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Nimue (Nimue)
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Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Moira subscribes to several magazines, but she keeps them hidden, even though none has any content that is illegal (such as child porn) or even apt to offend anyone. How come?
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Are the magazines all of the same type? fashion? science? economy? cars? hobby?

Does Moira have any connection to any media business? a magazine publisher?
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Are the magazines all of the same type? irrelfashion? irrelscience? irrel economy? irrel cars? irrelhobby? irrel

Does Moira have any connection to any media business? no a magazine publisher? no
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Posted on Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Moira = H?A?F?

Are the magazines produced by different publishers? still in publication?
Is Moira receiving the latest issues?

Is she interested in their content? price? freebies? method of delivery? the materials from which they are constructed? the magazine's use of its money? spending money on them?

Does she use her own money on the subscriptions? a positive, non-zero amount?

Does she hide them for fear of being judged? because she's collecting them as a surprise for someone else?
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relevant where Moira works? Do others take her magazines and not return them? relevant where she hides them? Do they contain professional information that she wants to keep available?
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is she doing this to assist her in committing a crime? fraud?
is she trying to prove something? make something happen? stop something from happening?
could she achieve the same effect by having some other goods delivered regularly?
would she achieve the same effect by buying editions of the magazines in a shop?
does she want someone to find them? if someone finds them does she think she will come to harm? someone else will come to harm?

are any of these relevant - her job? her education? her hobbies? her family? her romantic relationships? her pets? her religion? her politics? her physical appearance? her age? her race? the language she speaks?
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Is Moira featured in these magazines? Picture on the cover? Article published? Poem published?

Are the magazines about the same particular group? Interest? Hobby? Are these magazines Jewish publications? And Moira doesn't want everybody walking through the door to assume she's Jewish (after all the effort she went to breaking away)? Maybe they're from the AARP? And she doesn't want people making assumptions about her age?

Are the magazines more in the style of... Newsweek? Bride? National Geographic? Playboy? PC World? 101 Puzzles? Better Homes & Gardens?
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Does she hide them from a specific person / specific people? If so, family members? friends? co-workers? neighbours? authorities?

Does she keep them at home? at work?

Are they in her native language?
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Moira = H? yesA? yesF?yes (given the female name), but irrel

Are the magazines produced by different publishers? irrel still in publication? irrel
Is Moira receiving the latest issues? possibly but earlier issues are involved as well

Is she interested in their content? price? freebies? method of delivery? the materials from which they are constructed? the magazine's use of its money? spending money on them?answers to all these questions are irrel

Does she use her own money on the subscriptions? irrel a positive, non-zero amount? irrel

Does she hide them for fear of being judged? yesbecause she's collecting them as a surprise for someone else? no
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relevant where Moira works? yesishDo others take her magazines and not return them? norelevant where she hides them? yesDo they contain professional information that she wants to keep available? no
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You missed three sets of questions

Does Moira read the magazines? Do something else with them (other than hide them)?
Is there a relevant thing that all the magazines have in common?
Nimue (Nimue)
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BLOOPERRRRRALERTTTTT!!!!Do they contain professional information that she wants to keep available? no The answer should be irrel
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is she doing this to assist her in committing a crime? nofraud? no
is she trying to prove something? no make something happen? nostop something from happening? yes
could she achieve the same effect by having some other goods delivered regularly? no
would she achieve the same effect by buying editions of the magazines in a shop? no
does she want someone to find them? noif someone finds them does she think she will come to harm? yessomeone else will come to harm? no

are any of these relevant - her job? yesish her education? noher hobbies? no her family? yes her romantic relationships? no her pets? noher religion? no her politics? noher physical appearance? yesish her age?yes her race? nothe language she speaks? no
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Is Moira featured in these magazines? noPicture on the cover? noArticle published? noPoem published? no

Are the magazines about the same particular group? irrelInterest? irrel Hobby? irrel Are these magazines Jewish publications? irrel And Moira doesn't want everybody walking through the door to assume she's Jewish (after all the effort she went to breaking away)? no--and, by the way, it's a snap to break away from being Jewish. I did it!!Maybe they're from the AARP? irrel And she doesn't want people making assumptions about her age? no

Are the magazines more in the style of... Newsweek? Bride? National Geographic? Playboy? PC World? 101 Puzzles? Better Homes & Gardens? irrel to all
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Does she hide them from a specific person / specific people? see next answersIf so, family members? yesfriends? yesco-workers? no neighbours? yes authorities? yesish or yope

Does she keep them at home? yesat work? no

Are they in her native language? irrel
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Does Moira read the magazines? Do something else with them (other than hide them)?
Is there a relevant thing that all the magazines have in common?
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Enjay (Enjay)
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Does Moira read the magazines? possiblyDo something else with them (other than hide them)? no
Is there a relevant thing that all the magazines have in common? no
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Is her weight relevant? Her height? Hair? Skin? Eyes? Dress style? How attractive she is? Is there something unusual about her appearance?

Is she aged 18-30? 30-40? 40-50? 50-60? 60-70? Over 70?

Does she think she will be judged because of the content of the magazines? Because she gets magazines at all? Because she gets them on subscription? Does she not want people to know that she subscribes to magazines? That she reads them? That she gets them delivered?

Do people have a reason to believe that she would not get magazines? Has she previously expressed any relevant opinion? Is she pretending to be blind?

If she didn't hide the magazines, would she be risking embarrassment? The exposure of a secret? Family and friends turning against her? Losing her job? Physical harm?

Relevant how the magazines are addressed to her? How they are delivered? Does she use a false name? Is her address relevant?
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Is her weight relevant?possibly Her height? no Hair? possiobly Skin? no Eyes? noDress style? possibly How attractive she is?\b} noish} Is there something unusual about her appearance? possiobly

Is she aged 18-30? no 30-40? no 40-50? no50-60? very unlikely 60-70? possiblyOver 70? most likely

Does she think she will be judged because of the content of the magazines? Because she gets magazines at all? Because she gets them on subscription? Does she not want people to know that she subscribes to magazines? That she reads them? That she gets them delivered? no to all in this group

Do people have a reason to believe that she would not get magazines? Has she previously expressed any relevant opinion? Is she pretending to be blind?no toi all in this group

If she didn't hide the magazines, would she be risking embarrassment? yesThe exposure of a secret? possibly Family and friends turning against her? yes Losing her job? possiblyPhysical harm? yesish

Relevant how the magazines are addressed to her? no How they are delivered? noDoes she use a false name? no Is her address relevant? no
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Is she keeping something a secret? Lying about something? Her age? Is it relevant how old people are often thought of?

Would the harm come to her because the magazines would reveal something about her? Would she be physically harmed by another person? A group? By illness? An accident? By not being able to protect herself?

For the same reason does she also not mention to anybody that she subscribes to magazines? Would she be happy for people to know that she subscribes to magazines, so long as they didn't see the magazines?

Does she subscribe to them for any reason other than the normal reasons people subscribe to magazines?

Does she live alone? With family? Friends? In some kind of institution or group home? Is it relevant where she lives?

Relevant why she gets subscriptions instead of buying magazines from a shop? Does she have difficulty in getting to a shop?
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Is she keeping something a secret? yopeLying about something? no Her age? no Is it relevant how old people are often thought of? yes

Would the harm come to her because the magazines would reveal something about her? yope Would she be physically harmed by another person? possiblyA group? ditto By illness? no An accident? noBy not being able to protect herself?possibly

For the same reason does she also not mention to anybody that she subscribes to magazines? no Would she be happy for people to know that she subscribes to magazines, so long as they didn't see the magazines? yes

Does she subscribe to them for any reason other than the normal reasons people subscribe to magazines? no

Does she live alone? yes With family? noFriends? noIn some kind of institution or group home? noIs it relevant where she lives? It's relevant that she lives alone.

Relevant why she gets subscriptions instead of buying magazines from a shop? No-- the puzzle would work just as well if she got them from a shop. Does she have difficulty in getting to a shop? irrel
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Is she a hoarder?

Would she be classed mentally uninhibited?
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You said her weight, hair and dress style are possibly relevant. Do they make her look younger than she actually is? older? relevant?
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is it important what she wants people to think she is doing with the magazines rather than hiding them? does she want them to think she is throwing them away? is she afraid of her family taking away her autonomy? saying she is demented? putting her in an old peoples' home?

is the scenario this: she is an old lady who does not want to throw away or give away her magazines? she thinks that her family will think it odd that she keeps them? and will use it as a reason to have her declared unfit to look after herself? or will think she cannot look after herself? and so she hides them so that her family doesn't know she is keeping them? and pretends to throw them away? or give them away?
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Is she a hoarder? What is a hoarder-- someone who keeps more stuff than other people think she should? Then, maybe

Would she be classed mentally uninhibited? Do you mean unbalanced? Yes, she might run that risk
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You said her weight, hair and dress style are possibly relevant. Do they make her look younger than she actually is? probably notolder? possiblyrelevant? possibly
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is it important what she wants people to think she is doing with the magazines rather than hiding them? no does she want them to think she is throwing them away? no-- she wants people not to see them at all is she afraid of her family taking away her autonomy? saying she is demented? yes putting her in an old peoples' home? yes

is the scenario this: she is an old lady who does not want to throw away or give away her magazines? yesshe thinks that her family will think it odd that she keeps them? yesand will use it as a reason to have her declared unfit to look after herself? yes or will think she cannot look after herself? and so she hides them so that her family doesn't know she is keeping them? yes and pretends to throw them away? possibly or give them away? possibly

***** SPOILER ***********
Clever Hannah triumphs again!! Moira is an old woman who likes to have lots of magazines around. She was perfectly happy with this, until she read an article in The NY Times Science Section last week that tells people to look for signs that an elderly relative who lives alone "needs to be moved to a more supportive environment." These danger signs include piles of unread magazines, poor personal hygiene, lack of social life, and other thinks that might count just as nerdiness if she were 30 instead of 70. It's dangerous to be old! Of course, it's also dangerous to be a child. You could be diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder" for disobeying your parents & teachers!! And on this forum, you could be diagnosed with NUD (Nimue Unappreciation Disorder) for nor scrolling down to the bottom of the page and asking questions about the new puzzle I am about to post.

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