| Author | Message | ||
| Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
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Any puns? Did the phrase have just one meaning? | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Any puns? No Did the phrase have just one meaning? Yes | ||
| Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
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Does the phrase suggest that - he had no shame? - had no control? - didnt know how to behave socially? - was a drunkard? - didn't know his limits? - something else? | ||
| Alizon (Alizon)
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Did it express indignation? was the person making the remark in control of him/herself? | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Arjun Does the phrase suggest that - he had no shame? no - had no control? no - didnt know how to behave socially? no - was a drunkard? no - didn't know his limits? no - something else? no To your earlier question I suppose you could say that the phrase does have two meanings but this isn't that helpful but it still may help. Alizon Did it express indignation? Probably yes, as well as surprise, shock and dismay. was the person making the remark in control of him/herself? Yes | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Another Adjustment Does the phrase suggest something else? Yes | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Hint I think it very likely that Alizon has used the expression herself. I am not sure if Arjun has used it. I am uncertain if it is used in America but I do suspect that it is. time for me to get some zzzz's - see you tomorrow | ||
| Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
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Is it a standard expression of shock? Would it be followed by an '!' in writing? Is it of the form 'Holy X!'? Do the two words in the phrase rhyme? | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Is it a standard expression of shock? Yes! Would it be followed by an '!' in writing? Yes Is it of the form 'Holy X!'? No - there is nothing contentious in the phrase Do the two words in the phrase rhyme? No | ||
| Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
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Just to make sure you have some questions for tomorrow morning Is it of the form 'by _____'? 'bloody _______' Does it mention heaven, God or mercy? Is one of the words a name? Is it an English expression? From Latin? Greek? Does the etymology involve any urination? Is it an alliteration? | ||
| Dref (Dref)
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Is it "Shame?" | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Arjun Is it of the form 'by _____'? 'bloody _______' Does it mention heaven, God or mercy? No to all Is one of the words a name? Yes! Is it an English expression? Yes From Latin? Greek? No Does the etymology involve any urination? No Is it an alliteration? No Welcome back Fred! Is it "Shame?" No | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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RECAP This is a real life scenario that took place at an engagement party. The party was held by the parents of the bride to be to be, in their own home. The prospective husband turned up late and being very drunk proceeded to urinate in the fireplace. The outcome was that the engagement / wedding was called off. We don’t know exactly what was said when the man urinated in the fireplace in front of his hosts but there is something very specific that would've been especially logical and apt. Your object is to discover exactly what the phrase is. The phrase uttered contains 2 words and none of the words are foul or objectionable in any way at all (containing no relgious conotations). It is an exclamation that expresses dismay and contains a name. It is known at least in the UK and quite possibly in America and elsewhere. There is only a slight clue in the title - not directly to the phrase but to the location of the scenario. | ||
| Ed Mason (Logician)
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Working from the recap - don't know what's been asked: Is one word / Are both words: English? French? German? Spanish? Italian? Is the phrase an exlamation? a question? a statement? | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Is one word / Are both words: English? Both words are English French? German? Spanish? Italian? Is the phrase an exlamation? Yes a question? no a statement? noish | ||
| Alizon (Alizon)
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I think it very likely that Alizon has used the expression herself. Have I indeed? In this puzzle, LTPF or in real life? If the latter, I must make it clear that we have no fireplace  | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Have I indeed? Well it's an educated guess. It might depend on which generation you belong too!) In this puzzle, LTPF or in real life? Real Life If the latter, I must make it clear that we have no fireplace I fully accept your defence  | ||
| Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
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Is the man's name important? Is it the same as the name in the phrase? | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Is the man's name important? Yes! Is it the same as the name in the phrase? Yes! | ||
| David Burn (Woubit)
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Grate, Scott? | ||
| Simon Downham (Beroean)
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Grate, Scott? No (but good idea!) | ||
| Dref (Dref)
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Was the man's name Randy? And thanks for the welcome back! |
