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Some people got a scrund about India by misinterpreting some information. What was the scrund and how did they get it?
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Anything to do with the Age of Exploration?
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Something about:
Indian culture?
Food?
Language?
Geography?
Economy?
History?
India's relation to another country(countries)?

Do the "some people" share something relevant in common?
Where they live?
Nationality?
Language?
Religion?
Age?
Gender?
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Anything to do with the Age of Exploration? yope.

Something about:
Indian culture?
Food?
Language?
Geography?
Economy?
History? this.
India's relation to another country(countries)? thisish, too.

Do the "some people" share something relevant in common?
Where they live?
Nationality?
Language?
Religion?
Age?
Gender? no to all. They were all reading the same information, and got the same scrund, but nothing else about them is relevant.
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British Empire? Commonwealth of Nations vs. Commonwealth Realms?
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British Empire? yes, this is relevant, but the scrund was not about the British Empire. Commonwealth of Nations vs. Commonwealth Realms?
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British Empire? yes, this is relevant, but the scrund was not about the British Empire. Commonwealth of Nations vs. Commonwealth Realms? no.
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About something that happened while India was a British colony?
Military history?
Political history?

Particular century relevant?
Decade?
Specific date?
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About something that happened while India was a British colony? yope.
Military history? no.
Political history? no.

Particular century relevant? yes, very: the twentieth, and the twenty-first up to today.
Decade? no.
Specific date? no.
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BLOOPER

The year 1900 is actually quite relevant, although it could be replaced by any year in which India was entirely colonized.
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Does it have to do with how India became a British colony?
Was India actually a protectorate or something?
Does that matter?

Does it have to do with the end of Colonial rule?

Does the scrund have to do with the population of India vs. number of British there?
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Does it have to do with how India became a British colony? no. The people might not have even known that India was colonized, but the fact that it was colonized in 1900 is relevant.
Was India actually a protectorate or something? I don't know.
Does that matter? no, as long as it was basically part of the British Empire.

Does it have to do with the end of Colonial rule? indirectly, but don't focus on that?

Does the scrund have to do with the population of India vs. number of British there? not quite, but very OTRT.
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Anything to do with Eddie Izzard?

Anything to do with the expected ethnicity of someone born in India?

(For some reason I'm thinking of the whole "Is someone born in South Africa and who is white "African-American"?)
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Anything to do with Eddie Izzard? not at all.

Anything to do with the expected ethnicity of someone born in India? no.

(For some reason I'm thinking of the whole "Is someone born in South Africa and who is white "African-American"?) this is irrelevant.
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HINT: The people either misread the information or did not know about India being British-ruled. The makeup of India's population is irrelevant.
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Is it relevant where the information is found?
If I had this scrund, would I have a misunderstanding about Indian laws? Indian politics? Indian justice? Indian social mores? Indian languages?
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Is it relevant where the information is found? not where it was found, but what form the information was in. Explore.
If I had this scrund, would I have a misunderstanding about Indian laws? Indian politics? Indian justice? Indian social mores? Indian languages? none of the above, but good question. Thank you for the first questions in a while.
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"Form" as in book? memo? newspaper? magazine? TV show? blog? forum? other internet source?
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"Form" as in book? memo? newspaper? magazine? TV show? blog? forum? other internet source? this, but irrelevant.
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Does the scrund have to do with the fact that the word "India" was mistakenly applied to the Americas? In that vein, does it have to do with the "West Indies"? Does it have to do with "American Indians"?

On a completely different track... Does it involve Language? English? Hindi? Does it have to do with the fact that there are many languages spoken in India? Does it have to do with the fact (and/or scrund) that some Indians may not be able to communicate due to a language barrier?
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Does the scrund have to do with the fact that the word "India" was mistakenly applied to the Americas? In that vein, does it have to do with the "West Indies"? Does it have to do with "American Indians"? no to all.

On a completely different track... Does it involve Language? English? Hindi? Does it have to do with the fact that there are many languages spoken in India? Does it have to do with the fact (and/or scrund) that some Indians may not be able to communicate due to a language barrier? no to all.

HINT: The person probably had a similar scrund about Indonesia.
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was the information in map form? photos?
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was the information in map form? photos? no to both.
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DNS suffixes relevant?
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is the language the information was in relevant?
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DNS suffixes relevant? no.

is the language the information was in relevant? no.

The fact that India and Indonesia have similar names is irrelevant, but two other things they have in common are.
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HINT: Find out more about the information that they misunderstood.
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Does the information relate to:
- history?
- politics?
- population?
- culture?
- sports?
- food?
- language?
- education?
- geography?
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Does the information relate to:
- history? this.
- politics? thisish.
- population? this.
- culture?
- sports?
- food?
- language?
- education?
- geography? and this. no to rest.
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Was the information given in an ambiguous way? was it an article? a map? a chart? a book? a quote?
Did it contain factual errors? typos?
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Was the information given in an ambiguous way? no, but they failed to understand all the information. was it an article? a map? a chart? this is closest. a book? a quote?
Did it contain factual errors? typos? neither. It was accurate.
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Does the information relate to:
Water shortages?
Nuclear?
Kashmir?
Bangladesh?
Pakistan?
Nepal?
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Is the scrund that the British were the first Europeans who colonized India? (in fact it were the Portuguese)
Religion relevant? Would one conclude from the information that the majority of Christians in India is Protestant (because of the British rule)? (while in fact the majority is Catholic?)
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Water shortages? no.
Nuclear? no.
Kashmir? no.
Bangladesh? no, but it could apply to this too.
Pakistan? no, but it could apply to this too.
Nepal? no.
Is the scrund that the British were the first Europeans who colonized India? (in fact it were the Portuguese) no.
Religion relevant? no. Would one conclude from the information that the majority of Christians in India is Protestant (because of the British rule)? (while in fact the majority is Catholic?) no.
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Statistics relevant? Relevant when they got the scrund? If so: last millennium?
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Statistics relevant? yes. Relevant when they got the scrund? after Indian independence. If so: last millennium? assume present day.
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Ancestry relevant? People living there during colonization relevant? People of
British ancestry living there now relevant?
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Ancestry relevant? no. People living there during colonization relevant? yes. People of
British ancestry living there now relevant? no, just people in general. Various categories of people such as ancestry and religion are irrelevant.
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People living there now relevant? Does the statistic show something changing over time? Does it show people: immigrating? Emigrating? Does it show something changing when independence was gained? If so, did the people get the scrund because they didn't know that independence was gained at that point?
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People living there now relevant?
yes. Does the statistic show something changing over time? yope. Does it show people: immigrating? yope. Emigrating? yope. Does it show something changing when independence was gained? yope. If so, did the people get the scrund because they didn't know that independence was gained at that point? yes. These are good questions!
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may I request a recap?
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Does the statistic show something happening at the moment of independence? A change in demographics? Because they didn't know about the independence, did they think something else dramatic happened? Or were they unable to figure out what happened? Or did they think the statistics were wrong?
A recap would indeed be nice.
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may I request a recap? yes. See below.

Does the statistic show something happening at the moment of independence? yope. A change in demographics? yope. Because they didn't know about the independence, did they think something else dramatic happened? yes. Or were they unable to figure out what happened? They just judged correctly. Or did they think the statistics were wrong? no.

A recap would indeed be nice.

******************RECAP********************

Some people looked at a piece of information and developed a scrund about India. The scrund relates to India's history and population. The colonization of India is relevant, but the people may not have realized that India was ever colonized. The scrund was that some other dramatic event must happened.

You're extremely close, I think.
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Some people: Currently alive? Dead? If dead, alive during the: 21st century? 20th? 19th?
"Some other dramatic event": a natural disaster? a war? something else?
they don't think India exploded to create Indonesia, I hope...o.o
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Were they looking at a population timeline? Was there a period of time for which there was no data? or data was collected using another method? Is there a sharp increase or decrease in the population figure?
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Some people: Currently alive? this, or at least alive a few months ago. Dead? If dead, alive during the: 21st century? 20th? 19th?
"Some other dramatic event": a natural disaster? a war? something else? this.
they don't think India exploded to create Indonesia, I hope...o.o no.

The dramatic event could be described more accurately as an effect than a cause. They might have deduced that a similar event occurred in Indonesia during the twentieth century.
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Does the scrund arise from two different dating systems
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Was the dramatic event seismic?
Was it a volcanic act?
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I think you missed my Qs Hominid when you were last on : )
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Were they looking at a population timeline? no, but OTRT. Was there a period of time for which there was no data? yes. or data was collected using another method? no. Is there a sharp increase or decrease in the population figure? yope.

Does the scrund arise from two different dating systems no.

Was the dramatic event seismic? no.
Was it a volcanic act? no.
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was it a timeline? are humans the units of the chart series? births? deaths? immigration rates? was it to display x per y people e.g. GDP per inhabitant or hospitals per 10,000 people. is nationality, ethnic origin or religion relevant here?

the scrund is that the section of missing data was interpreted as being correct data, is that right?
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was it a timeline? no. are humans the units of the chart series? yes. births? deaths? immigration rates? no to these. was it to display x per y people e.g. GDP per inhabitant or hospitals per 10,000 people. no. is nationality, ethnic origin or religion relevant here? not really.

the scrund is that the section of missing data was interpreted as being correct data, is that right? explain.
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relevant that India has the second highest population in the world?
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was a section of the population omitted? like the untouchables?
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Hominid
I've put this puzzle into Limbo for now . You can reactivate it by answering the outstanding questions.

Hope you're back with us soon
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relevant that India has the second highest population in the world? not specifically, but relevant that it's one of the most populous in the world.

was a section of the population omitted? like the untouchables? no, but OTRT.

Sorry about waiting so long to respond.
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Did the chart show the population of India? of some part of India?
Did it show the number of people with a particular property? the number of people who did something? or have something?
Were the missing data reported in the chart as zero? so that somebody from looking at the chart would guess that during a period of time nobody did ...? which, if it was true, would indeed have been dramatic for the country?
Would it help to establish the time period for which data were missing? was it before 1900? after 1900?
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Did the chart show the population of India? yope. of some part of India? noish.
Did it show the number of people with a particular property? no. the number of people who did something? DOYD of did. or have something? no.
Were the missing data reported in the chart as zero? no. so that somebody from looking at the chart would guess that during a period of time nobody did ...? no. which, if it was true, would indeed have been dramatic for the country? no.
Would it help to establish the time period for which data were missing? was it before 1900? after 1900? The relevant year is 1900, but you have a FA.
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Okay - in 1900, India was part of the British Empire. Indonesia, as the "Dutch East Indies", was ruled by...well, the Dutch. Is this at all relevant?
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the number of people being born? dying?
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Okay - in 1900, India was part of the British Empire. Indonesia, as the "Dutch East Indies", was ruled by...well, the Dutch. Is this at all relevant? only the India part is relevant to this puzzle, but the same people might develop a similar scrund about Indonesia, and for that, the Dutch colonization is relevant.

the number of people being born? primarily this. dying? not this at all.
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were they only counting people of a certain caste? only boys?
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were they only counting people of a certain caste? only boys? no to all. And by the way, the scrund is about the number of people being born; the data itself was about population.
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did the population data give the impression that more people were being born than was the case? or less?

did it not take into account emigration? immigration? deaths?
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did the population data give the impression that more people were being born than was the case? this. or less?

did it not take into account emigration? immigration? deaths? Hard to answer. You have an FA.
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Did the data give the impression that there were more emigrating people? More immigrating people? Fewer deaths?
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Did the data give the impression that there were more emigrating people? More immigrating people? partly this. Fewer deaths? and partly this. But another thing primarily.
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Is the scrund regarding a sharp decrease in British contribution to the total Indian Population?
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Is the scrund regarding a sharp decrease in British contribution to the total Indian Population? no.
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Is the population of Indian natives relevant?


Is the scrund formed due to something at the EXACT moment of Independence? (i.e. any change due to the virtue of independence)

To the Partition of Pakistan and India?

Do they think Population is increasing way too much?
Decreasing way too much?
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Is the population of Indian natives relevant? no.


Is the scrund formed due to something at the EXACT moment of Independence? (i.e. any change due to the virtue of independence) more the moment of independence itself.

To the Partition of Pakistan and India? this is not relevant.

Do they think Population is increasing way too much? not "too much" in a moral sense, but more than it actually is.
Decreasing way too much?
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Were some people counted in the new stats who weren't counted before the independence? Relevant who assembled the stats? Or how they were assembled? Were any of the stats actually wrong?
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Were some people counted in the new stats who weren't counted before the independence? no, they were just counted differently. Relevant who assembled the stats? no. Or how they were assembled? define "assembled." Were any of the stats actually wrong? no.
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Was the fact that they were counted differently, the cause of the confusion? Did the people who made the misinterpretation not know about the different counting method? Were some people counted as children when they weren't before? If not, is this line of thought OTRT?
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Was the fact that they were counted differently, the cause of the confusion? yes. Did the people who made the misinterpretation not know about the different counting method? yes. Were some people counted as children when they weren't before? Age is irrelevant, although I suppose people aged between 1900 and today. If not, is this line of thought OTRT? yes.
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Were all people counted in a different way? Or was only a specific group of people counted in a different way than before? Were two earlier groups combined into one? Or was one group split into more than one? Geographic location relevant? Borders?
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Were all people counted in a different way? the two sources were 1900 and today, so the "people" being counted were different. Or was only a specific group of people counted in a different way than before? Were two earlier groups combined into one? Or was one group split into more than one? One category from 1900 was split into more than one today. Geographic location relevant? yes. Borders? yope.
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Ethnicity relevant? Religion? Immigration? Emigration? Pregnancy?
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Ethnicity relevant? Religion? Immigration? Emigration? Pregnancy?

none of the above.
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Birthplace relevant? Place of living? Was a geographical area counted as one before but split now?
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Anything to do with citizenship? Dual citizenship?
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Birthplace relevant? no. Place of living? yes. Was a geographical area counted as one before but split now? YES!

Anything to do with citizenship? no. Dual citizenship? no.
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Recap?
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British Empire relevant? Colonies? *Any* empires, current or former?
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Is the disputed Khasmir region relevant?
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Recap?

************RECAP*************

Some people got a scrund about the population of India by looking at some information about the year 1900. Something changed between then and now, and what was then counted as one place is now counted as two. The British colonization of India is relevant.


British Empire relevant? Colonies? *Any* empires, current or former? Just the British.

Is the disputed Khasmir region relevant? no.
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Pakistan relevant? Bangladesh?
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Pakistan relevant? Bangladesh? I guess someone could also develop the same scrund about them, but they're not really relevant.
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The Punjab region ? It was divided between Pakistan and India in the 40s. Was it previously counted as being entirely Indian?
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Does it have to do that when India gained independence, it lost some land, and therefore population?
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The Punjab region ? It was divided between Pakistan and India in the 40s. Was it previously counted as being entirely Indian? The boundary between Pakistan and India is not really relevant.

Does it have to do that when India gained independence, it lost some land, and therefore population? no.
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Did the info have to do with British population numbers ? Changes over centuries ? Percentage growth in the last century ?

The number of British citizens would be smaller in 2000 than in 1900, so one may interpret that the population of Britain has decreased. Something on these lines ?
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Did the people with the scrund think the population was lower in 1900 than it actually was?
Or higher in 1900 than it actually was?
Or a mixture of the two somehow?
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Factorials relevant?
Couldn't resist!
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Hi Hominid, you've no doubt been a victim of the system purge of members login details. You can open a new account in the same name but unfortunately your post count reverts to zero. See the chatroom for lots of discussion on the matter.

In the meantime (until you make it back this way) i'm moving your puzzle into Limbo. Actually this puzzle must set some sort of a record for the longest running without a spoyler. You could justify declaring victory and posting the solution. In any case I hope you get back to us soon.

Peter
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Thanks, Peter!

Did the info have to do with British population numbers ? no, but VERY close. Changes over centuries ? Percentage growth in the last century ? {percentage vs. actual number is irrelevant.}

The number of British citizens would be smaller in 2000 than in 1900, so one may interpret that the population of Britain has decreased. Something on these lines ? along these lines, but not quite.
Did the people with the scrund think the population was lower in 1900 than it actually was? The population of India? Yes.
Or higher in 1900 than it actually was?
Or a mixture of the two somehow?

Factorials relevant?
Couldn't resist! No. Sorry.

I'm not going to post a $poiler quite yet because everyone is very close!
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The geographic area that was considered one, but is now split: was in entirely within modern India? Was in partly in modern India? Is it no longer part of India? Was it a city? A state?

Relevant that many states and cities changed their names or sizes after independence? Bombay/Mumbai relevant? Delhi/New Delhi relevant?
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The geographic area that was considered one, but is now split: was in entirely within modern India? no. Was in partly in modern India? yes. Is it no longer part of India? it no longer exists, but its territory is partly in modern India. Was it a city? no. A state? DOYD of state.

Relevant that many states and cities changed their names or sizes after independence? Bombay/Mumbai relevant? Delhi/New Delhi relevant? no to all.
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I'll make my hunch explicit: Are the Indian princely states relevant?

The "geographic area" that today is partly modern India: Was it also partly in modern Pakistan? In modern Bangladesh? In modern Sri Lanka? Modern Bhutan? Former Tibet? Modern Nepal? More than one of these?
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I'll make my hunch explicit: Are the Indian princely states relevant? no.

The "geographic area" that today is partly modern India: Was it also partly in modern Pakistan? yes. In modern Bangladesh? yes. In modern Sri Lanka? yes. Modern Bhutan? yes. Former Tibet? yes. Modern Nepal? maybe. More than one of these? a lot more than these places.
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Is the geographic area that today is part of modern India the British Empire itself? Was it some subset of the British Empire?

Did the British once use the term "India" as a catch-all to describe all their South Asian territory?
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Is the geographic area that today is part of modern India the British Empire itself? yes. Was it some subset of the British Empire?

Did the British once use the term "India" as a catch-all to describe all their South Asian territory? I believe so but that's irrelevant.
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Is there a post by Wefigure here that I'm not seeing, or was it deleted?
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Hominid

Wefigure posted a new puzzle statement onto this puzzle by mistake. I deleted it but obviously the last poster info did not change.
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Hominid

Wefigure posted a new puzzle statement onto this puzzle by mistake. I deleted it but obviously the last poster info did not change.

Thank you!
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No problem Hominid.

I've pretty much exhausted my theories on this one but I was wondering if the Commonwealth is relevant? Some ex colonies are members of the commonwealth while others formerly under British rule are not.. my own country is a good example of one that isn't.
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No problem Hominid.

I've pretty much exhausted my theories on this one but I was wondering if the Commonwealth is relevant? Some ex colonies are members of the commonwealth while others formerly under British rule are not.. my own country is a good example of one that isn't. no, the Commonwealth is not relevant.
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Anything to do with Kashmir?
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Anything to do with Kashmir? nope.
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Anything to do with the Punjab/Sikh Khalsa? The term "The Raj"?

Would it help to figure out what the Dutch East Indies and the Raj had in common? The only thing I can think of offhand is that they were both invaded by Japan during WWII.
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Did the population figure give only the number of British citizens in the British Empire? while the actual population, in fact, was much higher?
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Did the demographics prior to independency count something else instead of number of people? Number of families? households? employees? men? women? adults?

WAG: Is it relevant that Indians give large numbers in lakh and crore rather than millions?
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Anything to do with the Punjab/Sikh Khalsa? The term "The Raj"? no to both.

Would it help to figure out what the Dutch East Indies and the Raj had in common? yes. The only thing I can think of offhand is that they were both invaded by Japan during WWII. It's a lot simpler than that.

Did the population figure give only the number of British citizens in the British Empire? while the actual population, in fact, was much higher? no, but you're kind of on the right track, almost.

Did the demographics prior to independency count something else instead of number of people? Number of families? households? employees? men? women? adults? it counted number of people.


WAG: Is it relevant that Indians give large numbers in lakh and crore rather than millions? not at all.
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What the Dutch East Indies and the Raj had in common --

- That they were both in SE Asia? That they both border the Indian ocean? That they're both (mostly) tropical? Something else geographic in nature?
- That they were both European colonies? Possessions? Fought wars in the area? Ruled through local leaders? Claimed at some point to own parts of each other's possessions?
- That they were owned by maritime powers?
- That both gained independence in the 1940s?
- That they had substantial European populations? Part-European populations? Who were born in the colony rather than their home country (like Anglo-Indians)?
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Could someone get the same scrund about Indonesia?
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What the Dutch East Indies and the Raj had in common --

- That they were both in SE Asia? That they both border the Indian ocean? That they're both (mostly) tropical? Something else geographic in nature?
- That they were both European colonies? this is very relevant. Possessions? Fought wars in the area? Ruled through local leaders? Claimed at some point to own parts of each other's possessions?
- That they were owned by maritime powers?
- That both gained independence in the 1940s? this is also relevant, but it could be any time in the 20th century.
- That they had substantial European populations? Part-European populations? Who were born in the colony rather than their home country (like Anglo-Indians)?

Could someone get the same scrund about Indonesia? yes.
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Was there a relevant change in the information, or how it was collected, after independence? Anything to do with the fact that they were not monolithic countries before independence, but split into princely states? Bureaucracy or civil service relevant?
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Was there a relevant change in the information, or how it was collected, after independence? not how it was collected, but close. Anything to do with the fact that they were not monolithic countries before independence, but split into princely states? Bureaucracy or civil service relevant? no to all.
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Were new or different statistics taken? Were they measured differently? For example, was the age of adulthood changed? Were different languages used (native rather than Dutch or English, for example)?
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Were new or different statistics taken? Were they measured differently? yes to both. For example, was the age of adulthood changed? Were different languages used (native rather than Dutch or English, for example)? no.

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