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A trait that seems totally irrelevant to their work is apparently unusually common among astronauts. What is it?
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Is it a physical trait? Personality-related? Health-related? Is it to do with things they have done? Their opinions?

Could astronauts of any nationality have this trait? Any gender? Someone who trains as an astronaut but has never been to space? Would they have this trait before they become an astronaut? Might it encourage them to become one? Make it easier for them to become one? Or is it unknown why it is unusually common among astronauts?
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Is it a physical trait? noPersonality-related? no Health-related? no Is it to do with things they have done? noTheir opinions? no

Could astronauts of any nationality have this trait? yope Any gender? It would be possible but much less likely for a woman Someone who trains as an astronaut but has never been to space? yesWould they have this trait before they become an astronaut? yesMight it encourage them to become one? noMake it easier for them to become one? no Or is it unknown why it is unusually common among astronauts? yes, although I could hazard a guess
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Would the astronaut have this trait since birth? Could they ever stop having the trait? Could you tell they had it just by looking at them? Is the trait a positive one? Negative neutral?

Are the astronaut's families relevant? Their background? Education? Names? Race? Religion? Politics? Relationships? Friends? Wealth? What they did before becoming an astronaut?
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Would the astronaut have this trait since birth? yes Could they ever stop having the trait? yes Could you tell they had it just by looking at them? no Is the trait a positive one? Negative neutral? neutral

Are the astronaut's families relevant? yesTheir background? see next answer but one Education? noNames? yes Race? noReligion? yope Politics? no Relationships? yes Friends? noWealth? noWhat they did before becoming an astronaut?
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Are their parents relevant? If so, their parents' religion? whether they're churchgoers? whether they're married/divorced/widowed? Are other relatives relevant? Siblings?

Relevant if the astronauts themselves are married?

By names, do you mean their first names? last names? middle names? Is the origin of their first names relevant? For example, are Biblical names unusually common?

Does this apply to astronauts nowadays? Astronauts several decades ago? All astronauts? Are you only talking about American astronauts relevant?
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Are their parents relevant? yesIf so, their parents' religion? yesish whether they're churchgoers? no whether they're married/divorced/widowed? no Are other relatives relevant? no Siblings?

Relevant if the astronauts themselves are married? no

By names, do you mean their first names? last names? middle names? all 3 are relevant Is the origin of their first names relevant? yes For example, are Biblical names unusually common? not that I know of

Does this apply to astronauts nowadays? Astronauts several decades ago? All astronauts? Are you only talking about American astronauts relevant?
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Does this apply to astronauts nowadays? It's from a book that was published in 1988 Astronauts several decades ago? see previous answer All astronauts? see next answer Are you only talking about American astronauts? yes relevant? yes
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Are their parents relevant in that it is the parents who give the name? Do a lot of astronauts have names that are related with a particular religion? Jewish names?

The religion of the parents - christian? Jewish? Muslim?
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Are their parents relevant in that it is the parents who give the name?yesish Do a lot of astronauts have names that are related with a particular religion? not that I know ofJewish names? no

The religion of the parents - christian? possibly Jewish? unlikelyMuslim? I doubt it but an unsure
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Is the trait: having a particular name? Having a name that fits into a certain category? If so, based on origin? A relationship between the first/middle/last names (such as all starting with the same letter)? Are initials relevant? Having a middle name? Length of name? Spelling of name?
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Is the trait: having a particular name? see next answer Having a name that fits into a certain category? yes If so, based on origin? yes A relationship between the first/middle/last names yes (such as all starting with the same letter That's not it)? Are initials relevant? noHaving a middle name? no Length of name? no Spelling of name? no
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Length of names relevant? Whether or not the name is also an English word? First/middle/last names all having the same origin? Each having a different origin?
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Length of names relevant? noWhether or not the name is also an English word? no First/middle/last names all having the same origin? yesEach having a different origin? no
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Is it having a name from a particular language? From a particular time period?
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Is it having a name from a particular language?no From a particular time period? no
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Is it having a name of a particular origin? From literature? History? Are alternate spellings relevant? Shortened forms of names? Nicknames?
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Is it having a name of a particular origin? yes From literature? no History? noAre alternate spellings relevant? no Shortened forms of names? no Nicknames? no
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Mayflower names relevant?
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Do they all start with a letter from the first half of the alphabet? the last half?
Was that a light-bulb moment or a dim-bulb moment?
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Saint names relevant?
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Having a religious name in general?
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Mayflower names relevant? no
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Do they all start with a letter from the first half of the alphabet? nothe last half? no
Was that a light-bulb moment or a dim-bulb moment? well. . . .
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Saint names relevant? no
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Having a religious name in general? no
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Letters in the name relevant? Spelling? How long the name has been around for? How common the name is? Being names after something? Having the same name as something? Could an astronaut with no middle name have this trait?
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I know that this is not really a lateral approach, but does Neil Armstrong have this trait? Does Buzz Aldrin? Does Michael Collins?
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Having a first name that could also be a last name? Although that wouldn't apply to Collins. What was Aldrin's real first name? Don't suppose his parents christened him "Buzz."
Another dim-bulb moment? :-(
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Just googled & found out that Aldrin's 1st name was Edwin, which could be a family name, but unlikely. So alternate question: is being a 'junior' relevant?
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I'm sure you've solved this Solo, i'm kicking myself because I remember reading once that all 3 crew members of Apollo 13 were 'Juniors'
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Letters in the name relevant? no Spelling? no How long the name has been around for? noHow common the name is? noBeing names after something?yes Having the same name as something? yes Could an astronaut with no middle name have this trait? yes
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I know that this is not really a lateral approach, but does Neil Armstrong have this trait? Does Buzz Aldrin? Does Michael Collins? I don't know
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Having a first name that could also be a last name? noAlthough that wouldn't apply to Collins. no What was Aldrin's real first name? O don't knowDon't suppose his parents christened him "Buzz."
Another dim-bulb moment? :-(
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Letters in the name relevant? no Spelling? no How long the name has been around for? noHow common the name is? noBeing names after something?yes Having the same name as something? yes Could an astronaut with no middle name have this trait? yes
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I know that this is not really a lateral approach, but does Neil Armstrong have this trait? Does Buzz Aldrin? Does Michael Collins? I don't know
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Having a first name that could also be a last name? noAlthough that wouldn't apply to Collins. no What was Aldrin's real first name? I don't knowDon't suppose his parents christened him "Buzz."
Another dim-bulb moment? :-(
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Just googled & found out that Aldrin's 1st name was Edwin, which could be a family name, but unlikely. So alternate question: is being a 'junior' relevant?Yes!!
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I'm sure you've solved this Solo, i'm kicking myself because I remember reading once that all 3 crew members of Apollo 13 were 'Juniors' You got it

********** SPOILER ***********
According to the first edition of Beyond Jennifer and Jason, a baby name book, lots of astronauts are "Juniors." The book doesn't speculate about the reason, but one possibility is that they're apt to come from traditional, conservative families. (The relevance of religion is that Jews virtually never name their kids as "Juniors.") Please check out my new puzzle!!
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What a great surprise! And I was certain that it was the fact that most astronauts (or a plurality, anyway - Buzz was) are left-handed. Great puzzle!
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Thanks -- & great you see you back on the forum!!

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