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(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 1:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Because he proved to be the most qualified applicant, Randy didn't get the job.
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Christmas relevant to this puzzle? Is the name 'Randy' relevant? Is it relevant what the job was? Where the job was? Who decided that Randy would not get the job: Randy himself? the interviewer? another person? Was the interviewer jealous of Randy's qualifications? Were the ulterior motives to Randy not getting the job?

When Randy went for the job, was it his first one? Was he unemployed? Was he in another job? Was it a complete career change? Is there any particular reason that the interviewer didn't actually want the most qualified applicant?

Were any 'unusual' selection methods used?

How far did Randy get in the job selection process?:

Seeing the open position? Sending in a CV? The first interview? Any subsequent interview? Salary decisions? The signing of the contract?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ed Mason (Logician):
Is Christmas relevant to this puzzle? Yes
Is the name 'Randy' relevant? Not particularly
Is it relevant what the job was? Yes
Where the job was? Yes- not geographically, but the general type of employer is relevant.
Who decided that Randy would not get the job: Randy himself? the interviewer? Yes- interviewer.
another person?
Was the interviewer jealous of Randy's qualifications? Were the ulterior motives to Randy not getting the job? No, it could definitely be considered justifiable

When Randy went for the job, was it his first one? Was he unemployed? Was he in another job? Was it a complete career change? All pretty much irrel. Let's say he's unemployed.
Is there any particular reason that the interviewer didn't actually want the most qualified applicant? There's a reason he didn't want this one, at least.

Were any 'unusual' selection methods used? No - standard hiring stuff.

How far did Randy get in the job selection process?:

Seeing the open position? yep
Sending in a CV? Not really required for this job.. he just filled out a form on site
The first interview? About here, and a little after.
Any subsequent interview? Salary decisions?
The signing of the contract? But not as far as these.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here in the States a C. V. is usually only used for academic positions; for regular work we use a resume. I think they were looking for a non-latin-or-foreign-type word to describe it, but the best they could come up with was "What I Done" or "What I Done Did Already" and neither seemed to be quite the thing, somehow...

Would the job have involved wearing a costume of some kind?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo):
Would the job have involved wearing a costume of some kind? Yes it would.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any relevant company policies with regard to health/insurance? Age? Size? Facial hair?

Movie made in 1947 relevant?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo):

Any relevant company policies with regard to health/insurance? Age? Size? Facial hair? No to these.

Movie made in 1947 relevant? Not that I know of.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 4:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, so much for Miracle on 34th Street...

Was the company a department store? Charitable organization? Church? Was there something about Randy's appearance that made him overqualified?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 4:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, so much for Miracle on 34th Street... Not entirely off-base with that..

Was the company a department store? Charitable organization? Church? Yes, a church ran the event for which Randy interviewed.
Was there something about Randy's appearance that made him overqualified? No, he looked the part. But that's not what allowed him to prove he most qualified.
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so was he playing santa claus? looked to much like santa?

was he actually santa?

was this a biography or otherwise bassed of a person and he was looking to play himself?

oh here an ironic one

was he playing Saint Nicholis(the actual cathlic saint that santa is very roughly based of) and happed to look exactly like santa?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen):
so was he playing santa claus? Yes, that was the job.looked to much like santa? No

was he actually santa? No

was this a biography or otherwise bassed of a person and he was looking to play himself? No

oh here an ironic one

was he playing Saint Nicholis(the actual cathlic saint that santa is very roughly based of) and happed to look exactly like santa? No, but that is a good one.
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he insane? Did he believe he actually was Santa, and so the employer feared for the security of the children bound to visit him?
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the reason he was so fit to be santa because he had a santa trait you wouldn't want; had 'too much' of such a trait?

his weight important?
his 'jollyness'?
his love of children?
some presents?
something he owns (sley, reindeer, elves)
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ed Mason (Logician):

Was he insane?
Did he believe he actually was Santa, and so the employer feared for the security of the children bound to visit him? No, but this last bit might help with a little probing..

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen):

was the reason he was so fit to be santa because he had a santa trait you wouldn't want; had 'too much' of such a trait? Yope; not really that he had too much of a trait, but along these lines.

his weight important?
his 'jollyness'?
his love of children?
some presents?
something he owns (sley, reindeer, elves) No to these, though... It may be helpful to find out more specifically what the job entails on this.
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the job to play the Santa in a sort of theatre play? or role play? did he have to go to the houses and distribute presents? or just to walk around and be the Santa, like these guys in the shopping centers?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jens Weber (Sundowner):

was the job to play the Santa in a sort of theatre play? or role play? did he have to go to the houses and distribute presents? or just to walk around and be the Santa, like these guys in the shopping centers?

Most like the last one. He was playing the role of Santa in one place in a church-run event, it could take place anywhere. What he would be doing (which is common sight around Christmas, at least in US shopping centers and the like) is the important element.
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 5:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was he a store santa?
playing santa on tv?
playing santa during a parade?
handing out toys to someone?
going to be the real santa?

was he afraid kids would be confused by him being santa?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 5:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen):

was he a store santa? Yes, more or less.
playing santa on tv?
playing santa during a parade?
handing out toys to someone? Not handing out toys - if it helps, most of the job would be done before Christmas Day.
going to be the real santa?

was he afraid kids would be confused by him being santa? No, he wanted the job, but was denied it.
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was he too fat? :)
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen):

was he too fat? No, but there were some physical issues raised during the interview.
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please answer the following statements with True or False:

The wannabe-Santa (WS) had relevant criminal convictions.
The security of the children was relevant.
WS had relevant medical problems.
WS had relevant phobias.
WS's height was relevant.
The physical location of the 'grotto' was relevant.
The size of the 'grotto' was relevant.
WS had other commitments that would not have allowed him to be Santa.
WS's age was relevant.
I am not even close to the answer with any of the previous statements.
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ed Mason (Logician):

Please answer the following statements with True or False: you're the boss..

The wannabe-Santa (WS) had relevant criminal convictions. False, but not far off.
The security of the children was relevant. No-ish. In the employers' opinions, this could be said to be the case.
WS had relevant medical problems. Very False.
WS had relevant phobias. False
WS's height was relevant. False
The physical location of the 'grotto' was relevant. False
The size of the 'grotto' was relevant. False
WS had other commitments that would not have allowed him to be Santa. False
WS's age was relevant. True, to an extent.

I am not even close to the answer with any of the previous statements. You're in the ballpark, just have to hone in a bit.