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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 8:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fortunately, there was a bear.
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 8:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A real bear? A teddy bear? A symbolic bear?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 9:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was going on a picnic?
Was he stealing picnic baskets?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 10:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Birgitta Ericsson (Brid) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 08:29 am:

A real bear? A teddy bear? A symbolic bear? this one is closest

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 09:39 am:

Was going on a picnic? no
Was he stealing picnic baskets? no :)
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Follow the bear - as in the beer advert?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:04 pm:

Follow the bear - as in the beer advert? no, but the usual bonus point for mentioning the interests of the puzzle host :)
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anything to do with investments?

Are there any humans involved? non-humans? if so, number relevant?

"fortunately" - does it imply that if there hadn't been for the bear, something bad would have happened?

If so, would this "something bad" be a real disaster? a minor inconvenience? something in-between?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Alizon (Alizon) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:07 pm:

Anything to do with investments? no

Are there any humans involved? yes non-humans? apart from the bear? No if so, number relevant? there is one human chiefly involved, another somewhat involved, and a few peripherally involved

"fortunately" - does it imply that if there hadn't been for the bear, something bad would have happened? yes, for svv of "happened"

If so, would this "something bad" be a real disaster? a minor inconvenience? much closer to this end of the spectrum something in-between?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So no real bears involved?
Was the bear visible? A signpost leading to a theme park?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bear recognisable as a bear to a neutral bystander?

Is Russia relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:19 pm:

So no real bears involved? no real bears are involved in this puzzle
Was the bear visible? yope A signpost leading to a theme park? no

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:21 pm:

Was the bear recognisable as a bear to a neutral bystander? noish

Is Russia relevant? no, but good thinking
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bear present in some tangible form?
Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I got a teddy bear for Christmas. He has a shirt (cardigan? pullover?) with "DON'T PANIC" on his breast. I'm bringing him to work so he can sit on my desk.

Did you experience this? or friends of yours?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:27 pm:

Was the bear present in some tangible form? no, in the sense that none of the humans involved could touch the bear
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shades of Clive Dunne!
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bear a real, flesh-and-bone, alive animal?

What exactly does "svv" mean? I assume it is something like "a slight objection against the term you used", am I right? I am a newbie here so please have patience with some more stupid questions of mine.

If "happened" is not the right word, perhaps "arrived" or "succeeded" would work better?

Is the chiefly involved human also the one affected with whatever the bear may have averted? Is the above human a male? relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Birgitta Ericsson (Brid) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:30 pm:

Did you experience this? no or friends of yours? no - this happened some considerable time ago
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the bear only seen by some people? The 'one human chiefly involved' of the puzzle, for instance?
Was he a secret sign?
Was he a chalk bear like that horse?
Was he planted in grass seeds and quickly mown over by the park gardener when he saw the sabotage to his lawns?
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

booze involved ?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the exact location relevant?
Type of location relevant?
Exact circumstances relevant?
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the time when it happened important? Was it less than 100 years ago? less than 1000 years ago?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:33 pm:

Was the bear only seen by some people? The 'one human chiefly involved' of the puzzle, for instance? the bear was visible to a very great number of people. However, what is important is not that it was visible, but that it existed at all.
Was he a secret sign? no
Was he a chalk bear like that horse? no
Was he planted in grass seeds and quickly mown over by the park gardener when he saw the sabotage to his lawns? no, but a most interesting notion :)

By Alizon (Alizon) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:34 pm:

booze involved ? no. And, since I shamefully omitted to say this before, welcome to the forum - or welcome back, if you've been here before :)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:34 pm:

Is the exact location relevant? the exact location of both the bear and the events of the puzzle are both relevant
Type of location relevant? yes
Exact circumstances relevant? yes

By Alizon (Alizon) on Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 02:35 pm:

is the time when it happened important? yes Was it less than 100 years ago? no less than 1000 years ago? yes