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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4604
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 10:44 am: |       |
Good morning all.
As you can see I've archived the chatroom and also tidied up the active puzzles section.
Feel free to post something amazing to get the chat going again. |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3526
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 3:00 pm: | |
Something amazing? I'm back on the LTPF. Is that amazing enough? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4606
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 3:09 pm: | |
That's pretty darn amazing. Nice to see you back this way. How've you been? |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Username: Doriana
Post Number: 3531
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 4:33 pm: | |
I've been pretty busy lately with work and university, but apart from that, all is fine here. How have you guys been?
I answered all question on my two old puzzles and I just posted a new one. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 6054
Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 9:40 pm: | |
*hugz Doriana* teh Amazin Doriana Kitteh iz bak! =) yayz! |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
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Username: Kyeannpepper
Post Number: 1231
Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 9:57 pm: | |
Thanks to both Kaylee and Doriana for their posts on my LatVenture and neologism, respectively! I should be on for a few more hours, so more directions/questions would be greatly appreciated! |
Hardcore (Hardcore)
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Username: Hardcore
Post Number: 38
Registered: 2-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 7:26 am: | |
Hey everyone. I have a Lateral Detective Mystery thread called "You are the detective" and I just wanted to ask people what their thoughts or comments are on about it. This is my first BIG mystery thread and since I'm 12, I wanted to know if i should give any improvements to it. Just want to see if it is any good. |
Hardcore (Hardcore)
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Username: Hardcore
Post Number: 39
Registered: 2-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 7:34 am: | |
Hey everyone. I made this lateral mystery thread called "Your the detective" and I just wanted some feed back on if it is good or bad or needs improvement. I'm just worried that since I'm 12, it is a little corny or something like that. Thanks. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Username: Nimue
Post Number: 9037
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2013 - 6:40 pm: | |
Thanks for the latest round of questions on two new puzzles, which I've answered. But please don't neglect my long-running "Surprise in America." I'll be online for at least four hours and am soooooooooo eager to answer more questions!! |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 6072
Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 9:48 pm: | |
Hardcore,
I think it's interesting. Mysteries are always good. I know I haven't been around much, but when I think of something to post on it, I will.
Kaylee
(aka Kaylee Kitteh to some =) ) |
Balin (Balin)
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Username: Balin
Post Number: 18488
Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 08, 2013 - 10:26 pm: | |
Hardcore: I'm enjoying the mystery. It's a different format than most, and an enjoyable one. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4618
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 3:35 pm: | |
Hardcore, nice to see you're getting some positive feedback on your detective mystery.
I'm trying to think of a non patronising way to express my surprise that you are only 12 years old.
Sorry can't think of anything so 'Wow I would never have guessed that you were 12'.
We used to have a very active member here called Crazypalpig who was also 12 and he more than held his own when it came to solving and setting puzzles so it's good to see that you're keeping that up.
As someone who is a mere 30 years older than you I wish you a hearty welcome to lateral land and hope you're enjoying your time here.
Did you have a specific interest in Lateral Puzzles that led you to the site or did you stumble upon it by accident? |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Username: Nimue
Post Number: 9058
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 8:54 pm: | |
"Surprise in America" has finally been solved!! Thank you, Solo!!! Please check out my new puzzle, everyone. I'll be online for at least three more hours. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Username: Nimue
Post Number: 9059
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - 9:01 pm: | |
And here's my latest offering in the Weightless Poetry department:
For Tamara
There was once a young lady from Worcester
Who got pecked on the neck by a rooster.
So she bit him right back,
His friends joined his attack,
And she's in for a tetanus booster.
It appeared in The Providence Journal today, accompanied by a terrific picture of two roosters. 'Worcester' has various pronunciations, but a com:on one rhymes with 'rooster.' See this link: http://www.worcestermass.com/pronounce/worcestercounty.shtml |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Username: Yojimbo
Post Number: 336
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 4:11 am: | |
Hello, one and all --
I've been absent from the LTPF for some years, but my self-esteem depends not at all upon a "Welcome back, good fellow!" post or any other. Very nice to see some old familiar user names: Galfisk, Jenburdoo, Woubit, Peter365...
Hope all is well with you, and that I can participate in cracking your puzzles, of which I have been so fond, although the intervening Wilderness Years were indeed wild: when I publish my memoirs, you may all gasp and groan at the blood and mayhem [mostly figurative], and perhaps even laud my survival and clambering back to the LTPF, among other fond and former pursuits. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 5678
Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 11:38 am: | |
Welcome back, good fellow! ;-)
I have now posted a big hint in "Combustable clothing", to hopefully breathe some life back into it. |
Redwine (Redwine)
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Username: Redwine
Post Number: 2282
Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2013 - 1:58 pm: | |
I posted recaps and hints in all mu puzzles :-) |
Hardcore (Hardcore)
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Username: Hardcore
Post Number: 41
Registered: 2-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 3:44 am: | |
Peter365: Thank you and no, you were not patronizing me. I am proud of my way of thinking laterally, including logically and mathematically. I do not know anyone that has a knack for puzzles and this website is a dream come true. I love it here! And to answer your question, I came across this site so i could find some lateral thinking puzzles.
Oh, and by the way, i can't seem to get the fonts to work. When i type in b{nop}, i get b{nop}. Why? |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
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Post Number: 1246
Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 5:45 am: | |
Hardcore: You have to type a backslash before whatever format you're using, like \ b{nop} (without the space, of course) |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Username: Yojimbo
Post Number: 338
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 6:33 am: | |
After a long sabbatical [not literally, but laterally], I returned to the LTPF -- glad to be back -- and scouted some puzzles, but rather than jump into one, posted one of my own, from my own experience. Check it out...? |
Solo1 (Solo1)
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Username: Solo1
Post Number: 569
Registered: 5-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 4:42 pm: | |
If Hardcore is the youngest person on the Forum, I think I may be in the running for the oldest. C'mon, I will fess up if a few more oldies (but goodies) will.
Also it might be fun to learn why we have chosen the forum names that we have. "Hardcore," I'm sure is for "hardcore puzzler," and "Solo" is for another of my favorite pastimes, playing Solitaire, but why Yojimbo, for instance? Redwine? Galfisk? etc. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Username: Nimue
Post Number: 9069
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 6:21 pm: | |
Solo1: I have chosen 'Nimue' because it's half of my double first name, but I also chose this double first name, to which I had my birth name legally changed. Nimue is a wonderful character in Le Morte D'Arthur and I also like the name for its own sake.
Everyone: Thanks for the latest round of questions, which I've answered in hope of MORE. I'll be online for about 5 more hours. |
Hardcore (Hardcore)
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Username: Hardcore
Post Number: 43
Registered: 2-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2013 - 8:32 pm: | |
Solo1
You got the meaning of my name right. But what I really wanted to say is I, to, love solitaire. It is my favorite card games and I play 2-3 rounds a night. Glad to find somebody that loves it too. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 5714
Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2013 - 8:17 am: | |
"GalFisk". Now that's a long story.
To begin with, it means CrazyFish in Norwegian. As you may or may not know, I grew up in Norway.
It began in fourth grade. For some reason, most of the people in my class adopted (or got assigned) nicknames. Camilla was "Kim", Ole Magnus was "Jolla" (jolle=small boat), Magnus got "Maggie" (which he wasn't very happy about).
My name is "Åke" ("Å" is like the "aw" in "awesome", an "ke" is like the "che" in "chemical"). That transmuted into "Honko" (no special meaning in Norwegian).
Some years later, I changed it to "Hong Cko", because it looked Chinese. I don't recall why I wanted it to look Chinese, but I stuck with it.
A few more years went by, and I entered (the closest Norwegian equivalent to) vocational high school - electrical/electronic engineering. I felt like I had come home. For the first time, I was surrounded by people who loved what I loved. Computers, video games and the internet were getting big, and I got my first few computers.
I had hardly used my nickname for a long time, but on IRC (chat) and in video games, everyone used them. I soon realized that noone knew how to spell, or say, "Hong Cko". So I was on the lookout for a new nickname.
Enter second year of high school. Electronics class. I love electronics, and at the time I had been a hobbyist for many years (and was easily best in the class because of it). Combine this with an extremely boring teacher, droning on monotonously about something I already knew, and the result is, of course, boredom. Boredom+sitting at a desk and not being allowed to leave+writing implements=doodling. The teacher was getting into a different area of electronics, so I wrote it as a headline and drew an arrow underneath, instead of simply underlining it, because why not.
It was a very sloppy arrow. So I gave it teeth. and fish bones. an an angry eye. It was inspired by this comic book character, created by Belgian artist Andre Franquin: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QLye3hXZjE4/Ro4-yn9H5QI/AAAAAAAAABA/jxpvKPJ2mWo/s200/abc_marsu_piranhas.jpg
"Marsupilami" is an animal with an improbably long tail, which it uses, in addition to climbing, punching, and bouncing, to fish and eat piranhas - discarding the bones. My arrow-fish looked like the piranha bones, and was named "PzYChO PiRAyA". (piraya=piranha in Norwegian)
I had a new nickname.
Which was, in many instances, too long to use. And "PiRAyA" was often taken. So I used "ThaPiRAyA".
Which sucked. It was too long. People said "Fisken" ("the fish") instead, which wasn't cool. I didn't want to be "the fish". This was during my LAN gaming days; we used to gather at someone's home with our computers, and play games together. I became "fisken" whenever we spoke in the context of the games.
So I was again on the lookout for a new nickname. But at least I had a new doodle. Whenever I was bored, I filled pages with piranha skeletons of all sizes.
During electronics workshops, we had assigned workbenches with electrostatic protection, in order not to damage sensitive circuits. This included a conductive rubber mat covering the work surface. It was light blue, and took to ballpoint pens very nicely. So of course we doodled on it.
I never knew who it was, but a guy in one of my parallel classes shared this workbench with me, as well as my love of doodling. So as we used this workbench in alternate lectures, we added to and improved upon each others' doodles.
Once, he wrote a snake and wrote "black adder" underneath.
I gave the snake venom-dripping fangs, and wrote a piranha skeleton drinking the venom.
"PzYChO PiRAyA", I wrote on the side.
The next time we had the electronics workshop in my class, the other guy had translated that into Norwegian: "Gal fisk" (crazy fish).
And thus, GalFisk. |
Solo1 (Solo1)
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Post Number: 573
Registered: 5-2012
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2013 - 7:17 pm: | |
Thanks, Nimue, HC and GF. I knew about the Morte D'Arthur, so figured that must have something to do with it. But I thought at first that Galfisk was, well, a gal. Once I knew better, I knew it must mean something in Norwegian.
But nobody's willing to tell their ages?? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 6085
Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2013 - 10:02 pm: | |
KayleeTonksLupin is from my very first ever roleplay character/fanfic OC I created, for (of course) a Harry Potter group. It was just after Order of the Phoenix had come out, in 2003, and I was eighteen years old, just starting college.
I just knew that Remus and Tonks were going to get together (though it took them another book to actually admit it, and they barely said two sentences to each other in OotP) and I decided they needed to have a daughter, who I named Kaylee. A friend of mine insisted on Kaylee having a twin, Diana, and so it was.
Kaylee isn't my real name (though Diana was hers) but I think it sounds prettier than Elizabeth which is, after all, far more common in my area. In fact I went to elementary school with another Elizabeth in my class, and so I was Lizzie and she was Liz just to make things easier. I am, in fact, named for Queen Elizabeth II and the Princess Royal (my middle name is Anne...remember the 'e', it's very important)...so I guess my royalty obsession was destiny.
Anyway, I stuck myself with Kaylee Tonks-Lupin as an online persona even when the HP group flopped, and then when I got into Tolkien fandom and began writing there, I took Kaylee Arafinwiel as a pen name and kept Kaylee Tonks-Lupin purely out of nostalgia.
Oh, and I'm going to be 28 in six and a half weeks, give or take a day. |
Doriana (Doriana)
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Post Number: 3579
Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2013 - 10:13 pm: | |
The story behind my username is pretty easy: I'm a huge fan of Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray and I picked the female version of the main character's name as my username.
And I just turned 21 some weeks ago. |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Post Number: 344
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 12:06 am: | |
Per my username:
I reference Akira Kurosawa's excellent film, Yojimbo, in which the eponymous protagonist, a master-less samurai, finds himself in a small town with rival gangs engaged in frequent battle. Each gang tries to enlist him to vanquish the other, but he plays both ends against the middle, fighting, rather, "for justice," and as a result, gets the cr*p beaten out of him more than once. However, at the denouement, he dispatches the gangsters in a showdown, with his craft and skill, and at the end of the film, is seen walking down the road, away from the town.
I find the hero/anti-hero of Yojimbo inspirational - although one might be bruised and bloodied, "just keep walking," and doing what's right, and one will survive to participate in sequels, so to speak.
I'm from the Pacific Northwest of the US, or as I put it, "I live on an island off the coast of america," and I recently, with little fanfare [as intended], turned fifty -- so I'm guessing I'm upper median age for the forum. |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
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Post Number: 1249
Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 3:29 am: | |
I just used my dog's name when I signed up for the forum. Well, her name is just Kye Ann, with it obviously just being an alternative spelling of cayenne pepper. Kye Ann Pepper is her nickname. My family quite literally raided our spice cabinet trying to find the right name-Paprika? No, it's too red. Ginger? Too brown. Then we pulled out the jar of cayenne pepper and decided it was perfect. We changed the spelling firstly because cayenne didn't seem like a good name as it was, and also because both my and my mother's middle names are Ann, so there are now three girls with the middle name of Ann in our family.
And as for my age, as a HTF living in the US of A, I have been brainwashed to never, NEVER, give out my age, for some odd reason (seriously, how do you track someone down using their age?). But my brainwashing sticks and I will therefore only say that I am a teenager. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Post Number: 5720
Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 6:31 am: | |
Oh, I totally missed the age question. I'm 31. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Username: Peter365
Post Number: 4629
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 1:48 pm: | |
I used to play on-line poker and peter365 was my name on the site i used. I hate my user name because it's so unimaginative.
If I were coming up with a new one it would be Worldleaderpretend, which is an REM song from their Document album. Forum regulars will be all too aware that REM are my favourite band (still can't bring myself to refer to them in the past tense). I use that name on a few sports chatrooms that i post on from time to time.
I'll be 43 this July. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 6090
Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 3:33 pm: | |
Speaking of July, my mum, Tortiekitten (as some of you know that is/was my sister's handle on here - because she loves tortoiseshell kittens - and she's 24 incidentally) and I are going to Walt Disney World from the 13th to the 20th. If we'll be there on your birthday, Peter, I'll see if we can visit Epcot that day - maybe we can pick up something Irish in the British pavilion :-) |
Solo1 (Solo1)
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Post Number: 580
Registered: 5-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 5:29 pm: | |
Peter, does your handle mean that you are Peter 365 days a year (and in leap year too, I assume) or that there were 364 other people with the same name on the site?
Thanks for chiming in! |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 9089
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 7:21 pm: | |
Thanks for all the great questions, which I've answered in hope of MORE. I'll be around for about 4 more hours. |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
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Post Number: 1252
Registered: 1-2012
| | Posted on Saturday, April 13, 2013 - 8:42 pm: | |
Thanks to Kaylee for her questions on my puzzles. I've answered them, and would love some more, especially on "How Odd..." as there is one important piece that hasn't been figured out (but once it has, the puzzle should progress much more quickly). |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Post Number: 349
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 2:10 am: | |
I just posted a new, likely brisk puzzle [all that glitters], and noted, when I glanced at it to see if the formatting was correct, that I was the last poster on the last three puzzles.
After having been absent from the forum for a few years, it's really hooked me back in - and now, I'll be the last poster on this page, until someone else lobs in some gem, question, or other.
The LTPF is a nice place to hang out - and at the moment, is preventing me from scrubbing out my kimchi refrigerator... not that I mind that much. |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Post Number: 352
Registered: 11-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 3:35 am: | |
Mods:
Having had a lateral LTPF sabbatical, I found myself confused, again, by "svv," but have resolved it.
Is it possible to have access to acronyms or other terminology used on the LTPF?
"Scrund" is a classic example; the word exists here, in abundance, but nowhere else in my experience -- at least, not yet.
for that matter, what about a page with lists commonly invoked, for legitimacy, as for example, "LTPF list of centuries" [although no actual list would be required], or an "LTPF list of professions," which seems to get posted in puzzles, or otherwise invoked by reference, or "LTPF color wheel," which comes up, as well. I recently saw a post, by Kayleetonkslupin, I think, in which a marvelous and potential "LTPF list of TV genres" appeared.
The LTPF is the only online forum I have ever lurked; everyone by now knows "LOL" and "ROFL," but we don't often see those here [thank god], but we do see "HAM," and I recall when I wondered, "What the hell is a ham? a smoked leg of a pig? a bad actor?"
I thought about this years ago, and perhaps others think such a need is unnecessary, but considering my own "sharp and clever" nature, but occasional confusion at the LTPF nevertheless, perhaps new users might benefit from access to these things, and not only them, but experienced users as well.
For that matter, a conventional "LTPF list of professions" could be subject to amendment, becoming an ultimate compendium.
Mods: interested?
Other users: am I barking up the wrong tree?
for one, "svv" is not immediately intuitive, unless one has a mathematical background, and even then, could cause confusion.
Or do these things weed out the less-determined?
at any rate, I'll be on the lookout for posted lists, and will endeavor to collect them, should the forum be interested in submissions of verbose same. |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
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Post Number: 588
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 3:36 am: | |
User names, huh... It's late, I'm looking forward to reading the thread. But in the mean time, does any body have a beach house with a dock that they're not using? The house can be a simple shack. Oh, I'll need a sailboat too.. Maybe I should just sell my townhouse and live on a boat... I was semi-seriously thinking about that last night as I was drifting off to sleep.. Can always take showers at the marina.. |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Post Number: 353
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 3:45 am: | |
Beachbum:
funny; depends on where you are.
On my island, "off the coast of america," near Puget Sound [NW US], a friend indeed has both beach house and dock; she's enlisted me and another to help renovate both, and neither are being used, presently. No doubt you could have access to either, particularly if you were willing to hoist tools and haul lumber, and make use of same.
About ten miles north of here is what they tell me is excellent inland surfing, and not only that, should you be a surfer as well, Drew Kampion [all real surfers know who he is] lives a few miles from me, and we also just now spoke on the phone.
Wherever you are, it seems as if you might belong here. Can you make it? |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 5:48 pm: | |
Thanks for the very generous offer - not a surfer but a sailor (well actually haven't for a decade due to logistical problems). This would be geographically challenging, But I'll shoot you an email or v.v. Thanks again! |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
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Post Number: 596
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 6:05 pm: | |
Yojimbo, I can see your point about about newcomers not knowing the terminology. In fact, I never did find a link to any of the LTPF lists of occupations, etc. Or the meaning of "Yope", etc.
I suppose there's no way that a sticky thread about all this could hurt.
The alternative would be for people to try to be as strict as possible in sticking to "Yes" or "No" answers, and spelling out anything else.
But I don't think the LTPF "culture" and nomenclature is likely to change.
I'm actually a bit surprised that there aren't more people on this forum, because if you google lateral puzzles, this site is not far down the list of search results.
But I do have to reiterate my assertion that a lot of the puzzles on this board are not truly of the classic lateral puzzle genre (although nods to the Nimue puzzle about the voting booth - it involved a red herring, as a lot of truly lateral puzzled do). Many or most puzzles here end up being a game of 20 questions, albeit with a lateral element. I think that with many people to ask questions, any classic Paul Sloane type puzzles would be too quickly solved the minute the first person asks if Jerry is a HAM but he is actually a fish.
Again that is not to say I don't enjoy these puzzles, far from it! They are mentally challenging and often educational! |
Nimue (Nimue)
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Post Number: 9092
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| | Posted on Sunday, April 14, 2013 - 7:17 pm: | |
Thanks for the questions on my latest puzzle, but please don't neglect my others, on which I have just posted HINTS. I'll be online for several hours. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 4633
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 11:04 am: | |
Kaylee
If you find something Irish in the British pavillion then I'll be a bit miffed. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 4634
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 11:12 am: | |
Yojimbo & Beachbum
You may find this to be of some use to you.
It was written by a former puzzler called Doctapepper who was a tad eccentric. Check out the chatroom archives from about 3 or 4 years ago and you'll see what i mean. |
Gourami (Gourami)
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Post Number: 598
Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 2:11 pm: | |
Oh, Doctapepper...good times...
I still feel honored to have been defined on the LTPF wiki.
By the way, Beachbum, I completely agree with you that most of the puzzles here are a slightly different type. I used to always try to remain "true" to the Sloane set-up, but somewhere along the line I lost my way. I think it was Nimue and her addictive scrunds. But I always feel a little prouder of my puzzle if it has a classic lateral twist in it. |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
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Post Number: 608
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 2:45 pm: | |
First of all and once again (a contradiction?), I want to state non-categorically that I love this puzzle forum, but still am not so sure that these puzzles could all be considered lateral .. and I know I'm nit picking ... and again it doesn't mean I like them any less...
The name Doctapepper does ring a bell.
I'm not at all sure that I agree with his definition of a lateral puzzle. Maybe his definition is necessary but no sufficient. Yes, it's true that a lateral puzzle needs clarifying questions and answers, but you could say this about any "20-questions" type of puzzle - think "Animal, Mineral, or vegetable". Yes the concept is expanded a bit in the forum, but often it involves to narrowing down guesses. And I actually have a mixed feeling about LTPF lists for a similar reason (although I admit to having summoned the LTPF-list deity once or twice).
I think that the classic idea of a lateral puzzle, in the Paul Sloane sense, perhaps doesn't carry over well into a public forum armed with lists of occupations of the like. The problem is that in the classic sense, the solution to LP's usually involve a single out-of-the-box thought, and we now knock out most of the lateral false assumptions right at the beginning:
Puzzler: Two men are found dead in a cabin in the woods
Questioner: Men as in H/A/M? Cabin as in a small livable building, often wooden, built in a hunting or mountain area?
A no to the second question will quickly lead to discovering the alternative meaning of "cabin" that the puzzle hinges on. And we LTPFers rattle off these establishing questions right of the bat.
That being said, mods, why not put a link to this page somewhere on a sticky thread? Unless there is already and I missed it. |
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 2:51 pm: | |
Gourami and everyone. Don't get me wrong - I love the Scrunds, neologisms, rulebreakers and all that, and the not-completely-lateral puzzles.
So although I probably sound like I'm griping, I'm really not - I love participating in these puzzles - maybe just nit-picking about definitions. Short of changing the name of the web site, which ain't gonna happen, I'm fine with the anomaly. |
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 3:08 pm: | |
I agree with you to a point, but I think there's still a way to write a puzzle that involves lateral thinking and that also takes a while for the LTPFers to solve. You just have to avoid the territory that's already been covered (the twist being that the main character is not human, or it was actors making a movie, identical twins, etc.) I blamed Nimue earlier for veering me off the path, but in reality all of her puzzles are what I'd consider true lateral puzzles. They have a trick or twist in them--that aha! moment when you finally get it.
On second thought, wasn't it Doctapeppa? |
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 5:01 pm: | |
Peter365
I appreciate the link regarding LTPF nomenclature, and actually, vaguely recall having seen that page a few years ago.
Is it helpful to have a permanent link to it in the left frame? I vote for it, if that matters. |
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| | Posted on Monday, April 15, 2013 - 5:47 pm: | |
Peter365 said:
Kaylee
If you find something Irish in the British pavillion then I'll be a bit miffed.
Lol, oh Peter. Well as far as I know there's not an Irish pavilion, sadly. So it would have to be there if it's anywhere. I would call it the UK pavilion, but I'm fairly sure it's called the British pavilion - let me double check...
(*googlepedia search*)
Ah - mea culpa, mea maxima culpa, Peter. It is indeed the United Kingdom pavilion - I've just heard too many people calling it "British pavilion". So there may be Irish, or at least *Northern* Irish, something or other there. Is that acceptable, since Ireland does not have its own pavilion? |
Beachbum (Beachbum)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 3:38 am: | |
Mods: I agree that the wiki URL that Yojimbo mentions, or something similar, be either linked or copied here. |
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 4:20 am: | |
I've posted a really very very obvious hint in my LatVenture, it having seen no action for over 10 days, despite the recat. |
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 11:51 am: | |
I agree a jargon bursting list would be good but my mod knowledge only applies to archiving solved puzzles , correcting post errors and the like. It's more a question for our lord and master Paul to alter the look of the site.
By the way Beachbum I was intrigued by your two men in the cabin example. Why, when the puzzle statement says 'two men are found dead in a cabin in the woods' would it be deemed necessary to ask whether they are human adult males?
It would be very disingenuous of a puzzle setter to call them men if they were not so. The HAM question would only make sense if the puzzle statement said something like 'Bill & George are found dead in a cabin in the woods'
We have a three letter word for a HAM and it is indeed a MAN. A small point but I've noticed this a lot recently. |
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 11:59 am: | |
Kaylee , you're not the first and won't be the last to get confused although your last post does show you have a good understanding of the whole UK, Britain confusion (i'm sure I've lectured on this subject before).
Yes the UK's full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland with Britain consisting of England Scotland, Wales and probably the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man and a few others populated islands. So Northern Ireland is not in Britain but is in the UK.
A lot of my kin are from Northern Ireland anyway and as you know the house where I grew up was a mere 200 yards from the border between the Republic & North. I have a kinda cool northern irish accent. |
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 8:23 pm: | |
I agree a jargon bursting list would be good but my mod knowledge only applies to archiving solved puzzles , correcting post errors and the like. It's more a question for our lord and master Paul to alter the look of the site. Again, not a big deal and I just posted two puzzles that got quickly demolished because I think they lacked a true lateral element.
By the way Beachbum I was intrigued by your two men in the cabin example. Why, when the puzzle statement says 'two men are found dead in a cabin in the woods' would it be deemed necessary to ask whether they are human adult males?
It would be very disingenuous of a puzzle setter to call them men if they were not so. The HAM question would only make sense if the puzzle statement said something like 'Bill & George are found dead in a cabin in the woods'
True... the cabin puzzle would be quickly solved the minute it was found that the cabin was an airplane cabin..
We have a three letter word for a HAM and it is indeed a MAN. A small point but I've noticed this a lot recently. |
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 11:10 am: | |
You may be interested to know that my user name is in fact an acronym of Adult Drinker Must Imbibe Nightly.
I mainly drink brake fluid but I can stop any time I want. |
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 17, 2013 - 1:50 pm: | |
Not to worry, Beachbum, I don't think anyone is offended by your observation. In fact, you've got me thinking how "truly" lateral each of my puzzles are before I post them. I think we should have a sliding scale.
Aw, Admin, I always thought it meant Architect of Destination-Innovation Married Isaac Newton. I thought y'all made a lovely couple... |
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 18, 2013 - 10:13 am: | |
Ha Ha Admin love the Brake Fluid joke, It reminded me of a good one from the one and only Steven Wright
'I'm addicted to placebos, I could quit but it wouldn't make any difference' |
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 - 8:25 pm: | |
I have just posted hints on all my puzzles. Please don't pass them by. I'll be online for about 3 more hours. |
Kyeannpepper (Kyeannpepper)
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| | Posted on Friday, April 26, 2013 - 5:54 pm: | |
I have $poiled my 'How Odd...' puzzle, as it was dead. Please, check out my neologism, entitled 'Penguins!'. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, April 30, 2013 - 6:27 pm: | |
I have $poiled a solved puzzle and posted a replacement as well as hints on both my ongoing puzzles. A word to the lateral. . . . |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 4:41 pm: | |
The events my "Not Green?" puzzle were about have come to pass. Congratulations to the Netherlands on their new King, Willem-Alexander, and to the new Princess of Orange, Catharina-Amalia. I heard that she asked her father when he would abdicate, and he said "Wouldn't you like to know?" Lol.
Well, the princess is nine, and the age of majority is 18, so barring accidents, not for at least nine or ten years. I would put it more likely at twenty to thirty years, since Willem-Alexander's quite young yet (now Europe's youngest monarch). Anyway, a happy new era for the Netherlands! Long live the King! =)
(My great-grandmother was Dutch, hence the interest. =) ) |
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2013 - 9:18 pm: | |
Beachbum - the difference between "Man" and "HAM" is that the question "Is he a man?" includes only a single yes or no question, as a man is human AND adult AND male. On the other hand, the question "HAM?" as used on this forum is actually an abbreviated form of THREE separate yes or no questions: Is he human? Is he an adult? Is he male? So it's much more useful to use "HAM" than "man." When I first joined the forum,I used to see a lot of folks on here ask the question as "H?A?M?" instead of "HAM?", which makes it clearer that there are three questions embedded in it, but I don't see that spelling/punctuation much anymore.
And YES - a permanent link to the wiki page or a similar list would be wonderful! |
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2013 - 10:06 am: | |
Hi folks, I posted hints to my two long-running puzzles "Socially Awkward Penguin" and "WUI". Please also have a look at my new puzzle (which I thought would be a quickie!) =) |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2013 - 11:11 am: | |
Happy Friday puzzle protagonists.
I've moved all solved puzzles to the April folder so the active puzzles section looks quite neat at present.
If you have a languishing puzzle why not follow Nimue & Doriana's by posting a hint and letting us know via the chatroom that you've done so.
Cheers |
Nimue (Nimue)
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| | Posted on Sunday, May 05, 2013 - 3:24 pm: | |
I've answered all the questions on my puzzles (thanks!!) & posted HINTS on two (including the languishing "Be Careful What You Wish For." |
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 10:37 am: | |
Aren't things very quiet in Lateral Land at present. It's been 9 days since anybody posted a new puzzle. This is a record during my time here. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2013 - 7:47 pm: | |
I've answered all the questions on 2 of my puzzles & posted a HINT on the (languishing) third. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 3:32 pm: | |
I suspect everyone's out enjoying spring instead of puzzling. I sure am. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:18 am: | |
That's probably it but here in the Emerald Isle we've had a lot of heavy showers so puzzling is a welcome distraction.
I do love this time of year don't you? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:18 am: | |
That's probably it but here in the Emerald Isle we've had a lot of heavy showers so puzzling is a welcome distraction.
I do love this time of year don't you? |
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 - 11:49 am: | |
Peter365:
my puzzle, "Say: what?", nudged along by queries from stalwart Galisk, is not yet $poiled, yet I see it's being moved to "recently $spoiled."
can you budge it back? It seems to also appear among the active puzzles, but am wary of confused visitors to the forum.
thanks much - and per Spring, we're having cool weather in the Pacific NW of the US, leading to an extended and astonishing bloom of flowering shrubs and trees, including Rhododendron macrophylum, our Washington state flower. |
Nimue (Nimue)
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| | Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 - 9:09 pm: | |
This bit of weightless (?) poetry appeared on The Providence Journal's editorial page today, accompanied by a really terrific illustration.
To Avoid Her
He tries to avoid her without being mean.
She's someone with whom he wants not to be seen.
So he never begins a discussion with Jean:
She has to speak first (it's as if she's the Queen*).
*A traditional rule of royal protocol is that you don't speak to a British monarch until spoken to. |
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| | Posted on Sunday, May 19, 2013 - 2:05 am: | |
Peter365
Can you restore "Say: what?" to the active puzzles?
Not yet $poiled, and it was going so well, too... |
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