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tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Friday, January 14, 2005 - 11:18 am: |       |
Is Time Travel relevant? no
Does this take place in the future? yes
If so, is it important when exactly in the future? yope
I need to clarify:
There is mention of an argumant (disagreement) and an event that occurred on the day before the crash. Are the argument and the event one and the same thing? argument about event
Do we need to discover exactly what their work / mission involved? reason for the argument
"The day after yesterday"
Does that mean today? no ther daty the ship crashed ( taken from the film title the day after tomorow )
Does it mean the day before yesterday )(ie 2 days ago)? no
Does it mean something else? no |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 10:34 pm: | |
Is this based on the film "The day after tomorrow"?
Is the future era hundreds of years away?
The argument was about an event?
Is it relevant when the event ocurred?
Is it a past event or a future event?
Was the argument between the pilot and the other crew? All the crew?
The event was a mission? The mission they were about to embark on?
Was there disagreement about how to proceed?
About some plan?
Is this right: The pilot disagreed with the crew about the mission and therefore killed them by sabotaging the flight.
If it is correct, do we need to find out more details? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 8:54 am: | |
Is this based on the film "The day after tomorrow"? no just a quote
Is the future era hundreds of years away? in the time that space travel is very advanced
The argument was about an event? yes
Is it relevant when the event ocurred? yes
Is it a past event or a future event? future avent about to happen
Was the argument between the pilot and the other crew? rephrase All the crew? yes
The event was a mission? yes The mission they were about to embark on? yes
Was there disagreement about how to proceed? no
About some plan? no
Is this right: The pilot disagreed with the crew about the mission and therefore killed them by sabotaging the flight.
If it is correct, do we need to find out more details? more details required |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 10:29 am: | |
Are any of the crew related by family?
Did the pilot think the mission was dangerous?
What was it about the mission hat caused disagreement:
The place they were going to?
How they wre going to get there?
Any other planets involved?
Any other space ships involved?
Any other people involved where the mission was taking place?
Was it a war mission?
Aliens involved? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:46 pm: | |
Are any of the crew related by family? no
Did the pilot think the mission was dangerous? no
What was it about the mission hat caused disagreement: rephrase (i have instead anserd the questions as, does the mission involve)
The place they were going to? yope
How they wre going to get there? no
Any other planets involved? yes
Any other space ships involved? yes
Any other people involved where the mission was taking place? yes
Was it a war mission? yope
Aliens involved? yope |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Monday, January 17, 2005 - 4:41 pm: | |
Is it only one aspect of the mission that caused disagreement?
The mission:
Did they have to collect and return something?
Take something and deliver it?
Do something when they got there?
Were any of the crew (or pilot) aliens?
Any spies or traitors involved?
Were they going to a specific planet such as Mars?
were they leaving the Solar System? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 8:53 am: | |
Is it only one aspect of the mission that caused disagreement? no
The mission:
Did they have to collect and return something? yope
Take something and deliver it? yope
Do something when they got there? yes
Were any of the crew (or pilot) aliens? define alien
Any spies or traitors involved? yope
Were they going to a specific planet such as Mars? the planet they where going to is karak (taken from homeworld)
were they leaving the Solar System? yes |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 12:03 pm: | |
By the way I am not familiar with the film that this puzzle comes from or "homeworld" - do I need to know more about the background of the film etc? Is "Homeworld" the PC game series? If it is, I'll research it.
Could you help me by telling me if any of the stuff that I ask about is not really relevant - thanks.
Do I need to find out what it is that they have to do when they get to Karak?
Are either of these definitions appropriate:
Aliens = creatures that supposedly come from other planets or elsewhere in the universe (like Mr Spok from the planet Vulcan)?
Aliens = mutant humans perhaps like spiderman / the incredible hulk - that sort?
Aliens = any creatures that are non human?
Aliens = hybrid offspring from the a sexual union between a non human and a human?
The mission on Karak:
Was it to destroy anything?
To create anything?
To change something?
Involve politics?
Did it involve colonising the planet?
"Any spies or traitors involved? yope"
Were any of the crew spies or traitors?
Is the Pilot who caused the deths a goody or a baddy?
I don't yet understand this statement below:
"but it would have been avoided if the ship had not flown yesterday"
Does it mean, that if they had flown before the argument with the pilot, then it would not have happened?
Does it mean that if the argument had not taken place at all then it would not have happened?
Or does it mean something different?
Did the pilot or any of the crew know any of those on the planet Karak? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:45 pm: | |
By the way I am not familiar with the film that this puzzle comes from or "homeworld" - do I need to know more about the background of the film etc? Is "Homeworld" the PC game series? If it is, I'll research it. home world has no referance to this puzel but if your interested go to www.relic.com
Could you help me by telling me if any of the stuff that I ask about is not really relevant - thanks.
Do I need to find out what it is that they have to do when they get to Karak? yes
Are either of these definitions appropriate:
Aliens = creatures that supposedly come from other planets or elsewhere in the universe (like Mr Spok from the planet Vulcan)? yes
Aliens = mutant humans perhaps like spiderman / the incredible hulk - that sort? no
Aliens = any creatures that are non human? other plannet
Aliens = hybrid offspring from the a sexual union between a non human and a human? yope
The mission on Karak:
Was it to destroy anything? no
To create anything? yes
To change something?
Involve politics? yes
Did it involve colonising the planet? yope
"Any spies or traitors involved? yope"
Were any of the crew spies or traitors? no
Is the Pilot who caused the deths a goody or a baddy? BAD
I don't yet understand this statement below:
"but it would have been avoided if the ship had not flown yesterday" the day the event hapened and the reson they where murdered
Did the pilot or any of the crew know any of those on the planet Karak? yes |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 6:14 pm: | |
So they were going to Karak to create something then?
Shall we call the pilot who killed the other crew Bob (or do you have a name for him)?
Was Bob a spy / traitor / alien /?
Did he know what the mission was about before the argument yesterday?
Or did he only learn about it when told what the mission was and this lead to the argument?
Did he disagree with the mission?
Is it essential to find out what the mission was to create?
Is Karal inhabitted by aliens?
By humans?
Would the mission have caused problems for the inhabitants of Karak?
Did Bob come from Karak?
Did he have friends / relatives on Karak?
The thing they were going to create:
A building / buildings?
Something biological?
Something mechanical
An industry?
A new civilisation?
Something else? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 8:23 am: | |
So they were going to Karak to create something then? yes
Shall we call the pilot who killed the other crew Bob (or do you have a name for him)? bob will do
Was Bob a spy / traitor / alien /? no
Did he know what the mission was about before the argument yesterday? yes
Or did he only learn about it when told what the mission was and this lead to the argument?
Did he disagree with the mission? no
Is it essential to find out what the mission was to create? yes
Is Karal inhabitted by aliens? no
By humans? yes
Would the mission have caused problems for the inhabitants of Karak? no
Did Bob come from Karak? no
Did he have friends / relatives on Karak? no
The thing they were going to create:
A building / buildings? no
Something biological? no
Something mechanical no
An industry? no
A new civilisation? no
Something else? yes
its spelt kharak |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 9:09 am: | |
If Bob was a bad guy but wasn't a traitor or spy who was - anybody on Kharak? Anbody among the dead crew?
Anybody on Kharak?
Do I need to find out more about:
Bob?
The dead crew?
The Thing to be created?
The mission?
Kharak and its inhabitants?
Anything else?
Was the single objective of the mission to creat something or were there any other important tasks I need to discover?
This thing to be created on Kharak was it:
a living thing or non living?
Was it something you could see and touch?
Or was it something conceptual (like a goverment) or invisible?
If it was something tangible was it bigger than a cell phone / TV / Car / house / Football stadium?
Had it been created anywhere else before?
Would it improve life on Kharak?
Was Bob against this thing being created?
Was anybody else against it? |
Simon Downham (Beroean)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 9:13 am: | |
Is a time machine involved?
Or is time travel involved? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Thursday, January 27, 2005 - 11:19 am: | |
If Bob was a bad guy but wasn't a traitor or spy who was - anybody on Kharak? Anbody among the dead crew? yope
Anybody on Kharak? yes
Do I need to find out more about:
Bob? no
The dead crew? yope
The Thing to be created? yes
The mission? yes
Kharak and its inhabitants? no
Anything else? yes
Was the single objective of the mission to creat something or were there any other important tasks I need to discover? yes
This thing to be created on Kharak was it:
a living thing or non living? non living
Was it something you could see and touch? not touch
Or was it something conceptual (like a goverment) or invisible? treaty
If it was something tangible was it bigger than a cell phone / TV / Car / house / Football stadium? no
Had it been created anywhere else before? yes
Would it improve life on Kharak? yes
Was Bob against this thing being created? no
Was anybody else against it? no
Is a time machine involved? no
Or is time travel involved?no |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 9:05 pm: | |
Was the argument over ethics?
Are the specifics of the treaty needed? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 8:53 am: | |
Was the argument over ethics? no
Are the specifics of the treaty needed? yes ish |
Dref (Dref)
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 12:40 am: | |
Is there any racism here? regionalism? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 11:11 am: | |
Is there any racism here? no
regionalism? no |
Fred Z (Dref)
| | Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 3:40 am: | |
Did one of the inhabitants of the planet "signal" the weapon somehow? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 11:12 am: | |
Did one of the inhabitants of the planet "signal" the weapon somehow? rephrase |
Fred Z (Dref)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:32 pm: | |
Was the weapon directed to the planet somehow? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 4:41 pm: | |
the wepon was ground based a grapple cannon |
Fred Z (Dref)
| | Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 11:44 pm: | |
Did the pilot also die? |
Fred Z (Dref)
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 10:53 pm: | |
And what left do we need to solve? |
John Morahan (Wunderland)
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 3:31 pm: | |
Was the treaty a peace treaty?
or, would it create a military alliance? |
Ian (Image)
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 11:19 pm: | |
Was the ship leaving Karak on the day it was shot down? Arriving?
When it flew yesterday, was it leaving Karak? Arriving?
Relevent?
Any locations important?
Do I need to know more about the wing mate?
If the ship haddned flown yesterday, would ______ have changed?
The captain's descion to shoot them down?
The treaty?
The Wingmate's presence?
The Captain's presence?
The argument/disagreement/whatever it was?
This treaty; did it involve:
Karakian government/citizens?
Earth government/citizens?
Government/citizens of another planet?
The Captain directly?
The Crew directly?
Does the captain work for the same people/government/army/whatever that the now dead crew worked for?
Did the captain know any of the crew....
As relatives?
Friends?
Co-workers?
Aquantances?
Had they met outside of work?
Had they met?
Did the captain come to regret killing the crew?
Will he be punished?
Was it illegal? |
Ian (Image)
| | Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 12:14 am: | |
Would the ship still have flown on that fatal day if it hadn't flown yesterday?
Is the type of any of the ships relevent?
Are any other ships/people involved?
Are the engineer and the weapons expert who aren't guilty relevent?
(Correction: Above change "If the ship haddned flown yesterday, would ______ have changed?" to "If the ship hadn't flown yesterday, would ______ have changed?") |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 4:05 pm: | |
i think you have solved the entire puzzle but hvvent given me all the reason why in one statment
(post your version of what hapend and if it is correct you win)
the treaty is the prevention creating hyperspace techology (this forms part of the homeworld game wich i decided the trety part of the puzzle should revolve around) |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 4:00 pm: | |
is anyone going to answer this |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 4:27 pm: | |
Did the pilot also die? not the one on the ground
Was the ship leaving Karak on the day it was shot down? Arriving? it was at base
When it flew yesterday, was it leaving Karak? yes
Arriving? no
Relevent? yes
Any locations important? no
Do I need to know more about the wing mate? no
The captain's descion to shoot them down? no
The treaty? no
The Wingmate's presence? no
The Captain's presence? do you mean pilot
The argument/disagreement/whatever it was? yes this is the reason
This treaty; did it involve:
Karakian government/citizens? no
Earth government/citizens? no
Government/citizens of another planet? no
The Captain directly? no
The Crew directly? no
Does the captain work for the same people/government/army/whatever that the now dead crew worked for? yes
Did the captain know any of the crew....
As relatives? no
Friends? yes
Co-workers? yes
Aquantances? no
Had they met outside of work? irelevent
Had they met? yes
Did the captain come to regret killing the crew? ?????
Will he be punished? rephrase
Was it illegal? murder is ilegal
Would the ship still have flown on that fatal day if it hadn't flown yesterday? rephrase
Is the type of any of the ships relevent? no
Are any other ships/people involved? only culprit
Are the engineer and the weapons expert who aren't guilty relevent? no
If the ship hadn't flown yesterday, would ______ have changed? their death |
John Morahan (Wunderland)
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 5:23 pm: | |
So if the ship hadn't flown yesterday it would still be on Kharak, and it couldn't have been shot down from the base? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 8:53 am: | |
So if the ship hadn't flown yesterday it would still be on Kharak, and it couldn't have been shot down from the base? no they went to kahrac and returned on the sme day
i think you have solved the entire puzzle but hvvent given me all the reason why in one statment
(post your version of what hapend and if it is correct you win) |
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 6:37 am: | |
AD 2101, war is beginning.
What happen? Somebody set up us the bomb. We get signal. What? Main screen turn on.
"It's you!"
"How are you gentlemen!! All your base are belong to us. You are on the way to destruction."
"What you say?!"
"You have no chance to survive make your time. Ha ha ha ha...."
It's pretty much self-explanatory from there. |
Ian (Image)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 12:12 am: | |
Wow, I should have thought of that...... Except that one person did survive.... and it was destroyed with a bomb, not a grapple cannon... but still, could be it... :P |
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 3:04 am: | |
grapple cannon? what the fizzle are you talking about? |
Ian (Image)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 5:42 pm: | |
Earlier in this puzzle... the ship got shot down by a ground-based grapple cannon.... |
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 9:38 pm: | |
OH SNAP! Was it damaged? I'm sorry, I don't have time to read all these pages, so somebody give me a RECAP so I can SOLVE IT. |
Ian (Image)
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 3:25 am: | |
I would, but frankly, I don't really understand... |
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 4:24 am: | |
Seein' any progress, Ian? |
tyler ward (Scorpion_Hunter)
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 8:44 am: | |
the ships wingmate was puled into the ship the pilot (bad guy)wanted dead
the ship that he wanted dead crashed because of the resulting colision |
Moderator Feenwelt (Dietmar)
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2005 - 7:38 pm: | |
Is this the spoiler, Tyler? |
Moderator Feenwelt (Dietmar)
| | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 8:20 pm: | |
OK, I take it for the *** SPOILER *** and move this poor lonely puzzle. |
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