| Author | Message | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2164 Registered: 9-2009 |
Sometimes, three of a kind it's better than a Royal Flush Please explain | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17854 Registered: 4-2010 |
I'll start with the obvious: Do "three of a kind" and "royal flush" refer to the poker hands? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2165 Registered: 9-2009 |
I'll start with the obvious: Do "three of a kind" and "royal flush" refer to the poker hands? No, a more lateral relation exists, however | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17855 Registered: 4-2010 |
Of course... Are the "three of a kind" 3 people? Objects? Places? Does "royal flush" refer to royalty? A toilet? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2166 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the "three of a kind" 3 people? This one. No to the rest Objects? Places? Does "royal flush" refer to royalty? A toilet? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17857 Registered: 4-2010 |
Three people: with the same name? Of the same family? 3 clones? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2167 Registered: 9-2009 |
Three people: with the same name? Of the same family? 3 clones? None of these | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2844 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do the three people have something in common at all? | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 1204 Registered: 5-2009 |
Does the "royal flush" refer to people, too? 5 people? Are the "three of a kind" similar in terms of appearance? Opinion? Occupation? Interests? Location? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2171 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do the three people have something in common at all? Yes Does the "royal flush" refer to people, too? 5 people? Yes to all Are the "three of a kind" similar in terms of appearance? Opinion? Occupation? This one Interests? Location? The rest are unknown and irrelevant | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 729 Registered: 5-2008 |
Does the "royal flush" refer to 5 royals? necessarily including a king and a queen? Can other poker hands sensibly be comparably represented by people e.g. a full house is 3 people of a kind + 2 people of another kind? and then compared with the 3-of-a-kind and royal-flush to establish a ranking of which are 'better' in the terms relevant to the puzzle? | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 422 Registered: 2-2012 |
Does this have to do with your place of work? Are these people (3 or 5), people who you would rather not deal with in the context of this puzzle? And hence, dealing with 5 of these people would be worse than dealing with only 3? Would a four-of-a-kind also be better than a royal flush? Could you have referred to the "royal flush" as simply a "straight flush", with no difference to the puzzle? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2172 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the "royal flush" refer to 5 royals? necessarily including a king and a queen? No, no royal figures involved Can other poker hands sensibly be comparably represented by people e.g. a full house is 3 people of a kind + 2 people of another kind? and then compared with the 3-of-a-kind and royal-flush to establish a ranking of which are 'better' in the terms relevant to the puzzle? No, it is a story about 3 people having a conflict with other 5, the latter being usually considered more experienced for the relevant activity Does this have to do with your place of work? No Are these people (3 or 5), people who you would rather not deal with in the context of this puzzle? No, although a Yope would be sometimes appropriate -- for both groups And hence, dealing with 5 of these people would be worse than dealing with only 3? No Would a four-of-a-kind also be better than a royal flush? Possibly Could you have referred to the "royal flush" as simply a "straight flush", with no difference to the puzzle? Possibly, I chose royal flush however for the reason explained above | ||
| Beachbum (Beachbum)
New member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 426 Registered: 2-2012 |
Does this relate to a real-life occurrence? Fictional? Is this a joke? If true: I know location isn't important, but was this story in the mass media? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2173 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does this relate to a real-life occurrence? Yes, or presumably so, according to media reports Fictional? Is this a joke? It's funny, but not a joke If true: I know location isn't important, but was this story in the mass media? It was, in some countries | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 1210 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is it relevant that in a royal flush not all relevant cards are of the same kind? So the 5 people differ in some relevant property where the 3 people don't? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2181 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is it relevant that in a royal flush not all relevant cards are of the same kind? So the 5 people differ in some relevant property where the 3 people don't? Good idea, but I'd say no, for the purpose of this puzzle HINT: Think of a conflict between a group of three against a group of five, the latter being experts in the relevant field | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 1074 Registered: 8-2011 |
Are the 3 students? Is the particular field relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2183 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the 3 students? NO! Is the particular field relevant? Yes, beware FA. Maybe "profession" is a better word | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2890 Registered: 12-2010 |
[LTPF list of professional fields], please. Sports relevant? Politics? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2186 Registered: 9-2009 |
[LTPF list of professional fields], please. I don't have such a list. For the 5 ones, it's a government - related job. For the other three - it's agriculture Sports relevant? No Politics? Yope | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2893 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are the three people farmers? Do the five people work at the ministry of agriculture? at a town? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2894 Registered: 12-2010 |
(Oh and the list of professional fields can be found here) | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2188 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the three people farmers? Yes Do the five people work at the ministry of agriculture? at a town? No to all | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3550 Registered: 2-2011 |
are the 5 people judges? police? army? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2193 Registered: 9-2009 |
are the 5 people judges? police? army? No to all, strictly speaking. Police and army are somehow on the right track | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 2916 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are they security? Military police? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2196 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they security? Yope Military police? No | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 17923 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do the 5 work as government enforcers of some kind? Officials? Are they trying to seize the farmers' assets? (crops, land?) | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2202 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do the 5 work as government enforcers of some kind? Officials? Yessish Are they trying to seize the farmers' assets? (crops, land?) No to the rest, and a FA is lurking Once the FA is cleared, we will be closer to the solution | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 4402 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are they Baliffs? Or from a Bank? Is something being repossessed? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3564 Registered: 2-2011 |
so the 3 farmers tried to take on the 5 officials and beat them at their own game? which was - the law? armed conflict? bureaucracy? argument? obstruction? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2221 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they Baliffs? Or from a Bank? Is something being repossessed? No to all so the 3 farmers tried to take on the 5 officials and beat them at their own game? Yesish which was - the law? armed conflict? This is closer, but DOYD of "armed conflict", might mislead bureaucracy? argument? obstruction? The lurking FA still needs to be cleared HINT: They didn't speak each other's language | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2222 Registered: 9-2009 |
As a clarification for the hint above, what I meant was that the three were speaking one language, the other five another language | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3569 Registered: 2-2011 |
are the five soldiers? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2223 Registered: 9-2009 |
are the five soldiers? Not exactly, but close enough. They were special forces, but in the intelligence gathering business | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3151 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does this happen during war time? Would the same situation have occured, had they spoken each other's language? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2271 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does this happen during war time? No Would the same situation have occured, had they spoken each other's language? Possibly, but much less likely | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3173 Registered: 12-2010 |
Relevant what country this happened in? If so, [LTPF list of countries], please. Also, [LTPF list of centuries and decades], please. Were the five people trying to get information from the three people? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2274 Registered: 9-2009 |
Relevant what country this happened in? No, but it happened in Bulgaria, just to set the place. If so, [LTPF list of countries], please. Also, [LTPF list of centuries and decades], please. Last year Were the five people trying to get information from the three people? No | ||
| Grainbeer (Grainbeer)
New member Username: Grainbeer Post Number: 411 Registered: 4-2002 |
Did something happen in the agricultural land of one or more of the three farmers? Were the pack of five the foreigners? Were they staying at the 3īs farmland when this happened? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2284 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did something happen in the agricultural land of one or more of the three farmers? No Were the pack of five the foreigners? Yes Were they staying at the 3īs farmland when this happened? No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3691 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the farmers attack the soldiers? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2290 Registered: 9-2009 |
did the farmers attack the soldiers? Yes! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3214 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did the farmers misunderstand the soldiers' intentions? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2293 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the farmers misunderstand the soldiers' intentions? Yes! With the small caveat that they were not soldiers, but special trained intelligence agents We are getting really close... | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3715 Registered: 2-2011 |
did the farmers think the agents had come to steal their produce? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2299 Registered: 9-2009 |
did the farmers think the agents had come to steal their produce? Yes ******* SPOILER ******* In October last year, 5 French secret agents arrived at the border between Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia, on the Bulgarian side, for a top secret mission, the nature of which is not officially known. Two of them were dropped from an airplane in a field near the Danube, while other three came with a civil airline and then joined their two colleagues on location, wih all the equipment that real secret agents use (including swimming jackets, laptops, parachutes, photo cameras, etc). Unfortunately, three peasants mistook them for people trying to steal their crop, and despite the poor agents' desperate try to explain to them that they are highly trained agents in a top secret mission... the peasants gave them a physical lesson that for sure they won't forget it easily. The agents were extradited to France 2 days later, three with various wounds, two unharmed (the latter were, it seems, better at running). One account of the story can be found here: http://www.leparisien.fr/international/cinq-agents-de-la-dgse-attaques-par-des-villageois-en-bulgarie-01-11-2012-2284293.php Thanks to all who participated and to Shez for the final solve. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3718 Registered: 2-2011 |
nice puzzle! |
