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Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Friday, January 25, 2013 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I hurt my back quite badly in a fall just after Christmas. (Bottom three stairs, not ice or anything). Anyways, I found there is one cheap little item that was invaluable to me. We had several in the house already but never before had I realised its benefits. What is it?
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Did you have the item in your possession in the moment of the fall? Did it prevent a bigger misfortune (such as a bigger injury)? Is it made primarily of plastic? Metal? Rubber? Wood?Fabric? Is it used on a daily basis (say, like a tootbrush)? Relevant why you fell? (in the sense of lack of attention / hurry vs some defect in the stairway).

The cheap little item - an animal? (Had to ask :-)
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Did you have the item in your possession in the moment of the fall? no Did it prevent a bigger misfortune (such as a bigger injury)? no Is it made primarily of plastic? yes Metal? Rubber? Wood?Fabric? Is it used on a daily basis (say, like a tootbrush)? in some households, but not in ours Relevant why you fell? (in the sense of lack of attention / hurry vs some defect in the stairway). no - my husband says it was the tripwire....

The cheap little item - an animal? (Had to ask :-) nope
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Did you use the item to help ease the pain from the injury? Heal it faster?

Is the item typically found in a certain room?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Did you use the item to help ease the pain from the injury? no Heal it faster? no

Is the item typically found in a certain room? several rooms are more likely than others
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Were you incapacitated after the fall? Unable to move around as much as usual? Unable to work? Did the item help you accomplish some task which was more difficult due to your injury? Help keep you entertained?

Was it useful to you immediately after the fall (ie when you were lying on the floor)? For a short period after? Until your back healed? Until it healed a certain amount?

Did you go the hospital/doctors? Relevant? Is any treatment that you took relevant?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Were you incapacitated after the fall? yes Unable to move around as much as usual? yes Unable to work? irrel Did the item help you accomplish some task which was more difficult due to your injury? yes for svv of 'task' Help keep you entertained? no

Was it useful to you immediately after the fall (ie when you were lying on the floor)? no For a short period after? Until your back healed? Until it healed a certain amount? this is the most accurate

Did you go the hospital/doctors? yes Relevant? no Is any treatment that you took relevant? to a certain degree
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Were you forced to stay in a particular place? Eg you couldn't climb stairs? Were you unable to move in certain ways? Unable to bend? Unable to stand? Unable to sit normally? To lie normally? To walk long distances?

Did the object help you move? Help you obtain things you needed? Help you summon help when needed? Did you require help from your husband/family/friends due to your injury? Did the object make it easier to get this help? Allo you to rely less on this help?
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Were you forced to stay in a particular place? at times Eg you couldn't climb stairs? I did manage stairs slowly, but irrel Were you unable to move in certain ways? yes Unable to bend? sometimes Unable to stand? sometimes Unable to sit normally? sometimesTo lie normally? sometimes To walk long distances? no

Did the object help you move? no Help you obtain things you needed? yes for svv of 'things' Help you summon help when needed? no Did you require help from your husband/family/friends due to your injury? yes, but not in this case Did the object make it easier to get this help? exactly Allo you to rely less on this help? indeed
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Did the object help you to put your socks on?

Was It a coat hanger?
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Did the object help you to put your socks on? no

Was It a coat hanger? no
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Was it rubber bands or something such you put on your shoes to get traction? I''ve fallen with no way to communicate and have learned to keep my cell phone on a strap around my neck, anything such?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was it rubber bands or something such you put on your shoes to get traction? no I''ve fallen with no way to communicate and have learned to keep my cell phone on a strap around my neck, anything such? no, but sensible thinking!
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Oh, and welcome Deholmes! We haven't met. I'm a generally lapsed member...
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A remote control?
Lynne (Lynne)
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A remote control? no
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Is the object intended for a multitude of uses, like a rubber band or pot of glue? or does it have one specific/main, intended use?

Were you using the object for a purpose it was designed for?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Is the object intended for a multitude of uses, like a rubber band or pot of glue? or does it have one specific/main, intended use? this

Were you using the object for a purpose it was designed for? yes
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a magnet? a bell? something that could be used like a bell to summon people?
Lynne (Lynne)
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a magnet? a bell? something that could be used like a bell to summon people? no to all
Lynne (Lynne)
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RECAPITTY BAPPITTY WAPPITTY to kickstart the week

I hurt my back badly and couldn't move easily but this commonplace plastic item helped me obtain something without relying on others to help me. It didn't solve every problem but I found it a godsend for what I needed it for.

Just for the record I doubt if there is anyone reading this who has not used such an item at some point in their life.
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Good morning Lynne,

Is the item usually found in a particular room of a house? If i had to get one now would it be fairly easy to obtain? Is coping with pain relevant? Does the thing actually help you lift or grab something else that you need?

Does the item help you do something without having to stand up? has it a long reach?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Good morning Lynne, good morning!

Is the item usually found in a particular room of a house? yes If i had to get one now would it be fairly easy to obtain? if you don't have one in the house then they readily available, even free if you purchase a certain something Is coping with pain relevant? only in that it made it easier do something Does the thing actually help you lift or grab something else that you need? only in a very loose definition - could definitely mislead!

Does the item help you do something without having to stand up? OTRT but you don't normally stand to do this something has it a long reach? not very long
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Is the item part of the packaging of a product e.g. those rings that hold a 6 pack together?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Is the item part of the packaging e.g. those rings that hold a 6 pack together? no
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Is the item linked to technology ?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Is the item linked to technology ? not in the slightest
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When using this item were you sitting in a chair? lying in bed? Standing?

Did you, when your back was injured, use the item numerous times in one day? or just once? less frequent than that?

Same questions for before the accident?

It's not a plastic bag I take it? a cup? tupperware?
Lynne (Lynne)
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When using this item were you sitting in a chair? no lying in bed? yes Standing? no

Did you, when your back was injured, use the item numerous times in one day? yes or just once? less frequent than that?

Same questions for before the accident? although I had more than one of them I didn't use them and had to direct my family to where they were kept

It's not a plastic bag I take it? a cup? tupperware? no to all
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Is the item usually found in bedroom? In kitchen? In bathroom?
Did you use it in the room it is usually found?
Did it enable you to eat in bed? Drink in bed?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Is the item usually found in bedroom? In kitchen? this In bathroom?
Did you use it in the room it is usually found? no
Did it enable you to eat in bed? no Drink in bed? YES
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Can the item be used by everyone?
Does the item have a form of a bottle?
Is the item something the drink is in? If yes: is it dedicated to hot drinks? cold drinks?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Can the item be used by everyone? it's nicer to have one each if that's what you mean, but yes anybody could use it
Does the item have a form of a bottle? no
Is the item something the drink is in? no If yes: is it dedicated to hot drinks? cold drinks?
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I rather meant: Is it dedicated specifically for children? for women? for men?
Is it a straw?
Lynne (Lynne)
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I rather meant: Is it dedicated specifically for children? for women? for men? nowadays I think every age will use one in the right circumstances
Is it a straw? YES INDEED

I don't want to labour on too much but there is one aspect of the straw that made it particularly useful. Do you want to find that out, or I could just spiol
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Is it a bendy straw?

Were you using the straw to consume a liquid? from a glass? a bottle?

Were you incapable of drinking from the glass/bottle without the straw? or just not as easily?

Is it that a bendy straw enables you to drink easily whilst lying down?
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Is it a bendy straw? YES INDEEDY

Were you using the straw to consume a liquid? yes from a glass? this a bottle?

Were you incapable of drinking from the glass/bottle without the straw? or just not as easily? this one

Is it that a bendy straw enables you to drink easily whilst lying down? YES

Spoiler to follow
Lynne (Lynne)
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*********** SPOILER **********

When I hurt my back I managed to crawl to the settee and although I could eat OK, drinking meant sitting up which was impossible at the time. Later on I found that when I lay in bed on my back I couldn't just sit up and drink from my glass. In both cases I quickly found out that a bendy straw was perfect. I know that sports bottles could have been used, but they're still not ideal when flat on your back as the liquid can rush in your mouth and you end up coughing painfully.

In bed I could reach out for the glass, carefully put it between my arm and body at armpit level, bend the straw towards me, and drink at my own pace. Being dry mouthed was a problem, but a simple bendy straw (a packet of them had been in our kitchen drawer for years) meant that I had a degree of independence.

Thank you one and all, and especially Redwine and Liquizt for rounding it off.


Oh, and reading from a Kindle (I use the app on my phone as I like the backlight) is also easier than a cumbersome book when you are incapacitated.
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Nice one Lynne, I bought my good lady one of those Kindle covers with the light on it . She loves it but its always in the corner of my eye when we're reading in bed together. It gives off quite a glare.
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I had a Sony ereader with one of those bendy lights but I didn't like it much and gave it to a friend. I don't want a Kindle for that reason. With the app on the phone you can alter it to white text on a black background which gives off less glare in the dark. You can also dim and brighten the light. There's a choice of sepia background as well if black on white is too stark.

I've just finished knitting an afghan/blanket and am doing yards of simple stitch for the border. I use the Kindle program on my computer and can knit and read at the same time, just like when watching TV. Finally, what puts me off a Kindle is that I like a small bag when I'm out and about and it wouldn't fit in it. (I don't suppose you hear many women saying that!)
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I've always preferred regular books to Kindles; not completely sure why. But I can see how it would be an advantage when incapacitated.
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I agree wholeheartedly Balin. Call me a luddite but I still love the feel of a book in my hand.
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Ah, but I bet your wife is quietly buying new books while in her jimjams at midnight! I love the plethora of cheap and even free books that are available and being able to carry 350 books around with me at any one time. I still like regular books for non-fiction books especially if they're well-illustrated.

I liken my phone to a chatelaine - the sort that were like Swiss Army penknifes to the Victorian lady. I have my music, my books, my photos, my camera, my maps (interactive A-Z of London, follows you with GPS), my map of the night sky which is always up to date (GPS again), my pack of Patience cards, 50,000 radio stations, a torch, a magnifier, a teleidoscope, a calculator, a hearing aid, etc etc. Oh, and it's occasionally used as a phone.
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Does it have that thing for getting stones out of horses' hooves?
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You mean getting Boy Scouts out of horses' hooves? I'm sure somebody will be working on that.

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