILER**********

The villain had imprisoned Princess Consuela in a cave which happened to be near shepherd Bob's field. One of his sheep wandered off to the cave one day, and Bob, in searching for it, came across the dragon preventing anyone from getting to the princess. Since the dragon had killed his lost sheep, Bob, realizing the princess must be there, sacrificed his sheep and his livelihood by sending them all into the cave. As the dragon chased the sheep around, Bob snuck in and rescued the princess.

Nice solve everyone, especially Shez & Jumpingjack for almost all of the work, and Kyeann for the final piece. New puzzle below.

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