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Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has this got anything to do with the acoustics and/or the sound system in the church that said organ was interfering with? no

Had the reason that is preventing the organ from being played something to with safety? necessity? a crime? respect? this is closest, but not very close financial?

Is the organ not being played physically preventing any other music from being performed? no

Did something happen earlier that has thus prevented access to the organ? no - ie has the stairs to the choir loft been removed for safety reasons, thus preventing any one from reaching the organ. (on that note: is the organ in a choir loft? no, its on ground level)

Due to the information given above, i take it all the pipes are directly above and behind the organ correct - ie, the 64' wooden stop isn't hidden 5m to the left of the organ in the choir stalls? Hu? keep in mind I'm not an organ expert... Is this relevent?

Were they having the organ cleaned? Rebuilt? this

Interesting questions about the pipes ... were they near the organ at all? yes
Were the pipes being replaced? cleaned?
How many keyboards did the organ have ... 2? 3? 4? 5? more? I have no idea, but I'd think 1
In order to access the pipes, does one have to climb stairs? climb a ladder? go through a door? through the ceiling? neither

Is it possible that they could have continued to sing a capella (without accompaniment)? possible, yes, but not 'fitting'
If they didn't use other instruments, was that for the same reason that they didn't play the organ? no, quite the contrary :)

Were they trying to lower the electric bill? nice idea but no. They were doing quite the contrary.

were any words spoken in the church during this year? very probably
Oneida (Theoneida)
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the organ originally built by someone famous? Did someone famous once play the organ?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Friday, October 29, 2004 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The song "Silent Night" relevant?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 5:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmm, the question i asked earlier about the action of this organ... is this relevant? - Is the organ being retuned?
Is the church renowned for this particular organ/organist that any other music would be contradictary to the fame of the church?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 8:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the organ originally built by someone famous? no but OTRT Did someone famous once play the organ? probably, but irrel

The song "Silent Night" relevant? no

Hmmm, the question i asked earlier about the action of this organ... is this relevant? - Is the organ being retuned? not retuned, but...
Is the church renowned for this particular organ yes/organist that any other music would be contradictary to the fame of the church? no. Keep in mind there was only a period of well over a year in which the organ wasn't played.
Oneida (Theoneida)
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 9:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have we established that the organ was being rebuilt? Was anything else done to the organ that we need to determine?
Do we need to discover why the organ was being rebuilt? Why this organ was so important?
Was a German composer relevant?
Was the organ dedicated or named for someone famous/important?
Was it the first of a particular kind of organ?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 6:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Have we established that the organ was being rebuilt? rebuilt is not the best term for it Was anything else done to the organ that we need to determine? no
Do we need to discover why the organ was being rebuilt? not why, but how Why this organ was so important? not really
Was a German composer relevant? not directly, afaik
Was the organ dedicated or named for someone famous/important? not someone, but...
Was it the first of a particular kind of organ? no, but review your last question
Oneida (Theoneida)
Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 8:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Named for something famous? important? Dedicated to something famous? important?
Would it be better to say it was being refurbished? Did this work on the organ take place inside the church? Were parts of the organ removed and then brought back?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Named for something famous? important? Dedicated to something famous? important? this
Would it be better to say it was being refurbished? that term is even worse Did this work on the organ take place inside the church? yes Were parts of the organ removed and then brought back? no but this is OTRT
Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
Posted on Monday, November 01, 2004 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were they making an identical organ to bring back to the church?
for reasons of preservation?
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 8:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If the church is only used on some days during the year, did they plan to rebuilt the organ between two consecutive masses? but did not finish?
Was something wrong with the organ before they started to rebuild it? Did problems occur during the rebuilding? Did the rebuilding in the end give the desired result?
Did they make some changes which did not find the priest's approval? and the changes had to be removed before the priest allowed to play the organ again?
Did they physically change parts of the organ? if so: was organic matter being used in the production of these parts?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 1:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were they moving it?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry for the delay, folks. My computer crashed big time (its still not running after almost one week now, and after exchanging almost every part), I'm writing this from a friend.

were they making an identical organ to bring back to the church? This isn't toally wrong, but probably not the way you think
for reasons of preservation? not primarily

If the church is only used on some days during the year, did they plan to rebuilt the organ between two consecutive masses? no, explore but did not finish? yes, but not the way you think
Was something wrong with the organ before they started to rebuild it? yes Did problems occur during the rebuilding? no Did the rebuilding in the end give the desired result? FA :)
Did they make some changes which did not find the priest's approval? no, everything was fine with the priest and the changes had to be removed before the priest allowed to play the organ again? no
Did they physically change parts of the organ? yes if so: was organic matter being used in the production of these parts? the puzzle title is just a play on words. The organ was made of the same stuff organs are usually made of.

were they moving it? no with a tiny ish

Hint: locate the smiley above and think about it
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 2:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do the bellows work?
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The smiley is about the "desired result"?
Did they want to dismantle the organ? sell it? put it into some other place?
Was the organ functional all the time during the rebuilding?
Was the organ famous because it did not work properly?
Did they install some electrical device in, or with the organ? (you mentioned the electrical bill earlier)
Amber Davis (Amberdavis522)
Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 9:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they actually replacing the altered parts with original ones?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 6:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry again for the delay... still having problems with my hardware...

Do the bellows work? yes

The smiley is about the "desired result"? no
Did they want to dismantle the organ? sell it? put it into some other place? no to all
Was the organ functional all the time during the rebuilding? yes, for svv of "functional"
Was the organ famous because it did not work properly? no
Did they install some electrical device in, or with the organ? (you mentioned the electrical bill earlier) As I understand it, the bellows are operated by electric power. However there's no device in or with the organ that isn't in thousands of other organs. No bills or costs whatsoever are relevant.

Were they actually replacing the altered parts with original ones? They weren't replacing anything

I'll recap this one soon, promised...
Oneida (Theoneida)
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 10:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone asked if they were cleaning the parts?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 8:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone asked if they were cleaning the parts? Can't remember - they were not.
tinypoem (Tinypoem)
Posted on Monday, November 15, 2004 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any chemical reaction involved?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, November 19, 2004 - 12:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

With a False Assumption with "desired result", were they experimenting? Perhaps trying to get more notes out of the current pipes by fiddling with the bellows or the connecting pipes to get to the 2nd or higher harmonics (or maybe installing a 'helper' pipe for greater control on getting higher and lower notes.)
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Friday, November 26, 2004 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the work with the organ ever completed?
L. Jacobs (Tweek)
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 3:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the 'rebuilding' ever finished?

Was the organ intended to ever be played again?

Was the organ dedicated to a certain holiday or other intangible 'thing'?
Sam Carroll (Greenboi)
Posted on Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok Something is hampering the functioning of the organ for little over a year. It isn't being refurbished, and is composed as any "normal" organ may be. The organ is dedicated to some purpose, which would make it's use against the preist's wishes.
Has a family of swallows nested in the pipes? And the organ won't be used until the have their seasonal migration? Is the organ dedicated to the "notes of the birds" which would lead the Preist to issue a ban on it's use?
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Friday, December 03, 2004 - 2:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Related to the time it was taking for a music piece to be composed?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*** SPOILER ***

Hey folks. I've been away some time and I don't feel like continueing this one, so I might as well...

There's a perfectly ordinary church in the city of Viertlingen. The church services where just the way you would expect them, except for one thing: Not a single note was played on the organ for well over a year. Find out why.

The city is indeed Halberstadt (I forged the name to keep you from Googling). The organ is playing "Organ 2/ASLSP" by John Cage. ASLSP stands for "as slow as possible". They are playing it so slow, it will take them over 600 years! Every note takes more than half a year. The composition starts with a pause - which is why not a single note was played during that time. more info.
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 8:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So how do they maintain a note for half a year? There would have to be continuous noise, not just playing one note every six months - or have I misunderstood?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 1:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You are right. There is a electric pump blowing air through the pipes 24/7. I heared they put sandsacks on the claviature...

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