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Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4422 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 2:39 pm: |      |
Hi everyone , this is a tad silly but we'll see how it goes A man eats his packed lunch everyday at his desk. Right beside the desk there are a number of recycling bins which include ones for food waste, paper products etc. Despite this, he brings his lunch waste home with him every day and disposes of it there. There is a specific (hopefully hard to figure out) reason why he does this. What do think that might be? Actually if the guy ever thought about it there are numerous other ways to achieve the same result but I guess he's never actually sat down and thought about it. |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3220 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 2:52 pm: |      |
his desk = the desk he works at at work? Is his profession relevant? The kind of company he works in? The size of the company? Coworkers relevant? Does he live alone? Relevant? Does he make his lunch himself? Does his wife pack it for him? Relevant what he eats for lunch? If so, something that is eaten cold? Something you have to heat up? Relevant what he packs it in? If so, a lunch box? a paper bag? cling foil? alumimium foil? When he brings his lunch waste home, does he do anything other with it than throw it away? Does he have different bins for different kinds of waste at home? Relevant? Is there anything that he finds embarrassing about his lunch? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1707 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 2:59 pm: |      |
Does the man have any relevant disability? Is he diabetic? Does he follow a diet? Does he eat his lunch at the specific time? Is that relevant? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4966 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 4:13 pm: |      |
Does bringing the waste home: help the company he works for? Hurt the company? Help him? Hurt him? Relevant how much there is of it? Any smell relevant? Pests? |
Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes
Post Number: 168 Registered: 11-2012
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 5:15 pm: |      |
Does he have a pet that gets the waste? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 18088 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2013 - 7:16 pm: |      |
Is the pack that he brings his lunch in part of the waste? Relevant? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4425 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:21 am: |      |
Doriana his desk = the desk he works at at work? Yes Is his profession relevant? The kind of company he works in? The size of the company? Coworkers relevant? No to rest Does he live alone? No Relevant? No Does he make his lunch himself? Yes Does his wife pack it for him? No Relevant what he eats for lunch? Yes If so, something that is eaten cold? Yes Something you have to heat up? No Relevant what he packs it in? Yes If so, a lunch box? Yes a paper bag? cling foil? alumimium foil? yes , we call it tin foil by the way When he brings his lunch waste home, does he do anything other with it than throw it away? NoDoes he have different bins for different kinds of waste at home? Yes Relevant? No Is there anything that he finds embarrassing about his lunch? No |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4426 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:22 am: |      |
Redwine Does the man have any relevant disability? No Is he diabetic? Does he follow a diet? No to these Does he eat his lunch at the specific time? Usually at 1pm Is that relevant? No |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4427 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:24 am: |      |
Galfisk Does bringing the waste home: help the company he works for? No Hurt the company? No Help him? It would be stretching it to say it helps him but there is a small benefit Hurt him? No Relevant how much there is of it? yope Any smell relevant? Pests? No to rest |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4428 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:26 am: |      |
Deholmes Does he have a pet that gets the waste? Nice thinking but no I'm afraid |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4429 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:27 am: |      |
Balin Is the pack that he brings his lunch in part of the waste? No Relevant? The pack/lunchbox is relevant |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4430 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 10:28 am: |      |
BTW he is me |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1712 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 12:27 pm: |      |
Is it relevant how often is the bin emptied at work? At home? Is smell of food relevant? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 3355 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 1:43 pm: |      |
Is he dieting/counting calories/keeping a food log? and taking the waste home helps him keep track of what he has eaten? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4432 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 1:49 pm: |      |
Redwine Is it relevant how often is the bin emptied at work? At home? Is smell of food relevant? No to all of these |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4433 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 1:51 pm: |      |
Noel Is he dieting/counting calories/keeping a food log? and taking the waste home helps him keep track of what he has eaten? No to these , I have put on some weight since I quit smoking but dieting is not relevant |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3245 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 2:44 pm: |      |
Is it relevant what the lunch box is made of? If so, plastic? metal? Relevant how big the lunch box is? what colour it is? Is it relevant how he brings the lunchbox to work? Does he carry it in a backpack? a briefcase? a tote bag? in his hand? Does he eat sandwiches for lunch? fruit? vegetables? cereal? yoghurt? pastries? sweets? Does he have waste every day? Does the waste include wrappers? leftovers? inedible parts of fruits/vegetables (peel, seeds etc)? Would disposing of his waste on his way home have the same effect? Is anything about his way home relevant? means of transportation? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 1718 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 3:01 pm: |      |
Does his lunchbox have a sentimental value for him? Does he need his lunchbox at home for other purpose than packing lunch for the next day? Is the benefit he gains of environmental nature? economical nature? social nature? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4434 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 10:39 am: |      |
Doriana Is it relevant what the lunch box is made of? Yes If so, plastic? Yes it's tupperware metal? Relevant how big the lunch box is? Yope what colour it is? No Is it relevant how he brings the lunchbox to work? Yes Does he carry it in a backpack? Yes a briefcase? a tote bag? in his hand? Does he eat sandwiches for lunch? Yes fruit? Yes vegetables? cereal? yoghurt? Yes pastries? sweets? Does he have waste every day? Yes Does the waste include wrappers? Yes leftovers? Rarely inedible parts of fruits/vegetables (peel, seeds etc)? Yes Would disposing of his waste on his way home have the same effect? No Is anything about his way home relevant? Yes means of transportation? Yes Excellent questions Doriana |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4435 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 10:41 am: |      |
Redwine Does his lunchbox have a sentimental value for him? No Does he need his lunchbox at home for other purpose than packing lunch for the next day? No Is the benefit he gains of environmental nature? economical nature? social nature? Yope to Social nature, it's actually hard to put the benefit into a particular category. |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3261 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 11:53 am: |      |
Does he go home on foot? By bike? Car? Bus? Tramway/subway? Train? Motorcycle? Carpooling relevant? Is the weight of his backpack relevant? Of the lunchbox? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4996 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 11:55 am: |      |
Is the speed of transportation relevant? Does he go by: own car? Riding with someone? bus? Train? airplane? Helicopter? Blimp? Walking? Skateboard? Rollerskates? Bicycle? Subway? Tram? Escalator? Lift? Distance to the home relevant? Does he do anything relevant during travel? Is some of the waste more relevant than the rest? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 3721 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 3:08 pm: |      |
is there anything in the lunchbox when he gets home? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4439 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 3:49 pm: |      |
Doriana Does he go home on foot? Yes By bike? Car? Bus? Yes Tramway/subway? Train? And yes, as you can see i have a complicated commute but the only relevant piece of my journey home is the part that I complete on foot Motorcycle? Carpooling relevant? No Is the weight of his backpack relevant? Of the lunchbox? No to both |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4440 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 3:51 pm: |      |
Galfisk Is the speed of transportation relevant? No Does he go by: own car? Riding with someone? bus? Train? airplane? Helicopter? Blimp? Walking? Skateboard? Rollerskates? Bicycle? Subway? Tram? Escalator? Lift? See my answer to Doriana above Distance to the home relevant? No Does he do anything relevant during travel? Only walking Is some of the waste more relevant than the rest? Yes |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4441 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 3:52 pm: |      |
Shez is there anything in the lunchbox when he gets home? Yes |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 5005 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 4:01 pm: |      |
Does the lunchbox rattle? Relevant? Is the lunchbox opened during the journey? Touched? Is it in the backpack? Ina pocket? Held? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 18097 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - 5:21 pm: |      |
Do you save some of your lunch for the walk home? Or bring snacks in your lunchbox for the walk home? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4442 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:34 am: |      |
Shez Does the lunchbox rattle? Yes, well done Relevant? Yes so go ahead and spoyle this Is the lunchbox opened during the journey? No Touched? No Is it in the backpack? Yes Ina pocket? Held? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4443 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:35 am: |      |
Balin Do you save some of your lunch for the walk home? No Or bring snacks in your lunchbox for the walk home? No |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 5013 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 10:49 am: |      |
Do you want the lunchbox to rattle so someone can hear you coming? Someone at home? Spouse? Child? Pet? Or do you just like to hear it rattle? Does it rattle whenever you walk? Or do you do something to make it rattle when you want? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4446 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 11:56 am: |      |
Do you want the lunchbox to rattle so someone can hear you coming? Someone at home? Spouse? Child? Pet? Or do you just like to hear it rattle? Does it rattle whenever you walk? Or do you do something to make it rattle when you want? Sorry Galfisk I can see how my previous answer has thrown you off the scent here. What I meant to say when you asked 'Does the lunchbox rattle?' was 'Well something in there would if i didn't bring home my waste' I actually do not want it to rattle . Hope that's clear |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3274 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 12:39 pm: |      |
Does the lunchbox contain a smaller box? And the smaller box would rattle if you didn't put the waste in the bigger box? Or does the box not stay in place in the backpack when it's empty, but it does when there's waste in it? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 5018 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 12:56 pm: |      |
Aha, so you want the lunchbox not to rattle? And you use the waste to make sure it does not? Because it rattles when empty? Any specific reason you want it to be quiet? Or is it simply annoying? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4447 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 2:17 pm: |      |
Doriana Does the lunchbox contain a smaller box? No And the smaller box would rattle if you didn't put the waste in the bigger box? No but in the right ballpark Or does the box not stay in place in the backpack when it's empty, but it does when there's waste in it? There's an element of this yes Galfisk Aha, so you want the lunchbox not to rattle? Indeed And you use the waste to make sure it does not? Correct Because it rattles when empty? Well not empty but close enough Any specific reason you want it to be quiet? Or is it simply annoying? This .. and with that I think we can put this silly little puzzle to bed.... ***************Spoiler**************** I use my iPod on my commute to and from work and whether I'm listening to music (not too loud for the sake of my fellow passengers) or one of the 14 different podcasts that I download each week I cannot hear other sounds around me. I'm usually very careful to make sure my iPod is fully charged each morning as my day would be ruined without it. One day I forgot to charge the iPod, the battery died and I was faced with a commute home with nothing to listen to but inane bus & train phone chatter like 'I'm on the train' 'I'll be home in 20 mins' 'What's for tea?' 'I'm running late will you record Downton Abbey?' etc. etc. This is a real pet hate of mine as you've probably guessed. As I was walking to the train station that evening with my backpack on I suddenly became aware of a really annonying clunking noise made by my metal yoghurt spoon rattling about in my otherwise empty lunchbox. I was a bit embarrassed to think that I had been oblivious to this noise up until then due to the ever present iPod. Not wanting to annoy myself or other people I now keep my rubbish in my lunchbox so the tinfoil and paper napkins etc. prevent the spoon from banging against the side of the lunchbox. I know that there's other ways to achieve this (not taking the spoon home would be one) but I've become used to doing this and I'm a creature of habit. Hope you enjoyed this effort on an issue that is, as I'm sure you'll all agree, of critical importance. Thanks to all who played and for Doriana & Galfisk for killing it off. |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3278 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 2:21 pm: |      |
Nice puzzle! At one point in the puzzle I wanted to ask if silverware was relevant, but I forgot - maybe we would have solved it sooner. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 18107 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2013 - 9:57 pm: |      |
Maybe you should let the clunking persist and maybe the chatter will slow down. Nice puzzle - wish I could have worked on it more. |