| Author | Message | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 395 Registered: 7-2006 |
A rerun of one that i did several years ago. A lorry is parked by the roadside. There is a sloshing sound coming from inside its body. A man stands beside the lorry, banging his head into it. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5072 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the man doing anything constructive? Dangerous? Expressing a feeling? Any other people involved? Sloshing of: water? Liquid which is mostly water? Alcohol? Anything flammable? Is the lorry a tanker? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 398 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the man doing anything constructive? Dangerous? Expressing a feeling? This Any other people involved? Yes Sloshing of: water? Liquid which is mostly water? This Alcohol? Anything flammable? Is the lorry a tanker? No to the others | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3323 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the man the lorry driver? Are there any other relevant vehicles? Is the man expressing anger? sadness? helplessness? desperation? fear? another negative feeling? The other relevant people - one person? two people? more than that? H/A/M? F? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 447 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is the liquid inside a container? Several containers? Is the lorry carrying other things besides the liquid? Has the man been doing something illegal? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 399 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the man the lorry driver? Yes Are there any other relevant vehicles? No Is the man expressing anger? sadness? helplessness? desperation? fear? another negative feeling? Probably a mixture of anger, sadness, helplessness and desperation. Not fear. The other relevant people - one person? two people? more than that? H/A/M? F? HAF Is the liquid inside a container? No Several containers? No Is the lorry carrying other things besides the liquid? No, irrelevant Has the man been doing something illegal? Irrelevant, let's say no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5076 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the woman: in the liquid? In the lorry cabin? Outside? Is she alive? Is she in danger? Is the liquid supposed to be in there? Relevant how much it is? Relevant why it's sloshing? Is it expensive? Is it dangerous (except for the dangers of water)? Any animals involved? Is the woman his: friend? Colleague? Romantic partner? Romantic interest? Enemy? Stranger? Relative? Relevant? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 400 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the woman: in the liquid? Yes In the lorry cabin? Outside? Is she alive? No Is she in danger? So no Is the liquid supposed to be in there? No Relevant how much it is? A bit Relevant why it's sloshing? No Is it expensive? Noish Is it dangerous (except for the dangers of water)? Noish Any animals involved? No Is the woman his: friend? Colleague? Romantic partner? Romantic interest? Enemy? Stranger? Relative? Stranger is the closest Relevant? I suppose so | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3339 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he know the woman was in the liquid? Relevant how she died? If so, natural causes? Accident? Manslaughter? Suicide? Relevant how she got into the lorry? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 448 Registered: 9-2006 |
I assume the driver was taking the woman somewhere when suddenly he had to stop by the road, correct? Relevant to know why he stopped? Was the liquid in solid state and it melted? Relevant to know the exact composition of the liquid? Or knowing it was "mostly water" is enough? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 401 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did he know the woman was in the liquid? Yes Relevant how she died? Yes If so, natural causes? Accident? Manslaughter? This is the closest Suicide? Relevant how she got into the lorry? Yes I assume the driver was taking the woman somewhere when suddenly he had to stop by the road, correct? Um... correctish Relevant to know why he stopped? A bit Was the liquid in solid state and it melted? No Relevant to know the exact composition of the liquid? Yes Or knowing it was "mostly water" is enough? No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5080 Registered: 9-2009 |
Volume of liquid: less than: 1 liter? 10? 100? 1000? 10000? Is it: drink? Washing/cleaning liquid? Waste liquid? Fire suppressant? Is it natural in origin? Manmade? Did he put it there? Did it end up there accidentally? Did the woman get in before the liquid did? Was she a hitchhiker? Stowaway? Criminal? Did he mean to: kill her? Chase her away? Soak her? Punish her? Be nice to her? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 757 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did he know she was there before he started driving the truck that day? Was she dead before he started driving? She was placed/pushed into the water by someone else? Was she alive when she entered the water? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 402 Registered: 7-2006 |
Volume of liquid: less than: 1 liter? 10? 100? 1000? This 10000? Is it: drink? Washing/cleaning liquid? Waste liquid? Fire suppressant? Is it natural in origin? Yes Manmade? Did he put it there? No to the others Did it end up there accidentally? Yes, DOYD Did the woman get in before the liquid did? Yes Was she a hitchhiker? Stowaway? Criminal? None of these Did he mean to: kill her? Chase her away? Soak her? Punish her? Be nice to her? None of these Did he know she was there before he started driving the truck that day? Yes Was she dead before he started driving? Yes She was placed/pushed into the water by someone else? No Was she alive when she entered the water? No. FA. | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 758 Registered: 5-2008 |
Summary (please note any line that is entirely accurate): A truck driver is at the side of the road upset about something. His truck is carrying some form of liquid - mostly water and the dead body of a woman. The woman had entered into the body of the truck before the liquid had. He knew she was there before he started driving. So presumably this was not what he was upset about. He negative emotions do not include fear. So presumably he is not, at this moment at least, afraid of being prosecuted for murder. Had she been there a while? longer than since the last time the truck was driven? Did she enter the truck of free will? alive? Did she die of [LTPF list of deaths]? Does the driver feel responsible for her death? Is he responsible for her death? Intentionally? Was he upset before he started driving? about the same thing as he later upset about at the side of the road? Something changed/ occurred during his truck journey that is directly responsible for his becoming upset? and his being at the side of the road? Did he pull over to the side of the road himself? Has he enough fuel to continue his journey? to complete his journey? Has he run out of time in some way? Has he upset about running out of/ losing something important other than fuel or time? Does his truck, less the weight of the fuel used to power the engine, weigh the same as it did when it started the journey? Is the truck in relation to his job? Is the liquid his typical cargo? the truck's typical cargo? Is the liquid intended for some use? waste? a form of fuel? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1760 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is it relevant when did the woman die? Is she a prehistorical woman and was taken to a laboratory? or museum? Was the liquid supposed to preserve the body in good condition? Was the body supposed to be examinated? If yes, is the examination still possible? | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 764 Registered: 5-2008 |
Alternatively, if you disagree with my use of an LTPF list, I'd like to more specifically ask; Did she drown? Did she die as the result of a fall? Did she die as the result of a collision with a blunt object? Was she shot? stabbed? Was she intentionally killed? Though perhaps I should have first asked, is the way she died relevant? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 2304 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was she hiding in there, before the liquid being poured over her? Is the liquid gasoline? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 403 Registered: 7-2006 |
Summary (please note any line that is entirely accurate): A truck driver is at the side of the road upset about something. His truck is carrying some form of liquid - mostly water and the dead body of a woman. The woman had entered into the body of the truck before the liquid had. Yes He knew she was there before he started driving. So presumably this was not what he was upset about. He negative emotions do not include fear. So presumably he is not, at this moment at least, afraid of being prosecuted for murder. Those not commented on are correct Had she been there a while? longer than since the last time the truck was driven? No Did she enter the truck of free will? No alive? No Did she die of [LTPF list of deaths]? Please post a concrete list Does the driver feel responsible for her death? No Is he responsible for her death? Intentionally? Neither Was he upset before he started driving? No about the same thing as he later upset about at the side of the road? So no Something changed/ occurred during his truck journey that is directly responsible for his becoming upset? Yes(ish) and his being at the side of the road? Did he pull over to the side of the road himself? Yes Has he enough fuel to continue his journey? to complete his journey? Both yes Has he run out of time in some way? No Has he upset about running out of/ losing something important other than fuel or time? Well, yes, in a way Does his truck, less the weight of the fuel used to power the engine, weigh the same as it did when it started the journey? NO - good question Is the truck in relation to his job? Yes Is the liquid his typical cargo? the truck's typical cargo? Both no Is the liquid intended for some use? waste? a form of fuel? None of these | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 404 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is it relevant when did the woman die? YES Is she a prehistorical woman No and was taken to a laboratory? Yes... or museum? ...or perhaps this Was the liquid supposed to preserve the body in good condition? No Was the body supposed to be examinated? Very likely If yes, is the examination still possible? NO | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 405 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did she drown? Did she die as the result of a fall? Did she die as the result of a collision with a blunt object? Was she shot? stabbed? No to these Was she intentionally killed? Yes Though perhaps I should have first asked, is the way she died relevant? Yes | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 406 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was she hiding in there, before the liquid being poured over her? No Is the liquid gasoline? We have established that the liquid is mostly water | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3740 Registered: 2-2011 |
has he driven through a ford or stream and the water got into the truck that way? or did he drive into a lake? is the water rainwater? was he taking the woman's body to a laboratory for forensic examination? experimentation? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 408 Registered: 7-2006 |
has he driven through a ford or stream and the water got into the truck that way? or did he drive into a lake? No to these is the water rainwater? Yes was he taking the woman's body to a laboratory for forensic examination? experimentation? Probably not any of these, but exactly what kind of place he is heading for is not relevant | ||
| Liquizt (Liquizt)
New member Username: Liquizt Post Number: 766 Registered: 5-2008 |
Did she lose any blood? and die from this loss? Did she die of electrocution? a poison or toxin? Was she alive at the time the truck driver was born? became a truck driver? The liquid serves no specific purpose in the truck? Did he lose some of the liquid as he drove? Is the liquid clear? relevant? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 409 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did she lose any blood? and die from this loss? Did she die of electrocution? a poison or toxin? None of these Was she alive at the time the truck driver was born? became a truck driver? Neither The liquid serves no specific purpose in the truck? Correct Did he lose some of the liquid as he drove? Maybe, irrelevant Is the liquid clear? As clear as rainwater in a truck body usually is relevant? Marginally | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5086 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the liquid rain? Mud? Blood? Sewage? Urine? Was she dead before she entered? Killed during the act of entering? Died after entering? Is he upset that the liquid is there? Did it enter while he drove? Did it enter gradually? All at once? Did he cause it to enter? Did he mean for it to enter? Was his intent to transport a dead body? Relvant where he: is coming from? Is going to? Death from: old age? Poison? Disease? Violence? Organ failure? Blood loss? Decapitation? Radiation? Heat? Cold? Drowning? Suffocation? Drug? Did he put her int he truck? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 410 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the liquid rain? Yes Mud? Blood? Sewage? Urine? None of these Was she dead before she entered? Yes Killed during the act of entering? No Died after entering? No Is he upset that the liquid is there?Yes Did it enter while he drove? Yes Did it enter gradually? Yes All at once? No Did he cause it to enter? No Did he mean for it to enter? No Was his intent to transport a dead body? No Relvant where he: is coming from? Yes Is going to? Not very Death from: old age? Poison? Disease? Violence? Organ failure? Blood loss? Decapitation? Radiation? Heat? Cold? Drowning? Suffocation? Drug? None of these Did he put her in he truck? Yes | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 4451 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was his intention to prove something which he now cannot? DNA relevant? Had her body been previously preserved? if so naturally e.g in a peat bog? Does a relevant reaction to the rain water take place? is the body clothed? relevant? Is it skeletal? Will the man suffer a financial loss? if so an actual outlay or a loss of potential earnings? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5089 Registered: 9-2009 |
Death from: fall? Collision? Injury? Did he do anything criminal? Could he have hindered the rain from entering? If so, did he: forget to do so? Fail to do so? Do so, but then something went wrong? Relevant what he was going to do with her after transporting her? Does anyone else know she is there? Relevant? Other people relevant except those two? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1765 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was her body of historical value? Did the rainwater damage the body to the extent that it lost its value? Was she a famous historical figure? Did he transport her body in a container? If yes, was the container valuable? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 411 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was his intention to prove something which he now cannot? Maybe DNA relevant? No Had her body been previously preserved? You could say that if so naturally e.g in a peat bog? No Does a relevant reaction to the rain water take place? Yes is the body clothed? Yes relevant? No Is it skeletal? No Will the man suffer a financial loss? Very likely if so an actual outlay or a loss of potential earnings? Mainly the latter; maybe some of the former too | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 412 Registered: 7-2006 |
Death from: fall? Collision? Injury? None of these Did he do anything criminal? No Could he have hindered the rain from entering? Maybe. Irrelevant. If so, did he: forget to do so? Fail to do so? This Do so, but then something went wrong? Relevant what he was going to do with her after transporting her? Only very peripherally Does anyone else know she is there? Let's say no Relevant? No Other people relevant except those two? Only peripherally | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 413 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was her body of historical value? Yes Did the rainwater damage the body to the extent that it lost its value? Yes Was she a famous historical figure? Yes Did he transport her body in a container? No If yes, was the container valuable? So no Some very good questions here | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 3347 Registered: 12-2010 |
Had she died in [LTPF list of centuries]? Is she a mummy? a bog body? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 416 Registered: 7-2006 |
Had she died in [LTPF list of centuries]? I believe that to be disputed in several senses, but around 20th century BCE Is she a mummy? No a bog body? No | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 5243 Registered: 12-2000 |
Good to see you back Torgeir. What was the answer to your puzzle about taking your wife to a car wash on your anniversary? I can't find the puzzle in the current/limbo/or 5 months of recently solved puzzles. I'd love to know the answer! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 5244 Registered: 12-2000 |
Was she someone who had claimed to be Anastasia who supposedly escaped the killing of the Romanov family? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18141 Registered: 4-2010 |
Wow, this puzzle is moving fast. Better get some questions in... Is it relevant how the rain entered the lorry? Was there a hole in the lorry? An open window? Was she a supposed Biblical figure? | ||
| Danielvs (Danielvs)
New member Username: Danielvs Post Number: 451 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is he driving from: A museum? A cemetery? An excavation site? A cave? Indoor place? Outdoor place? Is it a place open to the public? Is it a private property? You said the liquid was "mostly water" and that there was a sort of reaction to something in her body/clothing. Did the rain water dissolve something? Some kind of salt? | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 417 Registered: 7-2006 |
Hi Lynne! I remember that puzzle but vaguely. But I can tell you that the day we married, I picked up my wife-to-be in a rather dirty car, having planned to drive it through a car wash on the way to the place where the ceremony would take place. And so I did. This was of course a total clash of the feminine value "romantic wedding" and the male value "practicality". I did not see any obvious counterargument to the suggestion "why not just drive the car through a carwash on the way to the wedding". | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 418 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was she someone who had claimed to be Anastasia who supposedly escaped the killing of the Romanov family? No Is it relevant how the rain entered the lorry? No Was there a hole in the lorry? An open window? Um... am I mistaken about the meaning of the English word "lorry"? I think it should be pretty obvious how the rain entered the lorry Was she a supposed Biblical figure? YES Is he driving from: A museum? A cemetery? An excavation site? This A cave? Indoor place? Outdoor place? Is it a place open to the public? Is it a private property? Irrelevant You said the liquid was "mostly water" and that there was a sort of reaction to something in her body/clothing. Did the rain water dissolve something? Yes Some kind of salt? Yes And so, only one question is left to ask, I suppose | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1773 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was her body preserved in the block of salt? Was she supposed to be the wife of Loth? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18148 Registered: 4-2010 |
I'm American -- we don't use "lorry" much (read: "at all"). So I'm a bit confused as to what kind of truck this is. But no matter, as I think the last question has this puzzle solved. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 420 Registered: 7-2006 |
Was her body preserved in the block of salt? Was she supposed to be the wife of Loth? YES ***************** SPOILER ****************** In a cave, the archaeologist found a statue of some white material that he thought to be marble. He loaded it onto a lorry to take it to a place better suited for examination. On the way there, it began raining heavily. Somewhere along the way, the man stopped for a break, and to have another peek at his find. He now finds that it is gone. Tasting the water in the lorry's body, he finds it to be very salty. It dawns on him that his find was Lot's wife, who was turned into a statue of salt. So on the same day, he has made one of the most revolutionary archaeological finds ever, and ruined it totally by neglecting to protect it against the weather. | ||
| Abc (Abc)
Moderator Username: Abc Post Number: 421 Registered: 7-2006 |
Thanks to everyone who participated. It lasted a bit longer this time. The first time I posted it, it was gone in, I think, about 5 postings, maybe because then, in the initial puzzle statement I offered the information that the sloshing liquid was salty water. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 4452 Registered: 1-2007 |
Great puzzle Abc, very creative. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 18155 Registered: 4-2010 |
Very good puzzle. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2626 Registered: 11-2008 |
I came too late to participate in this, but I must tell you, abc, that this was a GREAT puzzle indeed! |
