| Author | Message | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 21 Registered: 10-2012 |
Bob should never have got it....but time was on his side | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2012 |
Did Bob outlive the others? Was there eestate or a will involved. Was it a familyy heirloom? any such? | ||
| Rogerchang (Rogerchang)
New member Username: Rogerchang Post Number: 116 Registered: 9-2012 |
transplant list relevant? One of his organs is crashing? slowly? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2012 |
Did Bob outlive the others?No Was there eestate or a will involved.No-ish Was it a familyy heirloom?No-ish any such?I'm sorry,I don't understand what this bit means | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 23 Registered: 10-2012 |
transplant list relevant?No One of his organs is crashing?No slowly?Not at any speed | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1978 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is Bob's family relevant? Is 'it' an object? Something valuable? A title? A position? Something abstract? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 24 Registered: 10-2012 |
Is Bob's family relevant?Yes Is 'it' an object?Yes Something valuable?Yes A title?Yes A position?Yes Something abstract?Not really | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1980 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is Bob's family royal? Aristocratic? Did he become king? A lord, earl or similar? Was Bob the youngest? Should the title have gone to one of his siblings? To another relative? Did Bob have to wait a long time for it? Did something happen to whoever should have got it? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2012 |
Is Bob's family royal?No Aristocratic?Yes Did he become king?No A lord, earl or similar?Yes-whichever it was is irrelevant Was Bob the youngest?No Should the title have gone to one of his siblings?Yes To another relative?No Did Bob have to wait a long time for it?No Did something happen to whoever should have got it?No | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1982 Registered: 4-2007 |
Should it have gone to an older sibling? Is Bob male? By 'time was on his side' do you mean on Bob's side? Is it relevant that titles tend to pass only to male heirs? Did the person who should have got the title turn it down? DId they have it but then pass it on to Bob? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 26 Registered: 10-2012 |
Should it have gone to an older sibling?Yea Is Bob male?Yes By 'time was on his side' do you mean on Bob's side?Yes Is it relevant that titles tend to pass only to male heirs?No Did the person who should have got the title turn it down?No DId they have it but then pass it on to Bob?No | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2002 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was there a change in the rules regarding who would inherit the title? Did somebody decide to give the title to Bob instead of his older sibling? Did the older sibling want the title? | ||
| Deholmes (Deholmes)
New member Username: Deholmes Post Number: 160 Registered: 11-2012 |
Is this a historical event? Would it be easier to solve if we called him Robert instead of Bob? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1692 Registered: 1-2011 |
Was something revealed about the older sibling which caused he could't obtain the title? Is marriage relevant? Citizenship relevant? Were there any conditions of inheriting the title, besides being the oldest? Did Bob inherit the same title that belonged to his ancestors? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 27 Registered: 10-2012 |
Was there a change in the rules regarding who would inherit the title? No Did somebody decide to give the title to Bob instead of his older sibling? Yope Did the older sibling want the title? Yes Is this a historical event? Yes-in the sense of not modern,it is not a factual story Would it be easier to solve if we called him Robert instead of Bob? No-you can call him Sid,Stan or Ethel if you please Was something revealed about the older sibling which caused he could't obtain the title? No Is marriage relevant? No Citizenship relevant? No Were there any conditions of inheriting the title, besides being the oldest? Yes-ish Did Bob inherit the same title that belonged to his ancestors? Yes | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1716 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Bob obtain the title legally? Is marriage relevant? Did Bob benefit from someone's mistake to obtain the title? Is it a biblical story? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 445 Registered: 7-2011 |
Whew. "Earl Bob" was hard to stomach... Is this a matter of an entailed estate, as in "Pride and Prejudice"? Is it a matter of one of the siblings had traveled, or accomplished something, and thereby gained or lost? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 30 Registered: 10-2012 |
Did Bob obtain the title legally?Yes Is marriage relevant?No Did Bob benefit from someone's mistake to obtain the title?No Is it a biblical story?No | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 31 Registered: 10-2012 |
Whew. "Earl Bob" was hard to stomach... And Earl Ethel sounds so much better... Is this a matter of an entailed estate, as in "Pride and Prejudice"?Yikes-what's one of them...quick Google...No Is it a matter of one of the siblings had traveled, or accomplished something, and thereby gained or lost?No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5179 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the other sibling make a mistake? Get sick? Die? Get old? Children relevant? Did the sibling still want the title, when it was given to Bob? Relevant who gave the title? Or how? Or where? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 40 Registered: 10-2012 |
Did the other sibling make a mistake?No Get sick?No Die?No Get old?No Children relevant?No Did the sibling still want the title, when it was given to Bob?Yes Relevant who gave the title?No Or how?No Or where?No Incidentally,there seems to be a bug here.I've posted this answer three times without it appearing | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 2287 Registered: 4-2007 |
By 'time was on his side', do you mean that he had to wait a long time to get it? That a certain amount of time passed, after which he could have the title and his older sibling couldn't? That he was able to wait longer than his sibling? Relevant how old Bob was when he got the title? How old his sibling was? Are any other siblings relevant? Any other relatives? Did Bob get the title when his father died? Was the sibling somehow missing when the title was given to Bob? Did the sibling protest Bob getting the title? Were they given something else instead of the title? Would the title-holder have to live somewhere relevant? Do something relevant? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2012 |
By 'time was on his side', do you mean that he had to wait a long time to get it?No That a certain amount of time passed, after which he could have the title and his older sibling couldn't?No That he was able to wait longer than his sibling?No Relevant how old Bob was when he got the title?No How old his sibling was?No Are any other siblings relevant?Yes Any other relatives?No Did Bob get the title when his father died?No Was the sibling somehow missing when the title was given to Bob?No Did the sibling protest Bob getting the title?Yes,but irrelevant Were they given something else instead of the title?Irrelevant Would the title-holder have to live somewhere relevant?No Do something relevant?Yesish | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1911 Registered: 1-2011 |
Would the title-holder have to do something during a definite period of time? Do something in certain time after something else had happened? Do something in certain time before something else happened? Is an estate connected with the title? Is that relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3840 Registered: 2-2011 |
did Bob succeed because his brother had become too old? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 45 Registered: 10-2012 |
Would the title-holder have to do something during a definite period of time?No Do something in certain time after something else had happened?No Do something in certain time before something else happened?No Is an estate connected with the title?No Is that relevant?No | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2012 |
did Bob succeed because his brother had become too old?No | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3848 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he succeed because during the time which passed things had changed a lot? had there been a war? a revolution? an abdication? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2012 |
did he succeed because during the time which passed things had changed a lot?Yope-'things had changed a lot' is a very broad category had there been a war?No a revolution?No an abdication?No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5277 Registered: 9-2009 |
Had a relevant person changed? Or been replaced? Had a law changed? A rule? A custom? Did his brother change in any relevant way? Did he himself change in any relevant way? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2012 |
Had a relevant person changed?No Or been replaced?No Had a law changed?No A rule?No A custom?No Did his brother change in any relevant way?No Did he himself change in any relevant way?No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5400 Registered: 9-2009 |
Changed: wars? Borders? Demographics? Other siblings relevant: one? More? Older? Younger? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 53 Registered: 10-2012 |
Changed: wars?No Borders?No Demographics?No Other siblings relevant: one?Yes More?Yes Older?Yes Younger?No Hint:Concentrate on the siblings and why they couldn't get the title rather than what had changed | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 1991 Registered: 1-2011 |
Could the siblings not get the title because of: age? gender? marital status? family status? religion? place of living? profession? financial status? education? | ||
| Hardcore (Hardcore)
New member Username: Hardcore Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2013 |
Was bob very young? If so, I am going to guess that bob got a title to be an earl or something. but bob is a kid and isn't well educated and his older sibling is more educated and should of gotten the title, but the will or document from the deceased said the youngest person should get the title. | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 56 Registered: 10-2012 |
Could the siblings not get the title because of: age?Yope gender?No marital status?No family status?No religion?No place of living?No profession?No financial status?No education?No | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 57 Registered: 10-2012 |
Was bob very young?No If so, I am going to guess that bob got a title to be an earl or something. but bob is a kid and isn't well educated and his older sibling is more educated and should of gotten the title, but the will or document from the deceased said the youngest person should get the title.No,but the wording of the document is important... | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5926 Registered: 9-2010 |
ultimogeniture relevant? | ||
| Solo1 (Solo1)
New member Username: Solo1 Post Number: 515 Registered: 5-2012 |
Is legitimacy relevant? Are we talking about a royal family (real or fictional)? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 59 Registered: 10-2012 |
ultimogeniture relevant?Goes and checks big word-no Is legitimacy relevant?No Are we talking about a royal family (real or fictional)?No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2090 Registered: 1-2011 |
Were siblings alive when Bob got the title? Did the author of the document wanted Bob to inherit the title? Was his will different but just badly worded? Could you please recap? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5937 Registered: 9-2010 |
"goes and checks big word" - ooh, yay, I love it when people have to learn big words because of me ^_^ or, conversely, when I get to learn big words because of other people. Learning in general makes me happy. For the people who did not look it up but may possibly be interested - ultimogeniture is the opposite of primogeniture. In other words, rather than the firstborn son (or firstborn child) being the heir and inheriting everything (or inheriting most things), the lastborn son (or child) inherits. This system is *much* less commonly known, but is done with the idea that the elder sons/children are old enough to go out and make their own lives, and the youngest will probably be still at home anyway, so is in the best position to keep the hearth and home. | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 573 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are twins, timezones, Summer time, or calendar changes relevant? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2012 |
Were siblings alive when Bob got the title?Yes Did the author of the document wanted Bob to inherit the title?Impossible to say-but it was supposed to go to the elder sibling Was his will different but just badly worded?Yope Could you please recap?OK-quickly,Bob's siblings were supposed to get the title,but for some reason could not.They are all alive,fit in body and limb and ready and willing to claim the title | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2012 |
Are twins, timezones, Summer time, or calendar changes relevant?No,no,no,yes "goes and checks big word" - ooh, yay, I love it when people have to learn big words because of me ^_^ or, conversely, when I get to learn big words because of other people. Learning in general makes me happy So nice to have a conversation that doesn't 3nd up wri7n lik thz lol or that revolves around the X Factor or 'celebrities'.You are indeed a bibelot. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 5951 Registered: 9-2010 |
Calendar changes? *pounces on the yes* Julian/Gregorian switch and loss of days relevant? Mayan calendar? BC to AD? Chinese calendar or similar? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 63 Registered: 10-2012 |
Calendar changes? *pounces on the yes* Julian/Gregorian switch and loss of days relevant?Yes Mayan calendar?No BC to AD?No Chinese calendar or similar?No | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 584 Registered: 4-2007 |
Are | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 64 Registered: 10-2012 |
Are Bob Ethel and his relatives human?Yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3964 Registered: 2-2011 |
was Bob born during the missing days? before? after? was the true heir born during the missing days? before? after? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 65 Registered: 10-2012 |
was Bob born during the missing days?no before?no after?yes was the true heir born during the missing days?Yes before?no after?no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3966 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the true heir assigned a different birthdate? which made him younger on paper than Bob? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2012 |
was the true heir assigned a different birthdate?no which made him younger on paper than Bob?no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3973 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the true heir deemed not to have been born at all? or deemed to be younger than Bob? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2173 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the author of the will appoint the heir using a certain date? Describe the heir as "the oldest"? Describe the heir as "born first"? Was Bob the younger twin, born just after midnight of the last missing day and his sibling the older twin born just before midnight of the last missing day? Was the author of the will aware of the calendar change? Of the fact that it changed inheritance order? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 68 Registered: 10-2012 |
was the true heir deemed not to have been born at all?No or deemed to be younger than Bob?No Did the author of the will appoint the heir using a certain date?Yes Describe the heir as "the oldest"?No Describe the heir as "born first"?No Was Bob the younger twin, born just after midnight of the last missing day and his sibling the older twin born just before midnight of the last missing day? NoWas the author of the will aware of the calendar change?No Of the fact that it changed inheritance order?No | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 2210 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did the author of the will appoint the heir like: "my son born on XX.YY.ZZZZ" - which was sibling's birthday before calendar change and Bob's birthday after calendar change? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2012 |
Did the author of the will appoint the heir like: "my son born on XX.YY.ZZZZ" - which was sibling's birthday before calendar change and Bob's birthday after calendar change?No... but you're heading the right way | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 3977 Registered: 2-2011 |
or " the first son born after xx.yy.zzzz"? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 74 Registered: 10-2012 |
or " the first son born after xx.yy.zzzz"?No | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 5670 Registered: 9-2009 |
Relevant how the date was formatted? Is a misunderstanding of which numbers were days, months and/or years relevant? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 76 Registered: 10-2012 |
Relevant how the date was formatted?No Is a misunderstanding of which numbers were days, months and/or years relevant?No | ||
| Senorita_illuminata (Senorita_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorita_illuminata Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2013 |
The elder sibling(s), were born on the 'missing ' days eg Feb 29th in different years eg, first sibling born 29th Feb 1880, second sibling born 29th Feb 1881, but the sibling that ended up heir had a birth-date that was fixed in the calendar? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 77 Registered: 10-2012 |
I'll try and break this down a bit.... The elder sibling(s), were born on the 'missing ' days Yes eg Feb 29th in different years eg, first sibling born 29th Feb 1880, second sibling born 29th Feb 1881, One-and only one-sibling was born on Feb 29.It hasn't been important until now-but there are three older siblings. but the sibling that ended up heir had a birth-date that was fixed in the calendar?Yes | ||
| Senorita_illuminata (Senorita_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorita_illuminata Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2013 |
so..the one sibling born on the 29th was not the true heir? The fact that there are three elder siblings, is that relevant because of their birth-dates also? Are their birth-dates all the same(excepting the sibling on the 29th Feb? is it relevant how many years separated the elder siblings and the true heir? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2012 |
so..the one sibling born on the 29th was not the true heir?No The fact that there are three elder siblings, is that relevant because of their birth-dates also?YesAre their birth-dates all the same(excepting the sibling on the 29th Feb?No is it relevant how many years separated the elder siblings and the true heir?No | ||
| Senorita_illuminata (Senorita_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorita_illuminata Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2013 |
are the other siblings born in the same year? triplets, twins and a premature birth or similar? | ||
| Ginevra (Ginevra)
New member Username: Ginevra Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2012 |
are the other siblings born in the same year?Notriplets, twins and a premature birth or similar?No | ||
| Chanman876 (Chanman876)
New member Username: Chanman876 Post Number: 5 Registered: 6-2013 |
Was a day such as the 29th added, taken away, etc.? Was the date confused? |
